Packers Minicamp Runs June 21 Through June 23
by Brandon on Jun 22, 2010 8:02 AM CDT
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PrintWhat does the minicamp mean to the Green Bay Packers? Mike McCarthy says it best:
You used to have the mini-camp historically where it was really the starting point of your offseason program. For us the last couple years it's been the ending point. And it's a testament to the players, their commitment of being here since March 15 and just the amount of work we've been able to get done.
The coaches are installing offensive and defensive schemes, and introducing new concepts. The players are in shorts with no pads, except for CB Charles Woodson who is wearing his knit cap no matter how hot it gets. Individual players can't really be evaluated.
Monday's practice was open to the public. According to the Press-Gazette, Tuesday is also open to the public while Wednesday is only open to the media. Then nothing for over a month until training camp begins.
Via Cheesehead TV is word that DE Cullen Jenkins practiced at outside linebacker. I've got no problem with him lining up outside on a four man line for an obvious passing down. But I don't want to see him drop back in coverage. I wouldn't expect he'd like it either: DE Aaron Kampman wasn't a fan of his move to outside LB.
There are 11 injured Packers sitting out minicamp, but according to JSOnline.com only CB Al Harris is unlikely to be ready for the start of training camp. Based on how slowly they brought LB Nick Barnett back last season, I don't expect to see Harris playing during the preseason. They might keep him on the PUP (physically unable to perform) list through training camp, even after the start of the regular season, so they could use his roster spot until he's ready. But it would mean he'd sit out the first six regular season games (which I can't imagine he'd be happy about).
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Interesting, we could see Jenkins as our 2nd pass rusher on obvious passing downs
I support this test. Put Jenkins on either the right side or left side with Clay Matthews on the opposite side. Rush 4. The 2 DT’s can be Raji and Neal. It’s worth a shot, it will give Jenkins a better chance to get more sacks, and will give Brad Jones a little competition as far as being a pass rusher in the Nickel Package.
In a way, it would be like utilizing Pete Carroll’s Elephant Scheme he used at USC. Clay Mathews can act as the RE, only standing up. He then can choose to rush inside or outside at ease. Cullen Jenkins can act as the LE. That will be a transition for him going to the opposite side of the line. Either that or we do the same thing but have Clay do it from the left side of the line. I think this is worth testing out on obvious passing downs.
This allows an open competition between Cullen Jenkins and Brad Jones to be that 2nd pass rusher we need. If Jenkins wins the battle, then he’ll be happy considering he’s getting sacks again.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Jenkins
I think your taking this too far… I expect it to be a VERY situational thing, not something they use on most passing downs! Sounds to me like its something they might use on a limited basis only, not a regular basis. Jenkins is still going to line up at DT on obvious passing downs. He is the best interior pass rusher they have and if you want to create a push or get pressure inside, Jenkins has to line up inside! Raji hasn’t shown that ability on a regular basis, he shown is glimpses of it only. Lets try not to read too much into something they’re really only experimenting w/ right now.
Look man
I’m just saying they can experiment with it. If the experiment looks to go anywhere, great. If not, then maintain with what we are already doing. I’m not taking it far at all. My job is really boring too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Geez… Take it easy. Just sounded like you already had big plans for Jenkins playing standing up alot! Sounds to me like we both think its just an experiment at this point.
And didn’t you notice that I only used one !!!!!! in the above post?!! LOL
i think
what jabooty was trying to point out is that it seems that whenever somebody expresses an opinion, stroh comes on an expresses his opinion asfact and tries to discredit the others opinion. it is annoying at times, especially since most of the information on this blog is lifted from other sites it can’t be passed off as your own.
you can’t say “this player looks good at mini-camp” unless you actually attend a few practices and see for yourself. otherwise you’re relying on second hand information or a 30 second video clip, which imo, is a small sample size to really say if it’s true or not. with that being said, maybe i’ll see some of you at practices in august so you can find out truly, who is doing what and who is playing where and who is excelling. let yourown eyes tell the story and let people form their own opinions without them being chastized.
opinions
Yeah I have opinions… And usually strong opinions! Big deal. Who doesn’t that keeps up w/ the Packers as much as we do?
So sorry for not saying “according to so and so…” every damn time I respond or have something to say!!! I live in AZ (since moving from GB 11 years ago) so if I happen to say something remotely like fact, its cuz I read it somewhere. I read as much as I can about the Packers and I express myself. I don’t care if you don’t like it, and you might as well get used to it!
BTW – It is a fact that Jenkins is our best interior pass rusher… He’s put up numbers as a DT pass rusher for years, even since he’s been moved to DE. Raji had one sack last year. Until anyone playing DT can put up 6 sacks as a DT like Jenkins did one year playing DT, then I would say he continues to be our best interior pass rusher!
Need to get something else off your chest?
It was a little misreading, that is all
We were in agreement, but he read it wrong the first time in what i was trying to get across.
i think we can all do a better job of respecting each others’ opinions. I’ll leave it at that so i don’t have to point any fingers.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Just asking
The last time I posted on here I got murdered. So I do this with a little fear in me. But I have two things that have been rolling in my mind for the past 3 weeks now, and it is driving me crazy. Number anyone hear anything on Westbrook. NFL network said about a month ago that he would be making a decision in the next week. We I guess that didn’t happen, but I also heard that GB is just about #1 on his list. 2nd thing that has been bothering me is the RB game that seems to be going on in the NFL. Seems to me that most teams are going to the 2 man RB team, is GB eventaully going to find themselves on the wrong side of this trend at some point in time. In fact the other day I heard that Washington actually has 3 good RB that the have in camp. Just wondering what others think about the 2 man RB team, and is it something that the Packers should be interested in doing.
RB
Westbrook might make the Packers his No. 1 choice, but I don’t think the Packers are interested in a 30+ yr old RB w/ MAJOR concussion problems from what I’ve read! IMO, the Packers have no intention is signing Westbrook… If he said something about signing then it was a ploy to drum up some interested team, which I don’t think their are any!!!
I don’t see the Packers going to RB by committee… Not sure why. Personally I don’t care either way. With the drafting of Starks, he could spell Grant some, but it depends how well Starks does in training camp. Wash, IMO, doesn’t have one good RB.. LOL Portis USED to be awesome but that was a couple years ago.
Remember when so many fans wanted Ladanian Tomlinson just a couple months ago
Just ask the Jets fans how LT is performing in just OTA’s. Him and Westbrook are way past their prime. It may be dissapointing, but it’s true. If you’re still not convinced, then just ask yourself, “Why aren’t the 31 other NFL teams interested in signing Brian Westbrook?”
The team has faith in Starks and Jackson. That’s probably why they are not targeting Westbrook. I’d be willing to take a chance on Westbrook to open up the competition in Preseason, but it would have to be for the right price though. I’m not sure what Westbrook’s salary demands are.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
You know what I find interesting. The Vikings lost Chester Taylor this offseason which left an opening for a pass catching, good blocking solid back to fill in behind AP. Their HC comes from Philly, yet Westbrook didn’t end up on the Vikings. I think that is a telling sign of where he is at right now. He’s either asking for too much money, is demanding a starting job or at least a chance to earn it, OR he’s just not looking good (concussions or just performance). the fact that Childress isn’t signing him up really looks bad for him in my book.
Personally, I don’t want to see him on our team just cause I think he NEEDS to be smart and hang it up. These concussions are NOT something to mess with. I don’t want to see him in green, lying unconscious on the ground.
Hmm interesting point Trev, especially because Chilly generally loves to sign Philly guys to the Vikings.
by packallday555 on Jun 24, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t really see Westbrook happening anymore. I haven’t heard anything regarding he himself in a while. I think after we drafted Starks in the 6th round we decided we were ok at Rb. I agree with you on having 2 Rb’s though. It does suck to see teams with two good Rb’s but at the same time we’re not really a running team at all. As much as I think Grant is just average, he’s been able to do what we need him to do in our offense. I’m hoping Starks can turn out to be a good 3rd down Rb, or at least an upgrade over Jackson but you never know.
by packallday555 on Jun 24, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
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