All The Packers Backup Lineman Play For The Seahawks
by Brandon on Sep 30, 2010 10:00 AM CDT
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PrintThe Seattle Seahawks were bound to show some interest in former Green Bay Packers because one of the Packers former execs is now Seattle's GM. But the stockpile of former offensive lineman, pointed out in a FanPost by Jabooty, is a little weird.
As detailed by Danny O'Neil of The Seattle Times, G Evan Dietrich-Smith, T Allen Barbre, and T Breno Giacomini have all been signed this month by the Seahawks, this after the surprising resignation of well known offensive line coach Alex Gibbs. The Seahawks have had some injuries on their line, so they do need some fresh bodies, and apparently these are the guys GM John Schneider is familiar with. But there sure is a revolving door of players, and coaches, in Seattle.
O'Neil goes on to say that despite those additions, and Gibbs's departure, they haven't changed away from a zone blocking scheme. I'd guess that's right. It does mean that QB Matt Hasselbeck might not be long for an upright position if any of them receive playing time. They've all been known to let a pass rusher run free-and-clear for the quarterback at times. Despite the poor play of Barbre last season, what really ended his Packer career was his part (along with Giacomini and Dietrich-Smith) in the beating that QB Matt Flynn took during the preseason games.
Unfortunately with Giacomini signed off the Packers practice squad, it means they've re-signed T Chris Campbell to it. Luckily they have so much depth on the 53-man active roster that Campbell remains very far away from it.
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must be doing SOMETHING right
It seems like the players we cut and put on the PS are continually getting picked over which tells me that TT is really doing SOMETHING right when it comes to drafting. If people are THAT interested in our castoffs, we must have a fairly deep team…or we are keeping the wrong guys!
By the way, I sit here looking at what could have been regarding the Seahawks. They got Leon Washington for the 138th pick in the draft, just imagine how nice it would be to have him in our backfield and returning kicks and punts for us?!?!
Agree
Washington would have been wonderful.
I don’t find the Seahwawks picking these players up odd at all though. It’s likely to be linked to the fact that these players are quite literally acclimated to weather like they’ll find in Seattle and that in itself is a selling point from the get go.
Being used to playing in those conditions, especially in an offensive line is probably a good proverbial foot in the door.
"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Vince Lombardi
It just sucks
that our PS gets ravaged and we got like nothing in return for it
by Goldenarmadillo4 on Sep 30, 2010 11:14 AM CDT reply actions
that's the nature of the practice squad
if Nance turns out to be a stud, will you be complaining then?
by gern blanston on Sep 30, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd actually like to see Nance play
but it just seems like we shop these people all preseason and no one bites and then they get them for free which kinda sucks. But I know thats how it’s meant to be, just wish it wasn’t people we were trying to trade earlier
by Goldenarmadillo4 on Sep 30, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
soon enough
this pathetic rushing attack can’t maintain the status quo that much longer (can it????)
by gern blanston on Sep 30, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
That's annoying.
When was Giacomini stolen signed? They’ve got him on their active roster?
Actually, it’s fine. We don’t do that well with developing struggling linemen. Our guys either get it right away or not at all, it seems like. So, SEA signing him is like ripping the band-aid off really quick instead of slow and painful.
If someone takes my trash to the dumpster for me, I usually do something nice in return
Like have my wife bake them cookies… or leave them alone.
i only miss it if it had value. If it’s worthless to me, I really don’t care if it’s stolen. That actually saves me the hassle of throwing it away!
by gern blanston on Sep 30, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree
but that strikes me as more of a Campen thing than necessarily a player thing. A really good teacher has different ways to get the same point across – until the light goes on for that person. Perhaps Campen doesn’t have that many tricks up his sleeve. Gibbs is supposed to be excellent at that (as noted below). I take that to mean he’s a much better teacher. If he’s available, he strikes me as a huge upgrade.
by gern blanston on Sep 30, 2010 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, he’s had mixed success, at best. It’s not like he’s never developed a guy. But, then again, I’ve had hopes for many guys that we have drafted, and it seems like an awful high number of them wash out.
by Curly Lambeau on Oct 1, 2010 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Allen Barbre may have been my least faorite Packer of all time.
I’m worried for Matt Hasslebeck, as the guy has already been through a lot over the last few years.
Ahmad Carrol
A fast, athletic defensive back with no skill for the game and no ability to absorb coaching. Penalties all the time. Rumor was, at one point the coaches made him practice with boxing gloves on so he would learn to stop holding, but even that didn’t work.
I’d still go with Terrell Buckley though. Got burned all the time and dropped punts like the football was a stolen car stereo.
by I voted for Kodos on Oct 1, 2010 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Nice career
when he wasn’t a Packer. That’s why I dislike him more than Carrol. At least Carrol flamed out everywhere else. Buckley = Gary Sheffield. Maybe he tanked it to go to another market? Probably not, but I’d prefer a Jamal Reynolds to some guy that goes on to play well elsewhere. Salt in the wounds.
by I voted for Kodos on Oct 1, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
INTs aren’t always the measure of a sure player though. But yeah, he definitely exceeded the expectation I had for him after we dumped him!!!
Buckley probably had more muffed punts than interceptions at the time he left Green Bay. But yeah, interceptions aren’t everything. Asante Samuel of the Eagles likes to try to jump every route he can. Sure, he’ll get 6-8 picks, but he’ll also get burned multiple times for each pick he makes.
by I voted for Kodos on Oct 1, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
If a lineman can't beat out the Packers starters
Then I’m not very concerned about losing him.
Didn’t Alex Gibbs quit on the Seahawks? Isn’t he supposed to be one of the better offensive line coaches? Any chances we could add him at some point? I agree with Curly that we don’t seem particularly adept at developing O-linemen at this point. Which reminds me – Trgovac seems to be doing a great job developing D-linemen.
by I voted for Kodos on Sep 30, 2010 5:24 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Exactly.
I hope they play when the Packers next meet the Seahawks.
by uglyfatpimplynerd on Sep 30, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
eh…just cause he didn’t make the squad right now doesn’t mean he couldn’t still be a great lineman. He just wasn’t ready now. Only time will tell but to say that its not a loss just because they weren’t ready yet isn’t good logic.
Yeah, you're right on that.
But Barbre and Giancomini did have a few years to improve and didn’t. Maybe that says as much about our o-line coach than the players, but that’s why I’d like to see the Packers make a run at someone like Alex Gibbs. Good position coaches can be huge difference makers.
by I voted for Kodos on Oct 1, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
Look at Kevin Greene. He’s got CM3 and Zombo going strong!
by gern blanston on Oct 1, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
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