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Bigby, Jolly, and Williams Remain Unsigned

On June 15th the Green Bay Packers can reduce the 2010 contract tendered to their unsigned restricted free agents: SS Atari Bigby, DE Johnny Jolly, and CB Tramon Williams. Greg Bedard has the exact numbers here. At this point, it hasn't cost them anything to wait. It could cost all three of them some money if they don't sign tonight. And the Packers don't have to reduce the contract offer, they might want to play nice with them, though it's been reported by Pro Football Talk that Bigby has received word that his offer will be reduced. Right now, it's hard to say whether the players (and their agents) or the team have made any mistakes. There will be more news on this over the next couple days. It could lead to some problems like they are having in San Diego and New England.

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Oh why do players have to be so greedy. I mean you offer me a few million a year or hell a couple hundred thousand a year i would do what you want with a big smile on my face. I think bigby besides money has the most to lose because burnett is taking all his first team snaps so the longer bigby sits out the more he is in trouble of lossing his job. I also think were in the most trouble if tramon doesnt sign because with out him our secondary is in big trouble espically if harris can’t come back right away because that bumps everybody up and that means jarret bush could be on the 1st team and no one wants that.

by Adam Tarasievich on Jun 15, 2010 5:42 AM CDT reply actions  

I guess its about perspective. I mean I agree with you…I’d be thrilled to be making the vet minimum right now! haha BUT they know what they CAN be making so they don’t want to settle for less. It would be like finding out a guy who does exactly what you do at your company and you find out he makes 10K more than you…you’d want that 10K too, right?

by TrevorR on Jun 15, 2010 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tramon has leverage, the other players don't

Tramon knows we need him and he wants a long term contract. Problem is, we don’t want to overpay him. Therefore, this is dragging. The other players….idk. Jolly is a fool. Bigby knows we lack depth, but he is jeopardizing his starting role.

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Jun 15, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bigby is only risking losing 50-100K. He will still make around 1.7 mil at the reduced rate due to his salary last year.

"I agree but dont agree"

by juggernaut400 on Jun 15, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bigby

But he stands to make even less after a season of sitting on the bench! He needs to be out there showing up the rookie. I think he’s just getting bad advice here.

by TrevorR on Jun 15, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

you offer me a few million a year or hell a couple hundred thousand a year i would do what you want with a big smile on my face

Yeah, but there’s a reason nobody’s offering anything to us. These players have a marketable skill. Think of it from their perspective: Somebody’s going to get that money. Why shouldn’t it be them? So, I think of it in terms of “what are they worth considering what they contribute and how many other teams would want them.”

Jolly already signed. Williams deserves about 1.5-2.5 million, I’d say. But he’s got leverage because the Packers don’t have much of a plan-B if they don’t sign him.

Bigby deserves a drastic pay cut. His play has really fallen off. He’s a liability in coverage and nothing special against the run. …very situational player at this point.

by Curly Lambeau on Jun 15, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am with you on all three fo them. I think Bigby feels he’s worth more though. Would have have been a normal FA if not for the agreement ending?

by TrevorR on Jun 15, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bigby

I think Bigby is very good vs the run!!! He’s in the right place and is a sure tackler… I would take him as a tackler over any other Safety we have… Agree he’s not great in coverage, but again he plays his responsibility. He’s not a playmaker by any means, but is assignment sure and a strong tackler! With the NFL becoming all about passing it puts a premium on coverage safeties, like Burnett.

Jolly signing eliminates one problem. Just need to get Williams and Bigby into camp!!

by Strohman on Jun 15, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Tramon is expecting big money, then don't do it

He’s alright, but he’s not great. I am not willing to overpay him. So honestly, I have no idea what the holdup with him is. Jolly should just be cut. Sorry, I know some disagree, but he should just be cut! What is Bigby doing?

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Jun 15, 2010 10:21 AM CDT reply actions  

myeh

More like: give him a one-year deal if his demands are unrealistic. Then develop other guys before next year so we can let him walk. But, as things stand right now, our defense sucks if he’s not on it. Period.

by Curly Lambeau on Jun 15, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think that is what they tried to do with the tender. he’s going to get 3.168M if he signs the tender. Sign it, show us whats up and then collect the dollahs as they fall from the sky.

by TrevorR on Jun 15, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

You’re right. He should jump at that tender. …as a long-term deal, in my opinion. But, if he really felt he was worth more, then come in on a one-year deal and prove it this season. To this point, he’s shown flashes, but not the consistency of an elite guy.

by Curly Lambeau on Jun 15, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Jolly will be earning $2.5 Million this year. If he is cut, no financial penalties will be accessed to the Packers.

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Jun 15, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

He finally wised up! Geez…he should be glad the team didn’t pull the tender out from under him!

by TrevorR on Jun 15, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

2.5 million

how many carton of cigarettes can he buy with that? for trading purposes of course.

by hermitcrab on Jun 15, 2010 6:32 PM CDT reply actions  

LOL

Cartons in Wisconsin or Colorado? Cartons in WI cost about what, $70 today? Cartons in CO cost $37. You do the math.

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Jun 16, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Has Williams really not signed yet? Let’s hope a holdout doesn’t happen..

by packallday555 on Jun 15, 2010 7:52 PM CDT reply actions  

I think evenutally tramon will sign we might get him a long term deal but i dont wanna overpay him as well. I think he has great potential to be the replacment for harris but we still need the next woodson. But on that note i dont wanna get my hopes up for this but i think we could trade to get assoumgha or how ever u spell his name.

by Adam Tarasievich on Jun 15, 2010 8:57 PM CDT reply actions  

trade

I have thought about that as well… CB is a hard position to draft for and alot of 1st rd picks don’t become Shut down CB… With Harris on the books for just this year, that would free up around 7M after this season! That 7M plus a couple extra Millions (say a 11 or 12M per salary) might be enough to lure him to GB! He and Woodson are pretty tight and Woodson would be able to talk him into coming to GB if he had doubts about it… Like you, I don’t want to get my hopes up, but its a possibilty after next year, IMO!!!

by Strohman on Jun 15, 2010 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nmandi Asomugha would be taking a pay cut at $7 a year salary

It’s worth a try though and it would be awesome to have him team up with Charles Woodson!!!!!!

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Jun 16, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Asomugha

Got a PREMIUM contract cuz he has been franchised multiple times and then got a short 3 yr deal (for 45M) at a premium to stay in Oak… He was far and away the best player on the team and Raiders couldn’t let him go, but paid DEARLY to keep him! If someone signs him to a long term contract, they’ll be able to get him somewhat cheaper! It’ll take a big signing bonus, but the yearly salary would be less… My guess he might take an 11 or 12M per year deal!

by Strohman on Jun 16, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

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