Packers Game Ball: Green Bay Crushes The Bills 34-7
There were some minor struggles in the 2nd quarter, but otherwise the Green Bay Packers owned the Bills in almost every aspect. I have a suspicion that this game ball is going to go overwhelming to last week's winner.
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Does anyone know if Chicago is for real?
I’m living with a Bears fan, and all he talks about is how legit the Bears are this year, but I’m pretty convinced they’re still terrible. My instincts are that the Cowboys are terrible and they got lucky against another bad team (Detriot).
Peppers and Urlacher have revived the defense and Cutler is showing much better control as a quarterback and not a thrower
but hes running from the pocket on every play. Clay Matthews should have a good day.
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Hard to judge
They get lucky against Detroit and the Cowgirls have serious issues on offense but a good defense so the 27 they put up today can’t be dismissed. I think they will eventually fade away but that might just be hope talking.
The Bears started similarly last year
they started 3-1, and ended up finishing 7-9.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
Wow? Biased?
The Bears got off on technicality against the Lions, but the Bears turned the ball over 4 times in the red zone that game as well. The problem wasn’t the offense…
.. It was the turnovers.
Today, against the Cowboys, we moved the football at will after the first quarter. Martz figured out the defense (BLITZ 7) and then capitalized. When they went to a zone blitz in the second half, Martz moved the pocket and we made some big throws.
The defense played solid BOTH games.
THey are playing well.
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 19, 2010 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
wow biased?
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Defense played well both games,
And you guys still should be 1-1.
If the refs make the correct call in Week 1, Bears lose 20-19.
The Packers overcame two turnovers in a tough environment in Philadelphia in Week 1, and still won 27-20. You’ll see how good the Packers are next Monday night.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 19, 2010 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
there was still time left after that "TD" by megatron
the bears have serious capability and they showed it today. Dallas is a good team, regardless of their record, but I do see the Pack winning next Monday. Props to the bears for being just as far ahead of MN as we are, but I think they are still a little to turnover prone to beat a defense like ours.
Completely agree.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 20, 2010 6:40 AM CDT up reply actions
'Wowed' by Packers bias
on a PACKERS page?
Wow! Must be a Bares fan. lol.
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The glass is way,, way, way more than half-full.
If the offense makes the turnovers, they ARE the problem.
Turning the ball over in the red zone is on the offense. The defense let the Lion’s second string qb move the ball pretty well, but did look better against the Cowboys.
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"You ain't a beauty, but hey you're alright. And that's alright with me" - The Boss
Duh Bears should not have won that game against The Lions
But we can argue that all day. The Bears will fold when they play against a more formidable team. The Cowpies are really overrated and it showed with their terrible game today. As BlackOutSOx said (Good to see ya from SSS, by the way)… Cutler will be the Claymaker’s chewtoy come next week.
When life gives ya lemons, shut up and eat your damn lemons.
Anybody else find it convenient...
That the Cowgirls game isn’t scheduled in December? If you need proof Jerry’s got pull, there it is.
The Cowboys were preseason favorites!?
How is that not a formidable team?
I guess I would be crazy if I was to suggest that the Packers got a break from not seeing a "full game of no. 7 (Vick) in week one?
That’s because I wouldn’t. Packers look good and won the game.
Why hate and discredit the games we won?
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 19, 2010 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably because nearly every sports fan thinks the call against the Lions was wrong.
Cowboys could very likely be 0-3 next week after their game in Houston. I know they were technically preseason favorites, but after two games (and maybe three), opinions of them can (and should) change.
I watched part of the Cowboys game today. Dallas was in an utter state of disarray. It was Dallas shooting themselves in the foot over and over.
Now we are not trying to discredit the wins you guys have gotten. But refusing to change your mind about the quality of your opponents will probably cause some kind of backlash here.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 19, 2010 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions
The rule was clear of what a catch was, so how is that questionable. Now, should that rule be changed? Absolutely!
But, don’t discredit the offense without seeing how that game was played. Cutler threw for almost 400 yds that week and the offense was in the red zone 4 times (one was on the 25) and turned the ball over.
The offensive line is offensinve— I can admit that. But, the offense itself works and works well. THe defense has done well both weeks as well.
To say that the Cowboys with a payroll that is greater than the Bucs and the Browns combined is a weak opponent TWO weeks into the season is flawed and a slight at what the Bears did in Dallas today.
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 19, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
How is it a slight?
When a team is overrated, as I think Dallas is, it diminishes Dallas, not Chicago.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 19, 2010 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
That's your opinion.
But, to discredit the win when anyone can see that the Cowboys have PLENTY of talent and Vegas had the bears as 9 pt underdogs at one point— is a slight!
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 19, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
So slighting Dallas = slighting Chicago?
You must be thicker than I thought.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 19, 2010 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
*sigh* sarcastic insults... smh... why?
Obviously, the conversation is a bit much for you because you go to the insults when we’re just discussing a game you OBVIOUSLY didn’t watch.
Again, I think the rule needs to be changed, but that doesn’t have anything to do with my original statement that the Bears are 2-0 and have beat the teams that they have been paired against.
The Packers barely escaped the return of Mike VIck and beat the 2011 1st pick of the draft Bills— Hats off to the Packers.
Why discredit the Bears it it isn’t just for the fact you are hating?
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 19, 2010 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Biased a bit?
A Bears fan upset about shots on a Packers blog?
So, how much did the Bears beat the Lions by? There is no doubt they are improved, but they barely beat Detroit.
Dallas, I’m not sold on them. I don’t think they’re as good as all the hype, and that’s what I’m trying to tell you.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 19, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Not upset at all.
In fact, I expect it.
I just thought I’d add some substantive comments to the post.
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 19, 2010 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
No one's discrediting the Bears here.
Not even me.
I just don’t think the Cowboys are worth all the hype. This in no way takes away from going to Dallas and winning.
Dallas may be the toughest place to play in the NFL. Will be a great game on Monday night, that we know for sure.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 19, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Curious.
Which game did I “obviously not watch”?
If you’re referring to today’s game against Dallas, you may want to think about eating your words. I flipped back and forth to that game throughout the first half.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 19, 2010 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, yeah, Cutler threw for almost 400 yards,
But he still needed the refs to bail him out.
Also, how many tries did the Bears have from the one-yard line? Four? And they failed to score?
You’re making it sound like you pounded the Lions. Let’s be honest.
You won only because of a faulty call by the officials!
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 19, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
beg to differ
I think the call was spot on. It’s the rule that’s messed up. I thought the same thing last year when Jennings was robbed of a TD against Chicago. He’s got 2 feet down and he’s out the back of the end zone when the ball is stripped. Why on earth is that NOT a TD?
by gern blanston on Sep 19, 2010 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Excellent point.
The call was right, it’s the rule that needs to be changed.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 19, 2010 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Someone said that above this post (i.e.-- ME!)
… HENCE— why I thought your response was a “slight”.
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 20, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Never heard the term "the process" until last week
What constitutes “the process” seems highly arbitrary/subjective. That was a catch and everyone who saw it knows it. In the long run Detroit can take solace in the higher draft pick they will get because of that call, because it won’t have playoff implications for the Lions. The Bears, likely yes, the Lions, almost certainly no. They certainly seemed to have improved, but not to playoff level yet. Not with Stafford hurt.
by I voted for Kodos on Sep 19, 2010 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude, neither of us have truly played against good teams yet
Yes, Chicago got lucky in beating Detroit. Yes, they did almost put up 400 yards against Detroit. However, who doesn’t? They have one of the worst secondaries in the NFL.
Dallas is kind of puzzling. They were way out of sync in Preseason. Clearly out of sync against Washington. And apparently they didn’t play well against Chicago (didn’t watch this game). They have only been good on paper up to this point, because the results on the field have proven otherwise.
I can’t say that GB has played against quality opponents either though. So we’ll find out just how promising our teams are next week. Based upon when I watched Chicago against Detroit, I was not impressed. The Lions are the Lions. They are simply that bad, and the Bears had to bring luck into beating them. Good for them though, they can have a little luck, because all that matters is getting the W. We’ll see who the better team is after this next weekend.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
I can respect that argument
View my comments.
Good game against the Bills today. THe Pack’s defense looked strong! Great secondary!
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 19, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know
I would say that Philly is a quality opponent, especially with Vick at the helm. They may not be cream of the crop, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see them challenge for a WC down the stretch.
by PackApologist on Sep 19, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Who exactly was quarterbacking that late rally?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 19, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah but it's not like they lack talent either
Best is a beast and a playmaker, mix him with Megatron and there is a pretty good combination there.
by PackApologist on Sep 19, 2010 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Detroit never moved the ball in the 2nd Half
Shaun Hill was awful!!!!!!! I think with Hill having time to prepare against Philly though he was better prepared. Stafford is still a much better QB though.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Credit the defenes as well for stopping Jahvid Best in the 2nd half
… Something the Eagles couldn’t do yesterday.
Not to mention the defense shut down the 3-headed monster IN Dallas.
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 20, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
The damage was done when Kolb was in the game.
The Pack was up by two scores before Vick stepped in. He almost led a comeback and the defense held the Pack to just a couple of FGs after words.
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 20, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Uh, the Packers scored two touchdowns after Vick came in.
Nice try slighting Green Bay. From someone who complains about people slighting the Bears, you seem to have no problem slighting the Packers.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 20, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Correct me if I'm wrong...
The score was 13-3 in the beginning of the 2nd half. If my knowledge of scoring in the NFL, that would be a two score lead? Vick’s first series was the beginning of the 2nd half, no?
The first series of the second half was a 3 and out and then the Pack scored on their first series of the half making it a 20-3 game, right?
The end score was 27-20 and I see that I erred on when the two scores were made, but nevertheless…
… Vick almost led a comeback on the Packers and the game could have been TOTALLY different if perhaps he was in from the first series of the game.
I’m CERTAINLY not slighting the Pack as I think they are the cream of the crop in the NFC North right now. However, I’m just saying that Kolb was not gameday ready on Sunday and that can be looked at as the Packers taking advantage of a 1st year starter.
I don’t…
… But, it’s a legitimate argument.
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 21, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions
You also said:
He almost led a comeback and the defense held the Pack to just a couple of FGs after words
this was just false. I guess we read two scores as touchdowns…I think you were trying to make it sound like more than it was which is why we read it wrong. You were right there, it was two scores, but it was only a 10 point lead when Vick came in…that is not a huge lead.
Vick came in down by 10, did nothing, then was down by 17. Suddenly it clicked. If Vick was in all game the Packers would have had a completely different gameplan for the game. They planned for Kolb and heck they were killing him. He IS game ready, he was last year when he came in, the Packers just shut him down with a great gameplan and execution. No one was questioning Kolb before the game started, most people thougt he’d pick up right where McNabb left off. But yes, Vick did almost lead them back…he’s a crazy dynamic guy who if you don’t plan for him right, can single handedly beat a team.
HE won 1 game in last season?
There was no telling what you were going to get from Kolb. Only one who believed in Kolb was Andy Reid.
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 22, 2010 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
hmmm might want to get your facts straight. We went into halftime up 13-3. In the second half they outscored us 17-14. It was a nice try but you were just plain old wrong there. We had ONE field goal all game and it was right at the end of the first half.
Look above.
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 21, 2010 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I’ll say you guys look much improved since last year and am excited to play you in MNF. saying it wasn’t the offense it was the turnovers doesn’t make sense to me but your D is playing well and you O seems to be improving a lot.
Cutler had 372 yds and two TDs. He threw one pick early in the contest that reminded everyone of old Cutler, but he played well behind a very poor offensive line.
Matt Forte was player of the week for his effort and the receivers looked pretty good considering they are all very “green” behind the ears.
Thanks for recognizing the improvement.
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 19, 2010 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I would flag this if it fit into a category.
The Bears are an improved team. But the fact is I’m not sold on Dallas. Doesn’t diminish the fact that Chicago went into Dallas and won. Heck of a job.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 19, 2010 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
They do look better
I don’t think anyone can argue the Bears don’t look better. How much better is the question though….
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Solid argument
But to suggest that the Packers is the “barometer” of How much better is a bit weak considering the Packers haven’t played a “barometer” team just yet either.
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PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 19, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Very true.
But with all the change in the NFL, what defines a “barometer” these days?
It’s a tossup after two weeks in the season.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 19, 2010 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Saints?
They are the champs and look to be “the team to beat”.
But, again, it’s week two…
… it’s too early to write off any team— including the Cowboys.
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 19, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Look.
Stop.
I am not writing off the Cowboys at all. They are going to be a tough team to play all year.
I just don’t think they’re as good as everyone says they are. Not sure how that “discredits” the Bears, or “writes off” Dallas.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 19, 2010 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
It’s too early to really judge any team Packers… Bears… Cowboys.
I will go out on a limb and say that the Cowboys have looked pretty lifeless in both their wins but that’s not to discredit the Bears who did show me a lot this week. (Mostly that Cutler can get through a game without throwing a pick)
I was a little down on the Bears mindset (cough, cough Lance Briggs) acting all high and mighty about beating the cowerdly Lions last week, but going into Dallas (a place the Packers haven’t won in a good long while) on their opening weekend and coming out with a W is something.
Either way all this talk will be nothing after next Monday
It's funny...
All this talk about the viqueens making the Super Bowl in the preseason, but people are forgetting something. The game is being played in Dallas. Can anybody tell me the last time bert farve won a game in Dallas, TX?
by mike_o on Sep 20, 2010 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good point!
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 20, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions
They'd better not make the Super Bowl then...
I’d hate to see them drop to 0-5 All-time.
Maybe Koa Misi and Jared Odrick would be Patriots if Bill Parcells wasn't Comedic.Sans's father...
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 24, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough
Packers defense looks tough. The secondary is what impresses me the most. Makes getting to the QB very easy for Matthews and Co.
Look forward to MNF!
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 20, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Not sure yet.
He pulled a hammy and the medical staff have not released anything as of yet.
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 20, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
The cowboys look TERRIBLE so far. Their Oline is in shambles. Romo is NOT on. They aren’t running the ball. That said, its still a nice win for the Bears and I am sure it was a confidence booster after being GIVEN a win by a terrible rule/call.
I didn’t buy into the cowboys hype. I thought they were overrated last year and they didn’t do much to improve their team in the off season (except for Dez Bryant). I think they are going to disappoint a LOT of people.
When aren't the Cowboys overhyped?
Every year it seems ESPN predicts them to go to the Superbowl. What a joke. Just kind of shows how intelligent some of their analysts are.
There was a post on the Eagles site showing the age of the Cowboys OL and giving a good prediction in a sharp decline. I was convinced, remember how poorly our OL played early on last year (It was a similar comparison). Thus making me predict Washington to win the NFC East (which I got some crap for). So far WA is 2-0, but it’s still early though.
PS- I know I’m still the only man on the planet that thinks Miles Austin is overrated. haha. I don’t care. He is in my opinion.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
2010 Cowboys OL = Vikings 2010 = Packers 2008= Bears 2007
It seems to be a growing trend of teams looking to add weapons, but overlooking their offensive lines importance.
The Cowboys haven’t invested in their offensive line in two years and now they are old and they are in need of some retooling.
The offensive line wasn’t too bad, but they certainly caused Romo to have some errant throws.
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PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 20, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
It's true
I don’t remember GB getting too much hype in 08’ though. We were going with a new QB in Rodgers. I think a lot of analysts predicted a division win for the Pack, but nothing more.
There was an article I read over the Offseason on the Eagles site. It was on the Cowboys OL, you may be able to pull it up in their archive. Very interesting and informative. It was indicating that Dallas may have a sharp decline in OL play this year. You may be interested in reading it. Good luck finding it though.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
+1
I’m not sure what to make of them. They looked AWFUL in pre-season. they had a couple good breaks againts Detroit to win that game. I watched them go for it on 4th and goal to be stopped short and thought “What the heck is that????”
Then again, Dallas has looked like they need some kind of medication. They are not on the same page at all. Was it a good, convincing win? I didn’t watch enough to have an opinion. Given the preseason hype of Dallas, I’m lead to believe they have a good team. Yet they sure haven’t delivered.
by gern blanston on Sep 19, 2010 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Dallas looked awful in preseason
The fact they got the hype was because of name recognition only.
Chicago vs Dallas
Does this remind anyone else of when Chicago beat Pittsburgh last year? Their victory over the Steelers was thought to be a solid and huge win early in the year. However, the Steelers struggled without Polamalu for most of the year (including the game against Chicago). Now the Bears got a big win over Dallas (while Dallas continues to struggle). How big was it?
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
But, why slight "a win"?
It’s a win, right?
You go over on WindyCity Gridiron and no one is slighting the Packers two victories to the QB troubled Eagles (in week one, Kolb was confused for the first 18 minutes and the Pack capitalized and pulled off a victory in the end) or the hapless Bills.
Why is our two victories being questioned?
I bet you the Packers coaching staff is not ’overlooking" the fact that they have shown some great consistencies in the passing game and defense.
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 20, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
It is a Win
Just as I mentioned in a pervious reply on this threat, all that matters is getting the W.
It’s too early in the season to really get too much of anything. I wouldn’t count Minnesota out just yet. They are still a good team and their D for a change is not the problem. It’s only a matter of time before their offense gets rolling again. The Lions are the Lions. Until they actually have a winning record, they are mediocre at best. The Bills are terrible, but we killed them like we should have.
I think what it boils down to is how Chicago is winning their games. Their OL is awful. Much worse than the Packers. I did not watch the game against Dallas though, so I don’t know what happened there. I just know that Dallas also has a very bad OL. You’re going to have a hard time convincing me that Dallas is a Superbowl contender because I didn’t even predict them to win the NFC East before the season began. They do have talent though.
All in all, the Packers and Bears both really weren’t contested yet. We won @ Philly, which is difficult to do. You won @ Dallas, which is difficult to do. We both played very bad teams. We killed the Bills. You beat the Lions. i think it’s the fact that you had to do it on luck, which is why the Bears are not getting the respect you want. I wouldn’t worry too much though, because none of us Packer fans are taking you guys lightly. We simply don’t know what to make of you.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Vikes' offense to get rolling again?
Not as long as their ancient QB has little protection and no one to throw to. Still, I wouldn’t be surprised for the Pack to lose to them in MN.
I recognize ChicagoMarine’s comments were directed at Jabooty. My question was more along the lines of “did they look solid in all phases of the game? If not, what looked good? What looked bad?”
If the Bears looked solid all the way around, then my anxiety goes up quite a bit. Still it’s Bears week and as we know, anything can happen in this series. I’m looking forward to a good, physical game.
I’d say Urlacher feels he has something to prove and will be dangerous. Still our line is in much better shape than Chicago’s is. I’m hoping CM3 has another HUGE game.
by gern blanston on Sep 20, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough, but...
… Behind that “awful” OL you are describing, Cutler has shined!
He threw for 372 in week 1 and 277 yesterday. He has 5 TDs and 1 INT even though the two teams he has faced have sacked him 5 times and pressured him countless other times.
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by ChicagoMarine on Sep 20, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
I saw that against Detroit
That is a concern of mine. Cutler is very athletic. The only difference is Detroit and Dallas normally have their pressure coming from the weak side. Green Bay does it on the strong side, thus getting into his face. Not sure if that has any relevance or not, but it is an adjustment he will have to make. Our ILB’s will have to be on their toes with keeping an eye on Cutler. He, like Rodgers, has the ability to run.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Brett Favre channeled a vintage 2005 performance today
So far Favre and the offense have wasted two great efforts from the defense this season.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
Your sig quote is...truncated slightly
“Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you walk into an open sewer and die.”
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
And how about Morgan Burnett getting his first interception?
He should get better as the year goes along.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
Somebody said this last week...
And I think we WILL have two different players win League Defensive MVP in a row. Mathews is a Beast.
Should we be worried about the poor running game ? Hate to gripe when we did so well (especially defensively)
Also, two game in a row and Shields has been decent, even good? If we get Harris back, I think we will have a nice nickle and dime package!
yeah it was you!
tip of the hat I think it’s going to happen! I haven’t seen a Packer player dominate on Defense like this since Reggie White. I think he’s more impactful than maybe Woodson? Gosh, maybe that’s overboard but he’s in the conversation with Chuck.
Was thinking earlier today
We maybe haven’t seen any linebacker look this dominant since Lawrence Taylor.
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The glass is way,, way, way more than half-full.
Best Packer's linebacker since...
Dare I say it – Nitschke?
When I read that
I honestly expected a light to come down from the heavens and a chorus of simple townsfolk to sing “Raymond Nitschke!”, a la “Randolph Scott” in ‘Blazing Saddles’.
Sometimes, my imagination is too visual, I think.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Please trade Hawk..NOW..
Anyone else tired of watching #50 get washed
out on the rush, take shitty angles and miss tackles?
Trade him for something before the deadline….
Uhhhh...
Hawk didn’t play that poorly today. In fact he applied pressure to flush the QB out of the pocket on one of Matthews sacks.
I can see this sort of venom for a Packers player after a loss, but for cripes sake we won 34-7 and the defense played well overall.
Save the rants for the bad games. I’m sure I’ll be joining you in ganging up on Hawk at some point this season, but the man had a decent game.
"But we all know that games aren't played on paper...they are played by little men inside our TV sets." --Kenny Mayne
by dishingoutdimes on Sep 19, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Actually, he did play pretty poorly. He is brutal as a blitzer, and is too slow sideline to sideline. I was actually about to comment and ask why Hawk was a nomination, and secondly why two people actually voted for him. Chillar is much better then he is, and I hope he takes over for him this coming week.
by packallday555 on Sep 19, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Not a rant
I want the best 11 on defense even in the base..Hawk is NOT one of them.
I’d just like to see something from this bum after 4+ years and how many millions of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Time to give someone else (D. Bishop if/when healthy).
Look
Hawk isn’t great. We all know that. However, he is still one of our better run stoppers. He DOESN’T miss tackles. He doesn’t make many, if any, impact plays. However, he doesn’t make a lot of mistakes either against the run. Against the pass though, yes, he’s a liability. I would much rather have Hawk in the base 3-4 over Chillar. Bishop is injured right now, and even when he’s healthy, we just don’t know what we have in him given his inconsistency. Hawk is the safe route at this point.
With that said though, I am up for trading Hawk. We do have good depth at the ILB position. The dropoff from Hawk to Bishop isn’t that significant. Bishop will make more mistakes, but he will also have more impact plays. It’s a give and take. For now, we stick with Hawk until we trade him….if we trade him.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
He’s a pretty sure tackler but what good is that if he isn’t fast enough to get in position for the tackle? Either he’s just too slow or he’s not instinctive enough. Seems to me the only time he makes a tackle is when teams run right up the middle at him. We need a guy who can do more then just stop the wrongs in the middle of the field.
Chillar may not be as stout against the run but I’m fine with that because he can cover more ground the Hawk (sideline to sideline), he’s WAY better in coverage then Hawk, and he’s a much better blitzer (everyone knows how much Capers loves to stunt our ILB’s).
There’s no excuse for Hawk to be a starter anymore. His play just doesn’t and hasn’t warranted it.
by packallday555 on Sep 20, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Bulaga
He was in for Clifton, I didn’t notice when he started playing though. I hope we just leave him in all year. Never should have wasted the money on Clifton anyways.
If bugala remains the starter we are overpaying clifton to backup Tausch and Bugala
but it is a real nice security blanket
Apparently they pulled Clifton in the 2nd quarter.
i didn’t notice until after half-time. I did notice that Clifton got beat a few times early, but I thought I got his legs under him when the pressure stopped. Turns out he had been benched.
it’ll be interesting to see what they do. You’ve got to keep Clifton around. Bulaga will probably struggle at some point and if Clifton gets healthy he’d be a great guy to bring back in when that happens, and quite frankly, while I like that Bulaga got a look today, I’d rather he just play sporadically this year while he adjusts to the pro game.
BCB free since 8/24/10 and happier for it.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 19, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, it’d be nice if he could be “groomed” a bit before he gets thrown into the starting role. Though, this is two games now that Clifton has looked questionable. Maybe he just doesn’t have it anymore, though I have seen McCarthy mention that his knee has been bothering him.
by packallday555 on Sep 19, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
the guys calling this game
totally missed Cliffy going out & NEVER commented
on the change til Bully got called for a penalty..they sucked…
I noticed that too
Anyone know why the change was made? I’d like to see a link on it.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Wow, read that as "when"
as for the “why”, MM said that Clifton looked like he wasn’t healthy.
Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"
Having a hard time deciding the MVP of this game
It could be Rodgers, who had a crappy first half (thanks to Jones) and came back and only missed 2 out of 13 passes and ran for about as many yards as B-Jax, or Clay Matthews with 3 sacks out of the Packers’ 6. I’m confused just who to vote for there but the Pack played a good game, and I was close…. but I gave BUF to much credit when I said they’d score 10 to the Pack’s 34.
When life gives ya lemons, shut up and eat your damn lemons.
could've had a goose egg
Haha. The only reason I predicted 34-0, instead of 34-7, at the top of the open game thread, was because I wanted to be able to say that I called it if they got the shutout. :)
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The glass is way,, way, way more than half-full.
Brandon "Action" Jackson
I told the Bills fan we watched the game with that I was impressed with their run defense. But considering it was Jackson’s first time as premier ball carrier, I think he’ll grow into it.
I half jokingly said Mathews is the best OLB since Lawrence Taylor
Am I jacking up my expectations to high? I can’t think of too many better OLBs right now…
Yeah he's great...
…by the way, Clay is the first Packer in history to have 3 sacks in back to back games.
I think he likes his move over to the right side.
You mean his move to the left side.
But otherwise good point.
by Jason Hirschhorn on Sep 19, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Back to back 3 sack games going into the bear game,
He may be able to inprove on 3 sacks. The Bears line is real week. I wouldn’t be suprised if Clay ends up being credited with 3 1/2 sacks. I thought he was hanging on as I believe it was Jenkins that finished him off.
Guy is a MONSTER!
He was unstoppable today.
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Sep 19, 2010 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Re: Sig:
Gosh, I hope that prediction ends up being true. I can’t stand the Patriots.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 19, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Where are you from?
There are lots of Patriots fans near me, and although many of them are nice and willing to talk football, most of them feel entitled to winning every year.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 19, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Happened last season too...
New York is no longer Tom Brady’s playground.
Maybe Koa Misi and Jared Odrick would be Patriots if Bill Parcells wasn't Comedic.Sans's father...
"I looked at BN once. I got banned." -the immortal words of JShufelt
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 24, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
LT had longevity on his side
Let’s wait until Matthews has at least 19 games under his belt before going that nuts…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I justsaid the same thing above,
before I read your statement. lol.
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The glass is way,, way, way more than half-full.
Nine sacks through two games...
that will also make our pass D all the better.
We are playing real good football on D right now
The film this week will tell teams to try to run the ball down our throats.
But we’re playing the Bears in Martz’s offense, so that probably won’t happen right away.
Hawk’s not gonna see the field much next week I bet.
BCB free since 8/24/10 and happier for it.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 19, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, those counter plays the Bills kept running were giving us fits. Seems like we can good good push up the middle pretty consistently. We just don’t ever get very good outside contain, so anytime Lynch or Jackson bounced it out we were pretty much screwed.
by packallday555 on Sep 19, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Burnett played much better this week
Like the hit he put on Parish on the interception and I noticed him going and making plays in run support
yea
It will take him a few weeks to get confident and moving around making plays. At this rate, if he keeps improving, Bigby may come back as a reserve.
"But we all know that games aren't played on paper...they are played by little men inside our TV sets." --Kenny Mayne
by dishingoutdimes on Sep 19, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t mind it. I think Burnett is already better then Bigby is in coverage, which is what we really need.
Your signature is great by the way. Gotta love Kenny Mayne.
by packallday555 on Sep 19, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed
Bigby wasn’t great in coverage. Yet he’s the STRONG safety. he’s supposed to be a physical presence like up in the box for say an 8 man front. He’s not nearly on Bigby’s level as far as that goes.
Don’t get me wrong. I’m not a hater at all. I think he’s got great potential. Let’s just please be careful when blowing smoke up his rear.
by gern blanston on Sep 19, 2010 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
So SS
Could be a Barnett/Hawk position where one player is a better tackler and the other a more pass defense oriented player
This is a more pass driven league now
I’m confident the Front 7 can and will get it done. When Bigby returns, I would like him to play in the Base 3-4, but I want Burnett in the Nickel and Dime Packages. Bigby is not that good in defending the pass.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
You won’t get an argument from me on Bigby being better in run support, he clearly is. I just would rather have the guy better in coverage. Our scheme doesn’t really designate a strong or free safety. It seems like last year, we used Collins as kind of a roamer, and stuck Bigby back deep. That trend seems to have continued with Burnett, which is why I think he’s a better choice as a starter.
by packallday555 on Sep 20, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Fun game but..
The Packers offense wasn’t really in synch but still the team put up 34 points thanks to good all around play. The special teams continue to be more than solid which is a pleasant surprise.
Fans should temper their Clay enthusiasm. Cushing got busted, they were in school together and Mathews conditioning took him from a nobody to a Pro Bowl quality player. Logic suggests the kid has a good chance of being busted for using.
Sorry. Just gotta point out the obvious.
Doubtful
He has passed three tests. Plus wasn’t the allegation on Cushing that he was using while he was home in NJ? Plus lots of NFL players on that USC team they were on. Only one has been busted for PED’s.
He had a disorder all right.
Total DOUCHE Disorder!
I have no respect for Cushing. Not in college, and certainly not now.
Maybe Koa Misi and Jared Odrick would be Patriots if Bill Parcells wasn't Comedic.Sans's father...
"I looked at BN once. I got banned." -the immortal words of JShufelt
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 24, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you feel that way about Malaluga too? I don’t get the whole Matthews is using aspect. The reality is, he came into college weighing like 170 pounds. He was a late bloomer. I’m sure you, and many others have had friends who were the smaller kids growing up, and then all of the sudden get very big as they hit puberty later. I know I have. I just don’t understand why it’s so far fetched too think that Matthews being a late bloomer compounded by him being a VERY hard worker has led to him becoming a physical specimen and very good football player.
by packallday555 on Sep 19, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I bet it has to with his genes...
Look at his relatives Bruce Mathews, his dad Clay Mathews, Jr. Physically, he’s right there with those guys. He’s genetically cut to be a warrior.
I'm not an athlete...
… but the fall after my 18th birthday I was 6’3" and 140lbs. By the time i was 24 I weighed a still relatively lean 225lbs without ever lifting a weight. It does happen that people mature late relative to others, but most people like that screen out of football long before their size develops. Given Matthews family history and high effort style, it’s kind of easy to see why he would have stuck in the sport in spite of his lack of size.
BCB free since 8/24/10 and happier for it.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 19, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow.
Pretty cowardly attack without any evidence. I don’t know what he did at USC, but unless you know something I don’t, he’s apparently passed every test he’s taken in the NFL. Doesn’t stop people from making baseless accusations, I guess. If he tests positive, then you can rip him all you like. Til then, you should probably either sign your real name to a comment like that or just shut up.
BCB free since 8/24/10 and happier for it.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 19, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I would assume they all do it.
I think pretty much all of them do it, the guys you love and the guys you hate. The incentives and rewards for doping are the same for any pro sport, including football.
Look at pro bicycle racing. They have tests. A few sacrificial lambs flunk, but later, it comes out when the doctors are busted or bags left behind that whole teams are doping. Baseball, track same deal. Some people still defend Bonds by saying he never failed a test for steroids.
Why would the NFL crack down on juicing in any serious way? It’s too good for business.
by uglyfatpimplynerd on Sep 20, 2010 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions
cycling
has cleaned itself up considerably in the last few years. Those guys are the most tested people on the planet. I’m pretty sure they test for EVERYTHING, too. The days of entire teams doping is long gone. There’s simply too much scrutiny on it. Sure you’ll have guys that attempt to stay ahead of the curve with the drug regimen versus the testing.
Heck they even have several off season unscheduled tests. Michael Rasmussen was banned for two years and kicked of Rabobank while leading the Tour a few years back without testing positive once. He simply didn’t accurately account for his off season whereabouts. It came out after that he was juicing, but…. I digress, this is a football blog. My apolgies, all.
by gern blanston on Sep 20, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Okay,
I could try pointing out the fact that Clay Matthews has passed every test he’s taken, but I get the feeling that I shouldn’t confuse you with the facts.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 19, 2010 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Can you trust the tests?
The NFL isn’t exactly a neutral party in testing. It’s against their interest to expose popular players or make themselves look like a league of cheaters.
by uglyfatpimplynerd on Sep 20, 2010 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Went to the game today
All I can say is I LOVE CLAY MATHEWS! Witnessing a 3 sack performance was an amazing experience!!!!!!!!!!!
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Follow up
Look, I don’t WANT that to happen. But it was staring baseball fans in the face and I know all the Giants fans said any such suggestions were outrageous.
And I voiced a CONCERN. Not an accusation. I sincerely hope the dude is clean as a whistle.
But forgive me for being concerned given what we learned from baseball.
The problem with that comparison is....
… that in the MLB there was no testing program. We knew performance enhancing substances were being used because you could see them in the lockers of ballplayers, and when asked about them, they didn’t deny their use. I’m talking about Andro and Creatine, which at the time were legal substances, and not steroids. We also knew, based on the admissions of some retired players, that steroid use was widespread in baseball. We knew that the union was fighting testing and we knew that many players were coming from foreign countries where steroids were and are readily available, even moreso than they are in the US (and that’s saying something). And we knew that many of these players were entering the minor leagues without ever having been subjected to programs that were (at least nominally) subject to NCAA supervision and regulation.
Baseball in the 80’s and 90’s was the wild west when it came to PEDs. The NFL banned and began testing for steroids over a decade before the MLB did. Baseball fans moan about how their sport gets a bad rap (and I love baseball), but they got that reputation because the league was deliberately looking the other way, which was the opposite to the approach taken by the NFL (starting in the 90’s at least). In short, you could look at Bonds and Mac and others, see how their bodies had ballooned, and because of the culture of the sport and the complete lack of regulation AND their own admitted use of legal PEDs, and conclude that they might be using.
The other problem with that comparison is that Matthews grown happened between the ages of 18 and 23, which statistically is still a period where significant growth happens in humans. Bonds got big in his late 20’s and early 30’s, when that kind of growth, absent a disease or the use of substances, is highly unlikely.
In short, it’s not remotely the same situation. And given the fact that Matthews is apparently passing his tests (as far as we know, because the NFL certainly sat on the Cushing story for a while, didn’t they?), i think it’s unfair to make the assumption or to suggest that he’s using, or that he ever has. If he fails a test, then the story changes dramatically, of course.
BCB free since 8/24/10 and happier for it.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 19, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You mean...
…heads aren’t supposed to grow to the size of big halloween pumpkins when you are in your mid 30s?
Ted one slight disagreement..
True the NFL doesn’t test for Steroids, but isn’t it true that is doesn’t test for HGH? It’s prohibited but not tested for…
My guess is (don’t get mad at me), I bet at least half the players in the NFL are juicing. It’s so competitive and there are so many millions to be made that…
I know it’s innocent till proven guilty but, my sixth sense tells me it’s going on….
I think that is true about HGH...
… but I also think it’s because there hasn’t been a test for it until recently, and the one that exists now requires multiple blood tests over the course of several days, since HGH naturally exists in the body and thus you have to look for a spike, rather than only the presence of the substance. Obviously the players aren’t crazy about that idea and I don’t really blame them.
But yeah, you’re right about HGH.
BCB free since 8/24/10 and happier for it.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 19, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
talked to an ex NFLer
on a flight a while back. he said you could tell who was juicing by the type of injuries they sustain. The one that stuck out for me (at the time) was Bawoh Jue’s groin injury. The types of injuries are the ones where the muscle gets too strong in comparison to the ligament or the tendon. So, you have pulls and sprains/strains happening.
Is CM3’s hamstring in that category? Lord I hope not. He’s got such a great bloodline that he could just be a late bloomer. I know plenty of people that grew after high school and during college. It’s certainly not out of the realm of possibility.
by gern blanston on Sep 19, 2010 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Baseball fans moan about how their sport gets a bad rap (and I love baseball), but they got that reputation because the league was deliberately looking the other way, which was the opposite to the approach taken by the NFL (starting in the 90’s at least).
And they looked the other way because PEDs were what resurrected interest in the game after the strike-shortened 1994 season. Sosa and McGwire swatting 450 foot bombs every night in ‘98 was the story they needed. It was the hook that brought dollars back to the league. That it turned into such a publicity nightmare later could be foreseen, and in fact they’ve handled things better on the backlash side in terms of business than I ever thought they could. People still care about baseball, and they may care more so now that they can be reasonably sure that not everyone is juicing.
The NFL went about things differently – they quietly discussed the issue, decided it was a problem and took immediate and positive steps to end the issue. They pursue their agenda aggressively and it is clear to everyone from the GM on down that PED use will not be tolerated. They also didn’t need PEDs to resurrect their image because they never tarnished it by having an ugly labor dispute in the first place. There’s a lesson for 2011 there.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
PEDs and juiced balls
And they looked the other way because PEDs were what resurrected interest in the game after the strike-shortened 1994 season. Sosa and McGwire swatting 450 foot bombs every night in ‘98 was the story they needed. It was the hook that brought dollars back to the league.
I fully believe all of that, plus, I will always believe that they also juiced the ball!
Why do I believe that so strongly?
Because, it would have been a blatantly stupid business decision not to.
Even the MLB owners aren’t that stupid!
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The glass is way,, way, way more than half-full.
Re-read my original post
And now understand that is more pointed than I intended.
I will temper my wording in the future
Brandon
Didn’t mean to start a kerfuffle.
My apologies
OK guys - you can start throwing the tomatoes now... :/
Think we should sit him if Detroit wins next week?
No
You aren’t going to win the games you need to with TJack and if Favre is sitting he is not getting more in sync with the offense remember that Favre really didn’t start doing a whole lot for you guys till the last second of the San Fran game in week 3.
Ha - good luck with that,
if he doesn’t want to be sat!
Chilly sure doesn’t have the stones to force the issue.
And, if he did, Bertt would prob’ly have the ultimate meltdown, and retire right there on the spot! lol.
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The glass is way,, way, way more than half-full.
Nobody has mentioned this...
…we beat the subject to death last week. But didn’t Marshawn Lynch look pretty damn impressive against us at times? Nobody has mentioned this so I thought I would add a little fuel to the fire.
I think he would terrific addition to our offensive arsenal.
agreed
not at all sure why they actually started #23 today as opposed to Spiller. Was it an “in your face Green Bay”? Was it an audition to get the trade bait up? After seeing BJ’s abysmal performance, I’d be willing to give up a 3rd for Lynch at this point because we have NO ONE that can run with the ball. Granted, we don’t know what the rushin’ Russian can do….but he was on the practice squad for a reason.
Buffalo has a crappy OLine. Their 3 headed monster at half back looked mostly pretty good against a pretty good run D. Think how good Lynch could do with a 1/2 way decent line and the threat of a good QB?
by gern blanston on Sep 19, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
yea the Rushin' russian was on the practice squad in Atlanta...
But did you see what their 3rd string RB did this week? damn
+1
That’s kinda like saying Havner was terrible. No, it’s just the Packers had many, many TE’s. Atl is stacked on RB. They took two hits at the position and still produced….and they wanted to keep this guy on top of it. That’s a good sign, not a bad one.
by PackApologist on Sep 19, 2010 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
that's just it
Havner is good, but not great. Certainly not even good enough to make the team again when compared to unproven guys in Crabtree or Quarless. So, if we apply that same logic to the Atlanta half back situation, we’ve got a guy who’s decent, but not great in Nance. For all the ribbing Grant took, he was better than just good, although he was never exceptional like say Peterson. Lynch proved to me yesterday that he could be a difference maker – most likely better than Grant, but again not compared to Peterson.
by gern blanston on Sep 20, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Impressive enough
But didn’t Marshawn Lynch look pretty damn impressive against us at times?
to ensure that the Bills would want too high of a price for him, now.
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The glass is way,, way, way more than half-full.
Yup! I think they are trying to drive his value up. That is why you hear the “he’s not available” and then he’s suddenly the primary back the next week. The offers coming in weren’t enough so they are trying to get his value to spike so they can send him on his way and get ready for next year with another nice pick.
Smart business move
i don’t think it was enough to convince TT of over paying though
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
so....
there were quite a few people that thought Brandon Jackson could be efficient. I was never really convinced. Has anyone changed their tune on him? I’m about ready to give up a player or up to say a 3rd for Lynch. I have about as much confidence in Jackson now as I did in 2007.
by gern blanston on Sep 20, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
rumor
I read on ProFootBallTalk.com that the Bills want a Starter and a draft pick for Lynch. I’m not sure if that means one of our starters, or someone that could start for them.
by gern blanston on Sep 20, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Clay Matthews
I will totally hop on the CMIII bandwagon when he gets 3 sacks on Bert Farve. BTW, how did Bert do today Viqueens fans?
He was in his usual Skol Minnesota form.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 19, 2010 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Imagine that...
Clay Mathews one on one with Phil Loadholt! laughs Can’t wait to play the Vikes…
no TD's and 3 picks
Or perhaps it was 2. I’m not sure. But in 2 games he’s got 0 TD’s and 4(?) Ints. So what’s he getting per game 1.25 million? Think he’s giving any of that back (even though it’s not about the money).
by gern blanston on Sep 19, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
3 picks
and 1 fumble in the end zone for a Phin TD
by Goldenarmadillo4 on Sep 19, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
+4
Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy. :)
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 19, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Koa Misi recovered the fumble in the endzone on this play.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/miami-dolphins/09000d5d81aa5a21/Dolphins-strip-Favre-for-a-TD
"What's your formula for the corner?" -Doctor Sheldon Cooper from The Big Bang Theory
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 19, 2010 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah and another pick was called back due to offsetting penalties…though the drive ended in a pick anyway.
MN has to be pushing the panic button
I"d be surprised if they weren’t.
by gern blanston on Sep 20, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
The Gopher football team is desperately pushing the Vikes and the T-Wolves for the position of most dysfunctional sports team in Minnesota…
Maybe Koa Misi and Jared Odrick would be Patriots if Bill Parcells wasn't Comedic.Sans's father...
"I looked at BN once. I got banned." -the immortal words of JShufelt
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 24, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Mathsay has done well too though. I think we’re just fine with him.
by packallday555 on Sep 20, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
BJ Raj
Looks to be playing well. Wonder what McGinn will say in his assessment of the game?
Great Win
CMIII looks unstoppable. I was especially impressed with his final sack where we rushed 3 (raji, jenkins, CMIII) and clay got the sack, and if he wouldn’t have Jenkins would have. It’s nice to have a little success against a weaker opponent. The bears will be the toughest game yet. I still feel like they’re playing over their heads, but i’m still nervous about the game. Should be a great game, I don’t think Cutler likes playing against this Capers D. I’m really excited. GB-30 CHI-20
"It’s nice to have a little success against a weaker opponent"
My feelings exactly. I just wish my other team (the Badgers) would do the same instead of relying on other teams’ mistakes and blocked PATs.
"Career highlights? I had two. I got an intentional walk from Sandy Koufax and I got out of a rundown against the Mets." - Bob Uecker
Gosh, they looked awful yesterday.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 19, 2010 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Just the special teams.
The offense was actually in sync.
"What's your formula for the corner?" -Doctor Sheldon Cooper from The Big Bang Theory
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 19, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
oh so different in college
without preseason and all, i think the badgers will be okay. Myself (a CU fan…), I am used to bad early performances against weaker teams. College football is so different. I’m from MN, and would love to see the Goofs do well, but …uh… I don’t see that happening. I live and die by the Twins and the Packers and I think each still have a legitimate at world championships. Go Pack Go. (The first, and only game I’ve been to at Lambeau, was the Packs V the the St. Louis Rams, their first game, modernly, as St. Louie, was a loss in what I remember as 95) I love the Packers.

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