Packers News: Brandon Underwood Investigation; Johnny Jolly Signs But Not Tramon Williams or Atari Bigby

by Brandon on Jun 16, 2010 12:17 AM CDT in Green Bay Packers News

- Have you wondered what happened to the police investigation of CB Brandon Underwood? Nothing has happened in the last week since the police didn't recommend charges. It's possible nothing ever comes of it, but it will continue to hang out there for at least a while longer.

- UPDATE: Williams did sign his tender on Monday. While DE Johnny Jolly signed his tender last night, CB Tramon Williams and SS Atari Bigby did not. Now both are staring down a paycut. Bigby would only lose $50K, but Williams could lose $2.5 million. He's got an awful agent if he lets him lose that much money (or maybe his agent has a stubborn client). Hundreds of restricted free agents signed tendered contract offers, but Williams and Bigby are two of only a handful of RFAs who haven't. They've got no one to blame but themselves for this. It sucks for them that they weren't true unrestricted free agents, but that's not how it works right now. It's been known for months that teams have the leverage.

- Former Packer executive Andrew Brandt has written a number of good stories at the National Football Post about the current plight of the restricted free agent. He's going to write soon about collusion, something the union is already taking a look at according to Pro Football Talk. Will anything come of this or is it just something else to bring up during labor negotiations?

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Collusion

I wouldn’t doubt that there is collusion going on… In fact I would say that there is a strong possibility of it. Doesn’t matter though… Its extremely difficult to PROVE… Unless you have something in writing or on tape!

Its just like the case of the viqueens tampering w/ Favre!!! Everyone KNEW they were tampering, but there was no way to PROVE it… Maybe Goodell could re-open the investigation… With the way things have played out, it seems obvious to anyone w/ half a brain that it happened… Just like the collusion!!!

by Strohman on Jun 16, 2010 12:41 AM CDT reply actions

Maybe smarter than we think

“He’s got an awful agent if he lets him lose that much money (or maybe his agent has a stubborn client).”

Maybe not on both accounts. My understanding is by not signing Tramon could position himself to be a free agent at the end of the year, where he could more than make up for the loss of money this year.
Didn’t he and his agent force the Packers last year to give them more money by not signing that RFA contract?

by BubbaOne on Jun 16, 2010 8:09 AM CDT reply actions

Well I think he’d have to play out the upcoming season, not hold out. If he holds out, then the contract is pushed out another year. But yeah I think he’d a be a FA after this year if they don’t come up with a contract. They could also still franchise him or transition tag him at that point too if they wanted to keep him.

by TrevorR on Jun 16, 2010 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions

FA

T. Williams only becomes a FA IF, bit IF, the NFL gets a new labor deal worked out and the same old FA rules exist! Which granted is a strong possibility, but by no means a certainty. I don’t see Williams getting franchised, though, unless its for the purpose of trading him. THe franchise designation is up in the 12M range or more. Transition is more likely, also more dangerous!

by Strohman on Jun 16, 2010 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions

I am curious

to see this collusion article. I hope someone posts it when its up, sounds like some good drama!

by TrevorR on Jun 16, 2010 8:36 AM CDT reply actions

None of us really know what's going on behind closed doors

Maybe Tramon’s agent is stubborn, but is playing hardball. What if the agent is demanding big money that the team doesn’t want to offer? In the end, Tramon could be missing out on good money now, but may be compensated for it in the end. IDK. I truly don’t know what is happening behind the closed doors. Is it Tramon’s fault or the team’s? Tramon obviously has a reason for not signing the tender, so what is it? I’d hate to jump to conclusions without seeing all the facts.

I hope Tramon is resigned for a FAIR deal on both sides. Atari, well, for the right price. I’d like him re-signed for depth. Not too big of a deal as we have Burnett waiting in the wings. Atari is an ok Safety. I think Burnett can be ok in his rookie season and provide more upside in the end. Not too worried about Atari.

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Jun 16, 2010 11:51 AM CDT reply actions