2010 NFL Draft: What Will The Packers Do In The 2nd Round?

by Brandon on Apr 23, 2010 7:00 AM CDT in Green Bay Packers Draft

My original preference was that the Green Bay Packers pull off a trade and move up in the 2nd round. They have the 24th pick of the 2nd round (somehow they slipped one spot in the 2nd round compared to the 1st). But with players like Texas LB Sergio Kindle slipping into the 2nd round, and LT Bryan Bulaga slipping to No. 23 overall in the 1st round, maybe they should just sit tight and see who becomes available. The 2nd round starts at 5pm CST. The 3rd round is on tomorrow too, but I'm keeping the speculation to the 2nd round at this point.

The SB Nation story stream is a good place to catch up on all the 1st round picks. Including the rare intra-NFC North trade. I'm not a big fan of RB Jahvid Best, who the Lions drafted at No. 30 overall by sending the Vikings their 2nd round pick (No. 34 overall) plus a swap of 4th round picks which moves the Vikings up 28 spots in that round. It saves the Vikings some money by paying for the player they would have drafted anyway in the 2nd round, and moving up in the 4th round certainly can't hurt. Not a major move for either team.

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Take CB or S in round 2. they’re not likely to get a shot at Kindle or Mays at this point. After missing out on Hughes, I think they need to move up in the third and grab OBrien Schofield. The knee will heal and he’s a late first / early second round talent.

by theisman's leg on Apr 23, 2010 8:13 AM CDT reply actions

Well that's the interesting thing

I don’t know how much we need a complete player at OLB. Jones can handle everything but pass rushing, and we don’t know how he’ll do that after he’s put on extra weight. Players typically make their largest jump in talent between their first and second year in the league, so who knows what Jones will do.

I am more of a fan of taking a CB in the second, S in the third and then Schofield or a raw pass rusher in the fourth. Could be interesting.

by PackApologist on Apr 23, 2010 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions

speaking of 2nd year players ...

… I’m hoping Underwood takes a big step this year. he always had good coverage during preseason last year, but just looked lost when it came to actually making the play. Harris absolutely trashed his knee (way worse than “just” an ACL) and will not start the season, but if Underwood pans out and Lee can stay healthy, I think the much bigger need is at safety. Bigby peaked two years ago, and they have useless depth when Bush and Martin are the backups. And using Woodson at safety is a terrible solution — it neutralizes our best playmaker.

by theisman's leg on Apr 23, 2010 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions

I like Lee, but not Underwood

Underwood reminds me of (gasp) Jarrett Bush.

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Apr 23, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions

Both have potential

I’m really hoping Lee can stay on the field this year. If we can get some value for him the secondary will be in much better shape.

As for Underwood, knocking him is like knocking Jones. Underwood was a late pick with some upside. The biggest worry I have with him is his attitude. He seems to be one of those guys just happy to be in the building and not necessarily focused on being the best he can be. If he’s ditched that attitude this offseason, then he could be good. If not, well then I would imagine he’ll have a hard time making the team.

by PackApologist on Apr 23, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions

Haha man, I don’t know how you can say that! You should go back and watch some tape of Underwood. He really was quite good for in that dime spot last year. Like theisman said he’s shown glimpses of being good in coverage but what I like about him is he can come up and make a hit, which is exactly what you need from Cb’s in our defense.

by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

I agree I like Underwood

I don’t think we should count on Pat Lee at all. Even when he was healthy he didn’t play well.

by Yankees10 on Apr 23, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions

I SAID IT MAN, I SAID IT!

lol. in what i saw of him, i wasn’t impressed. it was mostly preseason that i saw though. maybe you were keeping a closer eye on him then me as the season progressed.

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Apr 23, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions

Haha hopefully he’ll change your mind this season!

by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions

I think I am with you. While I think Jones has a lot of room for improvement, I think we are WAY too hard on a rookie who was a raw 7th rounder. Another year in the system might just do wonders for the kid. I think we should go CB in R2 as well. I’d be up for a Safety as well or even another big body for the Dline if there is someone that makes sense. I worry about Jolly and our depth.

by TrevorR on Apr 23, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions

D line is one of my lowest concerns

It’s that and backup QB. Maybe throw a 6 or 7 at that problem, but nothing too major to sweat. I’m with you on safety. If Mays falls to the middle of the round I think it could be worth it to take a flyer on him.

by PackApologist on Apr 23, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions

If Mays some how falls to our 2nd rd pick, I think they will take him. I know a lot has been made of his coverage ability but can anyone say his coverage ability is less than Atari Bigby’s? Plus, Mays is a much more dynamic athlete than Bigby.

by bpjensen on Apr 23, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions

I know a lot has been made of his coverage ability but can anyone say his coverage ability is less than Atari Bigby’s? Plus, Mays is a much more dynamic athlete than Bigby.

Even that isn’t necessarily the end of the world though because he has exceptional recovery speed, which is crucial in the NFL. Your right about him being much more dynamic then Bigby too. I remember a lot of us thinking initially that Bigby would be tremendous as a run stopper in our defense when we initially made the switch to the 3-4, and that wasn’t the case. Mays could at least do that, and could potentially be used as a LB in nickel/dime situations because of his strength and size.

by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions

OBrien Schofield

was never a 1st/2nd rd talent. At best he was a third. With the injury he should be available in the 4th or 5th.

by Yankees10 on Apr 23, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions

I lean toward an OLB

because my feeling is that the lack of pass rush had more to do with the success of Steeler and Cardinal multiple receiver sets than the secondary.

Not that the secondary doesn’t have injury recovery questions and depth issues.

So if there’s great DB talent available, fine (Bears will draft a Safety in round 2). But the lean should be pass-rushing OLB I think.

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by NorthSidePaulie on Apr 23, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions

bears don’t have a round 2 pick

by theisman's leg on Apr 23, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions

There was no pressure on the QB because Capers dropped 8 the whole game

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by Take Back Our Bucks on Apr 23, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions

Why the Pack "slipped" in round 2

I guess it has to do with our record with the Eagles, we tied and so we go back and forth one pick higher and one lower all through the draft.

by PackApologist on Apr 23, 2010 8:33 AM CDT reply actions

The pack have a couple good options

At OLB, Clemson product Ricky Sapp should be there for the taking, he was discussed as a 1st round talent earlier in the process.

in the secondary, Dominique Franks, S Nate Allen, and perhaps even Taylor Mays should be there also

And theres always the thought of Toby Gehrhart as well.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Apr 23, 2010 8:48 AM CDT reply actions

Nate Allen...

Will give Bigby a run for his money right away—Kendrick Lewis or Jeromy Miles would be just as nice. If Allen isn’t there at 56; I’d rather see GB trade out of the 2nd and pick up extra 3rd and 4th; there will be a bounty of prospects at OLB, S, CB.

They want power. We want respect...

by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions

No

Take a player. There will be a player there. By the time we draft in the third there will be a drop off in talent. Take somebody, there will be somebody worth taking there.

We have one depth hole plugged. Now we two or three more and the Pack will be in great shape.

by PackApologist on Apr 23, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions

Might be pushing our luck, but...

I’ve got high hopes we draft specific players that would fit GB system and having two 3rd and two 4th round picks would defiantly help.

They want power. We want respect...

by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions

what will they do about the clusterf*** at ILB?

Chillar, Barnett, Hawk, Bishop can all start. any chance they’ll deal Hawk or Bishop to get another 2nd or 3rd round pick? I don’t know why they won’t let Bishop on the field, but if they’re not going to use him they shouldn’t pull a Kampman and get nothing in return. The depth is great, but I’d be willing to see one go in order to help land an impact player at another position.

by theisman's leg on Apr 23, 2010 9:32 AM CDT reply actions

Doubt it

Barnett and Chillar aren’t going anywhere. Bishop wouldn’t get a 2 or 3, too many inconsistencies. Hawk is the best option and the Pack seems to be a believer in him for the moment. Solid starter who didn’t have a great year, but one of his better ones. Somehow I doubt we’d get a 2 or three for him either.

by PackApologist on Apr 23, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions

Kampman was just bad luck

I bet they would of done a tag and trade on him if he hadn’t shredded his knee. That’s life in the NFL.

by PackApologist on Apr 23, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions

Hawk and Bishop

Would no way get a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Hawk at best could bring in a 5th, Bishop maybe a 7th.

by Yankees10 on Apr 23, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions

My thoughts

Chris Cook and Koa Misi or Ricky Sapp

by Yankees10 on Apr 23, 2010 11:01 AM CDT reply actions

I don’t know why they won’t let Bishop on the field

by vibes2000 on Apr 23, 2010 11:02 AM CDT reply actions

I don’t know why they won’t let Bishop on the field...

I agree. But like last years draft, I’d like to see T.T. trade up and get a good pick early in the second round. He traded up last year in the first round, and that turned out great… Why not do it in the second round? I believe we have two picks in the fifth, so work with one of those and the one we have this round.

by vibes2000 on Apr 23, 2010 11:06 AM CDT reply actions

I kind of hope we get Mays, and I wouldn’t mind seeing us trade up to do so. The guy just has SO much potential. He could come in and be just as good as Bigby (probably better), and could potentially turn into an elite guy. We have a tremendous safteys coach in Perry, and we all know how good Capers is. I’d have to think that he could find some good, creative ways to use Mays in our system.

I’d be interested in Kindle if we traded up as well. If we stay put, which is likely, then a Cb would be a good pick too. There are still a number of good ones out there.

by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 11:20 AM CDT reply actions

I've been a Mays doubter

But now that he will be available in the 2nd round I wouldnt mind getting him. I wouldnt trade up to get him but if he is there when we pick (which I doubt) I would consider taking him. I wouldnt pick Kindle now for this reason http://www.sbnation.com/2010/4/23/1439213/sergio-kindle-injury-2010-nfl-draft

by Yankees10 on Apr 23, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions

Oh wow

I hadn’t heard or seen that. Microfracture surgery sucks. It has a way of taking the athleticism out of guys. Although I don’t really know of any NFL guys who have had the surgery. I know Amar’e Stoudemaire had it, and he certainly didn’t come back from it quite at the same level. Delvon Roe had it too for any of you college basketball lovers like myself. He didn’t have the same explosiveness after it either.

Maybe we target a Ricky Sapp or Eric Norwood in the later rounds.

Yeah, whether your a Mays fan or not he just has far too much potential to pass up on in the 2nd round. Doubt he’ll slide to us though.

by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions

I think I am with you on Mays…now that we are talking a second rounder, I am game for grabbing him.

by TrevorR on Apr 23, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions

He could fall to us.

people like Morgan Burnett over Mays; Chad Jones is arguably a better investment than Mays. Oak needs an OT more than they need Mays. Other teams that need a safety that pick before GB: Browns, Eagles, Bucs, Bengals, Dolphins, Texans, Giants.

They want power. We want respect...

by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions

Has anyone else heard

the rumor that Sergio Kindle needs microfracture surgery and may miss all of 2010? Someone on another forum mentioned this (no link given) and if nothing else it would explain his slide.

by Archibaldcrane on Apr 23, 2010 11:24 AM CDT reply actions

Yeah

heres a link http://www.sbnation.com/2010/4/23/1439213/sergio-kindle-injury-2010-nfl-draft

by Yankees10 on Apr 23, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions

Ouch

I’m off the Kindle bandwaggon. I’m thinking OLB yet in the 2nd Round with hopefull Schofield in the 4th or 5th Round to develop.

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Apr 23, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions

Was anyone surprised that the Vikings

Didn’t take Clausen at 30? He’s probably not a first round talent if not for his position, but Favre or no Favre, you’d think they’d want to jump at the chance to potentially secure the most important position for the next 10+ years.

by Dr. Jay on Apr 23, 2010 1:02 PM CDT reply actions

They still might. He’ll be there waiting for them in round 2 with the 2nd pick. If he WAS their guy, trading down with the Lions made a ton of sense since the Lions, Colts, Saints, and Rams were all obviously not going to grab another QB.

by TrevorR on Apr 23, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions

there was one vikings fan in the bar I watched the draft at last night, and he was pleading that the vikings take clausen. what a stupid purple idiot. I hope he gets his wish.

by theisman's leg on Apr 23, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions

I mentioned Jerome Murphy in the other thread

I’m hoping he drops to us. Seems like a prototype of what the Packers like from the position. Tough, physical, aware, pretty sure tackler. I’d mention Cook too, but I don’t think he’ll make it to us and I still think I like Murphy better….but I never really watched Cook so this isn’t exactly an expert opinion or anything.

If we go another direction in the 2nd, then I think Myron Lewis from Vandy would be solid if he slid to us in the 3rd. I see a lot of people say he may be a safety, but from what I saw of him I think he could stick at corner. Even so, it’s not like we can’t use a safety so he’s presents a nice fallback plan.

by STLPackFan on Apr 23, 2010 1:54 PM CDT reply actions

Yeah

I also like Murphy and Lewis in the second or third.

by Yankees10 on Apr 23, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions

Ricky Sapp is another name

That would fit the pass rusher niche. The areas he needs the most work in are the areas where Brad Jones looks strongest.

by STLPackFan on Apr 23, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions

any thoughts on the LB out of Utah?

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by shaftr on Apr 23, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions

He sounds like a good one too

I pretty much have to go off what I read with him too, but sounds like a great fit for the need as well.

Lots of good names out there still. To me this seems like a uniquely deep draft. That’s a big reason I don’t think we should be doing any trading up. I think there will be quite a few people that can provide some real help into round 3, and probably even 4.

by STLPackFan on Apr 23, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Myron Lewis in the 3rd would be nice. Scouts have also have said the CB Chris Cook—who apparently GB seems to like—can play safety. Meaning he could be on the field constantly :D

They want power. We want respect...

by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions

You guys r all wrong

The packers should get charles brown from USC and just silitify the tackles for another 10 years. imagine Brown, Lang, Spitz, Sitton, Bulaga…. Good O-line for the next 5-10 years

by the great GB on Apr 23, 2010 2:05 PM CDT reply actions

I was against Brown as the 23rd pick but if he slips to our 2nd round spot

I wouldn’t be against pulling the trigger. Put him at LT and Buluga at RT.

by Charlie Kelly on Apr 23, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions

Nah

There is something for that thought, but we do need some extra defensive playmakers more than that. Getting some secondary help or a pass rusher would help much more than another tackle.

by PackApologist on Apr 23, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions

Nah...

I think we’re good at the tackle positions now. Tausch is more reliable than Clifton, in my opinion, and we’ve got Lang backing him up just in case. Bulaga will be a good LT. I was very impressed with his footwork. He seems natural (as opposed to the Barbre shuffle)

And we’re good at guard too, with Spitz and Colledge battling it out and Sitton holding down the other side. And, who knows, maybe Barbre can do something at RG, which is generally regarded as requiring the least amount of agility (which he does NOT have) on the O-line.

I think the biggest thing now is to just let these guys play one position.

by Curly Lambeau on Apr 23, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions

No

We already drafted a OT in the first. No need to waste our second rounders on another. CB and OLB are bigger needs now.

by Yankees10 on Apr 23, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions

agreed

clifton and tauscher are both old and worn out. if one of the second level OT’s is available and the choice is between him and “decent” db or OLB, take the OT. Barbre/Giacomini/Colledge are garbage and shouldn’t be on any depth chart.

by gangstaff on Apr 23, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions

IDK

tausch can play but for only a good year and thats the same for clifton. We need to pick up brown so our o-line will be great for the future. If Rodgers can have a great line for the next 5-10 years than all i can say is SUPERBOWL!!!

by the great GB on Apr 23, 2010 2:16 PM CDT reply actions

Here’s what I think the new depth chart for the o-line should be:

Clifton (Bulaga)
Spitz (Colledge)
Wells (Dietrich-Smith)
Sitton (Barbre)
Tauscher (Lang)

That’s a solid line.

The good training camp battles will be Tausch vs. Lang and Colledge vs. Spitz. …also Giacomini vs. himself. Depending on how things work out, we can think about finding a new RT next year if we need to, but I think we’ll be fine for years to come. Bulaga is obviously the LT of the future. Lang might eventually move to LG. Spitz might eventually move to C. And Giacomini will either pan out or he won’t.

by Curly Lambeau on Apr 23, 2010 2:25 PM CDT reply actions

Apparently Bulaga played LG his freshman year in Iowa City

I wouldn’t want to burden the guy too much but I’d figure he could be better than Spitz or Colledge. One thing the scouts said about him was that he’s smart and can probably learn different positions relatively quickly.

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by jobe on Apr 23, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions

No.

Maybe next year if things don’t work out at LT.

Moving him around right now would be snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Let the kid learn one position.

by Curly Lambeau on Apr 23, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

packers are in a unique situation

They are very young, but have old tackles. It’s an issue that needs to be addressed and Bulaga definitely helps. On the other hand, this team is really close to being ready for the Super Bowl. This means upgrading people like Brad Jones & Atari Bigby (if there are immediate upgrades in the draft). Also, GB can’t afford to go into the season without being confident in the health of Blackmon, Harris & Lee.

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by shaftr on Apr 23, 2010 2:27 PM CDT reply actions