Saturday Morning Preview - Packers @ Bears
We have to wait one extra day for the Week 3 tilt between the Black and Blue Division rivals, both looking to improve to 3-0. There's no better stage for an NFC North rivalry than on Monday Night. A few of my most memorable Packers moments have occurred in that situation: Antonio Freeman's "HE DID WHAT?!" catch against the Vikings and Favre to Brooks for a 99-yard TD against the Bears are just a few. I expect a great old-school battle this week, so let's dive into the matchups.
Bears' Offense vs. Packers' Defense
Chicago's offensive line is not what it once was, and the Packers have been creating an effective pass rush against teams with subpar O-lines in two games this season. I expect Monday's game to be no different. The Bears will be productive on offense only if Jay Cutler is able to get the ball out of his hands quickly and make good decisions in the face of the rush, and I don't see that happening. Sooner or later, Clay Matthews will be slowed down by someone...but I doubt that it's this week.
Packers' Offense vs. Bears' Defense
Oh what will happen with the running game? Frankly, I don't expect conventional runs to be effective against the Bears' front seven, especially with Brian Urlacher's return from injury appearing to invigorate the unit. That said, I want to see more swing and screen passes to Brandon Jackson - that's where he's most effective. I see a lot in common between Jackson and Matt Forte - they're both good blockers and very good receivers out of the backfield, and they have not been particularly effective on running plays. I know I said it last week, but I continue to hope that McCarthy and Joe Philbin recognize this and adapt their playcalling accordingly.
Bears' Player to Watch: Greg Olsen
Despite a few blindingly fast (but raw) wideouts in Johnny Knox and Devin Hester, but the receiving threat that worries me the most in this game is their athletic tight end, Greg Olsen. While he hasn't had a dominant game this season, he showed a flash of his ability against the Cowboys on a 39-yard catch and run for a score. It will be interesting to see how the Packers address Olsen, whether with safeties or linebackers.
Packers' Players to Watch: James Jones and Jordy Nelson
The Bears' secondary has three veteran starters and a fourth player in his second year as a starter. Behind the starters, however, there's not a whole lot of depth in the secondary. I want to see the Packers' extra wideouts have good games playing one-on-one against the Bears' nickel and dime corners, while the safeties focus on Jermichael Finley.
All in all, I expect this to be an old-school defensive struggle, won by whichever quarterback can avoid turnovers and make one or two big plays. I think Rodgers fits that description better than Jay Cutler, and the Pack wins a close, low-scoring game.
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Brandon Chillar
Has to be the way to neutralize Olsen, he has to be one of the only LBs who are athletic enough to beat that kind of match-up which is similar to that of Brent Celek which worked for the most part.
might not play
He’s dinged up. I think he’s questionable. Poppinga against the pass worries the heck out of me.
by gern blanston on Sep 27, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't expect it to be that low scoring.
One way or another, the Bears should find a way to get above the 20 point threshold. Their secondary is pretty poor, which should play right into the hands of Rodgers and the offense. I haven’t been impressed by Chicago thus far, and I don’t expect to have to correct myself Tuesday morning.
Pack win, 34-21
by Jason Hirschhorn on Sep 25, 2010 2:00 PM CDT reply actions
Olsen's gonna be too busy
His receptions are predicated upon being able to free himself from being an extra blocker.
"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Vince Lombardi
P.O.ed in the polls
I am very annoyed with what I’m reading about Bulaga being musical-chaired at both LG and LT this week. First it’s “oh, Clifton’s done, he’s gonna’ be in there at tackle.” Then it’s “oh, wait, now Colledge isn’t for sure, we might put him there.” …or they might both be fine or they might both be out. I mean, for crying out loud, we’re talking about a guy making his first NFL start! Can we please let him know more than hour before game time what position he’ll be playing? Last time I checked, we still have Lang on roster. Let him back up Colledge!
The coaches are in too much of a rush to get Bulaga in the line-up. It’ll happen, guys, calm down! With their impatience, they’re doing everything they can to set him up for failure. Now, I think he’s probably good enough so that he’ll ultimately be okay. But, that said, if he does wind up succeeding, it will be despite the coaching staff and not because of them.
…not to mention that the rest of the lineman have got to be saying “wth? where do we fit in. Is this a team, or are we all supposed to wait for golden boy over here?” I mean, the kid’s a rookie. Let him fit in and learn!
In my opinion Bulaga and Lang both need to start on the left side
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Why?
We all know Clifton hasn’t been a 100%. If he’s not, Bulaga should start. After a slow start against the Eagles, Tausher played very well against the Bills. Further Lang’s progress has been hampered by an earlier injury.
Clifton is ancient and Colledge sucks
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by blackoutsox on Sep 28, 2010 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Quit cryin...
I mean seriously! You DO know that they need backup OL playing more than one position don’t you? You simply can’t have 10 OL active for a 45 man game day roster! So Bulaga is backing up the 2 starters… Thats the way it goes! Some of you have been crying about this endlessly, but to what end? NOTHING… Its just so old and annoying already! Give it a rest! Its either he backs up both or he SITS!!! Which do you prefer?
good luck pack
im a bears fan for life
a football fan first
i agree with war wolf im glad its a possibility we can go back to the good ol days when this game was interesting because both teams were good
as far as the game if you guys get a chance to go back and see some of my posts im normally fairly close with scores and such
i think this will be a shootout
im thinking 31- 27 im not picking a winner though
i will say this not having a running game against the chicago bears has cost our first 2 opponents wins
last year dallas did extrmely well running the ball and heading into week two as a team they were averaging 4.8 yards a carry… against chicago 2.1
it will be interesting to see if our line can hold back that sick pass rush you guys have…
will also be interesting to see the db’s keep up with the speed we have on the field
your o-line is banged up and our defensive line hasnt generated tons of pressure, look for that to change this week.
the switch to martzfense people missed something big. the st lousi rams at one point had lovie smith as a coordinator and martz as a coach, now there roles are reversed but correct me if im wrong the numbers offensively and defensively look awfully similar… get where im going?
this isnt the chicago bears your playing
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Sep 25, 2010 4:51 PM CDT reply actions
I just read the same ... paragraph? ... three times over, and only now understand it.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 25, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
oh and
Aaron Rodgers is the best Qb in the Nfc behind drew brees and probably top 5 in the league. I also believe you guys have the best team in the nfc
hopefully we get some good hits this monday, a great game, and a renewed rivalry…i’ll fire up to an injury free entertaining game from both sides
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Sep 25, 2010 4:52 PM CDT reply actions
Low scoring?
Vegas has the Packers by 3, and the O/U at 46 or so. So I guess the average gambler is expecting a medium-scoring game. I don’t know what to expect.
Can not wait to watch this game!
I heard some dopes on ESPN saying that the Bears will win because they “like Jay Cutler.” So, yeah… that happened. I mean no disrespect to the Bears but after hearing that, I hope we eat him alive. Too bad Mike Neal is still injured because I haven’t really seen what he can do yet.
Our offense has still not played well for an entire game yet so I’m interested to see if they can turn it up a notch against the Bears’ D. I would love to make some predictions but anything can happen- especially in divisional games…
P.S. Any chance of there being an open thread for the Lions beat-down (hey, I can dream) of the Vikings tomorrow?
by Shamalamadingdong on Sep 25, 2010 6:27 PM CDT reply actions
Don't see why not
I assume that’ll be the Fox game that everyone in the Midwest will get. If Brandon or Tex don’t post a general “Sunday Games Open Thread”, I’ll crank out a FanPost.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
I was thinking about
joining in with the Lions fans on their thread over at Pride of Detroit.
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The glass is way, way, way more than half-full.
Speaking of PoD,
check out the comments beneath this post.
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The glass is way, way, way more than half-full.
Or they'll both post one
And confuse everyone :D
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Bears win 35-28
That’s right, you guys are one of the best teams in the NFL, and you earned that. But I think way to many people downplayed the Bears, our defense isn’t even clicking on all cylinders and I think we look pretty darn good, yeah you can look at the passing yards allowed and say we can’t defend the pass, we stop the run, and made the other teams one dimensional, so the passing yards are gonna be higher. Who did you guys beat, an Eagles team, that couldn’t recognize that Vick should have been the starter all along, and if he was, you guys would have lost that game, sorry to tell ya, and you beat up Buffalo, there is probably some division 1A teams that can do that. And I don’t want to hear the crap about us being lucky against Detroit, if we didn’t have an issue with greasy hands, that game wouldn’t of even been close, then we beat Dallas, a lot of people picked them to go to the Super Bowl this season, I don’t see that happening, so you guys better buckle your chin straps, cause this is gonna be one helluva game. And there’s no way a rookie is gonna block Julius Peppers all day, no way, and you guys know that.
What were they thinking?
by touchdown bears on Sep 25, 2010 6:30 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Huh?
Really, you think so, I don’t share that opinion. The Bears lead in every stat of that game, and if we hadn’t of coughed up the ball giving them good field position, they wouldn’t of even been close to a victory. But hey, we lost a game on a call like that a couple of years ago with Berrian, so I guess you lose some, and you win some, but in this league you need a little bit of luck.
What were they thinking?
by touchdown bears on Sep 25, 2010 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude you won on a technicality in that game
Granted you did have all the pretty stats….that’s true, but if Johnson finishes the play all those pretty stats don’t mean anything. Really the Bears got out lucky out of that game and hammered a Dallas team that looks like it’s still in pre-season mode.
I get being excited by the Bears, and you have every right to be, but to come in here and say that we haven’t beaten anyone of importance is just ignorance….especially looking at how the Bears have won their first game.
by PackApologist on Sep 25, 2010 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
^ This ^
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 25, 2010 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
You sound like a viking fan…stats mean NOTHING. Its not fantasy football…its real football. Teams win all the time with worse stats. Turnovers are AS or MORE important than every stat out there. You can put up HUGE numbers and turn the ball over and you still had a terrible game.
Well it's not like Stafford slipped on a bannna peel on his way back to the huddle.
It was a product of Peppers taking him out the game. That’s a credit to the pass rush and the amount of pain it was able to inflict. Him getting hurt was a product of it.
Yeah but it worked!
So was Kolb getting hurt in Week 1 in Philadelphia.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 25, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Yea...the Bears havent beat anyone either?
Dallas is overrated….Seriously, every year….And the bears got lucky against Calvin Johnson and Detroit….Get it together dude, after 2 games your going to try and make an argument for the bears? c’mon man they still suck…..And yall score 35?!?!?!Bahahahahaha thats hillarious!!thanks for that man, im gonna have a better day now…Especially against our defense?? your must have a fever or something…
by SpaceGhost34 on Sep 26, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
shamalamadingdong
i almost didnt respond because of the shamalan part… too close to shamylan but anywho lol.
do what i did and join all the sports blogs. as long as your respectful and such they dont mind
everyweek i try and speak witht he fans of who we(chicago) are playing and bounce things off of the other teams fans.
i like hearing both sides, so after that i decided hey i might as well do every team and the games im interested in chime in on those blogs too
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Sep 25, 2010 6:37 PM CDT reply actions
lol
It is too similar to Shamylan. Thanks for reminding me (;_;)
by Shamalamadingdong on Sep 25, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
It all comes down to who is better,
And despite the lack of running game, I still think Green Bay is a better team. There is no way the Bears go into Philadelphia and win, none at all. Especially not after the Eagles make a halftime adjustment like they did two weeks ago.
Everyone is tired of hearing of the Lions not making a catch. That was pure luck.
Chicago’s luck runs out this week. Green Bay is better, and we will see that on Monday night.
Green Bay Packers 31, Chicago Bears 20
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 25, 2010 6:41 PM CDT reply actions
hmmm
if i recall correctly since lovie has been head coach a few things have happend with us and green bay which is why i am not quick to say a winner
lovie won 7 of 12 games as the bears coach against green bay
he is 4-1 on monday night
i dont think green bay is a better team i know green bay is a better team BUT…
passing the ball because you cant run forces you to play chicago bears defensive football, short catches over the middle leading to big hits, those cause fumbles
the more passing attempts you have the more chances to get intercepted.
this game is playing right into lovie’s style. the best defense for a pass heavy team is to force teams to either a run the ball(which hasnt worked so far) and control the clock or out throw them.
the colts won the superbowl the year they played us, if you look at the stats they did HORRIBLE playing run defense during the season, gave up alot of passing yards but forced alot of turnovers. playoffs they started stopping the run next thing i know superbowl.
we are stopping the run early, and are forcing turnovers, with an explosive passing attack where everyone down to the “fullback” is a dangerous receiver im not so sure this game it a lock packers
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Sep 25, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay, those Lovie Smith records are in the past.
No one is bringing them up here. Only you. And if you wish to continue that vein of argument, can you tell me what Lovie’s record against Green Bay was last year? 0 wins, 2 losses.
And my head is spinning. If you wish to continue this conversation, please learn how to write.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 25, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
And if you don't like a pro-Packers bias about this game,
Why are you talking about it here? This is a Packers blog, after all.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 25, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
read up
im a bears fan for life
a football fan first
i agree with war wolf im glad its a possibility we can go back to the good ol days when this game was interesting because both teams were good
as far as the game if you guys get a chance to go back and see some of my posts im normally fairly close with scores and such
i think this will be a shootout
im thinking 31- 27 im not picking a winner though first thing i typed.
I also know how to write; i was actually at work with my headphones in one ear with a customer on the phone with the other ear, typing to you at the same time and i still made it easy enough to read. With that said i do apologize if you get offended but i dont care. your the one attacking me after i clearly said YOUR TEAM IS THE BETTER TEAM i just had to also show you why im optimistic that we can win this game. because of Lovie’s stats.
If you want to bring up this years stats we can Mr. Cubs(that’s a baby BEAR) Fan
You won a game against the Bills last week who in the last 11 years only has 2 winning seasons… I even dug back to make sure i could get you two.
As to your previous comment show me where i mentioned not liking this blog, matter of fact i think you got offended honestly. Yes green bay is a better team but by your reaction to someone who didnt even come here to pick a fight i see why the word asshole was created. AGAIN I SAY GOOD LUCK PACKERS. Dont worry about commenting i wont waste my time reading your words i didnt come here to fight.
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Sep 25, 2010 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Excuse me?
I’m the one attacking you? I make a comment, and you reply to it writing a series of run-ons. Tell me exactly where I said about you not liking this blog. If it was really that bad, I’ll apologize. But I never said such a thing.
I still think Green Bay is going to win. That is my opinion, and if you don’t like it, well, I have other opinions. (Groucho Marx reference there)
And I’m an asshole? Flagged. Until now, you have been nice, but I don’t think name-calling will get you far on SB Nation blogs.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 25, 2010 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions
this arguement cuts both ways… you guys haven’t been successful running the ball either and that lets us bring pressure and try to force interceptions and turnovers… if its going to be a short catch game i would prefer to have arod vs. cutler
good point
interesting number you guys have turned the ball over two times and have forced a turnover 3 times(2 int’s , 1 fumble) +1 Green Bay
Chicago defense 3 interceptions and 3 fumbles but have turned the ball over 4 times(1 int, 3 fumbles) +2 Chicago
Defensively we create more turnovers but our offense seems like its giving it right back.
Our offense will need to hold onto the ball if we are to have a chance at winning, if not its a long day for Chi- Town…
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Sep 25, 2010 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions
There was an interception in Week 1 in Philadelphia
Called back due to replay. Woodson dived at a batted ball and appeared to catch it only to have it touch the ground and move around after catching it.
It ended up being an incomplete pass.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 25, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
there was a touchdown in week 1 in detroit
called back because calvin johnson let the ball go.
a catch i thought was a touchdown until the rule was explained.
unfortunately i dont get to watch football on sunday i work 12 hours sat and sun so im here when games are played, thank God for cable.
Found this to be interesting http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/7480/dirty-laundry-possession-in-the-end-zone though it may bring up a bad memory for some
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Sep 26, 2010 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Not me.
I’m not a Lions fan.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 26, 2010 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions
its from last season
against green bay, almost the same thing.
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Sep 26, 2010 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions
That's what I get for not opening the link.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 26, 2010 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I remember that one now.
The Calvin Johnson incident in Week 1 reminded me strongly of that.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 26, 2010 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions
i actually read up on the incident
not just the calvin johnson one but in general
the bears have been on the wrong end of that call 4 times and 2 were for game winning touchdowns… ironically detroit won won of those games
by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Sep 26, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
that's the one I was referring to
in a previous post. I thought it was a stupid rule then. I still do.
by gern blanston on Sep 27, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
actually
You have four fumbles and one INT…which puts you at a +1 too
http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/statistics?team=CHI
Exactly. Their offensive line is worse then ours, and I’d say our pass rush is just as good, if not better. I see both teams generating good pass rushes, so like you said it’ll come down to what Qb makes better decisions. I’ll take Rodgers every day of the week in that category.
by packallday555 on Sep 26, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions
The key to this game
is going to be who can manage to score the most points.
by Puddleglumed on Sep 25, 2010 8:12 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
In that case
The winner is… NOT the Vikings.
by Shamalamadingdong on Sep 25, 2010 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We scored more points than they did, so we won.
Vince Lombardi
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 25, 2010 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Urgh, didn't mean to strikethrough there.
Vince Lombardi said the quote which is in the comment’s subject line.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 25, 2010 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Sundays are tough without a Packer game!
But it was a rare opportunity to closely watch the competition, not just the highlights. I’m happy to announce that there is no team out there that looks as crisp as the Packers, with the exception of the Eagles, who fortunately are behind us. Brees hasn’t come close to last years well-oiled machine. Dallas? I was hoping the Texan’s had a defense. That game, like the Viking game seemed to be won by default. Some fans get hyper as soon as some less-than-perfect problem occurs for the Pack. The problem of the day could be running backs, cornerbacks, pick your problem. Trust me when I proclaim the Packer’s are rigged to make a serious run at the big game.

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