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Preseason Preview: Packers at Seahawks

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It's not exactly clear who is going to play for the Green Bay Packers on Saturday night. According to the Press-Gazette, 18 players were held out from Thursday's practice. Of those 18, some have missed all of training camp (SS Atari Bigby, CB Al Harris, RB James Starks), some were hurt in the first preseason game (RB Kregg Lumpkin), and some veterans were just allowed to sit out (CB Charles Woodson and WR Donald Driver). The Journal-Sentinel reported that Driver and Woodson are certain to have the night off, but neither is injured.

Last week, I really wanted the first team defense to take another shot at stopping QB Jake Delhomme, but he came out after the opening TD drive. It's not important, but I'd still like to see them shut down the Seahawks first team offense as a matter of pride. One thing the first team defense does have to prove is that they can generate a pass rush without LB Clay Matthews (who's still recovering from a hamstring injury). Unfortunately the Seahawks have issues with pass protection, and might not be a good measure of the defense's effectiveness.

QB Aaron Rodgers should have another near perfect night. The Seahawks secondary had trouble holding up against QB Vince Young last week (who went 5 for 6 but did throw an INT). Their secondary is coming off a poor 2009 season, but I doubt they're doing much to disguise their coverage schemes in the preseason.

Here are some players I'll be watching:

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WR James Jones. I was really down on him at the start of the 2009 season, but he did finish the season strong. I expected WR Jordy Nelson would overtake him on the depth chart, but instead Jones looked great, grabbing hard to reach balls and getting open in the middle of the field. Will he have another strong game?

S Morgan Burnett. The rookie played like a rookie, taking some bad angles and missing tackles on a couple of big plays for the Browns. He has to show some improvement, or it's time to start asking whether S Derrick Martin or S Charlie Peprah are legitimate starting options until Bigby returns.

DE Mike Neal. He showed off some of his strength and created an inside push on passing downs during the first preseason game. Can he show an inside pass move that can register a QB sack? 

CB Brandon Underwood. He was picked on during the opening TD drive, but he played very well thereafter. He's certainly improved since this time last year. I'd just like to see that he truly deserves the nickel CB job.

LT Marshall Newhouse. I've been unimpressed with him. Right now I don't see how he makes the 53-man roster. RT Breno Giacomini is in a similar situation, but he looks good on most plays before he gets beat on one or two plays per game. It looks like Newhouse is getting beaten constantly.

A punt/kick returner who can hold onto the ball. CB Sam Shields might have a shot at becoming a gunner or a decent CB prospect, which could earn him a spot on the 53-man roster, but he dropped two returns in the first game. That might be excusable, but he's been struggling to hang onto the ball throughout the offseason and training camp practices. It's time to give someone else a chance.

Special teams return coverage. It's only been one game, and there are a lot of different players on special teams right now, but they looked awful. The special teams unit doesn't look any better than it did in 2009.

Nearly every other player who still has to earn a roster spot. There are several returning players who have to prove they deserve to keep their roster spot, and nearly 30 other players trying to take that spot away from them. I'm sure I haven't mentioned everyone who needs to have a big game at some point this preseason to earn a roster spot.

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If you guys got any questions we're here to answer em

Tho it’s the pre-season so really, what’s to ask? You guys should gobble up our D in great big chunks, tho it should play better than it did that series against the Titans (they just looked a beat slow on everything there). Pass rush isn’t exactly well set-up either.

The O-line has its strong points (the left side, and the center did ok), but the right side, both the RG and RT, are ripe for the picking.

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 21, 2010 3:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Any word on the Seahawks possibly bringing in Vincent Jackson at WR?

And should he be acquired, would he be the instant no.1 receiver over Houshmandzadeh?

My kingdom for a spellchecker. Or Devin Harris. Hopefully both.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 21, 2010 5:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

It seems pretty likely

The Chargers want out. VJax wants a bigger contract. Our FO has never been given to pause at big contracts under Paul Allen (well ok, there was the Big Walt holdouts, but if we throw money with the bucketfull at Branch, Shaun Alexander and Housh, you’d think we’d have something for Jackson). As long as the Chargers’ demands aren’t too steep (as in: not a 1st-rounder), I don’t see what could stop this deal.

But we’ll have to wait. He has a 3-game suspension to serve to open the season, so there’s no rush on negotiations. Which immediately answers your question: no, he wouldn’t be. Possibly he’d play a few snaps in the pre-season if we get him that fast but we’re opening without him was the WR1 no matter what happens

We could really use him too. Not that he’s the final piece to a championship-caliber team but we’re currently about 4 deep in WR2s. We need a WR1. For the future, too.

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 21, 2010 6:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

He is

In football years that is. Kinda like dog years!

Expectations don't produce!

by 2manyears on Aug 21, 2010 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

WSJ said the game was on NFL Network

is that the one I don’t have access to with Charter? If so, that’s garbage. I’m sure I can find a stream, but watching fuzzy players on a laptop screen<<watching on a big HDTV, especially with friends over.
On a more on-topic note, Go Pack!! I’m looking forward to seeing how the defense does.

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by MadisonWino on Aug 21, 2010 11:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Jones

I hope James Jones keeps rocking it. I’ve been talking against him but ultimately I really want everything to click for him this year.

by TrevorR on Aug 21, 2010 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

DOn’t know if you’ve seen this or not. But its what I’ve been trying to tell you for what… THe past year!

http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20100820/PKR01/100820135/Jones-holds-his-own-in-talented-receiving-corps

Like I’ve been saying Nelson and Jones could start for alot of teams in the NFL!!!

by Strohman on Aug 21, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I remember reading in two different articles that a scout for a unnamed NFC team said both Jones and Nelson could be starters on nearly any other team in the NFL. It didn’t surprise me to be honest. Both of them always take advantage of their very limited opportunities (in that link you posted it said Jones was only targeted on 63 of 553 passes.)

by packallday555 on Aug 21, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heres another article

about the Packers plethora of talented recievers.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/101130344.html

Sounds to me like Jones and Nelson are earning every opportunity the Packers can get them, there just aren’t alot when your the 4th option is the passing game.

by Strohman on Aug 21, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

one word to decribe the Offensive skill positions...

DANGEROUS!!! I like Finleys attitude in the first article. “We can score when we want” yeah it might be a little cocky or its full of a confident unit! And I will go with the latter of the two seeing how the depth and talent is all there for them to do it.

by bizzle4 on Aug 21, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

cocky...

is kinda his mantra, but I don’t mind cause I think he’s going to back it up!

by TrevorR on Aug 22, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

The D...

I was reading an article in my local paper today, Kenosha News, and they had a article on the D. In which it was saying to not expect much of the D this game either. Unlike last season with the D being completely new and not knowing anything outside of practice time the article was saying how Capers wants to hide all the blitz packages until the regular season. Is it a good thing or not? IMO yea its a good idea to not show anything it is only preseason. Look at the NY game they said there were 26 team’s scouts attending that game. So it is important to not show too much this early since these games dont really matter. However, I do believe it is a great way to get the confidence of the players up and get ready to rock in the regular season.

Hopefully we can see the DL come up with some pressure on its own that would be a huge plus even if its against a subpar OL. Another thing I am looking/ hoping is that Capers will aleast try is to pressure the WRs. With so many question marks after woodson and tramon I would like to see the secondary step it up and play to earn their spots on the field not just in practice.

by bizzle4 on Aug 21, 2010 3:19 PM CDT reply actions  

I read something like that also… Capers had to show most of his stuff in preseason last year to get the D ready for the regular season! This year its just the opposite… They know everything by now and don’t have to show any changes from last year. IMO, its far more important to keep his wrinkles under wraps this season! I have confidence that Capers has quite a few tricks up his sleeve for the regular season, not to mention some secret weapon stuff for Minn in particular!

If I were Capers I would put the CB in almost exclusive press coverage this game. THey played alot of soft zone in the Cleve game. Give them a basic man coverage all game, so they don’t really learn anything, but Capers can get the young CB plenty of experience vs other teams WR in man coverage. Just my thoughts…

by Strohman on Aug 21, 2010 4:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Neal
Can [Neal] show an inside pass move that can register a QB sack?

I would say that he doesn’t have to reguster a sack, just generate one.
It doesn’t have to be Neal that gets the sack; if another player gets one, and the reason he gets it is because Neal’s push prevents the quarterback from having any room to step up in the pocket, then that is just as good, I think.
And, if he can generate one now, but not register one yet, well, he’s a rookie, and should only get better.

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The glass is way more than half-full.

by NorthStarr on Aug 21, 2010 7:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Good point. I was pretty impressed with Neal in our last preseason game. Hopefully he has another good performance.

by packallday555 on Aug 21, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

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