How we match up with Detroit
by Jabooty on Sep 29, 2010 9:42 AM CDT
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PrintLooking ahead to Week 4, we will be playing against Detroit @ Green Bay. Matthew Stafford is doubtful again. He's expected to begin light work outs today, but apparently there is "no chance" he will start against Green Bay according to Yahoo Sports news. DE Mike Neal is still considered Questionable. I thought he was going to make his first appearance against Chicago, but he's still not 100%. I would prefer him to rest up because rib injuries. We certainly could use his services, but we don't need him against Detroit.
The biggest focal point this week will be how our Offensive Line matches up against Detroit's Defensive Line. Even though the OL did not allow Aaron Rodgers to get sacked against Chicago, that doesn't mean they played well. DE Julius Peppers played on both sides of the line. His quick burst and tremendous strength made OT Mark Tauscher relatively uncomfortable going one on one against him and little adjustments were made to help him out. This led to numerous false start penalties on him and holding penalties in our dissapointing performance at Chicago. The good news for Green Bay this week is that Detroit DE Kyle Vanden Bosch plays strictly RE, so you won't see Tauscher lined up against him. The last time Green Bay faced Vanden Bosch was in 2008 @ Tennessee. That was a very dissapointing year stat wise for Vanden Bosch, but I wouldn't reflect on that season to determine how successfull he can be against Green Bay. He will be lining up against Clifton who is now 2 years older since the last time they matched up and Clifton has not had that good of a year so far. I watched Vanden Bosch closely against Chicago and Minnesota and can say he still has a motor and is relentless.
The next key defender to look at in Detroit is Ndamakong Suh. Suh may not have the stats this year, but his contributions to the team is well known. He has been a force in stopping the run and generating pressure on the QB. He will be lining up primarily against RG Josh Sitton, our best OG. Sitton has been good this year, with the only noticable setback in that blocked field goal @ Chicago, where he just got ran over by Julius Peppers.
With all that said, how do we slow down the Detroit pass rush? We know that Detroit's secondary is not good, well below average. Rodgers should have a good day, but it will be an unforgettable performance if that pass rush is shut down. One thing Schwartz likes to do when the offense lines up in passing formations is spread his defensive linemen out. This allows his speedy DE's to get after the QB a little quicker off the edge as the DT's have to attack the gaps between the OT and OG. When Detroit does this, many teams (such as Philadelphia in Week 2) audible to a running play up the middle, resulting in big gains. This game may help rejuvinate our running game and allow Kuhn and Jackson to rack up plenty of yards. I would also expect to see Rodgers roll to the right quite often to buy more time and attack the secondary.
Detroit's offense is quite stagnant without Mathew Stafford at QB. Shaun Hill is the QB, and don't be fooled by his stats. Take away HB Jahvid Best, and Hill is far below average in numbers. He rarely ever attacks down field and loves to check down to the running backs. If we can contain Best, our defense will give Detroit a beatdown. CB Charles Woodson had tremendous success against Detroit the past couple years and I don't expect that to change this Sunday. I expect Detroit to try and run against us, so Capers must be prepared.
Last but not least, it has been a LONG time since Detroit won at Lambeau Field. Prediction: Green Bay wins big 34-7. This will be our rebound game and I am expecting our running game to FINALLY show up.
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We may need to call a lot of shotgun plays and 3-step drops.
KVB and Suh are definitely going to be disruptive and hard to stop.
Detroit's better than they have been.
Better on the DL, better schemes, better effort, just better than they have been almost everywhere.
But GB matches up well with them almost everywhere. The question is will GB beat themselves? Can they close out drives and games? Thus far, they managed that against Buffalo, blew it against Chicago, and barely hung on against Philly when they should have put the game away much, much earlier than they did. Time for this team to grow up, play disciplined football, and be ruthless about finishing teams when they have the chance. If they lose to Detroit, it won’t be because of matchups. It’ll be because this team isn’t ready to win.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 29, 2010 5:50 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Not everywhere.
…just better than they have been almost everywhere.
Except in the defensive backfield.
Still one of the absolute worst in the league.
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The glass is way, way, way more than half-full.
Are you saying our D-backs are worse than Detroit's?
Or that our D-backs match up poorly with their WR?
Either way I think you’re wrong, I’m just curious.
Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"
Williams, Collins, and Woodson
are NOT bad players. Woodson just had a bad game (getting flagged for PI and burned to a crisp on some close passes), but he IS the defending Defensive Player of the Year.
Burnett’s a rookie, Derrick Martin is a backup who only comes in if Collins is hurt, and Shields is also a rookie.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 30, 2010 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions
*sigh*
I guess I should have included more of the quote than I did.
Detroit’s better than they have been.
Better on the DL, better schemes, better effort, just better than they have been almost everywhere.
to which I replied,
Except in the defensive backfield.
Still one of the absolute worst in the league.
I didn’t say anything about our defensive backs!
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The glass is way, way, way more than half-full.
Wow did I read that wrong
I thought you were replying to him talking about the Packers matching up.
Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"
Time for this team to grow up, play disciplined football, and be ruthless about finishing teams when they have the chance.
Rec’d.
by packallday555 on Sep 30, 2010 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
BIG Game for B JACK
lets just say i really think this is the make or break of Jackson. GBs secondary is terrible so i could see GBs passing game score early and often. and GB will start running the ball MUCH more so than the other 3 games. if jackson plays like he has for 3 years he wont ever be the true num 1 that everyone is hoping for.
big disappointment for him. I think this is the game its cemented that he just isn’t going to get the job done. The team isn’t even trying to run now and IMO its time to let Kuhn get the majority of the carries and let Bjack go back to what he was doing…3rd downs.
+1
and I still think knowing TT like we do, he lets the Nance and Starks cards play out and IF he does something it will be only after those 3 have failed to distinguish themselves. Frankly, at this point, I’d rather see Kuhn than BJ. And isn’t that a sad statement to make?
by gern blanston on Sep 30, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
doh! I think you’re correct on that one.
by gern blanston on Sep 30, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup. If we wait for starks, its too late.
Just think about this for a minute.
- How much practice time did starks get with our starting team: 0 min
- How much actual NFL action has he seen, preseason or season: 0 min
- Has he ever blocked a professional player: No
- Has he ever played in the zone blocking scheme: No
- Did he play in 2009: No (year and a half removed from football…)
I think we are taking a HUGE risk to hinge a possible super bowl season on a rookie who wasn’t even able to practice during the preseason, just assume he’s going to show up on week 6 and 1) play and 2) be effective. We likely won’t see anythig positive until maybe week 8, 9, 10. I like starks a LOT but geez we are asking a lot of someone who hasn’t played football since 2008.
agree with all that you said, but...
we want to be peaking later in the year, anyway. Remember how badly we beat the Giants in NY the year they won the superbowl? They got hot towards the end and carried that through.
by gern blanston on Sep 30, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
So you're saying Starks will be very very fresh?
Just kidding. I’m with you – a bit worried. However, I don’t want the Packers to trade much away to get a RB because I’d rather have many years of Super Bowl contention (rather than attempting some kind of Herschel Walker trade), but I’d like to see something happen if Jackson doesn’t show lots (LOTS) of improvement in the next week or two. I still think it’s too early to panic, and I’d rather TT wait until teams are calling him trying to unload players than have him calling teams in desperation to find a back.
by I voted for Kodos on Oct 1, 2010 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Okay…please people, don’t use a comparison to the Hershel Walker trade unless you really understand what the trade was. Trading a 2nd round pick for a starting running back is nothing like that…in fact it makes you come across as really dumb for even comparing it.
His trade involved 18 players and draft picks.
Minnesota Vikings received
* RB Herschel Walker
* Dallas’s 3rd round pick – 1991 (68)
* Dallas’s 3rd round pick – 1990 (54)
* San Diego’s 5th round pick – 1990 (116)
* Dallas’s 10th round pick – 1990 (249)
Dallas Cowboys received
* LB Jesse Solomon
* LB David Howard
* CB Issiac Holt
* RB Darrin Nelson
* DE Alex Stewart
* Minnesota’s 1st round pick in 1990 (21)
* Minnesota’s 1st round pick in 1991 (conditional) – (12)
* Minnesota’s 1st round pick in 1993 (conditional) – (13)
* Minnesota’s 2nd round pick in 1990 (47)
* Minnesota’s 2nd round pick in 1991 (conditional) – (38)
* Minnesota’s 2nd round pick in 1992 (conditional) – (37)
* Minnesota’s 3rd round pick in 1992 (conditional) – (71)
* Minnesota’s 6th round pick in 1990 (158)
Haha holy shit. I’ve never seen all those details before! That definitely has to be the worst trade in the history of the NFL.
by packallday555 on Oct 1, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Can you believe a team ACTUALLY did something like that? I mean they got ONE player and gave up 3 number ones, 3 number twos, a third, and then five players. And we wonder why Dallas was so dominant in the 90s. From the trade they got Emmitt Smith, Darren Woodson, Alvin Harper, Dixon Edwards, and then a bunch of them were traded away. One of the traded picks helped them land Russell Maryland.
Yeah, really crazy haha. Gotta love the Vikings!
by packallday555 on Oct 2, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I often tell people
If it weren’t for that trade Jimmy Johnson would have been just another coach. When he went to Miami he found it a little more difficult.
Hyperbole
I wasn’t trying to say that a 2nd round pick is the equivalent of the Herschel Walker trade. I’m trying to say that we shouldn’t give up more value out of desperation. Why not wait a week or two and have teams calling us trying to unload players? Maybe Dallas would consider getting rid of Tashard Choice. But I don’t think it’s worth it to give a first round pick for Lynch, which seems to be what the Bills are after.
by I voted for Kodos on Oct 1, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
meh…just made your comment seem ridiculous. You can use hyperbole without making it ridiculous. I knew what your point was but it was clouded by a ridiculous comparison so the point was lost. There are tons of examples of bad trades…a few of them even involving one of the same teams you just talked about (Galloway for 2 number ones or the recent Roy Williams trade). They would have made your point MUCH better by using hyperbole.
So I should limit my hyperbole? Wouldn’t that be like using two exclamation points instead of three? That just looks silly, and it’s rather ironic besides.
I wasn’t saying the Packers shouldn’t make a bad trade. No Packers fan would say that unless asked to point out the obvious. I’m just saying don’t overpay for someone and I don’t think Lynch is worth a first or second round pick.
by I voted for Kodos on Oct 2, 2010 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I would go for a third round pick because it should be a low third round pick.
by I voted for Kodos on Oct 2, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Your next assignment
is to list all of the players drafted with the picks that George Allen traded away – as manager of the Redskins and as manager of the Rams.
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The glass is way, way, way more than half-full.
Everybody knows Green Bay is desperate for a RB
So if their demands are too high, I would rather take my chances with what we have. Of course once it gets closer to the trade deadline and nothing has been done yet, teams with RB depth may be less demanding. We can win these next couple games with Jackson and Kuhn. I say be patient and trust TT to make the decision that is in the team’s best interest.
I’m not interested in trading a 2nd Round Pick to Buffalo for Marshawn Lynch. The demand is too high. In a couple weeks, I wouldn’t be surprised to see their asking demand reduced to a 4th Rounder. Then again….this is Chan Gailey we are dealing with. He’s so puzzling not even the Bills fans know what to think of him!
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
by Jabooty on Oct 1, 2010 2:44 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Can you catch Detroit at a bad time?
I’m really looking forward to watching Suh, who I haven’t yet seen play in the NFL, and from what I’ve read he’s already at the top of his game. But otherwise the Lions look in bad shape. The offense is unsurprisingly struggling with Shaun Hill at the controls. Best is scoring TDs but he’s only averaging 3.3 yards per carry. The defense appears to be a wreck due to a ton of injuries. Injuries on offense too (including Best and Stafford). They aren’t playing well and they’re really banged up.
Suh has beena beast and has improved with every game it sounds like.
He and KVB are a great duo: one to swallow the o-line and the other to hit the QB. If we can get these guys blocked it should be a blow out.
4th among DTs in tackles with 12 and tied for 2nd in sacks with 2.
He has also lead the team to 2nd in the league in sacks and 1st in negative-yardage plays.
how does that compare to Raji? I know he’s played well,but don’t know his stat line.
by gern blanston on Sep 30, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
5 tackles and 1 sack. Pretty impressive for NT.
by packallday555 on Sep 30, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
D-Linemen in a 3-4
just won’t get the stats a 4-3 D-lineman will get, but it seems like he’s done well pushing the pocket. I think Trgovac [sic?] seems to be doing well as line coach. Also, it usually takes defensive linemen a few years to get the muscle memory down and really start playing well. Suh may be an exception because he may not be human.
by I voted for Kodos on Oct 1, 2010 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, exactly. Suh’s role in that 4-3 defense is too rush the passer. I think he’s being used pretty similar to how Haynesworth was back in Tennessee with Schwartz.
Raji’s role as NT is much different, and doesn’t allow him to rush the passer the same way Suh is able too. Though, we haven’t played in our base defense much. When we line up in the 2-4-5 it’s pretty similar to a 4-3 defense I think.
Either way though, Raji has looked pretty good so far this year. He gets pretty consistent push in pass rush situations, and has been pretty stout against the run.
I can’t wait for Neal to come back. He looked really good in the preseason, particularly when rushing the passer. Getting him back will allow Raji and Jenkins to rest some more, which will only help things out.
by packallday555 on Oct 1, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree with you about Raji, but I disagree slighlty about Suh. He’s not just a pass rusher. That’s what KVB is there for. Suh does everything on that line but drop back in coverage. He is a complete d-lineman, and that’s why he was taken ahead of McCoy. I agree with Kodos, as I’ve watched him for 2 years and I’m still not sure he’s entirely human.
Oh, I feel the same way. I was only touching on his pass rushing because the topic on hand seemed to be sacks. I think Suh will be the best tackle in the game in a year or two. He’s definitely not human. I used to love watching him rip through double teams, and occasionally triple teams.
by packallday555 on Oct 1, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
We're definitely missing him.
We have plenty of guys that can get after the quarterback, but the run defense has been a little soft. Guys are running it right up the middle on us. Jared Crick better pick it up or we could struggle some against the better rushing teams (we’re facing Daniel Thomas on Thursday).
It's not a fair comparison
3-4 NT’s rarely ever get sacks. Just look at the best of them in Casey Hampton and Vince Wilfork. How many sacks do they get? To answer that question for you- the last time Wilfork got a sack was in 2008 and he only got 2. Casey Hampton got 2.5 last year. NT’s simply have the least glamorous role on defense.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Detroit at a bad time?
You mean like 2000-2009?
by I voted for Kodos on Oct 1, 2010 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I think we lose this one
Detroit’s 0-3, and they’re not nearly that bad, so they’ll be playing hungry. They know that they’re not as bad as their record. They couldn’t contain Vick, but who could at this point? We sure didn’t. Their loss to Chicago was obviously crap.
The Packers, on the other hand, are in the psychology that they only lost to Chicago because they didn’t play their game. That kind of thinking is poisonous to a team. It’s almost as bad as a coach saying “a couple plays here and there and we’d have X-number of wins” (if you ever hear a coach say that, you know the team’s going to suck from then on). I think we come out crappy again. Hopefully that’ll be enough to knock the arrogance out from our thinking so that we can start preparing and executing well enough that we leave nothing to chance and translate our talent into wins.
The preseason hype bubble still has some air in it. I’m actually hoping it’ll be popped completely at some point in the regular season. Complacent, sloppy teams lose because they commited 17 penalties. Hungry, disciplined teams take advantage of every opportunity and make their own luck. We’re not there yet.
Hate to say it, but couldn't disagree more
I have several Lions friends who are looking to Sunday with fear. Everyone of them has told me the are not looking forward to the Pack taking thier revenge for Monday night out on them. I am so complerely the other way, that I am worried about the exact opposite. I see Green Bay being all fired up this weekend, having something to prove, and just destroying the Lions, only to have the leasons learned from Monday night be completely lost. In my world, I am looking for a repeat of last years game, best of both worlds. Packers start strong dominating, slow down (they always do) and the Lions start to creep back in. Along the middle of the 3rd quarter Woodson picks it off and runs it back (he needs to get back to last years level and thats what started him last year ………. plus he’s on my fantasy team, so bonus!) From that point Packers total cream the Lions. Clears thier head up a little more (making them realize you have to PLAY EVERY GAME) and then the positive momentum!!
by ShawnH on Sep 30, 2010 1:51 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
IDP rocks!
………. plus he’s on my fantasy team, so bonus!
I got him, too!
Took him in the fifth round. :)
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The glass is way, way, way more than half-full.
Huge difference
They couldn’t contain Vick, but who could at this point? We sure didn’t.
The Lions gameplanned for Vick.
We didn’t.
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The glass is way, way, way more than half-full.
Hungry, disciplined teams take advantage of every opportunity and make their own luck.
You forgot, “and go undefeated,” which is what “hungry, disciplined teams” do in the ‘perfect world’ of which you speak.
The preseason hype bubble still has some air in it. I’m actually hoping it’ll be popped completely at some point.
Spoken like a true Packers fan! :(
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The glass is way, way, way more than half-full.
So, you don’t think that the Packers got way too much hype in the preseason? And are you going to tell me that McCarthy’s teams cope well with inflated expectations?
I don’t want the team to go undefeated. I want them to think realistically and play desperately. As it is, they always seem to be one flattering news article away from turning into a finesse team. …and I’m tired of seeing it happen every time we have a big game.
by Curly Lambeau on Sep 30, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Just to add to your point
Last year the Lions came into Lambeau and the Packers played like absolute crap. It was only because they had Stafford leave that we ended up winning.
The Packers on the other hand are in the psychology that they only lost to Chicago because they didn't play their game. That kind of thinking is poisonous to a team.
Doesn’t have to be if:
1) they’re right; and
2) they fix it.
In this instance, I am 100% convinced they are right. The Bears aren’t a bad team but they aren’t a really good one either. If you look at the plays that got them the win almost every single one of them (except the punt return for the TD and the blocked FG) were more the poduct of GB errors than Chicago’s achievments. And when you look at the big plays made by GB that were taken off the board because of penalties elsewhere on the field, there is no rational way to conclude anything other than the Packers beat themselves.
Now what do they do with that information? What does McCarthy do with it? That’s what’s important. If the players remain cocky and convinced that it can’t happen again, or if they aren’t held responsible by McCarthy and he doesn’t “get that fixed” as he’s so fond of saying, then you’re right, it could be poisonous. But that would have a lot more to do with the failure to correct the mistakes than the original belief that they beat themselves.
I’m not confident in McCarthy’s ability to get the penalties fixed, mostly because he never has. It’s not like this is a new problem with his teams. The players might manage it on their own, however, and there are some positions (like LT, G and others) where there might be a change in personnell that could minimize the problems.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 30, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Suh,Kvb , C-dub,Avril,big sammie lee hill,=w
Sorry packer fans times our a changing in detroit!O-3 lions same ol losers right? I’m sure this weekend will be a packers victory but it won’t be easy. Suh is a beast , u guys better dbl him all game !If not look forward to Suh goin Ape shit on rodgers!Kvb well just wait and see . Green bay has no run game and plays right into detroits hands.We want rodgers running scared all game!! These Lions have teeth and pullin one out in green bay with backups is what this team needs.The lions are hungry and I mean real hungry! In closing Stafford is the real deal when healthy!He makes Rodgers look like a UFL qb ! Staffords physical mechanics are threw the roof that boy can sling it! Theirs only one gun slinger in nfc north and that’s stafford!Laugh it off but just wait and see tbc…….
by devinb on Sep 30, 2010 4:16 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Sorry? You got THAT right, boy!
lions same ol losers right?
in the defensive backfield? You betcha!
Every bit the same old losers!
Staffords physical mechanics are threw the roof that boy can sling it!
Nice.
Except that he won’t be playing!
Wanna know somethin’, Dev?
Nobody is scared of your Cowardly Lions!
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The glass is way, way, way more than half-full.
Well, I have to say,
Your posts have certainly brightened my day with a little bit of humor.
And weren’t you saying in the other thread that the Lions would win?
I will grant you one thing. The Lions are better this year. However, I still don’t think they win this weekend. Get back to me in December….
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 30, 2010 6:49 AM CDT up reply actions
A few questions for you
How does not having a run game play into Detroit’s hands? Is it the fact that you have a front four that can stop the run and a back 7 that can’t stop the pass? Did you mean to type “plays right into Green Bay’s hands”?
If Stafford makes Rodgers look like a UFL QB…actually, scratch that. I’m not going to dignify that with a question.
Finally, when was the last time you passed a drug test?
Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"
by GoGregGo on Sep 30, 2010 7:23 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rodgers doesn't run scared
He’s one cool customer that is not easily rattled.
by gern blanston on Sep 30, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
He only runs scared when Barbre is starting at tackle...
And then he’s running for a reason (facepalm).
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 30, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
That's only when he has enough time start running.
Most of the time the pass-rusher is on A-Rod as soon as he snaps the ball.
Allen Barbre is an alias.
His real name is “Revolving Door”.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 30, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
they should MIC him
I bet you’d hear “OLE” a lot as he lets the guy run past untouched. Poor Matt Hasselbeck!
by gern blanston on Sep 30, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Seattle drafted a T just so they could avoid Revolving Door's crappy pass-blocking coming to haunt them.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 30, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Babre you mean one of the best Tackles in the League???
Rubish he is a great tackle and the second comming of Ugho i cant believe you would ever speak ill of a HOFesqe player….
incase it doesn’t show well in text that was sarcasim.
You forgot this tag
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 30, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
It is only a matter of time
before some D-lineman that Barbre is supposed to be blocking intercepts the shotgun snap from center.
by I voted for Kodos on Oct 1, 2010 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions
You're high.
Detroit is better, but they aren’t good. It’s just a question fo whether GB plays to its potential. If they do, the Lions have no chance.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Sep 30, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
they are better
how can you not be when you’re in the top 5 in the draft for what – 5 years in a row? Or, is it longer? I mean as long as you’re not perpetually picking a WR with your first pick……
They definitely have some guys that show promise – Stafford, Pettigrew, Suh, Best, Megatron, Delmas. But there are still far too many holes. Plus, Stafford needs to stay healthy. I think they made a big mistake not taking a bigger name as a backup QB than Shaun Hill.
by gern blanston on Sep 30, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
thats where i disagree
i think Hill is an underrated back up ( i am in no way saying he is a good QB) but i think he could get the job done on a better team.
I don’t know. I’d say the 49ers last season were a better team and he still couldn’t really get it done. Doesn’t seem like he has the arm strength or accuracy down field. He missed guys wide open a few times against the Vikings.
by packallday555 on Sep 30, 2010 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Times ourn't changing that quickly
Your subject line reads Lions win, your third ‘sentence’ reads Packers win. Are you confused or do times change that quickly? In summary, I’m glad they don’t have spell checker or grammar checker on this site because of posts like this. Thank you.
by I voted for Kodos on Oct 1, 2010 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Lions an here
Only way, the Lions win this game is a miracle, we win, it will be one of the biggest wins in a longgggg time. Just glad we don’t have to face Ryan Grant, he wears teams down. And yes, coming from a die-hard Lions fan our back 7- suck. With the exception of Louis Delmas. Unless Arron Rogers gets knocked out of the game because of a Suh/Vanden Bosch Sandwhich, He will shred us. Prediction- 27-13 Packers. Im rooting for you guys to win the division, unfortunately to much yellow on that field not from your jerseys.
Good post.
I’m also rooting for the Lions to do well this year. Go Suh (Husker fan), except for this week.
Good post.
Agreed. (except, of course, for the part where he butchered BOTH of Aaron Rodgers’ names.
Arron RogersHaha. :)
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The glass is way, way, way more than half-full.
As a fan of a team in the same division as him,
there is certainly no reason you should be.
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The glass is way, way, way more than half-full.
Me too. I hope Packers win just because I hate the Bears so much.
If the Lions had a chance, well obviously I’d want them to win, but I want to see A-Rod and the Packers stick to the Bears and Brett Favre.
From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!
Not so fast cheeseheads -SUH!
Suh is goin to do the "stone cold stunner " on mr rogers.
by devinb on Sep 30, 2010 3:53 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
wow…well enjoy his multi game suspension for that little maneuver there bucko. Actually the inside of our line is fairly solid so Suh will probably he held somewhat in check…thanks for playing though.
Sitton will probably be responsible for him, so yeah I doubt he absolutely terrorizes us. Colledge will be going against Williams too, which will be interesting because he used to play here. I’m sure both guys know each other’s game pretty well.
by packallday555 on Sep 30, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, but last I heard,
Mr. Rogers died in 2003.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 30, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
What a dirty, lowdown troll you are.
Two things that make you fit that description:
1. You post on another team’s site and show absolutely no respect for that fact, or for the fans of the team whose site you are trolling!
2. You have nothing intelligent to say, whatsoever.
Now, go play in the middle of the freeway, or go cry on your mommy’s shirttail some more, .
I don’t care which; just get lost!
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The glass is way, way, way more than half-full.
Suh
Lol dude chill out, have a sense of humor why don’t you. I have respect for the pack, they are one of the best organizations in the league and all time.I give em credit for how they handled the Farve situation!!! These bloggs are wonderfull ways to communicate with the fans.Everyone is entittled to an opinion so spare me.Hell have fun with this, it puts more fuel on the fire when it comes to sunday. I love sb nation and I can " troll" your fan site because I’m a fan of football not just detroit lions! In this league anything can happen on any given sunday and the lions are looking to pull an upset at Lambeu . I have a reason to be optimistic on sunday beacause the packer defense is not the same as last year and clearly with no run game it makes the packers one dimensional. That clearly plays into detroits hands! Unlike past lions teams we have two defensive ends who can bull rush up the field and contain rodgers in the pocket. Prediction Lions 17-14 , hanson fg at the end of regulation.
by devinb on Oct 1, 2010 6:56 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Again
how does having to throw the ball play into Detroit’s hands?
Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"
Yeah, I don’t think he realizes our biggest strength is essentially the Lions biggest weakness. (Passing game vs. their secondary) Maybe he thinks Rodgers will be on his ass all game? But even if that is the case, I’m sure we’ll just spread them out like we did to the Bears, and allow Rodgers to get the ball out quick.
I’m also not sure how our defense “is not the same as last season”. Our pass rush is actually improved. Sure, we struggled against the Bears passing attack but so has every other team that has played them. They have a lot of weapons, and offensive coordinator who knows how to use those weapons. I think we’ll see most teams struggle to stop their passing game. Kinda like most teams will struggle to stop our passing game, or the Patriots passing game, or the Saints passing game, etc.
Too simply put it, I think our pass rush is improved. The Lions offensive line is still weak, and I don’t think they have as many weapons as the Bears do. Plus, they’ll be playing their back-up Qb. We shouldn’t lose this game.
by packallday555 on Oct 1, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Disagree with that. Actually, we have more offensive weapons
It’s just half the of entire offense is injured so it appears like they don’t.
From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!
Well yeah, I was taking that into account but I don’t know if you have more. Probably about the same. Bears: Cutler, Forte, Taylor, Hester, Knox, and Olsen. Lions: Stafford (at times), Best, Johnson, Pettigrew, Scheffler.
by packallday555 on Oct 1, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, on most sites, you can't "troll" at all.
It’s written in the site guidelines.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 1, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm a diehard Lions fan and even I know better. The Lions might squeak out a win, but...
the Packers will blow us away. I can’t fathom winning in Lambeau especially without Matthew Stafford.
From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!
Yeah, you guys are probably gonna blow us out.
Our secondary is atrocious. Like, very possibly worst in the league atrocious. I’m guessing that Rodgers is gonna have a 400 yard 4 TD kind of day, and he probably won’t have to try very hard to do it.
If Stafford was healthy I would say that we do have a legitimate shot at winning, but our OC has been very conservative with the playcalling since he went down, with much of that likely being attributed to our backup, Shaun Hill, having one of the weaker arms in the league.
Also, our O-line, which was supposed to be much improved with the addition of G Rob Sims, really isn’t much better at all, mainly because Jeff Backus is really starting to show his age. Clay Matthews should have a field day.
So yes, you guys will likely make us look pretty bad out there. And I’m not exaggerating about the atrocity that is our secondary, we could literally have six DB’s on the field for every snap for all 4 quarters and still have no hope of stopping Rodgers.
Next time we meet, when we have a healthy Stafford, things will look a bit better for us. Until then… we don’t have a chance.
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