Open Thread: 2010 NFL Draft, Day 2, 2nd and 3rd Rounds
by Brandon on Apr 23, 2010 4:30 PM CDT
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PrintBarring a surprising trade up into the 2nd round, the Green Bay Packers once again have to wait a while until it's their turn in the NFL draft. And once again, we can discuss the other picks until then.
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I think it's the Browns
possibly the Bills because nothing they do makes sense
"But we all know that games aren't played on paper...they are played by little men inside our TV sets." --Kenny Mayne
by dishingoutdimes on Apr 23, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I got the seahawks.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, Daily Norseman blogger here
Great pick with Bulaga. Really helps shore up your line. Thought Detroit had a very good night as well.
Damn it all to hell. ;)
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
Unfortunately
I think the Lions had a good first night too. It’s almost like they have someone competent running their organization now…
"But we all know that games aren't played on paper...they are played by little men inside our TV sets." --Kenny Mayne
by dishingoutdimes on Apr 23, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
whats your take on the vikings 34th pick?
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly don't know
I think if Clausen was their guy, they would’ve pulled the trigger at 30 and not given the Lions a gift wrapped Jahvid Best. I think they’re wanting to see if there’s any trade offers out there that they can’t refuse.
Or the guy they want is on the board, and they’ll pick him.
That said, if Clausen is the best player available and the Rams don’t trade the pick, I think the Vikes will take him. They’re pretty consistent on taking the BPA and not reaching.
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
They don't need secondary help?
I know they just signed Lito Sheppard.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes and no
If Winfield and Griffin come back healthy, they’ll be okay. Winfield should be fine; Griffin might not be ready in time for the season opener. Benny Sapp and Lito Sheppard will be okay as temporary fill-ins.
If their injuries are more serious, they will need DB help.
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
O-line help then?
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
So much for St. Louis trading the pick
"But we all know that games aren't played on paper...they are played by little men inside our TV sets." --Kenny Mayne
by dishingoutdimes on Apr 23, 2010 5:11 PM CDT reply actions
Eh
What they were showing on NFL Network it looked like he didn’t have the best footwork for his size to be able to cover consistently at corner. They suggested he might switch to FS eventually.
There were other cornerbacks I was far more impressed with
"But we all know that games aren't played on paper...they are played by little men inside our TV sets." --Kenny Mayne
by dishingoutdimes on Apr 23, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, they said he had stiff hips. Seems like a bit of a reach.
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
They do need some secondary help though. Between adding Sheppard and now Cook, they should have some good depth.
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha Kiper didn’t like the pick at all. I don’t think it’s a bad one. He was a projected 1st round DT by many.
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
You’d have to think so. I still think Clausen is gonna be better then Bradford and Tebow.
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
It'd be great if they go McCoy over Clausen :p
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I forgot they have Cassel. I think they’ll pass on Qb. If they end up doing so, do the Browns take Clausen? Holmgren has made some comments about not liking him in the past but can he really pass him up at 36!?
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
surprise pick for KC.
Dexter McCluster.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
That’s what I was thinking too. Gotta think that’s who their going with right?
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
FUNK!!!
Nate Allen to Philly.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha damnit! Last 2 guys were guys I was hoping the Pack would have a shot at!
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
hopefully for GB.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh I thought you were saying the Browns took him, and I was gonna ask you if your TV is a couple mintues ahead of mine or something haha.
Jones is the guy from LSU right? I liked him a lot when I watched him. Dynamic guy as a punt returner and kick returner too.
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
rofl
if anything theres a delay. Yeah he’s from LSU natural athlete, big hitter, stops the run, and plays baseball.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha T.J. who????
Yeah, I remember watching him in the NCAA tournamet for baseball too. He’d be a good pick.
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
What do you think about Everson Griffin? If he drops to us in the 2nd I think it’d be hard to pass him up.
Most defiantly.
the only problem with him is he doesn’t go all out on every down. BTW Bucs back up
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
doubt it, Oakland will land Brown.
but buffalo might beat them to it.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
seems like Oak is interested in the TE Gronkowski
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
how far will Kindle fall??
Apparently his bad news traveled. The new format might have hurt him the most!
Bills get T. Troup
well Buffalo you outdid the Browns. Brown needs a home and quick.
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lots of guys I wanted GB to get went off right away
I’m thinking there will be some good Tackles available.
nevermind.
Oak gets DT L. Houston.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Sergio Kindle is definitely talented
I could care less about the other things said about him, but his knee is the big question in my mind.
my bs prediction :/
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
nah
adrian wilson and kerry rhodes; no room for Mays.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe.
KC and Philly might take him, again might.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
looks like it will be safety vs tackle
I don’t see any cornerbacks or OLBs that GB likes that much at 56. Any thoughts?
no doubt,
thought he would be taken before Mays. Burnett can cover but he sometimes doesn’t wrap up on tackles; that can be fixed though.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
it's still young
I like Arenas. another blow for me. my picks for GB are being taken.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Well...
CB Jerome Murphy and S Chad Jones are still in play :D
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
i hope not
i think he’ll be good, but we have too many OG’s. We don’t need another. at this point: OT Charles Brown or OT Bruce Campbell. Either of them seem like excellent prospects and will solidify our OL for years to come.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Mike has said we need help in the secondary
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
my 5-week old son just said blaaahhhh when I asked him who the Packers would take. Take that for what it is worth.
by bpjensen on Apr 23, 2010 6:33 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
good. i'm glad MN is messing another draft up. : )
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
dont mention that yet. Terrance Cody is still out there
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
I think Gerhart is gonna be a good Rb but he does all the same things AP and obviously not better. Would have thought they would go with more of a threat as a pass catcher.
Cincy has 2 2nd round intriguing picks in back to back years
from Mike Johnson last year to Carlos Dunlap this year. Kudos for them as they both have tremendous upside
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
what're we thinkin on this pick? Brandon Ghee?
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
6'0" CB with great speed.
and can cover man-to-man
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Mike Neal?
ughhh
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
don't understand this pick AT ALL
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
Who?
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
dude needs to bulk up to play in the 3-4. He’s quick and athletic, but wtf seriously?
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
actually 295 is the perfect and most ideal weight size
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
hopefully its enough to knock down NFL guards.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
hey guys, i love the pick! most of you know how i feel about Jolly, so enough said. i think we should have got Charles Brown though. Good pick overall
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
i just feel like we needed a rusher, a CB, or more OL help more.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
i like both scouting reports
think about it guys, he will be a part of a rotation. he’s best for rushing the passer, not stopping the run. problem fixed with our rotation: Jenkins, Pickett, Raji. On passing downs, Jenkins, Raji, and Neal. ta-dah! LOL.
I like the pick.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Jolly is nothing but average. I know he gets knock downs every once in a while but I’d much rather have a quick guy like Neal who could provide a better pass rush.
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions
wow, we actually agreed on something again. LOL
i seriously think you and i or like Kiper and McShay. LOL! at times, ya know….
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Haha yeah we can be! We don’t get as heated though, and I don’t have slicked back hair…do you?
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Jolly can’t shed his blocks or ever get a push.
Harrell is far too oversized now. After college he was a great fit, at this point though he needs to lose weight and get closer to 300 as opposed to 325.
Wynn is far too undersized and is strictly a backup with a very limited role. Very little upside.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Yeah, Jolly has provided no push pass rushing for us. This is definitely a good pick. Could help Jones out quite a bit.
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
that's a good point
maybe Jones struggled to get to the QB because the DE in front of him wasn’t doing the job.
+2
Clay Matthews was a beast largely because Cullen Jenkins is. it all starts up front.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Yeah, we also got ran on over Jolly and Jones, and a lot of that was cause of Jolly. He doesn’t ever generate much push. Just kind of a big body, that can take up space. This move could really, really help Jones. Hopefully Neal works out.
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
did i watch a different team?
I remember jolly having an excellent season, making lots of plays for a 3-4 DE.
Drafting a DL when that is probably the best part of our team is disgusting. This kid better be a player and do something in our rotation this year. OT’s still on the board, MUCH bigger needs at corner/safety/olb…yuk.
He made a few nice INTs and had some bat downs like I said but looking at his play on the OL it wasn’t anything special. He doesn’t ever generate push, which can be ok in the 3-4 but obviously it’s ideal to have a guy who can clog things up and rush the passer.
I think it may have been to early yet to take a Cb. It seems like the run on Cb’s is starting now, so we’ll see if we get one here later in the 3rd.
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
thank god the Vikings didn't get Cody
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
i didn't hear ESPN say anything about him. what did they say?
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
a'ight now it makes sense.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Holy crap, can they tell the Gronkowski family to get off the stage and go home?
by bpjensen on Apr 23, 2010 7:25 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I solicited the SB Nation Purdue site Hammer and Rails for information...
Maybe they have some film or info…
dudes a young Al Harris :'('''
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
aww, why do you need a young Al harris when we have the original model?
by bpjensen on Apr 23, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hah! He’s too old silly :p
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Would anyone have any interest in Bruce Campbell in the 3rd to back-up RT? Could then play Lang at LG.
Yeah, gotta have some interest in him in the 3rd round don’t ya? Tons of potential. Can’t believe Griffin and Sapp are still on the board. I hope we grab one of them.
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I like Spievey more. Underrated in coverage, and a good, good tackler.
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah Franks not so consistent, but how is Cox still on the board? Akwasi Owusu-Ansah is still in play :D
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Bucs take Myron Lewis!
god damn it again! Another tall CB that could’ve helped GB.
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not liking this neal pick…can anyone persuade me and show me the positives?? please! lol
I think we shouldve gone CB or OLB but thats just me
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Potentiall could help the pass rush. He is real quick off the line, and has ideal size for a 3-4 DE. I think we needed to upgrade our pass rush, and if Neal pans out he could do thatt.
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess he'd be a upgrade over Jolly, eventually.
dudes quick and athletic; can demolish interior o-linemen.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 23, 2010 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Here we go!
I wonder who Teddy is eyeing!
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
campbell.. bowman
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
Definitely
Burnett was projected as a late 1st to mid 2nd by some scouts so good value as well.
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha scroll up a bit and look. We talked about him a little bit.
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
On
Packers.com they say neal commands double teams on almost every snap, he also played nose. http://www.packers.com/draft/2010/
great pick. what'd we give up for it? anyone see the trade details yet?
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
They got 86, and 120 something I wanna say.
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah....
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
meh, not so sure how i feel about that trade then.
i’d really like another late 3rd or a 4th round pick… there are some fantastic players still falling.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
Burnett was is a talented guy though. He had 7 INTs as a sophomore and 4 last season as a junior. He is good in coverage and has good awareness. All things Bigby lacks. He could really help us out.
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
i absolutely agree... i just wish we had a fourth round pick/our original 3rd rounder left
at this point, I can see Bruce Campbell or Griffen still being around later this round/beginning of the fourth, and i’d love either of them.
that being said. i’m still really happy ot have Burnett and i’m sure overall it’s a good trade
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
Morgan Burnett! Good shit TT.
6’1" 210lbs, 4.57 40 time. Should be a nice project.
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major wright.... bet they're pissed we got burnett
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
He has an excellent see-to-do reaction and can get a good jump on the ball. He has good timing and anticipation, and generally comes down with the ball in a joust. Despite this, he’s not just a centerfielder. He’s equally dangerous inside the box. He’s an accomplished blitzer who can get to the QB. He’ll also shoot the gaps and make plays behind the line of scrimmage. Burnett is a hard hitter and isn’t afraid to get his clothes dirty to stop the running game.
via cdsdradt.com.
Scouts on NFL.com and Cbssports.com said virtually the same things.
I know right? The guy had 14 INTs in 3 seasons at GT, and by the sounds of it he is a capable tackler.
I’ve read a couple places that his weaknesses seem to be inconsistency and that he tries to go for big hits a bit too much and ends up missing a tackle. As long as it says nothing about weakness in coverage I’m happy.
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Burnett is well-built instinctive safety who does a good job locating the ball in the secondary and then closing on it from a center field position. He exhibits good balance and footwork in his drop and consistently keeps his feet under him when asked to transition and get out of his breaks. Burnett gets up to speed quickly and showcases impressive range when asked to make plays sideline to sideline. He exhibits good click-and-close ability on passes in front of him and can consistently get his hands on the ball. He’s an impressive ball hawk in the secondary. Against the run, Burnett does a nice job reading the action in front of him and then taking good angles toward the ball. He isn’t a physical tackler and has a tendency to lower his head into contact, but he wraps up well and can fill running lanes on the inside.
From NationalFottballPost.com
Who knows. Schofield could be there for us and maybe Eric Norwood will be there in the 5th for us. It’d be great to get one of those guys and then a Joe McKnight later in the draft.
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
FS vs SS
I saw Burnett listed as a FS, which is Collins spot. I don’t really see a difference anymore as its a passing league and i’d rather have a coverage guy than a hitter but what does everyone else think?
Burnett is definitely a coverage guy. Another thing is the safteys in Caper’s 3-4 system are pretty much interchangeable.
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Really? I saw SS somewhere too. I don’t think it matters a ton in this system and plus he’ll play where we tell him to play! I don’t think they would have taken him if they didn’t think he would be able to challenge Bigby.
says FS here but whatever
if it doesn’t matter in our system i’m happy with the pick
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1242890
According to that link Burnett is actually taller and almost as heavy as Bigby.
You guy's
got me sucked in…. just like facebook, I have spent 3-4 hrs watching draft online and blogging last 2 days—my GF thinks I have lost my mind LOL
Maybe we could package our 2 5th rounders to move up if there’s a Cb or OLB we really like? Haha and maybe we should hope for this considering the way TT has picked in the 5th round.
Son of a bitch haha! I knew it sounded to good to be true.
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
If O'Brien Schofield is there in the 5th, we take him
5th Round CB’s and later rarely pan out along with just about any other position that late. However, Schofield would be a steal as he has the red flag with the ACL tear. Worth the risk in my opinion with his upside.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
That was supposed to say that the 5th is a round where yo ucan start to take risks on guys with red flags. Maybe we move our normal 5th for Leon Washington?
Maybe we move our normal 5th for Leon Washington?
Yes please :).
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Colt McCoy?>
Where does he finally go? Cleveland in the 3rd? San Fran at pick 27 in the 3rd? Does he slide to the 4th?
Let me know if they do take him! I’m gonna watch the last 4-5 minutes of the Capitals game.
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Man
a healthy Leon, that would do so much at once… Special teams…. Scat Back … would do multiple things for us
TT Haters
Can no longer say that he doesn’t move up in drafts. He has now done it what, 3 times in the top 3 rounds of the last two drafts now. I think those are pretty good numbers. He’s showing he can change his style to fit the phase the team is in.
Yeah, and he finally took an OT early, which has been a major criticism.
by packallday555 on Apr 23, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
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