Packers Notes: Thomas Still Available, Quarless Overhyped, Brohm in Buffalo, and the Vikings Stadium Setback
by Brandon on May 7, 2010 8:00 AM CDT
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Print- I wrote about the release of LB Adalius Thomas over a week ago. He's still looking for a new job and Mike McCarthy hasn't ruled out the possibility. Thomas was one of the biggest free agents available three years ago, but that was three years ago. He can rush the passer (a little) but he's also been known as a versatile player. I'm not exactly sure what he can do at this point that LB Brandon Chillar or LB Brad Jones (I'm presuming they would be his main competition for playing time) can't do. I'm assuming he's still available because he's really not good anymore, or his agent is asking for way too much money.
- I'm not exactly aware of any hype surrounding a 5th round pick, but Wes Bunting wrote that TE Andrew Quarless won't live up to it.
- Back when QB Brian Brohm signed with the Bills in November, I expected he would be given an opportunity to compete for the starting job in Buffalo, and according to Chris Mortenson, it appears that's going to be the case. Though the QB JaMarcus Russell to the Bills rumors have already started to fly, and been taken apart by Buffalo Rumblings, I'd love to see Brohm get a chance. I can understand why the Raiders gave up on Russell, but why sign former Vikings RB Michael Bennett to take his roster spot? Couldn't the Raiders have found anyone more promising than Michael Bennett?
- Speaking of the Vikings, they put together a deal for a new stadium and the state legislature said no. The Vikings have been asking for a new stadium for a while yet somehow the stadium deal was put together "too hastily" and they didn't think to get the Governor on board with the idea. It seems like the Vikings blew it or weren't really trying. They might be waiting for the state budget woes to improve and for a new Governor. Does that mean they could move to LA if the city ever figures out a way to build a stadium themselves?
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I get Bunting's comment but...
I guess I’ll have a wait and see approach. I think Bunting is mostly looking at the past and now about the present to determine Quarless’ future. I’ve never talked to the guy, so I can’t say how much he “gets it” or not, but from what reports I’ve come across it sounds like this is a guy who has hit rock bottom and had to claw his way back from the abyss. Guys like that I will back until they prove they are not worth the effort.
As for the Vikings’ new stadium. I just keep thinking back to the bitter contentious debate over Lambeau almost a decade ago. Anyone else remember that? It was so close to failing, and it floors me that many Viking fans are dumbfounded that politicians are so hesitant about funding this sort of thing. If Brown County, WI can barely pass a funding measure that will keep a team that really is like family to that area, what is a population like the MN (or the Twin Cites) that is wishy washy going to do?
Wes Bunting is a moron
if he thinks Quarless is a hyped draft pick. Even more dubious was his decision to include Selvish Capers, a seventh round offensive lineman, on the list. If he manages to hold a roster spot for a year or more, he’s already doing more than expected, if he doesn’t, that’s what happens with seventh round picks. It’s not exactly a slow news cycle in the football world, so I don’t know why someone would throw around trash articles like that one.
by Jason Hirschhorn on May 7, 2010 10:18 AM CDT reply actions
+1
Players drafted in the first 2 rounds are the most hyped. You can find a solid contributor in the 3rd Round, but really it’s about whether they pan out or not. Usually, the later draft picks never last longer than a year or 2 as you mentioned. Wes is a dufus.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
We did get a steal in Brad Jones. Not many 7th round picks got more sacks than he did (I don't know if ANY other 7th round pick did this year...)
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on May 7, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh for sure, big steal for a 7th Round Pick
Jones will be around much longer than the average 7th round pick
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Disagreed.
The most hyped players are the ones that are “mock drafted” in the first three rounds but end up falling below their average mock spot because the real talent evaluators know better (for the most part).
My $0.02
When I retire, I want to have Ted Thompson's job!
You never know
He could be another Charles Woodsen. No one wanted him either. When players are in unhappy situations there play declines and when no one wants them the they are usually out to prove everyone wrong. I hope we pick him up.
A lot of people took issue with Bunting’s article overall, just look at the comments below it. How can anything less than a 1st rd draft pick be hyped or overhyped?
Another article that was posted on that site said how Ray Lewis didn’t understand all the Tebow hype. I guess I didn’t realize there was a lot of Tebow hype. I pretty much thought all the “experts” were saying that he wouldn’t be any good in the NFL as a QB.
They really wanted him to be though
I think he has people rooting for him.
Good bye Big Walt.
by Generzal Zod on May 7, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Is a 5th round pick who is really talented but never pans out is that news?
Quarless is talented, he could be a steal, or not.
Good bye Big Walt.
Isn't writing about a 5th round pick in general
Overhyping? I think he’s overhyping the overhype.
"You just don't know understand how frustrating this is"- Kevin Borseth
Commenting about who will pan out or not before they even play a down in a real game
Is idiotic and pointless.
by Charlie Kelly on May 7, 2010 1:51 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
quarless overhyped?
maybe they are referrring to his own self-absorption tatooed on the back of his arms “gods gift”
maybe that’s the hype he won’t live up too.
That was a misunderstanding by the media
It wasn’t anything egotistical by Quarless, instead he was referring to Gods Gifts. After all the frustration this caused, Quarless did in fact change his tatoo to “Gods Gifts.” He’s a Christian boy that had off field issues in the past. Nobody is perfect.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
lol
lawrence taylor needs a better lawyer———-you should apply.
Re: Thomas…To say that he wouldn’t provide anything more than a second year average starter is a little short sighted. First he provides a veteran angle that our two (now) second year players could really use. He provides 3-4 OLB experience. If he’s healthy, its very possible he rebounds to a nice year. He was NOT happy in NE, if he’s happy in GB i think he’s more productive. I think he brings a lot to the table beyond just his ability to bring more pass rush.
Re Quarless…I don’t see how someone can call a fifth round 2nd string TE hyped. Geez, he’s not even getting much press in GB aside from reports he showed up overweight. Whoever that guy is…he’s an idiot. And a big one too. Really reached for that prediction. I predict the guy drafted after him won’t live up to anything either…haha
I think Thomas would be more of a liability at this point
I dont want TT to sign someone just to say he got a Free Agent. I want him to sign a Free Agent that will help this team win. Our LB’s have experience in the 3-4 now, so it’s not like we are starting over. Thomas doesn’t have the elite pass rushing ability anymore. He’s done.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
I agree, I don’t think he brings anything to the table. In fact, where he went sideways in New England was he expected to be a pass rush specialist and the Patriots were thinking full-time OLB. So, you would have to assume he would want to be a pass rush specialist wherever he goes. At 270 pounds, I don’t think he is going to give you much in coverage. Thus, the defense tips its hand a bit when he comes onto the field because you know exactly what he is there to do.
Most of what I read says he was pretty bad last year and I do not see a line of teams beating down his door. I am not sure what type of veteran pressence he would add. I ahve never read anything about him being a leader. Another thing to consider, Capers was in New England while Thomas was there. I imagine then, TT has all the info he needs about Thomas. With the time that has elapsed since his release, I am guessing TT is not interested.
just because he doesn’t get a contract right away doesn’t mean teams don’t want him. Likely they are waiting for his price to come down which might take a while!!
I guess I still think he’d bring some good things to the team but only at a fair price. We are all entitled to our opinions! :-)
One thing
supposedly he wasn’t a great teammate, even when he was in Baltimore… if we bring in a vet i’d like to see a good locker room presence that would help Brad and Clay mature.
Why did you have to take a shot at Michael Bennett?
Is it just because he’s an ex-Viking running back?
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on May 7, 2010 4:18 PM CDT reply actions
Or it could be that he hasn't been relevant since 2002
And is 31 years old.
by Charlie Kelly on May 7, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
He was great in college
I was a big fan of Bennett in college at Wisconsin, but the guy is 31 years old and been with 3 NFL teams in the past 3 seasons (Chiefs, Bucs, Chargers). The guy is done. At least they could have taken a look at one of the many young players flying around to different rookie camps who are looking for a chance to play.
As a Packer fan in St Paul, MN
I am hopeful that the Vikings will be moving to LA. I swear, in 1996, there were cars everywhere over here with Packer flags. It would be nice to go back to that.
I viciously hate the Vikings.
I always loved that one.
As a pack fan in Rochester MN i agree
And i hope if the Vikes go to LA they reshuffle the divisions and give us STL.
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