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The Packers season is here


Maybe I am a day early but there is nothing wrong with being a little anxious. Lets all pat ourselves on the back because we have made it to this point, and i know everyone else is just as excited as I am. I am curious to see what is going to happen with so many players at each position. If we could take a moment to make some (early) evaluations of the team and what people will expect this season. We've added quite a few pieces and I really hope things will fall into place this season.

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It all starts up front so with that respect we should begin our discussions there..

 

DEFENSIVE LINE

We are all aware of the Johnny Jolly situation and how losing him for the season could hurt us. I wouldnt say that its going to be devistating but depth at that position with a veteran like Jolly gone now is still going to be hard to replicate. The addition of second round pick Mike Neal and seventh round pick Cj Wilson should help mend that wound to some degree. With the previous debates we've all had its clear that the obvious answer for improvment is if the line can produce a better pass rush and penetration. Raji being moved inside to NT should be interesting to watch, and its been stated that when he was playing there, that the entire line has played better? I just dont know how to evaluate this with a NT being moved to DE and a relativly young but talented being put in the middle. So its a wash for me and dont really know what to expect.

OFFENSIVE LINE

This seems to be a major concern that I and alot of others have had. Adding Bryan Bulaga and Marshal Newhouse cant hurt us considering how bad the first 8 games were for this unit. But i think the real Improvment is bringing back Mark Tauscher and Chad Clifton to solidify some positions that were like others pointed out before "Musical Chairs". To me it seems like Clifton, Sitton, Wells, and Tauscher will have their spots back..There is nothing wrong with competition and there is nothing short of one there at LG...I'm sure everyone knows my opinion on Colledge after last year, but Jason Spitz will be in that battle for the first time and im interested in seeing what happens. I like the progress Lang has made along with some speculation about Breno. We certainly look to be in a better position than last year and I'm just glad that the Offensive front is a little more solid.

 

LINEBACKERS

This one is tough...Its obvious that we have a pretty good corp, but where can we look to see improvment? First of all its been talked about quite a bit with the LOLB position. Brad Jones in his second season and with the added weight should help him some. I'm like alot of people, not completly sold on him but I'm not scared when i see him on the field either so...On the Inside we've had conversations about A.J. Hawk and if he will start or what role he will play. I'm not so certain and i would like to see Chillar and Bishop get some time in there along with Aj...Nick Barnett is solid, I like him, LOVE the Intesity but sometimes makes mistakes, however he is clearly our best interior linebacker. Clay Mathews...Wow is all i have to say after last season, its been debated what kind of numbers he will put up this year due to him being our only legit pass rusher. I still see him making plays all over the field when he isnt getting after the quarterback... so i'm not particularly worried about him. Overall its pretty good but, we could definatly see a couple players step up this year.

 

BACKFIELD

I am hopeful to say the least...One thing that i would really like to see is the run game improve. I think thats a key in controling our destiny this season for a multitude of reasons. Begining with its going to help our defense out, and it will open up better PA opportunities down field. Not to mention that balance is alwase a good thing...Ryan Grant really needs to come through this year and Brandon Jackson knows his role and he can play it well...I really look to see what Starks can bring to the table...Maybe he is that guy we've needed to get our SCREEN GAME going again!!Remember that!? If we can move the ball on the ground its also going to neutralize alot of pass rushes, which is something that we could use...Now a real sleeper is lying in wait in my opinion...Who you might ask? Quinn Johnson... He can lay a hammer on anyone that steps in the path, obviously FB isnt the most exciting position to talk about but if he can open some holes for RG then we might be onto something...I'm not about to compare him to William Henderson but i'm looking forward to seeing what he can do...I'm optimistic about the backfield and look to see some improvement from last year..

 

SECONDARY

This one is interesting, Cant complain about the pick we made in Morgan Burnett but its still early and he hasnt put pads on yet. Nick Collins is still one of the best in leauge at FS, Atari Bigby is back and i really hope he can get back to really punishing guys like he did in the playoffs of 2007..Here is where it gets tricky, CB.....Charles Woodson DPOY on one side and Tramon Williams on the other...How long is Harris going to be out? What level will he play at? Are all things we've discussed but who else is there? Its a subject of a little more concern than one of potential in my opinon...Pat Lee has his opportunity in his hands this season and he needs to stay healthy...Underwood and Blackmon have potential from what i'm hearing from most of you. So I'm going to say i am hopeful yet concerned about this group.

 

RECIEVERS/ TE

Arguably one of the deepest corps in the league...There has been questions about how much longer Donald Driver will be on the team and who will be the #3 this year..Well the fact of the matter is, everyone is here and healthy...DD got both of his knee's cleaned up and is not expected to miss any time. Greg Jennings i believe will have outstanding year and make a case for the pro bowl. James Jones and Jordy Nelson, both are strong as it gets at the wide reciever position. I see Jordy taking the #3 spot, however I like James Jones and i've said before that he has desceptive speed...Ask Champ Bailey after the 2007 game in Denver, not hating on Champ but he clearly underestimated his speed or was still hurt...Either way its what he did after the catch is what i like...Jermichel Finley, probably my favorite upcoming player and i just hope he doesnt want a trillion dollars to resign when the time comes but for right now the guy has to be a huge concern for oposing defense's...In games we didnt look that great as a team...Finley excelled, Minnesota, and Arizona to be more specific...The depth behind him has been a hot topic and i see Lee still on the team and Quarless taking Havners spot...Havner is kinda a jack of all trades but i'm not sure if he makes it or not...This group i have no doubt will be top notch.

 

QUARTERBACK

Gotta say, I like the Grahm Harrell aquisition, but only for depth obviously..Aaron Rodgers is coming off last years roller coaster as a clear cut top QB in the league...My only concern is him holding on to the ball too long...I dont even want to mention last year's playoff finally...Ughh makes me sick but thats neither here nor there...I look for him to have another pro bowl year and go 4,200/33/8...ish

 

I will conclude this with saying that I hope for a 12-4 season with the possibilty of 13-3...I'm open for all opinions and welcome it, so please...

Poll
What will be the outcome of the regular season?
13-3 Winning the NFC North
17 votes
12-4 Winning the NFC North
33 votes
12-4 Making Wild Card
8 votes
11-5 Making Wild Card
12 votes
10-6 Falling short of the playoffs
1 votes
Something else?
2 votes

73 votes | Poll has closed

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i watched starks play for 3 years hes a great pass catcher and is very fast for a big man

by nfcnorth21 on Aug 1, 2010 12:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Linebackers

I am really curious as to who we are gonna line up opposite Matthews and I am really hoping that as much as I like Hawk I really feel the Chillar and Bishop both have made huge improvements over the last couple of years and would like to see what kind of intensity they can bring. I really feel that we have a chance to be major contenders this year and plenty to come in the future barring no injuries(knock on wood/hang up the horseshoe).

DREB

by Packer-fan-atic77 on Aug 2, 2010 2:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Chillar to OLB!!!...

I am thrilled about this move!!!!!!Chillar was suited to make good pass rushes considering his size and pass rushes…I like the move to OLB for him, Poppinga will have his work cut out for him, and now Desmond Bishop can get more burn at the ILB…Desmond Bishop is ready to get some play time and i cant be more thrilled about this move…Very Exciting

by SpaceGhost34 on Aug 2, 2010 10:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Hold your horses haha! From what I just read from Greg Bedard, Chillar moving to OLB was because of injuries and lack of depth at the OLB position.

I also read some great things about Bishop, only to then read an article expressing his frustrations about playing time. And honestly, it frustrates me too. I really hope this guy gets some playing time this season. He possesses athleticism that all our other ILB’s don’t necessarily have. He’s also shown some great potential these last 3 seasons. If he ends up being traded or signed away, without ever getting a real chance to play I’m going to be really upset.

by packallday555 on Aug 2, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea, its at bay...

But this is one thing that i’ve alwase had in mind…Why didnt they ever try Chillar at OLB…so now that they have considered it, I had to get hype…I’m still excited about this and I think we will see Chillar at OLB alot more often and should be…IMO

by SpaceGhost34 on Aug 2, 2010 11:15 PM CDT reply actions  

If Jones doesn’t provide a good enough pass rush, I bet we’ll see him there in passing situations. He’s got pretty good moves and is good in space. The only knock on him is he’s only 235 lbs. I’m not sure if he could do well enough against the run when facing a RT.

Honestly, he should probably start at ILB over Hawk. He’s much better in coverage, much better in space, and quicker from sideline to sideline. He probably isn’t as good as Hawk is inside the tackles though. I think we’d give a little against the run if he were to start over Hawk (or play more in a rotation) but at the same time, he’d help improve our coverage in the middle of the field, which was one of our biggest weaknesses last season. He really just seems to fit the scheme much better then Hawk does.

by packallday555 on Aug 3, 2010 4:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you comfortable

with Matthews playing on the strong side of the D. Chillar is not big enough to play LOLB over the TE. So anytime he lines up at OLB he has to be the ROLB and Matthews HAS to move over to LOLB! Are you comforable w/ that?

by Strohman on Aug 3, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure if it really matters

Unless the team is considering moving Clay around from the left to right side of the line. Last year he was just the ROLB, so if a TE was lined up on his side, Clay had to face him. I read somewhere (not enough into it though) that Capers was considering moving Clay around to make him primarily a weakside OLB, thus meaning wherever the TE is not lined up.

With that said and if that is the team’s intentions, then I expect this move of Chillar to be nothing more than to protect our depth. Like you and Pack said, Chillar is only 235 lbs, much much lighter than the average strongside OLB in the 3-4. This move could possibly be a way of exploring ways to improve our pass rush as well in our Nickel/Dime Packages. Not really sure. Does anyone else have clarification that Mathews will not just play on the right side, but be the primary weakside OLB, much like Demarcus Ware is for Dallas?

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Aug 3, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your getting a little in depth...

I understand what you mean…The idea that Chillar is moved to OLB is good for a number of reasons…Chillar can create a good pass rush…which is an improvment period…People should have to account for Clay and Chillar reguardless where they line up…thats the great thing about a 34, it doesnt matter where you line up…Jones will probly be the starter I know but i’m just saying…We had OUTSTANDING depth at ILB…Now we dont have to rely on Poppinga exclusivly…Bishop’s opportunity awaits…

by SpaceGhost34 on Aug 3, 2010 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not to mention...

It seems like people are really caught in the pass rush thing with Clay Mathews…Dont get me wrong, he is our best pass rusher outside…BUT how many big plays on Defense did you see where #52 was in the picture?? He is more than a pass rusher and can do things all over the field..

by SpaceGhost34 on Aug 3, 2010 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats the great thing about a 34, it doesnt matter where you line up

It does matter though, like Stroh pointed out above. Matthews will have to play the strong side more because he’s bigger, and probably better against the run in comparison to Chillar. That’s fine but it could also slow down his pass rush, having to go through a Te before trying to beat the OT he’s facing.

by packallday555 on Aug 3, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry, what i meant was...

That the pass rush can come from anywhere and that it doesnt matter where Clay lines up to make plays all over the field…I’m not talking about pass rushing in this reguard…just he is capable of making plays all over the field, reguardless of where they put him…But i agree that Mathews is going to have to play strong side in comparison to Chillar…

by SpaceGhost34 on Aug 4, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I read somewhere (not enough into it though) that Capers was considering moving Clay around to make him primarily a weakside OLB, thus meaning wherever the TE is not lined up

I think that’d be smart to do. That will obviously make it a bit easier for him to rush the passer, and see less chips from the Te.

by packallday555 on Aug 3, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

Chillar’s move to OLB then would really only come in the Nickel or Dime Packages, where he’d be asked to blitz. I seem to recall not too long ago where there was speculation that Cullen Jenkins would possibly have this role. So we now went from trying out Jenkins and Chillar in that role.

I would much rather have Brad Jones in the base 3-4 lined up against the TE. I heard he bulked up, but not sure how much weight he actually put on. He in my opinion is better for the Run D.

The only problem I see with having Chillar blitzing from the outside in the Nickel/Dime Packages, is he is our best coverage LB. Maybe that’s just an opinion, but for those that agree, how do you feel about taking him out of that role to blitz more instead?

"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi

by Jabooty on Aug 5, 2010 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

flexibility

I like the idea of Chillar playing some ROLB in nickel… It gives Capers alot of flexibility to bring which ever OLB he wants. Matthews is excellent even in coverage, and while our best pass rusher, he’ll be getting alot of attention at LOLB. Giving Chillar one on one opportunities, albeit against a LT. But I think they must see Chillar as a better option rushing than Jones… We’ll see how it plays out. It could be just an experiment since Jones was sidelined a little. But IMO, the flexibility would be the best reason for using Chillar as a OLB in nickel.

by Strohman on Aug 6, 2010 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Chillar

I see it a little differently gentlemen…IMO, Chillar wont be out Jones for a starting role or anything like that, but i think his athleticism can be use in the base OLB position a little better than in the Nickle…Like some have mentioned, he is one of our better coverage linebackers and should be used as so in most cases…I would like to see Jenkins being use at OLB on Nickle and Dime at the LOS and only there rushing the passer…

by SpaceGhost34 on Aug 6, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

it

would also make it quite easier for opposing teams offenses to know where clay will be lining up in every formation. which in turn, the offenses will have a plan to nullify him consistently.

by hermitcrab on Aug 6, 2010 5:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

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