News: Random Non-Packer NFL Reports
by Brandon on May 28, 2010 8:00 AM CDT
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PrintThe Green Bay Packers exciting news about changes on the board of directors just doesn't interest me, but there are some things going on around the NFL.
- The Raiders are so dumb. They want $9.55 million back from QB JaMarcus Russell. The guy wasn't worth a nickel, but they, released, him. You were stupid enough to draft him, and you're not getting your money back.
- The L.A. stadium project moves forward (complete with a mini-scandal involving the Mayor) which makes the likelihood the Vikings can squeeze a stadium deal out of the Minnesota legislature more likely.
- There is one last major unrestricted free agent on the horizon: the Rams FS O.J. Atogwe. They placed the franchise tag on him in 2009, but only tendered him a one-year contract this offseason which allows him to become unrestricted on June 1. If FS Antrel Rolle can grab a record deal from the Giants then some team is probably willing to sign Atogwe. Over at Turf Show Times they explain why he's worth the money.
- The Lions might sign free agent LB Keith Bulluck. He would make a lot of sense for them, but his health remains a concern.
Entering the Bears portions of the links...
- You remember how Mike Martz is crazy, right? Here he suggests that WR Devin Hester could play some at tight end next season.
- The Bears front office must have been channeling their inner Mike Martz when they asked QB Trent Green to come out of retirement. It would only have been an awful signing because he'll turn 40 in July, he hasn't played since 2008, and he retired because of multiple concussions.
- And this wallpaper sucks.
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wow...some real gems there.
The more I look at it…I am starting to love the Martz in Chicago thing. I think the guy is certifiably insane! Trent Green? Hester as a TE? Does this guy have a CLUE what he is doing?
OJ A
My interest in him is gone now. After drafting Burnett I think we need to just see what we have. He would have been a nice upgrade for us but not after drafting one fairly high. I wonder who would throw the big bucks at the top db of that terrible D…the Vikings?
exciting news about changes on the board of directors just doesn’t interest me
Agreed.
You were stupid enough to draft him, and you’re not getting your money back
Well, to be fair to the Raiders, everybody thought he was awesome when he was drafted. Also, the 2007 draft had more than its share of busts (cough, Justin Harrell, cough), so there’s plenty of teams that live in glass houses on this one. To try and get their money back is ridiculous, though, I’ll agree. They swung, they missed, they’re out. Go back to the dugout; don’t sit out there like a moron complaining to the umpire and yelling at the pitcher and catcher and so forth. Al Davis is just kinda’ throwing a tantrum. Don’t know how many times he’s going to try the “with cause” argument before he figures out that it doesn’t work. One thing Al Davis WILL do, though, is stop any and all payment of money that he still owes Jamarcus. He’ll just… not pay. He still owes Lane Kiffin $2 million, for instance. There was somebody else he did this to, too. I forget who it was, but… yeah. Like, “I’m not gonna’ pay that bastard one red cent!”
…Al Davis… what can you say?
You remember how Mike Martz is crazy, right?
Yep, always a good reminder. He’s usually crazy-good right up until he settles into just plain crazy. Let’s hope the journey is short.
Not everyone
I called for them to keep Randy Moss and draft Calvin Johnson. Although Johnson hasn’t been as good as I thought he would become, he’s not a bust by any means and is still good.
He was an idiot and lazy at LSU. His arm strength from one knee wasn’t enough to convince me he would suddenly become a franchise QB in the NFL. The Raiders are dumb for drafting him that high. There were plenty of question marks surrounding him.
I’m not say I’m perfect at recognizing college talent because I nailed it on him, because i thought Quinn would do alright in the NFL, but he was also a flop.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
QB prospects are so scrutinized that there’s always “lots of question marks.” But I remember the 2007 draft, and I remember that there was a pretty solid consensus out there that “boy, the Raiders could sure use Joe Thomas or Calvin Johnson (and who couldn’t?) but they just can’t pass on a talent like JaMarcus Russell.”
I mean, it’s the same thing as with Mandarich over Sanders. Obviously, everybody concedes the point in hind-sight, but, at the time, it was genuinely and legitimately a tough call.
Now, I don’t really actually care about this. I remember the debate from a “which of these guys that the Packers will never get is the best” perspective. But I do remember that Russell, Johnson and Thomas were the consensus 1-2-3 blue chip guys. We didn’t know the order in which they’d come off the board, but we all knew that they were going first.
by Curly Lambeau on May 28, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember alot of scouts saying they were sure that the Raiders would pick him #1 overall, but I also remember the vast majority of them saying they thought it was a mistake. He made his college reputation on ONE game, not a season or his college career, but ONE game… Scouts doubted his committment to the game, his abiltiy to handle the NFL game (other than his arm), his maturity, etc…
Sometimes the scouts know their stuff better than the GMs…its VERY rare though. This was certainly an instance.
Just because the scouts had Russell going to the raiders didn’t mean they thought he should, the Raiders just weren’t hiding their interest which made it pretty obvious. Imagine Moss and Calvin on each side…how would a team stop THAT twosome. Sick.
agree
Totally agree… Everyone knows the Raiders value thing way out of proportion to actual value. Speed at WR, to the point of overlooking the rest of the talent, or lack thereof (like DHB). And a big arm at QB, w/o having the intangibles necessary for QB.
Thats Al Davis… Problem is that Oakland doesn’t really have a GM! And if they do, he is rendered a eunich, due to Davis. My guess is most GM’s didn’t think much of Russell either!
Speed at WR, to the point of overlooking the rest of the talent, or lack thereof (like DHB). And a big arm at QB, w/o having the intangibles necessary for QB.
That is hitting the nail on Al Davis’ head, right there, Stroh.
Those two things go hand in hand with what Al has always been all about – since the days of ‘The Mad Bomber’, Daryl Lamonica – and that is the long passing game.
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The glass is more than half-full.
everyone?
Dude… JeMarcus Russell had BUST written all over him!!! Just cuz he had a big arm means little when it comes to being an NFL QB. Poor accuracy, poor work habits, overweight… THe list is LONG! I wouldn’t have drafted him it the 1st rd much less 1st overall! I thought Flynn was the better QB, he lead the same team to the Natl Championship and didn’t have a big arm, but he was a winner!!! Russell is a LOSER!!
by Strohman on May 28, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know if I would go that far
but the difference is: I knew who Matt Flynn was half way through the college season. I didn’t hear of Jamarcus Russell until after LSU’s bowl game against Notre Dame.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Atogwe at 29 would be a pricey but valid option for the future
The way I look at it, if he was that good on a bad defense, he’ll be better on a good one. I’d dump the oft-burned, overrated Harris if need be.
A question about NFL in LA
Is the NFL talking about expansion team at all, or is LA stuck trying to lure an existing team to move?
I hope they’re not thinking to expand… 32 teams is probably already too many
Wow, that screensaver is gayer than a bag of dicks.
by Charlie Kelly on May 28, 2010 4:54 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
i told them as much
(though slightly nicer) and they got their panties in a wad. :-D
reminded me of the movie Airplane!: “Say, Timmy, you ever watch gladiator movies?”
Airplane
of course three Wisconsin natives and Probable Packer fans, Jerry Zucker, David Zucker and Jim Abrahams wrote and directed it.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
couldn’t agree more. It’s gayer than 8 guys blowing 9 guys.
by Weldon on May 29, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol WCG is bear troll heaven
good idea, just didnt turn out right
He should be suspended. That is a flat-out, absolute disgrace to the umpiring profession, what this guy has been doing. West doesn’t care. -Hawk
Because he’s a f—-ing a—hole, that’s what he is. - Ozzie
Dear Editor ,
If you are going to cowardly erase my ever so opinionated comments with a backbone. Then please at least leave the colorful comments up from the gang . Unlike you I can handle the criticism . I am truely sorry that my predictions are so accurate . I am also sorry that my questions deflate all hopes of compting with my Vikes . If I were a Lions fan would it make it easier to accept the truth in my words .
Sorry if my deliberate but extremely awkward , for you , style is hard for most common fans to comprehend . I’m not referring to Pack fans in general for they are normal human beings like you and others . I though amnot a simple man nor a simple fan . That is why my little questions stab so deep . I’ve followed Packers history since before most your bloggers started teething . I despise hypocrite sites like this one at times . It is to simple to push the buttons of a common fan . The true fans Like Packad555 stepped past my rhetoric . Hell who even uses words like rhetoric any more . I use them to intimidate and defuse 90% of your fan base and you Sir . . You probably pride yourself in being common . Your not common though your a fanatic and in that lies your faults ! Stop blocking my opinions and surrender as those 53 boys of yours do to the purple men every year . Or at least this year again . I’m not going to say grow up troll , that is what fellas without a real love for their teams say because they can’t have an opinion with sustenance . Every time you block my attempt to stir a real Viking side of the issue . It is you that lacks sustenance . I feel sorry for this fledgling site as many on it show hope . Hope that after Brett rides off your team can mean something once more . I hope Brett fulfills his dream of going into the Hall as a hated Packer because that is what a fairytale carrer is about . Hate him ! Love him ! Deal with Gothicpurple up in your head . In a couple years that Aaron kid might start the cycle over again…. I can deal with it . Sorry you don’t have the same love of the game that Vike fans do .
Sadly that is the only thing Brett took with him when he left your battle field. Packer fans no longer lather up and howl even when they know there is no hope . Will you ever get it back ??? Only Brett knows that answer and if he isn’t there at thhe Hall as a Packer . You may never see those days again . The last memory of a storied franchise just may be Ole’ #4 Riding off to a Purple Sunset !…….Doc Gothic with Wisdom at his side signing off one last time .
Just out of curiosity, is somebody blocking his comments? I mean, if you are, it’s certainly fine with me, but I’m just wondering if he’s simply too incompetent to post correctly and is then blaming the man for getting him down.
I love the raving about how it’s everybody else’s fault for not understanding him. …quite the geinie in a bottle, he is. (Gotta’ rub him the right way) And we’re all just so dim that we’re unable to see past his words. HAHAH!! …hilarious. Like, “What?! This site’s blocking me too?? Ooo, I’ll show them! This isn’t over!” Reminds me of The Three Amigos when Mr. Flugelman is having wardrobe strip the clothes off the amigos, and Lucky Day says “Apparently you’ve misread who you’re dealing with here!”
by Curly Lambeau on May 29, 2010 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe if he knew what paragraphs were
I’m not gonna try to read that jumbled mess of incoherent ramblings.
by Charlie Kelly on May 29, 2010 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions
You did defect didn't you?
Ok Doctor let me break this down for you.
You have never impressed or intimidated me. This is the easiest thing you’ve written that can be read, and even it underwhelms me greatly. Your stats have been wrong, I mean just plain wrong. Like the time you said Rodgers was a pro bowl alternate. Or the time you you miscalucalted the records that he has had as a starter. You claim you ask questions no one responds to, but there many of us who meticulously answer all your questions. Even the Viking fans who post on this site disagree with you, tell you your wrong, or flat our call you a troll (see Grime and Purple Jesus).
If I’m reading the last paragraph write then you really are the worst kind of Packer fan, the kind who decided to leave with Brett. If that’s the case then more power to you, but I will say this: fans who follow a player and not a team are doomed for disappointment. In the contemporary sports would players come and go and take their talents with them, but the team keeps moving forward. Just because one player leaves shouldn’t shake your fandom with that team, and if it does well then check yourself off the band wagon cause you were never really that good of a fan in the first place.
If this is your last post then good bye and good luck. You’ve done a good job of stirring the pot and getting people to post replies, but your thoughts and comments have been off. I’m sorry to say it, and I don’t like dissing on people here, just ideas, but you’ve consistently been off on your stats, facts, and insights.
by PackApologist on May 29, 2010 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think you may take this too seriously
He should be suspended. That is a flat-out, absolute disgrace to the umpiring profession, what this guy has been doing. West doesn’t care. -Hawk
Because he’s a f—-ing a—hole, that’s what he is. - Ozzie
Dear gothicpurple
Yep, I did delete one of his comments in the previous thread about the Packers running backs because he wrote a comment about how great all the Vikings running backs are. I hadn’t mentioned anything about comparing them to the Vikings. We’re commenting about the Packers here. If I want to read about the Vikings, I’ll go to Daily Norseman.
I’ve shown patience with him but I’m sick of him.
[stands and applauds]
Good…I don’t mind him posting but honestly most of his stuff is off topic and wrong about 90% of the time. I am getting sick of it too…mostly because he doesn’t own up to when he is wrong. He ignores it and acts like he’s right. Annoying…straight up!
Haha yeah I’m with you. I can tolerate his posts, and actually am very entertained by many of his posts. It does get super annoying when he never posts anything pertaining to the topic on hand though.
by packallday555 on May 30, 2010 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry if my deliberate but extremely awkward , for you , style is hard for most common fans to comprehend .
LOL! That is great stuff man. Your deliberate IS extremely awkward for me.
“It is you that lacks sustenance”- How did he know you were hungry?
“I’ve followed Packers history since before most your bloggers started teething . " Wow, because you’re writing at an elementary school level right now.
I say let him keep posting, it’s embarrassing for him but hilarious for everyone else.
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