Open Thread: 2010 NFL Draft, Day 3, 4th Round and Beyond
by Brandon on Apr 24, 2010 10:32 AM CDT
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PrintThis open thread is up about two hours later than I had planned. It's all my fault, but I blame my apathy on GM Ted Thompson for trading away his 4th round pick to move up in the 3rd and select Georgia Tech S Morgan Burnett (just kidding). Actually, as I mentioned earlier, I liked the move up for the player they wanted instead of two lesser players who might have struggled to make a deep roster.
I'm surprised they haven't drafted an outside linebacker, but I'm sure they've got their eyes on a couple guys in the later rounds. Plus they already have a lot of linebackers on the roster who have started in the past, though only LB Clay Matthews is a great pass rusher. I expect they'll draft a running back today unless they were serious about signing RB Brian Westbrook. They could use another wide receiver/returner candidate (I wonder if Brian Westbrook would make a good punt returner?). And they could use a 7th round pick on a QB who might be a good candidate for the practice squad come September. I'd love it if they drafted a punter.
Anything I missed? Who's falling that they should grab with pick No. 154? Four picks today (2 in 5th round, then 6th and 7th).
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Cornerback
And it wouldn’t hurt to add a CB either. I like it that Jefferson is taller (6’0") than many CBs.
RBs available
There are still some good ones left. Dwyer, Dixon, Blount, etc. I wouldn’t mind a CB either. Perrish Cox from OK St is an option. Great returnman as well. He was arrested and suspended before their bowl game though.
Oh, I didn’t know Dywer was still left. Anyone know why he has dropped? I had read he was a pretty sure thing in round 2. Cox could be a good pick up too.
by packallday555 on Apr 24, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
His testing results
He tested positive for something at the combine, but it might have just been a prescription. If the Packers have checked that out and are fine with him, he’s a big back who would probably fit in with the offense nicely.
Blount is a beast (maybe I'm biased as an Oregonian)
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 24, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I wouldn’t mind getting him either. How is his speed though? Any idea what his 40 time was?
by packallday555 on Apr 24, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it’d be a damn good add. I’m a PAC-10 fan boy
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Damn a lot of guys gone in the 4th round I was hoping we’d have a look at. Griffin, McKnight, Gilyard, Mike Williams, Norwood, and Thaddeus Gibson.
'twas sad my friend.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
yes
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I think he’d be more then worth the pick in the 5th round. He was a projected early 1st to mid 2nd guy. What you think?
by packallday555 on Apr 24, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Haha excuse my grammar too please. It’s early.
by packallday555 on Apr 24, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
only LB Clay Matthews is a great pass rusher
Nick Barnett is the new Rodney Dangerfield
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Not a sack machine
Nick Barnett’s a great player but he’s only had 15.5 sacks in over a 100 career starts. He’s not going to command a double team.
you think we go OLB with our first 5th?
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
He's been in the middle so much that he rarely gets called on to rush
If he’s coming, it’s probably seen as more of a gadget. He can bring some serious pressure when does go, though. And he’s tenacious in pursuit – good closing speed and the ability to shed blockers.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
He did look good when blitzing last year.
by packallday555 on Apr 24, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Sapp was situational and it is debateable how he will do at the next level
there are some knee issues too
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 24, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Mack Brown hyping up Vince Young again :/
Leon Washington to Seattle. Two RBs today, Lendale White was traded earlier today
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Washinton got traded to Seattle? What was given up for him?
by packallday555 on Apr 24, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
a 5th.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Man, I wish we would have done that. Oh well.
by packallday555 on Apr 24, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
isn’t he coming off knee injury?
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
not to mention
mlb kirk morrison (oakland) was traded for a 4th round pick.
maybe we could have traded hawk for a 4th rounder.
Anybody want Myron Rolle? I can’t imagine he is worse than having a jarrett Bush or Josh Hill on the roster.
I like him but I dount we go with him after grabbing Burnett. I suppose it would be nice to have him in case Collins and Bigby go down though.
by packallday555 on Apr 24, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
they could give him a shot at special teams.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Wouldn’t mind more some more depth at Cb.
by packallday555 on Apr 24, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Donovan Warren is still out there; he’s under 6’0" but would be a nice nickel
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
dont know.
but something has to be wrong for him to slip this far.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
5th-7th rounders are basically special teams contributors the first couple years until they develope their potential or are replaced. sure, there are the exceptions but that’ not the norm.
Yep, let’s hope we can get some guys who can contribute. The way our special teams played last season we could certainly use a couple more guys.
by packallday555 on Apr 24, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
So now there's rumors swirling around about M. Lynch possibly being traded to GB.
i don’t know much about him beyond his off field issues. Would he be a better alternative than Westbrook or anyone left on the draft board?
TBD
theres a link on ESPN's site but requires an insider subscription. :/
TBD
by pumpkinking on Apr 24, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Various sources
I’ve read it in several places that Lynch is available. But I haven’t read anywhere saying the Packers were interested in him though.
Yeah, I don't know that TT would go after him based on his behavior.
Just wondering what the general concensus is about him and grant in the backfield.
TBD
by pumpkinking on Apr 24, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
don't get my hopes up.
any links?
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
5th round
I noticed it back when the Packers were awarded the compensatory 5th round pick last month, but GM Ted Thompson hasn’t done well drafting in the 5th round. Jamon Meredith was taken last year for example. So I’m not really optimistic about this round.
brandon
go back to the last thread————-i posted all the 5th,6th and 7th round picks since 2005, not a impressive list————-imo.
Dodge or Bowwden in the 7th :D
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
2 picks left before it's our turn and Dwyer still on the board
I’d be happy to take him
The Dude abides
we going to take a WR silly :p
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
lynch could hang out with jolly anyway
by hermitcrab on Apr 24, 2010 11:55 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
anbody else kinda bummed
To see gerhart go to the vikes? Now I have to hate him.
by River Fenix on Apr 24, 2010 11:55 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
this has to bea small school selection. ted hasn’t drafted anyone from some small obscure scholl yet like azuza pacific.
you called it
RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010
an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry
by blackoutsox on Apr 24, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
GREAT PICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just had to be the first to say it. LOL
Hmmm...
…that’s…a strange pick. Is this kid a great blocker or something?
by Archibaldcrane on Apr 24, 2010 12:03 PM CDT reply actions
A tight end?
Maybe Spencer Havner’s legal or injury problems are serious. Or maybe the Donald Lee era is coming to a close (he’s paid like a starter for not starting).
Hmmm...
Quarless fires off the ball and gets on top of linebackers quickly. He’s an impressive athlete for his size and possesses the straight-line speed to consistently get down the seam. He’s an explosive leaper with long arms who knows how to high-point the ball and secure the catch. He displays good balance as a route runner but will drift into routes and isn’t overly sudden out of his breaks. He has the athleticism to separate vs. man coverage. Quarless is still developing as a blocker, lacking ideal power and physicality at the point of attack. He has a tendency to get overextended into contact and can fall off defenders easily. He has some character concerns and has never played up to the amount of overall talent that he possesses. He is one of the more physically gifted tight ends in the country but has yet to put it all together. His lack of maturity is the only thing holding him back from developing into a good tight end at the next level.
by Archibaldcrane on Apr 24, 2010 12:04 PM CDT reply actions
well
looks like were going to hope and pray that the pass rush improves with last years players or we are going to have to just outscore the good teams
Quarless
From NFL.com. He’s been inconsistent on the field and had drinking problems off the field. And he’s not a good blocker. If Thompson wanted to break out of his slump in drafting in the 5th round, he’s not off to a good start.
Honestly
It’s not so bad. Donald Lee will be gone shortly, and who knows about Havner. It’s not a “need” but the kid has a big upside and having a 2nd reliable tight end in a couple years would be nice.
I guess.
by Archibaldcrane on Apr 24, 2010 12:07 PM CDT reply actions
GB takes TE Andrew Quarless
can block, dudes tough he can absorb hits and hold onto the ball.
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Mike Mayock, NFL Network
154 — Packers — TE Andrew Quarless
We are at the point in the draft now where teams will begin to take chances on talent. Quarless is a gifted TE with size, speed and very good hands. He spent most of his career in Joe Paterno’s dog house before breaking out his senior year with 41 receptions. Put the tape on against Michigan if you doubt his value as a verticle receiver. If he blocks better, and works harder, he’s a starter in the NFL.
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!
jolly has a cruising buddy
AFC West just got interesting.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Poor Jason
He’s goes from a team with lousy pass protection in 2009 to a team that was even worse in 2009. At least the Raiders drafted two (project) offensive lineman. If he can survive 2010, he might be OK in 2011. At least he didn’t go to the Bills.
at least you don’t have to wait long for our second 5th pick
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
you mean WR?
someone to back up Brett Swain.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
is quarless...
the jerkoff with “gods gift” tattooed on his triceps?
ow
just hurt my eyes rolling them so hard
TBD
by pumpkinking on Apr 24, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
unreal
I can’t imagine cheering for a guy with that tattoo.
…although, the names Nathaniel and Theodore both mean “gift of God”, so…
Whatever. Freakin’ kids nowadays. Like, “really, that’s what you want to do to your arms? …okay, great, go ahead, do that, good. Nice work (…retard).”
by Curly Lambeau on Apr 24, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha yes. ESPN really has talked about any of our draft picks.
by packallday555 on Apr 24, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
a potential weapon for AR.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
probably told him its still March.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
:( I know, or Griffin, Norwood, Sapp, and Gibson. This draft was pretty deep at OLB.
by packallday555 on Apr 24, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I could see that. Maybe they’ll go Rolle in hopes of replacing the ever so mediocore Williams or Johnson.
by packallday555 on Apr 24, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Ryan Perrilloux
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Is that they guy who got booted from LSU?
by packallday555 on Apr 24, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah...
he blossomed in Jacksonville State’s Offense :/
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha hopefully they take another D1-AA Qb. Then Childress can proclaim he is gonna be the next Donovan McNabb. Work out for us..oops I mean them last year time lol.
by packallday555 on Apr 24, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha holy shit I butchered that last sentence. Meant worked out for us..oops I mean them last time.
by packallday555 on Apr 24, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
rofl
I remember some dude on Mocking the Draft asked if Juice Williams was still on the board—he asked this after the 1st round was over. Hands down the funniest comment during this draft.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
That would be assume haha. We could actually have a good OL, it’d be weird…
by packallday555 on Apr 24, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha well he had to have been better then Colledge but I think Spitz could come back and be a good LG for us.
by packallday555 on Apr 24, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
What did Matt Millen say?
Apologizing for insulting Pollacks?
by Archibaldcrane on Apr 24, 2010 12:33 PM CDT reply actions
Really? The LB out of Minny? Speaking of him, anybody else enjoy seeing Big John Clay run all over him and the rest of the Gophers lol.
by packallday555 on Apr 24, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
There's
our TT late-round offensive lineman.
by Archibaldcrane on Apr 24, 2010 12:37 PM CDT reply actions
well we take a G, does it kill any faneca hope?
Favre 4 Ever
I Believe In Chris Drury
2010 Blueshirt Banter NCAA Champion
OG
well, that makes 8 gaurds on our roster now.
Though I just read his profile and it said that he is better suited to play OG.
by packallday555 on Apr 24, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's his highlight video
http://sports.yahoo.com/video/player/nfldraft/Linemen/19221927#nfldraft/Linemen/19221927
It’s ridiculous.
by Archibaldcrane on Apr 24, 2010 12:40 PM CDT reply actions
Haha I stopped watching after 30 seconds. Ever seen a more poorly made highlight video?
by packallday555 on Apr 24, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
And here's a glowing review
A short, squatty lineman who has three years of starting experience at left tackle, Newhouse lacks ideal length and doesn’t possess the skill set needed to play on the blind side in the pros. Yet he displays natural bend in his stance and does a good job firing off the ball in the run game, creating leverage on contact and getting a push off the ball. He isn’t heavy-handed and doesn’t stick to blocks but has some in-line power and will create creases inside. He lacks ideal footwork and overall range in pass protection. Newhouse doesn’t display a technically sound kick-step and allows his base to get too narrow out of his stance. He struggles to reach the corner vs. speed and has a tendency to open up his hips and lunge into blocks. He displays the ability to sit into his stance and anchor on contact but can lose his balance when engaged. He exhibits only average redirect skills in space but consistently fails to mirror opposing linemen and too easily falls off blocks on the edge. Overall, he has some upside as an offensive guard prospect because of his in-line power and ability to anchor inside. Newhouse isn’t functional in space but with time could end up playing for an NFL team.
by Archibaldcrane on Apr 24, 2010 12:42 PM CDT reply actions
wonderful.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
by tehzachatak on Apr 24, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
GB pick Marshall Newhouse.
OG from TCU.
Strengths: good leverage, can slide outside to cut off speed rushers, quick, demolishes LBs, gorilla strength.
Weaknesses: not tall enough, arm leaght, doesn’t use his hand punch during passing plays.
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Marshall Newhouse
From NFL.com. He’s a little like Jamon Meredith from the 5th round last year: a tackle project. But unlike Meredith, he’s been a starter for the past 3 seasons at TCU (Meredith was benched during his senior season). You can’t coach size and he’s got it (6’4" 319 lbs) and a 34 inch arm length which is longer than Bulaga at just over 33. The Packers could use more size on the line, but as Archibaldcrane said above, Newhouse could use some coaching, and he might not be able to cut it as a tackle. He’s not a bad project for the 5th round, and he could wind up on the practice squad in September.
well, he's smart
Scored a 32 on the Wonderlic… 14th in the draft
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
32 out of 50
puts you at 14th overall in the draft?
Good lord there are some dumb bastards playing football out there ><
by Archibaldcrane on Apr 24, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
it's a difficult test.
Myron Rolle’s a Rhodes scholar and only scored a 33.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
by tehzachatak on Apr 24, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
i would have loved to draft him, but we've got enough safeties now...
i’d much rather have a CB or a pass rusher, i just don’t know any of the names left really, so no idea if they’re any good
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
by tehzachatak on Apr 24, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
no elite speed and average in man-to-man coverage will cost you.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
anyone know why has Brandon Lang fallen so far? i remember he used to be discussed as a possible 1st rounder
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
grammar fail
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
by tehzachatak on Apr 24, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
A guy we could look at!
This is a biased opinion but a guy we should look at in the 7th round is Dane Fletcher OLB of Montana State University. At his Pro day he did 29 reps which would have been in Top 3 for OLB’s and ran 4.6 in his 40 which would have been 3rd fastest among OLB’s. He is a relentless pass rusher with multiple moves and can hold up against the run as he played end at this level. He has the athletic ability to drop into coverage. And is a great special teams player.
The reality is we are not going to get an instant starter in these rounds. They are going to be projects. Our best hope now is a veteran free agent who is cut by another team and to develop our own players. You can’t fill all the needs of a team at once and build for the future. Brad Jones has had one year in the system and I am sure he will improve his skills under Kevin Greene. We still need ST players and developmental guys. We have done well this draft in getting value now and for the future in the picks we made in the first three rounds.
MTPack Fan Montana’s #1 Packer Fan
Good Player
The kid from Montana is a solid safety and good ST player. Atlanta has another kid from the University of Montana on their roster playing DE.
meh if you want a big strong runner i'd prefer Dwyer
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
by tehzachatak on Apr 24, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder if
Chris Maragos will get drafted.
by Archibaldcrane on Apr 24, 2010 12:53 PM CDT reply actions
Damn Arthur Moats gone.
would’ve been a nice pass rusher prospect.
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they went QB :D
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
So any positives in getting that OG in the 5th?
I think we are set at OG and C, why another G?
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Sexy Pick...
You are expecting a sexy pick in the 6th and 7th round of the draft…. There are never any sexy picks this late… at least when initially drafted…. 3 years from now maybe…. Which is why evaluating a draft seconds after each pick is ridiculous! If that was the case Brett Favre would have been booed, Tom Brady never would have been a Super Bowl Qb…etc… You just can’t do it…. Wait till they have played some games in the NFL before we judge them.
DD was a 7th rounder,Tauscher 7th, Adam Timmerman 7th, Dorsey Levens 5th, Chmura was a 6th, Wells a 7th, Players can be found late and develop into quality starters.
Niners, dixon
Niners add anthony dixon, perfect fit, steal, monster draft.
I’ve watched Blount a lot here in oregon, skill wise he’d be a steal in the 6th, no injuries, redzone touchdown machine, really athletic for how big is he is, problem, he rarely if ever blocked in oregons scheme, didn’t do much catching, really fast for his size, faster than brandon jacobs, but not fast compared with smaller backs.
Poor Dan. He'll never have a chance now. His career was over before it even began.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
doesn’t live up to his talent level, dudes inconsistent.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Would anybody be upset if we drafted QB Tony Pike to be our 3rd String QB?
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Dekoda Watson OLB, Florida State
NFP Grade: 5.7
Scouting Report:
Dekoda Watson: No. 36, OLB, 6-2, 226
Watson lacks power in all areas of his game. He consistently gets stonewalled as a pass rusher and isn’t much of a factor when asked to take on blocks between the tackles. He showcases natural body control in space and has the ability to slip blocks but would much rather run around blocks than take them off. Watson is a gifted athlete who can run sideline to sideline and make plays in pursuit, but he gets knocked off balance too easily and isn’t the most physical of tacklers. He gets caught up at the line of scrimmage and sealed on plays away from his frame. He struggles to keep himself clean. Watson is an above-average athlete in coverage, looks comfortable in his drop and has the fluidity to cleanly get out of his breaks and close in coverage. He’s more of a Cover 2-only guy who’s at his best in run-and-hit situations. He isn’t someone who can play inside the box and still be effective at the next level.
Grade: 5.7
Whoa!
barely heard any negatives on him. Kept hearing is fast, better for the Tampa 2 D, and has the skills to start on any defensive unit.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I would have to think with the addition of Newhouse, who could play guard and possibly RT, we will be waving goodbye to Barbre and Giacomini barring an incredible turnaround
Possibly
It’ll be interesting to see what they do with those two guys next year. They both managed to stay on the roster all year somehow.
Yeah, I figure he'll stay
it’s also only his 2nd year and he’s pretty versatile throughout the line.
Giacomini and Barbre are my two picks to be dropped or put on Practice Squad (Barring fantastic camp performance). Unless Colledge doesn’t fix his play and attitude. I know it doesn’t much matter at this point but has he signed his tender yet?
TBD
Because he's massive
And his measureables are really good. We’ll see if he learned how to play tackle soon enough.
^this^
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes!
We still have NO ONE to return kicks. Blackmon, if he doesn’t have that explosiveness, will not be enough.
OLB OLB OLB
Rahim Alem Rahim Alem Rahim Alem !!!!
I didn't understand the Neal pick at first.
But he’s got that perfect size to play DE for the 3-4. Think Haloti Ngata. (Hope Haloti Ngata)
ngata?
ngata is a nose tackle that weighs 360 lbs and was the 12th pick in the draft and started from day 1. neal is a de that might see the field this year, remember we have harrel,wynn,jolly,jenkins and raji plays some end already.
GB on the clock. With the 193rd pick GB selects...
David Pender? Kion Wilson? LeGarrette Blount? Dexter Davis? A.J. Jefferson? Matt Dodge haha?
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TT does love WRs.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Ugh
There’s the Justin Harrell stat for you, missed all of 2009 with a shoulder injury.
by coltinjespersen on Apr 24, 2010 1:44 PM CDT reply actions
at least
if he fails you can say he was just a 6th round pick and not a 1st.
james starks------lol
i actually called this pick in my 2 mock drafts i posted on this site. look it up, i also said the 6th round.
this is actually a good pick, the kid missed the 09 season with a shoulder injury but is big andfast and has reliable hands
wow. james starks, RB Buffalo
Holds school record for total yards even though he missed most of the 2009 season. Well, i guess that’s why he’s drafted late. He could be a huge gem, this is the time we take risks on players. I was hoping for Myron Rolle, but we’ll see if this guy works out.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
James Starks RB, Buffalo
NFP Grade: 5.4
Scouting Report:
James Starks: No. 19, RB, 6-2, 218
A tall back with a thick frame who showcases decent coordination and patience between the tackles. Starks does a nice job allowing his blockers to set up in front of him and picking his way through the line of scrimmage. He lacks lateral quickness and struggles hitting the cutback lane with any kind of burst. Starks plays at one speed and has no type of second gear once he breaks into the open field. He doesn’t make many defenders miss but has the power and balance to step through tackles. He needs to be more decisive and do a better job squaring his shoulders at the line. Starks is a big back with some power and coordination, but he plays at one speed and lacks the wiggle to make opponents miss in the NFL.
Grade: 5.4
James Starks
He’s an actual guy who was rumored about over the past couple months. I believe I saw his name on the Journal Sentinel site. He’s 6’2" 218 lbs. with a 4.5 40 time which is great for a guy his size. Fits in with the Ryan Grant style back with size and speed. I bet he sticks as the 3rd RB (if healthy).
Not as a 3rd down back
Though he’s got good hands for all I know. He’d be 3rd on the depth chart, and would effectively replace Grant as the starting back if Grant got hurt. But Brandon Jackson is still the 3rd down back.
James Starks...
4.49 40 time
strengths: tough, competitive, patient in hitting holes and following blockers, instinctive, can catch the ball, works hard in pass protection(but still needs to work on it).
weaknesses: one speed runner, lacks explosiveness, struggles to make sharp cuts, durability risk.
They want power. We want respect...
hah, yeah.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
7th round
antonio brown—-central michigan(wr)
4.4 forty.5’10" 190 lbs. punt returner. had 13 receptions in the bowl game and returned a kick for a td
Brandon Jacobs type RBs.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
it was a nice dream :‘(’’’
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Jags will probably take him at 203
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
exactly why I don’t work in the NFL :(
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Matt Moore just shit himself...
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
haha getting bailed out.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow. I had no idea all these defensive linemen are free agents after this season: Cullen Jenkins, Johny Jolly, Justin Harrell
Jenkins better resign
Jolly will be gone
This is Harrell’s final chance to redeem his career.
After looking at this, I like the Mike Neal pick even more.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
What will it be like next year?
The labor situation looks dicey in 2011 and a lockout is possible, so I’m not sure about Jolly’s free agent status. Jenkins might leave anyway because he may have more value as a pass rushing DT in 4-3 scheme, so that’s a good point.
Cullen Jenkins
After another year in the 3-4, I think he’ll come to realize he’s getting more recognition in the 3-4 as opposed to when he was in the 4-3. Look at Richard Seymour early in his career in New England and currently in Oakland…He was never a great DE in the 4-3 (much like Cullen Jenkins). However, when he played in the 3-4 at DE in New England, he became known as the best 3-4 DE in the game. Less glory, but more recognition and fame.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
7th Round.... Where are we going?
I am telling you… Dane Fletcher OLB Montana State University…. #3 on Kiper’s best OLB’s left!
I would say P but the East Carolina kid just went and Mesko is already gone.
A RS would be okay as well.
how to kill some time while wait for GBs pick. A drunk trying to put on his flip flops.
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Think i'd prefer OLB at this point
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Not from the sound of this
http://nfldraft.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=65876&PT=7&PR=2&type=scoutingreport#scouting
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
Wow. CJ Wilson. I was looking at his scouting report before the draft too.
he will surely be a 3-4 DE. Obviously a backup.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Good Point
We really do have a need at OLB. Poppinga better not see the field this season.
This draft and the extension last season project Chillar to be a big part of the defense this season.
Safeties are more valuable than Corners in a 3-4, so I understand the move on Morgan Burnett completely.
I was surprised we didn’t get an OLB, but apparently we had a couple targeted in the 2nd Round. Unfortunately, as the board favored us in the 1st Round, it didn’t favor us in the 2nd Round. Just think, we could have got OLB Jerry Hughes and OT Charles Brown. It happens though, the draft is so unpredictbable.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
I'm not upset about the Burnett Pick
But I do think we should have at least gotten a CB after replaying the Cardinal and Steelers games in my head all offseason…i can’t watch Jarrett Bush and company get torched all season again
by tmoneyttime1 on Apr 24, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
GB personal must believe Harris and Lee will come back strong and that Jones will continue to grow.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably Underwood too
dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove
right better prospect than anyone that was available today.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Showcasing good flexibility off of the snap, Wilson does a nice job reading and reacting quickly to plays, getting his hands up in pass lanes and finding the football. He lacks ideal burst off of the edge and isn’t the kind of threat to consistently reach the corner. However, he displays good short-area quickness as a pass rusher and does a nice job dropping his pad level, extending his arms and generating power from his lower half on the bull-rush. Wilson displays the power to overwhelm opposing tackles on contact and collapse the pocket. He’s too much of a straight-line athlete, doesn’t exhibit the body control to cleanly change directions on a counter-move and doesn’t use his hands well to shed blocks off of the edge.
My main concern is CB...
We are still just one major injury away from our secondary getting Jarrett Bushed everytime he steps on the field. Maybe we can get another solid corner in before the beginning of the season.
by redraidercominatya on Apr 24, 2010 3:20 PM CDT reply actions
Pass rush OK with C.J. Wilson
From NFL.com. It’s odd that they talk about him as a OLB candidate when he’s 290 lbs. But they also say “he has good edge quickness and speed… as a pass rusher”. If he is a good pass rusher, that might be OK because they could use him as a situational pass rusher. On 3rd downs (passing downs) Kampman and Matthews would often lineup as a down lineman and the defense more resembled a 4-3. They didn’t make drafting a pass rusher a priority, but at least they did address it with a guy they could use.
That should be it for the Packers
Thanks to everyone who commented on the dullest of draft days. This was a great comment thread.
Take it easy
I can’t believe all the naysayers… Are you really that down on Brad Jones? Do you think we would find his immediate upgrade in the later rounds? My feeling is that the feel good about Brad Jones improvement this offseason or we have our eye on a veteran that will be released in the coming weeks after the draft. As for CB I think that medical staff think Al Harris is coming back strong and that the coaching staff feel that Pat Lee will emerge as a nickel /dime corner. And that Blackmon will be back returning kicks and be our 5th corner. We won’t have to see Bush then as a CB.
If we would have taken a CB and OLB early then people would have been complaining we didn’t address our O-line needs with two aging tackles. You can’t do it all in one draft. Next year we will address CB and OLB as well.
I feel that while this draft wasn’t sexy it addressed many needs for this year and the future. Baluga fills an immediate and future O-line need. We really needed depth at S and someone to challenge Bigby. We need DL depth and some one to push Jolly and possible replacement for Jolly and Jenkins if one of them leaves. Quarless give us another threat to downfield and can replace Lee and is insurance for Havner. Newhouse helps push our guards and helps solidify the interior so we don’t have to rotate so many people on the Oline.
Let’s wait a few years and see where this draft really ranks. I am pretty sure alot of people were down on Finley after Year one and when we drafted him but now love him.
Bring on the 2010 season!
Go Packers!
MTPackfan
there were hints that GB thought Underwood is a better prospect than anyone that has available today. Hope Burnett outplays Bigby though.
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by SenorChuckles on Apr 24, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
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