How do YOU think The Pack will do this year?
With the re-signing of many of the Packers key players, the maturation of Aaron Rodgers (who, in my opinion, could be one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time) as well as a pretty good draft with Bryan Baluga falling to the Packers at number 23, I think a good year is in order. The only concern I have is the passing defense, with Al Harris and Charles Woodson only getting older and Harris coming off of knee surgery. Where do you guys think the Pack will be in 2010?
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I don't see us...
doing worse than last year. With the tougher schedule it might be hard to his 12 wins though. I am going for the 10-11 range!
I agree with you there.
Actually I see the Vikes hitting abotu that same number (if we don’t lose the wall or Favre). This year we’re going to have to win as many as we can in conference because I can see a strong chance at a tie for the play off spot. Worse, this conference is going to be tough, and if one of our teams slips one of us might not be able to hit into that wild card spot.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
Yeah its going to be hard. I am a little apprehensive about the Bears with Martz. It could totally backfire (I hope) but the guy is an offensive genius. If he can get the guys to do his thing, they could be a tough win for our teams!
I think there will be a steep learning curve with Martz
I don’t know if Cutler is going to be able to deal with his offense in a timely manner. As well his receivers are pretty darn green. Martz is all about perfect routes and excellent timing. People who play the Bears at the beginning of the season are going to be the lucky ones. As well they didn’t do much to their line other than get Tice and I can’t see him turning that midden heap around in OTA’s
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
11-5 NFC North champs
Should make a run in the playoffs too. The west has fallin down alot with Warner retireing and Bolden gettting traded. And after that there really aren’t any sure picks to go all the way like there is in the AFC. Dallas and N.O. are good, but neither team seems impressive enough to make a legitimate case for at this point.
yeah 10-11 wins...
we have a tougher schedule but I believe we will be a better team this year than last with the added help from the draft and guys coming back healthy. I know AL Harris has lost a step but having him back out there instead of Bush, Peprah and so on already improves the passing D. And now that we have a year under Capers hopefully the D can light a fire under themselves and be even better this year
Coaching Is Wild Card
With the Packers returning what looks to be another sound and contending team…I see the coaches as being a “wold card” that must excel if the Packers are going to get farther in the Play-offs this year. Not only does special teams coaching need to improve, but play-calling on the offensive side has GOT to show some different wrinkles and creativity if the Pack is going to get past the likes of the Vikings, Cardinals and other teams of that caliber. It’s going to boil my blood to see the Packers run the same old two yards and a cloud of dust variety plays on 3rd and 6 when the situation calls for 7 yards to obtain the 1st down. Along those lines, I would love nothing more that to see the Packers develop a killer bunch of “screen plays” (scrren right, screen left, middle screen) reminiscent of the Holmgren days, since we all should be able to recall just how potent of a wrinkle that was for the Favre, Bennett, Levens, Henderson offense.
Having said all of that, I re-iterate that Capers on the d-side and McCarthy on the o-side are responsible for giving both units different looks and audibles to keep opposing offenses and defenses on their heels this year…the Pack isn’t about to surprise anyone this year and without some ingenuity (especially on offense) their opponents are just going to pin their ears back and come after them like bat’s out of hell.
I agree
Although I don’t have as specific of a recommendation about what they need to change as you do, I do think that one of the main things we have to overcome is just having the will to win in big spots. It always seems like McCarthy’s teams can get just good enough to raise expectations through the roof, but then they wilt when the lights get hot.
Holmgren’s teams (read “Favre”) went through this too, though, so maybe they’ll overcome it. In ‘96, they were focused with the mind-set of "we’re going to get it done this year and nobody and nothing is going to stop us ‘til the job’s done" (as opposed to “boy, I sure hope we’re good enough to get far this year” followed by “holy crap, we just might be good enough, and it would sure make us happy if something good falls into our laps”)
by Curly Lambeau on May 24, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you still need a serious playmaker on the D line or KB core
in 96 you had one of the best DE’s ever to play the game. I think you’ll need that once again before you can pull this off. Now Clay might be enough, but he’s got a couple of years before he’s playing at the level he needs to.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
We definitely need another pass rusher opposite Clay
Can Brad Jones adequately fill that role? Hopefully.
by Charlie Kelly on May 25, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Pass Rusher
I wanted a pass rusher in the draft more than anyone!!! I wanted Hughes in the 1st, tho taking Bulaga was the right move. OLB in the 34 need to be playmakers and Jones wasn’t one last year, nor was he ever one in college! He just isn’t that kinda player… He has good athleticism and is a natural OLB, but he isn’t the type of playmaker we need! Give Capers another guy like Matthews and watch what the D can do. Just hope there is one again next year! Or the unlikely, Thompson takes a chance of Merriman, which I doubt!
O linemen take time to develop
Pass Rushers can come in and make serious impacts their first year.
Good bye Big Walt.
by Generzal Zod on May 26, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree
One thing nobody mentioned last season, was just how badly the TB game hurt us. I know with the way things developed, the Vikes were 2 games ahead,so it always was out of reach. I was thinking all last year, as the Vikes got into that small problem at the end of the year (the couple of losses nobody thought they’d have) how much pressure would the Pack had put on the Vikes had the beat TB and where only 1 game behind. IMO that was the worst loss of the season. I know we used it as a spring board and got some clairity out of it. Point being, after that game, most people here were calling for MM’s head. Even though we turned it around, it was that lack of killer instinct and poor play calling that lead us to fall apart at that time. That can not happen at all this season.
I don't see the Division changing too much
I’m still not sold on the Bears, but I think the Lions will win more than 2 games this year
I think both Vikings and Packers lose one win off their records from last year, due to the strength of their schedules
The Bears will win any where from 5 to 8 games, and the Lions will win about 5 or 6
So it’s still gonna be Vikings or Packers as Division champs next year, with the other team getting a wild card berth
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin
by thewild_viking_twins on May 24, 2010 2:04 PM CDT reply actions
Thats what i am thinking
I think the division might come down to the two games between Vikes and Pack. Hopefully our Oline will hold up better this season and our D can do something against him, if he comes back.
The Bears are more of a wild card...
but not in the way we use it in making it to the playoffs!
I think they made some interesting moves this year to attempt to improve on their 7 win season. Will it be enough? Hard to tell, but it has to be worth a win or two on paper. Now in practice, can Martz make it work? Hard to tell, since he bombed in his last stint.
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by Bush League All Star on May 25, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Yea, it's hard to gauge where the Bears will be this year
If Peppers goes out to prove everyone wrong, and Urlacher and Harris both return to form, they could be pretty decent defensively. And of course, if Martz can help Cutler, they could be decent offensively. Of course, the exact opposite could happen as well and the teams lack of depth and skill at some important positions could lead to them falling behind Detroit.
by Charlie Kelly on May 25, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think Cutler will do well in Martz's offense
his first time out I think it will take some time. Martz is looking for a very accurate passer and I think Cutler might need to work on that a bit. As for Peppers well this league has a lot of top notch pass rushers now, I think most teams will be able to handle him, especially since he’ll be the only one pressing that much.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
The Bear's still don't have a secondary
It’s even worse than ours, if the pass rush either a). decides not to show up or b). get’s slowed for whatever reason, teams like the Vikings or Packers, or heck even the Lions will rip them to shreds
Chris Harris makes the secondary a little better, but they still have no corners
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin
by thewild_viking_twins on May 25, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Tillman is respectable, as is Bowman but after that their in trouble. Peppers does improve the secondary though, as well as Urlacher’s return.
by packallday555 on May 25, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought they released Tillman
maybe I’m thinking of Vasher…
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin
by thewild_viking_twins on May 25, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
As a Bears fan...........
I can see us wining the wild card……Peppers doesn’t need to have 10-20 sacks.All he needs to do, is get a constant double team………Bowman had 6 Int, in a year were are defensive line couldn’t get too a person in a wheel chair, let alone a NFL QB……You can’t really judge a secondary, when your Line can’t get pressure.You just leave your corners to hang out and dry……. Not in the cover 2 system at least…….
by I love football! on May 26, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Dream Much
Bears are not going to win a wild card berth! Not when you have to overtake the Pack and viqueens. Sorry, just don’t see it!
Cover 2 is fast becoming obsolete… Teams know how to attack and beat it and its pretty easy, especially if the pass rush doesn’t get there!
Whats going to motivate Peppers now that he got paid? He’s always been about getting the money! Kinda like Haynesworthless!!! LOL
All I'm saying is...........
Don’t count the Bears out…….. We went 7-9 without Urlacher.We had a terrible offensive scheme, and absolutely no pressure from a Defensive line that was atrocious……….Yet we still went 7-9……We could of won 2 more games, but just didn’t execute well….. We lost against the 49ers and eagles by 4 points.2 very winnable games but we just didn’t preform up too par…..
by I love football! on May 26, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly
Honestly I think Lovie and your GM are reaching for straws! They know their jobs are on the line w/ Cutler at QB. He is what started it and they have to win this year to keep their jobs. Martz has an good offensive scheme, but he has always care little about INT’s. How is having a OC who cares little about them AND a QB who isn’t afraid to throw the ball into coverage going to work? I predicted Cutler would throw 20 INT’s last year, in a conservative offense, now w/ Martz he could throw even more!
2 more wins still doesn’t get you in the playoffs last year. I’m sure we had a couple losses by 4 pts or less too.
Urlacher is about done. How old is he? 33 or something… He is only going to get MORE injury prone, not less!
Kiss Lovie goodbye… I see another .500 record and no playoffs, and a Lovechild looking for work! LOL
Your missing my point.........
I’m not saying we’re going be 16-0………My point is too never underestimate your opponent. I completely agree with everything you just said. I’m not denying that our management is terrible, and Urlacher isn’t getting any younger………..If a couple of pieces fall just right for the Bears.Don’t be surprised if the Bears are fighting for the wild card spot…….I’m not saying the pieces will come together but if they do……………………
by I love football! on May 26, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
It's be tough there is one thing that is standing out though
NFC north is quickly becoming one of the if not the toughest devision in the league. The people who don’t make our wildcard could go over to teh NFC West and clean up.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
I’m definitely with you on this. Things were pretty bad last year for you guys, and you still managed to go 7-9, and beat some good teams in Minnesota and Pittsburgh. When I watched the Bears, the biggest they struggled to me on defense was the absence of Urlacher. The MLB is key to the cover 2 scheme being effective, as is a pass rush which you guys also didn’t have much of. Obviously Urlacher’s return and the addition of Peppers will help that.
I think things are going to be fine offensively. Cutler is a good Qb, and at least will have some structure with Martz running things. People also make a big deal out of the OL, but Williams was good at LT last season, and the addition of Manemanuela (sp?) who is basically a third OT out there will help the OL.
The Bears could definitely do some damage. I think both the Vikings and Packers are farther along at this point but when it comes time to play our division games it seems like that can at times get thrown out the window.
by packallday555 on May 26, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, you guys are farther along then the Bears..........
Since the Bears have a new OC, DC, 6 new people on Defense, and 2 new people on offense……………….The Offense will take a little while, but we have the WR’S!! Don’t laugh, I’m not going all Martz and saying they will be the strength of the team………….But they will be a pleasant surprise I can promise you that………
by I love football! on May 26, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
The Bears need a serious overhaul IMO
With all these moves, even if you manage to make the playoffs, you won’t make it past MIN, GB, DAL etc.
Get rid of the coaching staff, get rid of the GM, and start from scratch. Give everyone a clear view of what you are trying to do, ‘cause at 7-9, two big free agent signings MAY barely get you into the playoffs, but you won’t go far. And with all those veterans, you’ll only decline from there.
So I say, strip the team down, swallow a couple of miserable seasons while you develop young talent, and start building for the future.
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin
by thewild_viking_twins on May 26, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I hear ya
They did go 7-9 with several injuries, but they also had a very easy schedule. Much like the Packers and Vikings did last year. We know that, we wouldn’t have gone 11-5 if we didn’t have such an easy schedule. The difference though, is how will our teams build off that. The Bears made some changes: overpaid an inconsistent but elite DE, signed ex Viking RB Chester Taylor, and released Alex Brown. They also hired Mike Martz. Keep in mind that he runs a very complex offense, so don’t be surprised if the offense doesn’t catch on right away.
As for the Packers, well, this season does worry me because I’m not sold on our pass rush. While I know we will stop the run, can we provide pressure on the QB. On the other hand, our crop of young players are all returning and have another season of experience.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
That's my big worry about Chi-town as well
Martz is a tough coach to grasp we all saw it at his last ball club. He needs an accurate thrower (Warner was) and I don’t think Cutler is quite on Warners accuracy level.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
Agreed
Cutlers more of a gunslinger
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin
by thewild_viking_twins on May 27, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
True, but Martz does love the deep throws and Cutler has throws a great deep ball. It’ll be interesting to see how things turn out with Martz. I think things will end up either being really good or really bad. Not so much anything in between.
by packallday555 on May 28, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
or any year for that matter
I suppose it depends on how the questions about them are answered. I have missed some of the hard hitting grudge match games between them.
Good bye Big Walt.
by Generzal Zod on May 26, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I put it in the 10-13 range
And I think that if they are healthy going into the playoffs, they have as good a chance as anyone of making a deep run. The offense will probably be electric, and the defense should be somewhere around middle of the league. There is the age of the secondary, but the line should be solid.
Since this includes playoff wins 13 wins
I am guessing about 12-4 for the regular season (should be good enough for NFC North division and first round bye). A trip to the NFC championship puts the Packers at 13 wins for the season—I do not see the Packers being able to keep Brees in control.
The Madden curse will do that for you ;)
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin
by thewild_viking_twins on May 24, 2010 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Something similar to last year with a playoff birth
Although I would hope we can get past the first round this time. The nice thing is that although there is still some great competition in the NFC, I feel like two of last year’s playoff teams (Philly and Arizona) might have taken a step back with their changes at QB.
My Prediction!
The Packers will be 12-4 or 13-3…NFC North Champs! Aaron Rodgers will be very dangerous with good O line protection. The Packers and the Saints will host the NFC Championship in a thriller like no other. Either in lambeau or New Orleans. It’s being predicted and I’m predicting it as well.
Greetings from a Saints Fan
I'm glad we have one of the tougher divisions in the NFL
I think the divisions that are tougher through the year help the team even if it hurts. We have to take one of the games with the Vikings to win the division. If we win the division I think we make it to the Championship game, Lambeau is a hard place to have to play in January, if we can clinch home field for the Championship game then we go to the Super Bowl. We have to go 13 – 3 for that, I think realistically we go 11 – 5 or 12 – 4.
Good bye Big Walt.
I think if we face your team at home we win, on the road you win
either way we’re both going to have a very good year.
Good bye Big Walt.
by Generzal Zod on May 25, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed!
I know we’re both going to have a helluva year. And if we play at Lambeau, I think ya’ll will have the upper hand. And if it’s at the Dome..still would be close thrilling game.
and congrats btw
you guys have waited a long time for that win and overall are a fan base that represents yourselves well.
Good bye Big Walt.
by Generzal Zod on May 25, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks and you guys do as well
It was a long time coming! And if Aaron Rodgers gets good protection this year? Look out!
Depends
Depends on how much the pass defense improves or doesn’t. Regardless, our offense will probably be one of the better ones in the league, especially with a full season of Finley, and an OL not riddled by injuries. If the pass defense can be at least average against good competition, I think we could win 11-13 games. If not, I think we’ll win 10-11.
Or defense had some flashes last year and some really awful games
If we can hold teams under 20 points a game we will be fine, if we can’t hold them under 30 it will be a long season.
Good bye Big Walt.
by Generzal Zod on May 26, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Look at the schedule
I am a Packer fan and have been for years but I am more than a little confused by how people are thinking this team wins more than 10 games. Granted trying to figure out how teams will do in 2010 by using their record in 2009 is sketchy but it’s really all there is to work with.
@ PHL—-Kolb’s first game so Packers should be able to win this one. 1-0
BUF—Packers should win this easy. Packers are a much better team.
@Chicago—packers should win but who knows. Cutler can’t be as bad as last year. 3-0
DET—-packers win although not as easily as in years past. 4-0
@WASH—-Packers are better and should win. 5-0
MIA—Packers should win 6-0
MINN—Packers still don’t match up well with Minn. 6-1
@NYJ—-maybe I’m buying the Jets hype but they look good in May. 6-2
DAL—packers never play well against DAL. Romo plays well in reg season. 6-3
@Minn—Packers play poorly in Minn every season. 6-4
Bye
@ATL—Packers skid continues against Matt Ryan and Co. 6-5
SF—I can argue this game either way but I will go with the Packers. 7-5
@DET—-Packers win. 8-5
@NE—NE doesn’t lose many at home. 8-6
NYG—-Based on last year Pack should win as Giants defense can’t stop GB. 9-6
CHI—-I don’t see the Packers being able to sweep the Bears this season. 9-7
I am looking for help here to understand where talk of a 12 or 13 win season is coming from. Did the offensive line suddenly get so much better because we drafted a starting LT for the 2012 season? The secondary is basically unchanged just a year older. The pass rush is not really improved so it mostly likely will be non-existent again. I would love to be more optimistic but looking at the schedule and what the team has done in the offseason I don’t think this is better than a 9 win team.
I think you'll be better than 9 wins
I’d say 10 at the very least
"Baseball is the only major sport that appears backward in a mirror" ~George Carlin
by thewild_viking_twins on May 26, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Where 10+ wins come from
The main games that I would see the Pack pulling out you have marked as loses are:
Minn. The Packers are a different team then when they first played the Vikings. They are healthier, more experienced, and have a bit more swagger. Add on top of that being much deeper at O-line, I’m much more optimistic.
Dallas. While Dallas does seem to have the Pack’s number they have typically struggled at Lambeau, which is where this year’s game will be.
@Atlanta. This will be a tough game, but I’m not a huge believer in the Falcons. I don’t think that they have the consistent pass rush needed to be more than a wild card team. I think the Packers can win this one, especially considering that they will be coming out of the bye.
Throw in a few long shots like @NE and @Minn. These are doubtful but do able. My thoughts on these games are kind of like how I see the Falcon game from their perspective. It’s a bit of an uphill climb, but winnable.
After those games a 12 win season is not that far off. Realistically the Pack should be around 10 or 11 wins with a playoff berth…maybe a NFC North championship.
by PackApologist on May 26, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
The offensive line was getting better towards the end of last year
And yes, Bulaga helps because even though I have no idea if or when he’ll pan out, even this season, he can’t possibly be worse than Colledge or Barbre.
by Charlie Kelly on May 26, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Fair post, you just have to keep some things in mind. Our OL actually should be better. Too start, both Clifton and Tauscher will be healthy and a year further removed from major knee surgery. Spitz coming back should help things out as well.
I hear ya with the secondary but right now I don’t think it will be that bad. Woodson hasn’t shown any signs of slowing down. Williams is perfectly capable of being a good #2, and a great #3. Who knows with Harris but if he can come back and even be a #3 or #4, it’ll help things out a lot. Lee’s also coming back from an injury, and Underwood will have another year of experience. You gotta keep in mind that last year we were playing with Bush as our nickel and Bell as our dime back. One guy has no business being on any NFL team, and the other guy was a FA who we signed off the street.
Another thing that could help us out is experience. It was our first year in the 3-4, which is a hard defense to transition too. It was pretty evident that we had a hard time communicating and making adjustments last year against better teams, and with another offseason we should improve in that aspect.
by packallday555 on May 26, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
As far as the competition goes, this year’s schedule looks much tougher. I guess I disagree with some of the losses you think we’ll have. We played well against Dallas last year, and actually beat them pretty bad. New England will be tough but their aging, and their defense wasn’t great last year. Not saying we’ll for sure win this one but I’d say we have a pretty good chance. You never know with the Bears either. I think they’ll be better but I thought that last season as well, so who really knows. I agree we don’t matchup well against the Vikes but even against them we have a fair chance. Keep in mind, both times we played them last year without Clifton and Tauscher.
I think the reason a lot of us see 10+ wins for us, is because of our offense. I mean even when we only had an average OL for the last 9 games of the season we were able to go 8-1, averaging nearly 30 points a game. It’s gonna be tough for teams to stop Rodgers, especially with the emergence of Finley.
by packallday555 on May 26, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Interesting ideas
I think it will be tough for Minnesota to sweep you again this year last year Brett pulled out the stops and your tackles were ineffective. I think you have a solid chance against Dallas and NE. You should also be able to beat the Falcons. I would however give you a mystery loss to one of the teams you think you can beat easily (it happens every season to every team) I think you’ll lose one to Detroit or maybe Miami.
It's a lot easier to love the Vikings when they win...
Miami is going to be REAL tough this year. I can’t see the Packers losing to the Lions. Vikings could though…they, for some crazy reason, seem to play down to their level many times. :-)
I think the Jets, Ravens, and Miami are going to be the new teams to beat replacing the Pats and Steelers in the AFC.
This is a subdued crowd today .
This team has a chance in every game . Tha aging O-line and CB’s willdetermine alot IMO . I stated beforethat DE,CB, & OT wre the holes to fill . I agreed with Bulaga he is a stud and with everyone else finding productive young DE’s it was a must . You chose a great future safety when CB was a bigger need . I stated that if GB moved up in the 2nd. it would hav produced a starting DE . McCarthy’s coaching will be key in the development of this season . You have the tool in all but 3 positions in my view . RB , CB , DE and another OT next year in the top 3 rds. . Playoffs will occur IMO . Not to be an ass but we would be comfortable playing you . Especially f injuries and legal troubles still exist for you .. Flash back there ! That’s what we’d be saying about my boys not so long ago . We have a better set up of the schedule as a whole than you . You get a better bye . And the cold games favor us . I’m still not convinced that Aaron does well in the cold but not many do . You live and die with those games as we don’6 .
Coaching , health , and Aaron’s two minute drill will be the difference between 10-13. If the team can make Brett a non factor in their minds the sky is the limit . You know my dark view . Both Lovie and McCarthy are on the hot seat ! This organization expects miracles and has a shorter fuse than their fans !!! If that’s possible LOL
Good post, although I don't feel McCarthy is on the hot seat
We had a need at both CB and S in the previous draft. Although a CB would have been nice, we got a steal at the S position. It was a case of drafting the best available player. On top of that, the secondary has different roles in the 3-4 compared to the 4-3. In the 4-3, the CB’s are more valuable and have more difficult tasks in man coverage. In the 3-4, the S has a ton more on his plate. There are more zone blitzes, which means the CB covers the sideline in zone, while the Safeties have to cover the majority of the field. I like Atari Bigby, but he’s a better fit at SS in the 4-3 defense. I ain’t gonna argue on our need for a CB though. We could use depth. It goes back to B.P.A. in the draft and returning players for us. Pat Lee did good in the very few games he did play, so will he finally be healthy for us? Underwood will return with a year of experience under his belt. Those 2 are battling for the #4 spot on the depth chart. When Al Harris returns, he’s #2 and our Top 3 are solidified with Woodson, Harris, and Williams. It is a risk with Harris too, but he’s better then who we could have gotten in the 3rd Round of the draft.
Could Aaron Rodgers improve in the 2 minute drill? Most definately, like any other QB. He struggled with that in 2008, but did very well in 2009. That’s a good sign, but you can always do better. Rodgers is great, but he still has plenty to improve on.
Now I have an assignment for you. Look back in the past several years at the teams losing the Conference Championship. How did they do the following year? I’m not worried about Minnesota this year. They will lose a little swagger, will have a tougher schedule, and I have a big feeling they are going to get hit with the injury bug.
As for Chicago, no question, Lovie Smith is gone after this season. You don’t pay a lazy and inconsistent DE an elite QB’s salary. That’s just common sense. He basically has to win the Superbowl or he’s gone. Playoffs just won’t cut it.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
by Jabooty on May 28, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't forget the nasty early bye
As much as I worry about the injury bug for the Packers, I would not be suprised to see a long list of injuries for the Vikings. There are going to be lots of physical games right in a row. That mixed with an early bye is not a good recipe for a team that is getting older along both lines and at the QB spot.
by PackApologist on May 28, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Hot seat
Lovie is on the hot seat, but McCarthy definitely is NOT on the hot seat… In fact I would say Childress is on the hot seat alot more than McCarthy! Childress tied his future to #4, so if #4 doesn’t return to play, childress still has to make the playoffs or he is looking for work! McCarthy will be in GB long after Childress is fired… IMO..
I think you'll go 11-5 and we'll take the division at 12-4...
which is no doubt a completely biased opinion born from hopeful optimism. Gothic made a solid point though, the Pack has a good chance to win each game. So much in this sport depends upon fortune and happenstance when you match so many comparably talented teams, but I don’t see you losing more than 6 or less than 3. This division is steadily becoming a more difficult proving ground, so whoever outlasts the others will surely at least make it to the NFCCG.
As for McCarthy, I haven’t seen any indication or know of any reason why he should be on the hot-seat. I think he’s a very good head-coach, possibly great but more time is needed. Despite the flak over Favre I have to believe that Packer fans realize they are in a good place and heading in the right direction. I think I would personally rather not be of that opinion, but I am.
you haven’t seen it because its not happening. McCarthy and TT are both on very solid ground right now. Despite some peoples hatred for them for what they did to Favre, they’ve rebuilt an old run down team into a young up and coming team loaded with good talent. Could they both improve? Most definitely. Are either on the hot seat? By no means.
Yeah, maybe in a couple years if nothing is getting done, then McCarthy would be on the hot seat
I prefer longevity at the Head Coach position. I feel McCarthy is a young coach and is progressing each year. Sometimes I question his playcalling, but considering he assembled an outstanding offense that puts up almost 30 points a game, there’s really nothing to complain about. He gets it done on the offensive side of the ball. He gave the whistle to Dom Capers on the defensive side of the ball. I’m confident with McCarthy at Head Coach. He needs to improve on discipline though.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
11 wins takes the division
Gotta a feeling we will be chasing you all year. Your schedule starts out easy. Ours starts out brutal…. Going to be fun I am sure!

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