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Since LB Aaron Kampman left in free agency, I've been focused on drafting an OLB to bring a pass rush from Kampman's old spot. But I feel like I'm the only one who thinks that's a good idea. When I drafted LB Sergio Kindle in the SB Nation writers mock draft at Mocking The Draft, they were surprised I passed over Rutgers OT Anthony Davis. 

Some mock drafts are still thinking the Packers should draft an offensive lineman, such as Wes Bunting over at the National Football Post who picked USC OT Charles Brown. But every other one I looked at yesterday, the four over at NFL Draft Scout and Doug Farrar at The Shutdown Corner, went with cornerbacks. Three of them picked Rutgers CB Devin McCourty, who's profile over at NFL.com says he's "average sized." He's obviously a great athlete, but is he really good enough for a 1st round pick?

I need some help from the APC community. I'll probably update this poll as we get closer to the draft which starts on April 22. But what position should the Packers target in the 1st round?

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The Packers should draft a player in the 1st round at the following position:
Offensive tackle
749 votes
Cornerback
376 votes
Outside linebacker
405 votes
Somewhere else
106 votes

1636 votes | Poll has closed

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Hey man

It’s all about who’s available. Who’s on the board. It would make no sense to draft an OT in the 1st Round just because he’s an OT. We need to get value out of him. I wouldn’t be upset if we drafted Davis, but I personally don’t think he fits our system. To be honest, you can’t go wrong though between Anthony Davis, Charles Brown, Serio Kindle, or Jerry Hughes. We do have a need at LOLB. It’s a big need and we need an immediate starter next season. A LOLB will reduce our desperate need for another CB, so I vote LOLB > CB. As for OLB against OT, it’s a coin flip. You can’t go wrong either way, as long as both positions are addressed in the top 2 rounds.

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Apr 8, 2010 7:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Exactly, we need an OT

But we don’t need one so much that we need to reach for one. Personally, I’m starting to like the idea of trading down since I keep hearing how deep this draft is with talent. Regardless of where we pick though, we need an OLB. Part of the reason we were torn apart by Favre, Roethlisberger, Warner was our inability to get to the QB. Clay Matthews is very good but we need someone opposite him, I think Brad Jones is a serviceable player but he’s not the impact player Matthews is, and that’s what we need. I think we need a CB, but it can wait till a later round (I’d like to see us get Donovan Warren from Michigan if he falls to the third) Plus, I’d like to see what a healthy Will Blackmon or Pat Lee can do.

by Charlie Kelly on Apr 8, 2010 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

The only draft to have nightmares about is 2007

‘08 wasn’t that bad. Nelson should pan out. Lee too if can stay healthy. Brohm, well everyone thought he was the only one that was going to pan out at the time. Add in two starters and potential probowlers in Finely and Sitton and a solid backup in Flynn and that’s not too bad a haul.

Now ’07 is where you will find disappointments. Harrell, Jackson, Barbre, Rouse, Clowney, etc. When the only bright spots of that draft are James Jones and Crosby something is very wrong.

by PackApologist on Apr 8, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know if it would be the best move, I'm just going by what the "Experts" say

Supposedly, this draft is so loaded with talent, there will be many day one starters well into round 2 and if that truly was the case it would be nice to get as many as possible.

by Charlie Kelly on Apr 8, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nelson?

I know he seems to be a fave around here, but is he any better than Jones? I don’t think so. Not enough data on Lee, but if there’s no reason for pessimism, neither is there any reason for optimism.

Anyway, it all depends on who is available.

by uglyfatpimplynerd on Apr 8, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nelson

The two major knocks on Nelson is that he hasn’t been able to outshine DD and Jones and he sucked as a kick returner. Well the returner bit is not his primary position and he was there due to injuries, so I’ll give him a pass on that.

The first one is more concerning and why I only state that he “should” pan out. Jones and Nelson each have to step up and actually start to make us forget DD. I love DD, but these two guys should be each making hard pushes at the #2 spot at this point in all of their careers. The fact is that is not happening. I don’t know if DD is just an ageless wonder, or if these two just are not performing as well as they should be (probably some combination of the two), but the bottom line is that Nelson is under performing a bit…but all it takes is one good season and that should be worked out.

by PackApologist on Apr 8, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Part of it is opportunity. Neither Jones nor Nelson has really had a chance to step up and shine. They are really the 4th and 5th options out there after Jennings, DD, and Finley. Sure they could step up and steal some of that and they haven’t but they also aren’t out there nearly as much. I am more disappointed in Jones than Nelson actually because he’s been aroudn for one more year and actually showed A LOT in his rookie year. He just hasn’t improved since then.

by TrevorR on Apr 8, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't really pay much attention to the 2008 draft

Good god! I had no idea we passed on both DeSean Jackson and Ray Rice in favor of Jordy Nelson and Brian Brohm.

by Charlie Kelly on Apr 11, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Give me the BPA

Jabooty is right, It is all about who is available. So if Dez Bryant or CJ Spiller or even Mike Iupati fall, I would hope TT does not hesitate to pull the trigger. This draft is deep enough (Especially at the OLB and CB positions) where we can wait a round or 2 and get a starter.

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by Hyatt on Apr 8, 2010 8:09 AM CDT reply actions  

Simplistic view

Look we have a late pick.
We can’t just say we have to go this position. If we didn’t sign Tausch and Clifton, then we’d have a glaring deficiency at a position and OT would be the obvious choice. That isn’t the case…we have adequate players at numerous positions of need all of which could use an upgrade (CB, OT, OLB, even SS). At this point, its all about who’s on the board. There are only about 3 positions where I would be mad if I saw the Packers draft a player in the first round, the rest I can justify if they are the best player available.

by TrevorR on Apr 8, 2010 8:39 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm with the other opinions here so far

The weird thing about the Packers right now is that, with the exception at tackle, so much depends on how some of the young players are developing in the offseason…an unknown.

Some big ifs:
IF Obizor can improve we may not need an OLB.
IF Jones can add some bulk to his frame and still play quick we don’t need an OLB
IF Lee can stay healthy for a whole year, or the Pack not rush him to IR, then CB will be in better shape.

I don’t think that these are going to all happen, in fact I would be shocked and deeply satisfied if one of these three things happened, but each of them throw a monkey wrench into thinking about what positions do the Pack “need” to draft in. Basically the TT should just look at who’s left, look at the board and compare value and needs. The only position we should reach for in the first round is LT, after that it’s all about who can make a bigger impact for this team.

by PackApologist on Apr 8, 2010 8:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, those are a lot of 'ifs' and is extremely risky to rely on

especially given our schedule is a lot more difficult this season.

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Apr 8, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

No doubt

I’m not saying that all these things will happen. In fact odds are that they won’t happen. All I’m saying is that there are pieces in place for everything on this team except LT. That is all.

by PackApologist on Apr 8, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

It depends on whether Kindle or Graham are there. If not draft an OT.

by Yankees10 on Apr 8, 2010 10:16 AM CDT reply actions  

Normally I'd say that the gap between 1st and 2nd round tackles is bigger than the gap between 1st and 2nd round pass rushers

but Sergio Kindle is a special talent, and I think it may be a bigger need anyways. I agree whole-heartedly with the pick. Also, Doug Farrar has repeatedly proven that he knows zilch about the Packers so i don’t even know why you bother referencing him.

by Donald Driver on Apr 8, 2010 11:39 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd love Kindle in the first and Selvish Capers in the second.

Capers fits the ZBS well. Not sure if he’ll still be there at 56, though.

Selgy

by mittens on Apr 8, 2010 11:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Jabooty is right

We all understands are big needs at LT, OLB, and CB I think you select the best player available at those positions when our spot comes up. But if one the big names drops i.e. Dez, CJ or anyone else projected to go earlier I think we grab them..

by bizzle4 on Apr 8, 2010 12:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Pass rush

Unless TT pulls off 2 blockbuster trades to get Darrell Revis and Ed Reed the Pack better start finding a pass rusher or they will get killed by every good quarterback in the NFL. Not to mention making below average QBs like Tampa Bay’s look like Joe Montana….

by Hinder on Apr 8, 2010 12:15 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't disagree but...

If we don’t address LT in this draft when will it be done? I think we can all agree that Cliffy is not going to make through this contract, and there’s a strong possibility that he won’t make it through the year. As I look over the roster there are potential long term answers for everything but blind side protector of Rodgers. Is there enough tackles in this draft to find a competent long term prospect in the second or third round?

That said the key to the first round draft pick is best talent available as so many have said. It really doesn’t matter if it’s a pass rusher, a corner, a left tackle, or just a playmaker in general.

by PackApologist on Apr 8, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hughes

As alot of you may already know, I am a huge Hughes fan… Some sites think he is the best 34 OLB in the draft! He has an explosive 1st step rushing the QB. He showed by his college PRODUCTION that he is a better pass rusher than Kindle!

Hughes also has the quickness and abiltiy to change direction that is necessary in coverage…. Might need to get a little strong to play better vs the run, but thats mostly the job of the DL, so the LB don’t have to take on OL.

Hughes, IMO, should be the pick!!! Only about 4 players would change my pick. Bulaga or Williams at OT, Spiller at RB, and maybe Bryant. Other than one of those elite talents would even make me think twice before taking HUGHES!!!

by Strohman on Apr 8, 2010 12:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Obviously it's always BPA, but...

As far as need, it’s mostly about depth for us right now, which is good. We have legitimate starters at pretty much every position. The debatable spots are Brad Jones and Atari Bigby. Jones was a pleasant surprise, but just doesn’t seem like a guy you want to rely on. So he seems to at least need help (which, we have Popinga, but… myeh). Atari you’d like to replace, given how he’s slowed/faded the last two seasons (ever since the ankle), and there’s really nobody behind him. So I’d rate safety as the bigger concern between those two positions, but it’d be nice to draft guys at both. But, although they do have to develop, the fact remains that we do have talented guys at OLB. Safety… there we need help, but you can usually find safeties later in the draft, so…

I think the big question this offseason is: who do you think is more likely to get hurt in the coming year, Clifton or two of our top four CBs? We’re fine if three out of Woodson, Harris, Williams, and Lee can stay healthy. But two CB injuries puts Bell, Ford, or (shudder!) Jarrett Bush on the field in the nickel package. As we all know, that scenario ends badly. On the other hand, we also saw what happened when Clifton missed time.

Thankfully, we won’t see a repeat of Barbre turning whichever scrub he’s facing into Freddy Krueger. RT is settled, with Tausch and Lang giving us the rare luxury of having two proven RTs on the roster. But, LT… there’s nothing there behind Clifton. Not a single guy who can even play competently, much less a guy you’d want to make your plans around.

So, I’d say that the first couple rounds have to be all about LT. There seems to be six legitimate 1st rounder LTs in this draft, so, if any of them are there, you take the best one left. If not, then you think about trading down slightly so you don’t have to reach, but… you only THINK about it. Bottom line, we’ve GOT to have a strong LT prospect by the time the 2nd round of the draft is over.

by Curly Lambeau on Apr 8, 2010 1:19 PM CDT reply actions  

I mean, I’m comfortable with Clifton starting, and we can count on him to contribute, but…

Think it through. We have NOBODY behind him at LT.

by Curly Lambeau on Apr 8, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let’s face it: Clifton WILL get hurt. It’s practically a given. And do you want Daryn Colledge playing LT for us? I mean, for even one snap??

by Curly Lambeau on Apr 8, 2010 1:29 PM CDT reply actions  

On second thought...

I think our draft strategy should be BFBA (best full-back available)

Man, if we’d have just kept Pat Lee or Antonio Smith on the roster instead of either Kuhn or Hall… …man! I’m all for TT in most matters, but that was the stupidest move since B.J. Sander.

by Curly Lambeau on Apr 8, 2010 1:37 PM CDT reply actions  

If Jerry Hughes is there

He would be the BPA. I think he is a stud.

TT likes to draft lineman later.

Jerry hughes in the first,
OT in the second to sit a year or 2 behind Clifton
Then a CB and SS to give our secondary depth.

Hopefully our draft looks like that.

by vic1124 on Apr 8, 2010 1:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Exactly

That is exactly the way I see it!!! OLB is a need. Capers must have another OLB that can get after the QB, and Hughes is the best in the draft, in order to prevent some of the meltdowns we had vs the better QB’s in the NFL. If a top LT falls to us, I would take him, but all indications are that Okung, Bulaga, Williams and Davis will be long gone. I don’t consider Brown or Campbell 1st rd prospects! Take one of them or Veldheer or Saffold in the 2nd… Then I look at CB and S in the next couple rds!

by Strohman on Apr 8, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT, just not first round

Think of the first round as someone you want starting right now. I don’t think a drafted OT will start this year of clifton or Taucher, so draft an OT in a later round (3rd?) and develop. I’m in favor of a pass rushing LB. I can see a rookie OLB as an upgrad to what we have. Maybe even a safety. My philosophy with the first round is that you draft someone you think will start from day 1, or you can develop into someone great like A-Rod.

by Tim V on Apr 8, 2010 3:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Snoopy, Linus, and Charlie Brown

The more I read on Charles Brown from USC the more I like him. I know he’s got some strength issues, but he’s got great technique and maturity. He could be a great prospect and would give the Pack a solid LT for years to come to grow with the rest of our young playmakers.

I know all the OLB believers are going to jump down my throat on this one, but Brown could be the best long term prospect even though he may never see the field in ’10. Also, like I said earlier, every other position besides LT has some kind of answer to it…this is critical to our future and needs to be addressed.

by PackApologist on Apr 8, 2010 6:57 PM CDT reply actions  

BPA for sure

if they slip,C.J. Spiller or Taylor Mays(he’ll prolly be available at 23). Unless maybe we can trade a 1st round(and maybe a 3/4th) and get a guy like Shawne Merriman. Gamebreakers

by HotTubTony on Apr 9, 2010 9:50 AM CDT reply actions  

The only way that trade will work is if we get in he hot tub time machine

Merriman not has not been the same since getting off the roids, and definitely not the same since his knee injury. That trade would of been good a few years ago, now it would just be a good deal for the Chargers.

by PackApologist on Apr 9, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

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