Wait, What? A Steeler Fan Already?
by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Jan 25, 2011 4:51 AM CST
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PrintWhat's up Cheese Heads, congrats on an awesome win over the Bears Sunday. I loved seeing Cutler take himself out of the game, proved to me that he has all the tools but doesn't have the cojones (so to speak).
Anyway, I know this is early as hell and both fanbases are still prolly a little bit fired up from the weekend. However with this being Superbowl time, there is much to discuss and lots of banter to be had.
So I offer myself to you as a source of knowledge all things Steeler related, and will do my best to answer any questions you may have regarding the game, or just about our team in general.
I also ask to try to keep it civil, think through what you're saying before you hit post, these things can go south quickly.
via ngepress.com
Good Luck for your preparation, and get healed up. This should be a good one.
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http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2011/1/25/1955505/ask-a-packer-fan
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Before starting things out....
I know I swung by Behind the Steel Curtain and said this, but it’s awesome that the Packers are playing the Steelers for it all. Really there aren’t many AFC teams that could have the tradition and class as an organization to make this a cool game, especially following up beating the Bears in the NFC Championship, but the Steelers are definitely in that group. I also think the teams match up pretty well as well.
Here’s hoping that we have a good conversation here and great game in about two weeks!
Totally Agree.
I also think it’s a nice slap in the face to Roger Goodell, On Sunday all 4 teams proved that no matter what rules are put in place, defense still wins championships. On top of that we are all outdoor, cold weather teams, snuffing his “Dome is home” crap for the Superbowl.
I can’t wait for this game!
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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Jan 25, 2011 9:42 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This ^
+1
He and Jerry Jones must be losing it. Two ‘unsexy’ franchises that just go out there and execute… the anti-Cowboys. I love it.
2010 NFC Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.
agree
both are anti-Cowboys.
If there is one team I respect outside of Packers, it is the Steelers.
You guys are alot better than most people.
All the other fans (well mainly AFC guys) just hate the Steelers because of constant beatdowns.
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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Jan 25, 2011 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
Don't worry, you won't get that from us
There won’t be any beatdown on the Pack! ; ) Thanks for stopping by man. It’s early, but heck, if this gets lost in a week, start up another one next week. We have 2 weeks to talk about this game. Unless you want to discuss a Packerless and Steelerless Pro Bowl…..
"Vikings fall 27-13 to the NFC North's best team, the Bears."
-Chris Gates 11/15/2010
***Really Chris, REALLY?! The division's best team?! LOL! That's quality DN writing right there!
NFC Champs baby, Go Pack Go! It's time to bring the Lombardi Trophy home!!!!!!
by Jabooty on Jan 25, 2011 3:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Just keep it rec'd
And it’ll last through the SB.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Loving this
All Goodell’s pretty boys failed him. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and his redeemed child Michael Vick. Defensive teams made the conference titles, and every game was a defensive struggle.
Excuse my language, but Fuck you Roger Goodell. This is real football right here. Two of the most heralded franchises in history, each with smashmouth, cold weather, old school approaches, proving to you that you cannot kill football with your high scoring, flashy, let the Quarterbacks jersey stay clean all day shit.
This will be one of the best Superbowls in recent memory, and the Packers and Steelers are going to punch you right in your dentures.
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by Michael Hewitt on Jan 26, 2011 1:14 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Language appreciated...
Pittsburgh and GB represent the champions of the hardest hitting ‘black and blue’ divisions in football. Two weeks will allow both teams the time needed to recover completely from their last MMA-like football matches.
lol wow that was random
ANZAC stands for “Australia and New Zealand Army Corps”. Its the single banner that we fought under back in World War I. April 25th we have a holiday called Anzac Day, commemorating the stand our soldiers made and the sacrifices lost
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by Michael Hewitt on Jan 29, 2011 4:17 PM CST up reply actions
Is it true that Mel Gibson lost a friend at Gallipoli?
’Cause I saw a movie about it and I know Mel Gibson only reports The Facts
53 Bears, 1 Cup
by I voted for Kodos on Jan 30, 2011 1:24 AM CST up reply actions
Everyone lost a friend at Gallipoli...
That ranks amongst the biggest blunders in military history.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jan 30, 2011 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
Great game ahead of us
I am looking forward to the game in Dallas. Two teams with great defences. Their offences led by two great QBs. I wasn’t ready to call Rodgers great till I saw him get up, dust himself off and keep playing after the first td against the Bears on Sunday. That took a lot of toughness and character. I already knew he had a lot of skill.
btw. There is a great analysis of the NFL defences for 2010 over on BTSC. John Stephens has done an excellent job, imo, of giving a more meaningful analysis of what it takes to be a great defence.
I think you might enjoy it.
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Tommy Douglas
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 25, 2011 12:09 PM CST reply actions
Yeah, once that dumb dumb fixed all his copy paste errors. Thanks COSF
by John Stephens on Jan 25, 2011 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
Wow
That’s some quality analysis! Too long and too complicated for the dumbed-down world of ESPN but that’s the kind of stuff I look for. I’d always wanted more academic/intelligent analysis but it’s really hard to find that kind of thing for football fans.
Three times in my life (b. 1978) I’ve watched teams play some seriously stifling defense and said to myself, “That team is going to win the Super Bowl.” That was Baltimore in 2000, and Pittsburgh in 2008 and this last year. I hope I’m wrong this time around.
53 Bears, 1 Cup
by I voted for Kodos on Jan 26, 2011 12:46 AM CST up reply actions
Have you read anything at the SB Nation Missouri blog Rock M Nation?
They do some really cool advanced stats based on two concepts – success rate and points per play. It can be very revealing in getting at aspects of defense (and offense) that might not otherwise jump off the page.
by Cheeseandcorn on Jan 28, 2011 7:49 AM CST up reply actions
No
I will take a look at it when I get some time. Thank you.
by John Stephens on Jan 28, 2011 8:18 AM CST up reply actions
To be more clear.
Is that the model for a game plan or was it just an off game?
by Zorakathura on Jan 25, 2011 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
Both to be honest.
Our entire team played terrible for most of that game, which obviously contributed to us getting our asses handed to us. So that was probably why we got beaten.
However we know that our D struggles against a West Coast style of offense because we aim to take away the run game and the big play. Due to this a team utilising short passes with a great QB can move the ball effectively against us, I say great QB because normally a mediocre QB makes enough mistakes to allow us to limit their scoring, see Flacco, Joe.
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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Jan 25, 2011 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
When we played the Steelers
They definitely stopped the run, but as Josh mentions, Brees was able to gain yards with short passes. If Rodgers has an accurate game and gets the ball off quick it can exploit the Steelers D. But that won’t be enough. Your D will have to play lights out to keep the Steelers offense in check.
This is going to be a heck of a game.
I like Hamburgers!
This is what worries me
Last year we had a shootout, and we had an offense that featured a lot of quick passes. This year we have more vertical passing routes and it seems like Rodgers waits for the play to develop. This is a concern I have and I hope McCarthy adjusts to this, recognizing that beating the Steelers will have to be through mostly quick passes.
"Vikings fall 27-13 to the NFC North's best team, the Bears."
-Chris Gates 11/15/2010
***Really Chris, REALLY?! The division's best team?! LOL! That's quality DN writing right there!
NFC Champs baby, Go Pack Go! It's time to bring the Lombardi Trophy home!!!!!!
The bad part
is that Rodgers has the skill set to make the adjustments work.
"I don't mind being a symbol but I don't want to become a monument. There are monuments all over the Parliament Buildings and I've seen what the pigeons do to them."
"Canada is like an old cow. The West feeds it. Ontario and Quebec milk it. And you can well imagine what it's doing in the Maritimes."
Tommy Douglas
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 30, 2011 1:11 AM CST up reply actions
No, the bad part
from my perspective, at least, is out o-line is 80% mediocre, and will almost certainly be handled by your DL and OLBs, and offenses can’t function very well without at least surviving the battle up front.
53 Bears, 1 Cup
by I voted for Kodos on Jan 30, 2011 1:26 AM CST up reply actions
Both teams
Both QBs will be scrambling for their lives at times.
"I don't mind being a symbol but I don't want to become a monument. There are monuments all over the Parliament Buildings and I've seen what the pigeons do to them."
"Canada is like an old cow. The West feeds it. Ontario and Quebec milk it. And you can well imagine what it's doing in the Maritimes."
Tommy Douglas
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 30, 2011 1:43 AM CST up reply actions
I worry about our OL too, but we did fare pretty well last season and not a whole lot has changed so hopefully we’ll do ok. Pittsburgh seems to give you the underneath stuff too, so hopefully the game plan will involve Rodgers getting the ball out quick.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Jan 30, 2011 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
eh…I think we were especially vulnerable with them because they have 2 pretty solid TEs and some good pass catching RBs. Teams with strong WRs haven’t performed all that great against us, our corners can hold their own with anyone (just ask Roddy White). Teams with strong receiving RBs and TEs give us troubles. Just look at what Forte did last week. He was almost the only guy that touched the ball for the Bears.
The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010
My first question for this thread
Who is the nickel and dime backs for the Steelers and how do you think they would match up with James Jones and Jordy Nelson?
Willie Gay is our nickel, and he is a very good nickel backer. He matches up well with both of those players, but less so with Nelson who is a touch taller than Gay should be matched up with.
Dime back is Madison who I really see as average, in every sense of the word. He just does his job and doesn’t mess up too bad. He can handle most 4th WR’s well enough.
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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Jan 25, 2011 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
Madison
is probably below average actually…he’s the dime back because Kenaan Lewis is either still too raw or just plain sucks (likely).
A 4 or 5 receiver set can be especially deadly against our defense, assuming the QB has time to throw.
I would like to see Crezdon Butler dress for this contest
Especially if Will Allen can’t go.
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I've been calling for his name all year
over Kenaan Lewis…
I really don’t see how he could do any worse.
Keenan Lewis...
That guy just seems like an emotion machine. I can’t imagine what they could have seen in him over Joe Burnett…
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speed?
"I don't mind being a symbol but I don't want to become a monument. There are monuments all over the Parliament Buildings and I've seen what the pigeons do to them."
"Canada is like an old cow. The West feeds it. Ontario and Quebec milk it. And you can well imagine what it's doing in the Maritimes."
Tommy Douglas
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 30, 2011 1:12 AM CST up reply actions
Neither Willy Gay nor B-Mac have world beating speed...
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i agree
I am just saying they kept Lewis because he has speed. If he develops then it may have been worth it. Otherwise they draft a new CB this year.
"I don't mind being a symbol but I don't want to become a monument. There are monuments all over the Parliament Buildings and I've seen what the pigeons do to them."
"Canada is like an old cow. The West feeds it. Ontario and Quebec milk it. And you can well imagine what it's doing in the Maritimes."
Tommy Douglas
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 30, 2011 2:25 AM CST up reply actions
I swear to your god that if
Lewis gets another blatant after-the-whistle personal foul penalty, and the Iron Mike doesn’t fire him, I’m gonna punch a Browns fan.
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lol
"I don't mind being a symbol but I don't want to become a monument. There are monuments all over the Parliament Buildings and I've seen what the pigeons do to them."
"Canada is like an old cow. The West feeds it. Ontario and Quebec milk it. And you can well imagine what it's doing in the Maritimes."
Tommy Douglas
by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 2, 2011 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
Me too
I really think we stuffed up letting Burnett go instead of Lewis. Burnett at least saw the playing field
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by Michael Hewitt on Jan 26, 2011 1:25 AM CST up reply actions
I t hink Burnett had the same problem Lewis did
He sucked on ST
by John Stephens on Jan 26, 2011 6:15 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, but he showed some promise, especially in pre season. He gets a lot of shit for dropping that INT against Oakland, but hell at least he got in a position to make the play
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by Michael Hewitt on Jan 26, 2011 6:16 PM CST up reply actions
I really hope Will Allen can go
He is important to our STs
by John Stephens on Jan 26, 2011 6:16 AM CST up reply actions
Then deactivate Keenan
My skin crawls whenever Lewis is out on the field. I keep waiting for the penalty flag, or for him to get turned into a biscuit. Like shleeve said, Butler can’t be worse than Lewis.
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by Steel Spike on Jan 26, 2011 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
I'm beginning to believe Lewis
Has the same problem as Sweed. Has the physical skill set, but he just doesn’t get it mentally. I think if we draft a CB, he will be on the outside looking in this off season and likely cut.
I’ve kept an eye on his ST recently and he plain out sucks there too.
by John Stephens on Jan 26, 2011 6:14 AM CST up reply actions
It should be the most watched SB ever
It’s like the anticipation of a great movie that finally made it post production. History is waiting for a Packers -Steelers SB, and what a game it should be. Two great offenses AND great defenses EACH playing at a high level butting heads in one ultimate game. Where else do you see a matchup like that?
Is it Sunday yet? is it February yet?
by Rodgers_for_MVP on Jan 25, 2011 1:12 PM CST reply actions
...
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Where? To Dallas?
these things can go south quickly
"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."
Why in the world are we playing in Mexico?!
"Vikings fall 27-13 to the NFC North's best team, the Bears."
-Chris Gates 11/15/2010
***Really Chris, REALLY?! The division's best team?! LOL! That's quality DN writing right there!
NFC Champs baby, Go Pack Go! It's time to bring the Lombardi Trophy home!!!!!!
No wonder why some Cowboy fans are such asses....
"Vikings fall 27-13 to the NFC North's best team, the Bears."
-Chris Gates 11/15/2010
***Really Chris, REALLY?! The division's best team?! LOL! That's quality DN writing right there!
NFC Champs baby, Go Pack Go! It's time to bring the Lombardi Trophy home!!!!!!
They also like the Raiders
Aka: Los Malosos. lmao.
2010 NFC Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.
Theres also lots of tequila down there
I like
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by Michael Hewitt on Jan 26, 2011 1:16 AM CST up reply actions
Congrats...
on winning the AFC championship. My nephew is a die hard Steelers fan by the way and his mother (My Sister) is Packers fan could get interesting. I’m expecting the best Superbowl ever. Seeing the Pack has never lost by more than 4 points all season should prove this. Can’t Wait!!
Since both teams play outdoors on grass how do you think your secondary defends our fast recievers on an artifcial surface in a controlled enviroment ?
Well whatever speed you guys have at WR, we can match it with our WR’s.
As far as our secondary goes, Ike is probably the fastest CB in the league, so I don’t worry about that side of the field. Troy is obviously very fast also, so may stop in coverage for the SB. The other CB’s aren’t slow, but are hardly burners.
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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Jan 26, 2011 1:55 AM CST up reply actions
Man, I had no idea Ike Taylor was that fast
A 4.33s 40 time? I always thought of him as more a physical CB along the lines of Al Harris.
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
hes both
fast, physical, and a good tackler, just has bad hands (but getting better). Hes probably one of the most under rated DBs in the league
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by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Jan 26, 2011 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=7017
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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Jan 26, 2011 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
you guys that don't know how fast Ike is should read this
4.33 isn’t his fastest time…
Dude is ridiculously fast.
Yeah and Sam Shields is faster...
Whats your point? Doesn’t prove he’s a good CB! Hell Al Harris prolly didn’t run a 4.7 but he still made the Pro Bowl… Not sayin Taylor isn’t fast or a good CB, but it shows nothing. And for you to use it as an argument is ridiculous…
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
We never used it as an argument, a Packer fan said he never knew Ike ran a 4.33, we were correcting him because he ran a 4.18.
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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Jan 27, 2011 4:37 AM CST up reply actions
All that was said
Is that Taylor was their fastest CB, something that I commented I wasn’t aware of.
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
whoah, arguement?
I was arguing?
Welp, guess I lost….I didn’t know I was in an argument.
Calm down sir,
We were having a discussion on how fast Ike was (not whether or not he is a good CB, though he is, or whether or not there is a faster Packer). Some GB fans were curious as to his speed and I simply suggested they should read that link.
A man near 30 yrs old running his fastest 40 time is impressive.
Good, good, you catch on fast!
Now let’s get this ball rolling ….
shleeve, what’s your point? Just because I replied to your comment doesn’t mean that Pittsburgh has a better secondary!!!! That’s such a ridiculous claim on your part
now hold on there
look, just because you replied to my reply doesn’t mean that Pittsburgh’s special teams isn’t better! I mean, clearly, we produce way better steel structures then you do therefore Tomlin has a higher IQ then McCarthy.
You're a towel!
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by Steel Spike on Jan 28, 2011 11:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
No, just stop and THINK for a moment
You’re all a bunch of washcloths!!! Towel wannabes . . .
53 Bears, 1 Cup
by I voted for Kodos on Jan 29, 2011 9:44 AM CST up reply actions
Holy crap indeed.
I thought the same thing!
Closet Steelers Fan
My earliest memories of even being aware of football, before my family moved to Wisconsin, include being a fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers. I remember that my older brother liked the Cowboys and I liked the Steelers. I have no idea why. I would draw their logo over and over.
Later on, I finally saw the light and became a Packer fan. But you cannot shake early childhood fandom, no matter how irrational it was. I certainly do not have any conflict about who I want to win — it’s the Packers all the way. Instead, this just makes it all the more exciting to me to see these two teams meet in the Super Bowl.
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I guess I'll be the only one to point out
that Jay Cutler didn’t take himself out of the game.
"I don't know how a guy gets single covered in that situation when you're dropping eight men," Tony Dungy, 12/20/09
true.
but he certainly kept himself out of it.
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by threadkiller on Jan 25, 2011 6:33 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
were you there?
I can’t believe I’m defending a BEAR. Seriously, do you really know what happened? What the coaches told him, or medical staff? What he said to them? I disagree with his body language, he sure lookedlike a quitter, but to say he pulled himself and kept himself from the game without knowing is just flaming the man, unless you know something I (we) don’t?
"I don't know how a guy gets single covered in that situation when you're dropping eight men," Tony Dungy, 12/20/09
i can't believe you're defending him, either.
glad i’m the d.a. in this one. :-) if he wanted to be in the game, do you really think he wouldn’t have been? players are going back into the game all the time with injuries they never let on about. a sprained mcl is painful, i’m sure, but don’t let on that the bears made him sit on the bench.
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by threadkiller on Jan 25, 2011 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
I've been through an MCL sprain
Happened in the middle of a game of the other football. I took a routine cut left and my knee went “pop!” and I hit the turf. As the play was happening on the other side of the pitch (as it often was – I played right forward, and we weren’t very good), I kinda sat there for a minute and then got up and hopped over to the sideline. As I was sitting on the bench, I started carefully flexing my knee. The pain subsided and things felt mostly normal. Maybe a little loose, but not like I was seriously injured, so I stood and even jogged a bit in a straight line – all good.
So I waited for the next whistle and put myself back in. I was out there for about two minutes before I made another cut. Guess what? Same “pop!”, same quick trip to the ground. I took myself out for the rest of the game – no way I could play if I couldn’t make a play so routine.
That same “pop!” happened to Cutler, only it happened on his plant leg, and he tried to go out there again and play on it. One plant, one throw (incomplete), and I’m sure it was as obvious to him that he couldn’t play anymore as it was to me mumble years ago. Sure, you can walk on it, or ride the bike, but the moment you try to make a lateral move that the MCL is supposed to contain, you are reminded that you’re hurt in a not so nice way.
The major issue I think people had was that he looked so disinterested afterward. He sat by himself – he wasn’t chatting with his backup(s), nor did he grab a clipboard, or throw on a headset. It was like he was saying, “Well, if I can’t play, then I just don’t care about this game anymore.” Whether that’s true or not, his previous aloofness helped people believe it. And that’s why you engage the media as if they were the fans and not a necessary evil – because when they crucify you, fairly or unfairly, others are gonna believe ‘em. And then they’ll see your game-ending injury as you having no guts and your anguished inability to look your teammates in the eyes after failing them as you having no heart.
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Actually the showed Cutler talking to Hanie
Going over some photo stuff, formations, etc… So he helped hanie a little anyway. We don’t know how much he helped if it was after every series, or only the once!
As far as the MCL, everthing you said is spot on to what I learned in Athletic Training classes. Your fine moving straight, but can’t make any sudden cuts on that knee. Obviously I can’t stand Cutler, but I’m not bashing him for not being able to play!
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by blackoutsox on Jan 25, 2011 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
Another good reason why players should use Twitter!
This was completely blown out of proportion, and a big factor was players going on Twitter before they had an idea of what was going on.
Negative Personality....
This is why Cutler got crucified…fairly or unfairly. Frankly, I couldn’t care one way or the other if he was able to play or not. His apathy for the fans and media both attributed to the criticism. His “its not my fault” attitude during games when things go south also added to it. Simply put, he gets no respect from the fans or fellow players. His team defended him (they’re supposed to), but he’s not a leader in Chicago.
I feel bad for him, but I can understand why people immediately questioned his integrity to the game.
by pvilleWI on Jan 26, 2011 7:23 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think Cutler is getting a raw deal
The only reason I know a thing about Cutler is because I live in Nashville and he went to Vanderbilt…. that aside; think about the total assholes tweeting from their couch about a player’s injury… whaaat?! Please… we know a little something about this… game 2 Dennis Dixon gets hurt (knee) in the TN game… all of a sudden Charlie Batch is out there. I didn’t see Dixon get hurt, but it sure doesn’t mean he didn’t and could have played with the injury.
I’m more pissed that MJD and some of the other yahoo’s that didn’t win shit can sit there and say anything about another players injury. Deion Sanders can keep his comments to himself too… what a jag off. I can’t think of a single Cowboy that I like even after they retire…..
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It's funny to hear Deion Sanders call someone out for not being tough enough
because everyone knows that Deion was one of the least tough players in NFL history that wasn’t a placekicker. Great in coverage, but he might as well have been wearing a tutu the way he played the run.
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by I voted for Kodos on Jan 26, 2011 12:56 AM CST up reply actions
I believe it was Deion Sanders
Who coined the phrase “career move” when asked by a reporter why he chose to daintily step out of bounds (rather than lower the shoulder) while being threatened with a tackle after a pick.
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My POV
If you can stand and walk around, you can still play QB. Phillip Rivers did it on a torn knee. Its the NFC Championship of all things. Shotgun plays take the pressure off and his arm was still ok to throw. Him with a buggered knee still offered Chicago the best chance at winning that game, regardless of Hanies late game heroics
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by Michael Hewitt on Jan 26, 2011 1:24 AM CST up reply actions
His arm: yes
The knee on his plant leg: no. Have you ever tossed around the pigskin? Ever told a buddy to “go deep”? Think about your body’s configuration when you’re lining up that deep pass; think about your various limbs – where does the power come from? Hint: It ain’t your arm.
Cutler with full mobility got knocked around back there. Cutler with no mobility, hoping to make pass plays with no power? I have no love for the guy, but that doesn’t mean I wanna see BJ Raji using his pants to wipe overly-sweet blood off his helmet.
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My point was more
It didnt stop Phillip Rivers playing and his knee injury was worse. I know that power comes mainly from legs on a deep pass play. I’m just not convinced he tried his best to get back out there on the field
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by Michael Hewitt on Jan 26, 2011 4:17 AM CST up reply actions
We all know
the two situations were different, Rivers having a brace and more practice time with his knee. He also knew about the injury and accepted playing with it ahead of time, it didn’t just happen and he had to make a decision.
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Worse...
Is a relative term… What was Rivers injury? Don’t know, but which ligament did he injure? Some make it harder to throw w/ than others… SOme you can wear a brace for, others a brace doesn’t help!
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He tore his ACL I believe. But, from my understanding, Rivers tore it in a game, and then sat the rest of that game out. He played in the game the next week (which I think was the AFC Championship). If I’m correct about the circumstances, there obviously very different. Rivers was probably all hopped up on all sorts of pain killers and things. Cutler didn’t really have that opportunity.
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by packallday555 on Jan 26, 2011 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
ACL
See that is an easier injury for a QB to play with… An ACL you put a brace on it and it prevents the movement that the ACL does. However and MCL is harder cuz of having to plant and shuffle your feet. Any type of sideways movement of a leg can cause the MCL to buckle and give way. So, IMO, the ACL is easier to play with given a knee brace, but those braces aren’t as effective for MCL injuries… Thats just my take from my knowledge if the injuries which is pretty good. No Dr. tho…
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Rivers was also pretty awful against NE that day, ruining a great performance from the San Diego defense IIRC
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by LV Steelers Fan on Jan 26, 2011 3:01 PM CST up reply actions
19/37, 211 yards, 2 INT
Not a good day.
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Not sure if you have seen Ben play
But he is a tad tougher than Cutler (sarcastic emphasis on tad).
by John Stephens on Jan 26, 2011 6:19 AM CST up reply actions
I think Cutler is getting this crap because he’s always had the attitude of “I don’t care what you think about me” which tends to breed haters. Honestly, while he probably doesn’t deserve it in this situation as a tear in your MCL is pretty serious, he’s been asking for it with his douchey behavior for quite some time. He doesn’t care what people think and they don’t care about defending him. When you treat people like that and act like you don’t give a hoot…that is what you get back.
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I totally agree Trevor
I’m just pointing out that the distinction between him being physically unable to play and “defend himself” as Coach Smith put it, and taking yourself or keeping yourself from playing are very different things and one should not report falsities without real knowledge.
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by PackaCracka on Jan 27, 2011 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
Question for Steelers fans:
What’s the State of the Offensive Line? Run-blocking, pass-blocking, and injury-wise? I hear that Pouncey will play, but who are your tackles? Do they communicate well? Because Capers likes to mix it up and send a corner here and there.
Also, if you’ve watched a lot of Packers games this year you’ve probably noticed that Charles Woodson has taken on a Troy Polamalu-like role on the Packers D. Woodson also plays the run well, forces many fumbles, and is pass defense is still pretty good. How well do your ILBs and Ryan Clark cover the pass?
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by I voted for Kodos on Jan 26, 2011 1:01 AM CST reply actions
Our tackles are currently Jonathan Scott on the Left, and ex Dallas Cowboy Flozell Adams on the right.
Jonathan Scott is up and down. Some times he is downright terrible against the pass, but against the Jets he held his own pretty well. He gets help in the run blocking game from Kemoeatu.
Flozell is average against the pass, but a good run blocker. Most of our success comes from his side. We are an inside running team though, so we rely on Pouncey and Kemo as guards.
Timmons is great in coverage most of the time with terrific closing speed. However, Troy will likely roam, and Clark will handle the over the top coverage most of the time. William Gay is a good nickel back as we have had in recent times and he will be on the field a lot against 3 WR sets.
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by Michael Hewitt on Jan 26, 2011 1:20 AM CST up reply actions
James Farrior is also very good in coverage
He is a savvy veteran that knows the ins and outs of covering checkdowns and the middle. He is a tad slower than Timmons though, but that hasn’t been as noticeable this year as it was last year.
by John Stephens on Jan 26, 2011 6:22 AM CST up reply actions
Man how old is FLozell these days? He’s GOT to be getting up there!
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but James Farrior and Charlie Batch still beat him out by 1 year lol, But the old Hotel still gets it done, probably our 2nd best linemen.
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by H-burgSTEELfanatic on Jan 26, 2011 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
Another question for Steelers fans:
How’s your kick return squad? ‘Cause our coverage stinks! We seem to have learned how to punt and cover pretty well, but we struggled with that earlier in the season and it wouldn’t shock me to see us regress on a play or two.
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by I voted for Kodos on Jan 26, 2011 1:11 AM CST reply actions
We seem to have come to an accord
That the day will not be saved by a good ST play from either side. In short, I think we both stink equally. Feel free to correct me on this, Steelers fans.
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Our ST isnt anything to get excited about
Our coverage has improved considerably from last years awful squad, and as for our return game, Antonio Brown provides quite a lot of spark on kickoff returns, but we prefer to use the low risk – low reward qualities of Randle El on punts.
Put this way, if Special Teams makes a huge play in this game, I’ll likely need to change my pants
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by Michael Hewitt on Jan 26, 2011 1:22 AM CST up reply actions
judging by what I saw from the Steelers in the playoffs we have pretty comparable ST units. You guys were kicking away from the jets return guys just like we were. haha pretty funny how both these units are pretty bad and yet here we both are, in the super bowl.
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Poor special teams
is usually a killer, but when you have an offense and defense like the Steelers and Packers you can overcome it.
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by I voted for Kodos on Jan 26, 2011 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
Even last year.
NO and Indy had some pretty poor ST play! So I just don’t see ST play as being the deciding factor as much as most fans do. A big return can change a game, but even w/ poor ST play, a return for a TD only happens once every 4-6 games at most! Don’t get me wrong, they can decide games, but its not as common as most fans think!
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I actually for shits and giggles
Plotted FO’s ST DVOA (holy acronyms Batman!) against team wins for the past 4 years (I think it was 4 years), and there’s absolutely no correlation between those numbers. So I totally agree Stroh. While ST can be important, their impact of a team’s season is nebulous at best when compared to offense and defense.
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In the Atlanta playoff game
I remember either the commentators or in the post game someone saying it was the 7th straight playoff game were a team that ran a punt or kickoff back for touchdown lost the game. So yeah, I agree that it is not as important as many think.
I wonder if that goes back to Desmond Howard?
return TDs aren’t all that common, I suppose it is possible.
The 2010 Chargers would probably disagree
And the 2000 Ravens would have pitched a Super Bowl shutout if they hadn’t given up a kick return.
Also, the teams that are winning will be kicking off more often, so the number of kicks returned for TD will skew a bit in favor of the loser. And teams that are far ahead are more likely to just punt the hell out of it, rather than play for coverage and give the other team a short field.
It’s not the end-all, be-all, but special teams is very important. This question will probably come as close as I can get to “proving” my argument: Does anyone here think the Bears would have won the North division without their stellar special teams play?
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by I voted for Kodos on Jan 28, 2011 5:19 PM CST up reply actions
I think the field position aspect of it is more important
than returning a kick or punt for a TD. The Bears had the best starting field position in the league so I definitely agree that their special teams was a large part of why they won the NFC North especially considering their offense was not very good. In the last two games against the bears field Position played a big part in the Packers winning. Containing Hester and have quite a few punts be downed inside the 10 yard line was crucial to the wins. So, for the most part I can understand and agree with what your saying. I just think controlling the field position is more important on special teams in the playoffs than breaking a play for a touchdown (not that it couldn’t help though).
^This^
I don’t recall saying anywhere that a kick had to be returned for a TD to be significant.
I guess I’ll use this post to emphasize that special teams is very important and can really help or hurt a team, but that most of the time it factors into field position, not directly to points. Is that better?
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by I voted for Kodos on Jan 28, 2011 10:14 PM CST up reply actions
NO Saints special teams
weren’t really bad. They had a terrible average per punt return, but coming off a season with 3 TDs on punt returns I’d say it’s safe to say they got some good field position out of teams kicking high and short or out of bounds. Courtney Roby averaged 27.5 per kick return. That adds up to pretty good field position. It doesn’t have to be a TD to count, you know.
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by I voted for Kodos on Jan 28, 2011 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
Poor special teams isnt always a killer, more just a buzz kill
But an awful special teams (ala Chargers) will doom you
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by Michael Hewitt on Jan 26, 2011 6:19 PM CST up reply actions
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glad to see all of the action is civil. most of the post i read last week was garbage coming from the bears fans. question? what can the packers do to exploit what weakness the steelers have
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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Jan 26, 2011 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
On Defense, SACK BEN, if you don’t you’re screwed.
That’s what scares me. I think we’ll be able to get to Ben but I don’t know if we’ll be able to finish when we get there.
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by packallday555 on Jan 26, 2011 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, you'll get to Ben
He was dropped for a sack 32 times during the twelve games he played (the two sacks that the Browns racked up during our last game were against Byron Leftwich, our second stringer) and I have no doubt that your D will drag him down to the ground a few times. The only time he managed to avoid a sack was during his first game back, against the Browns in week 5; I have no illusions that will happen with you guys.
The Ravens sacked him 6 times in the Divisional playoff game and a less talented escape artist would have gone down a few more times. We still won. So even if you catch him a few times that in itself will not be enough. If your blitzers can’t wrestle him down and he starts rolling to the right… he’ll burn you big time. I never cease to be amazed by how such a big fellow can be so slippery in the backfield.
He’s no Michael Vick, but you’d be surprised how many 1st downs he has picked up when he has to flee for his life or just bolts after pump faking a few times.
I can’t say that I’ve seen many Packers games, so please excuse my ignorance, but how mobile is AR? I always heard that he takes a lot of sacks. Ben is mobile but he takes a lot of sacks by refusing to throw the ball away like Brady or Peyton would do, so its not always the fault of our O line. What’s the story for you guys?
The stats kinda give some creedence to this...
In the regular season, Big Ben was sacked 43 times while getting hit 78. In the post season, 8 sacks with 9 hits. I think the case is that you can get to Big Ben, but what you do after that is still a mystery. I think this is a good instance where hopefully our bigger interior guys can bring him down with him taking heat from the OLB’s.
As for Rodgers, he will run when pressured. He does take sacks (38 this year, last year was bad), but I think he has learned that you can throw the ball away with this team and still have a chance to make a play on the next one. Last year, he seemed to want to hold the ball until the last second to make a play downfield.
by Bush League All Star on Jan 26, 2011 5:43 PM CST up reply actions
Actually, Ben was sacked 32 times
We played 4 QBs during the regular season (four!) Remember that Ben was out due to suspension from Games 1 to 4, and then he sat out of the last third of the plays against the Browns in Game 16. In total our QBs were sacked 43 times, but Ben himself went down 32 times.
But I appreciate your response on Rodgers.
BushLAS did not do AR complete justice
He is the second best running QB in the league behind Michael Vick. He actually had the third most yards, but he was barely edged by Josh Freeman who played 1.5 more games than Rodgers. He is very slippery both in and out of the pocket. His sack total (31 for the regular season) is pretty average, much better than last year when he often got caught holding the ball too long. He hardly ever fumbles, only 4 fumbles this year and lost only 1 of them.
Add his running game on top of the third best QB rating and sixth best completion percentage, and I think the Steelers will have their hands full with the Green Bay Offense.
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I didn't know that about Rodgers
Well, it certainly sounds as if we both have QBs who are challenging to pull down, but also tend to take sacks due to a desire to extend the play. Looks like we’ve got something in common, then.
Thanks for the info.
How does the empty set (4 or 5 WRs) work out for you guys? It gives several of my BTSC brethen fits when they see Ben standing alone back there, but I broke down the numbers on Ben’s performance out of the empties this year and it’s actually been pretty succesful for us.
by Chileburger on Jan 27, 2011 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
I meant "BTSC brethren" by the way
Sure wish these boards had an edit function…
by Chileburger on Jan 27, 2011 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
They normally seem to work out pretty well for us. It often scares me to see him in 5 WR sets because of the same reason you mentioned above, but when you have a guy who is as good at reading defenses and going through progressions as Rodgers is, it can be a big advantage to come out in those sets.
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by packallday555 on Jan 27, 2011 2:28 PM CST up reply actions
I respect the GB offence
and I especially respect AR. The fact that he was able and willing to keep playing after that hit on his td run against the Bears told me a lot about his character and competitiveness. I think it will be a good game.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 30, 2011 1:26 AM CST up reply actions
amazed by how such a big fellow can be so slippery
See I don’t see Ben as being slippery at all. He doesn’t get away from sacks by being slippery, he gets away from sacks by being the strongest QB in the NFL. One guy can get his hands on Ben, but they don’t usually bring him down by themselves. Ben is a QB that uses his size and strength to break tackles/sacks and extend plays! Rodgers is more the slippery QB who avoids sacks and hits altogther! Ben is a big strong kid that doesn’t go down easily, but he does get hit alot and still breaks the tackle to extend the play!!
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Strong and slippery, then!
Well, you are right, of course, that he avoids a lot of sacks through sheer strength. For my money, the most spectacular was against the Ravens in Game 12 when he fought off Suggs and managed to throw the ball away, avoiding the sack. That was a result of his strength, most definately.
But he is also slippery. Several times during the year we’ve seen him surrounded by 2 or even 3 defenders and we moan “he’s toast,” but someone he manages to slip away underneath their arms.
Either way, it’s pretty amazing. We always say at BTSC that a QB like Brady or Peyton would get killed behind our line. Ben still manages to thrive.
He’s very mobile. In my opinion, he’s probably the second best scrambling Qb in the league to Vick. He did take quite a few sacks last season but the majority of his sacks resulted in just poor offensive line play. It’s obvious to me that this year his pocket presence is much better also. The way he’s able to maneuver around the pocket some plays is nothing short of amazing. Though, it’ll be interesting to see if he’s able to run away from or put a move on either of your OLB’s as opposed to the 4-3 DE’s.
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by packallday555 on Jan 27, 2011 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
Mr. Harrison and Mr. Woodley
I suspect that you guys are just as proud of your LB corps as we are, and I don’t want to come off as a blind homer or anything, but those OLBs would be Mr. James Harrison and Mr. LaMarr Woodley and they are nothing short of spectacular. Add to them Mr. Farrior and Mr. Timmons and that gives us the best foursome in the league in my opinion.
I expect that they will make Rodgers put the impressive scrambling talents that you mention to the test.
I saw in another post on your site that your contributor feels that your DL is better than ours, and appears to cite sack totals as part of his support for that opinion. I’m not an expert on your line so I can’t call it one way or another, but in our scheme the DLmen aren’t SUPPOSED to be getting sacks… its not “their job” so to speak. The fact that they have been getting them lately is actually something that should worry your OC.
Well, its all wordplay from me anyway. But there is one thing that I am completely, totally, absolutely sure of…
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DL and LB
It’s no secret that the Steelers have the best LB’s in the NFL. They are all good, especially the combo of Woodley and Harrison.
As for DL, yeah, I’ll definately take ours because they can do either: occupy blockers or rush the passer. The thing is, they do both. They are asked to occupy blockers, take on double teams (Raji and Jenkins), yet they still reach the QB. The DL really gets the job done for us, and it’s a big reason why we are so successfull in generating sacks and pressure.
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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Jan 29, 2011 5:41 AM CST up reply actions
Crap
They’ve got us there. If only Rodgers stil had his porn ’stache.
But wait – we’ve got the Most Dreaded Secondary! Do dreadlocks count in this at all?
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by I voted for Kodos on Jan 29, 2011 9:47 AM CST up reply actions
Well, throw in your dreads if you want...
But we have a backup TE (David Johnson) who has some pretty respectable dreads.
And we haven’t even mentioned Kemo’s (one of our OLinemen) unruly locks!
So let’s face it, Packer’s fans, I think we’ve got you on the all-important “hair” stat category. (But congrats to Clay for his new shampoo deal! Still, Troy did it first….)
You should actually go over to BTSC and check out three posts by Momma Rollett in which she picks out the most attractive (by looks) members of our respective Off, Def and coaching staff. They’re pretty funny posts.
by Chileburger on Jan 29, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
Okay I concede
but only because you’ve also got the unconventional beauty that is Chris Kemoeatu’s hair
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by I voted for Kodos on Jan 29, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
I'm just glad Roethlisberger cut that quasi-mullet
he was sporting before pre-season…
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Roethlisberger sporting a mullet . . .
Would remind me too much of Ronnie Dobbs, given my mental picture of how he acts when drinking.
Glad he got rid of it.
53 Bears, 1 Cup
by I voted for Kodos on Jan 29, 2011 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
you forgot about Ziggy Hood
he has some nice Dreads as well
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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 30, 2011 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
you would take your DL over ours
seriousley, you are sounding like Jets fans. They said the same thing. I think you forget that the job of 34 DL is to occupy blockers, take on double teams, and put pressure on the QB. Now Raji and Jenkins are very good. That INT that Raji had vs the Bears was pure scheme and athleticism from him.
Hampton takes on 2 blockers, sometimes 3. Hood is commanding double teams as well. And same with Keisel.
We have Isaac Redman.
"Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."
we will see
we have given up tons of garbage running yards, but beyond that, I havent seen a problem with our DL all year, and Raji was the only one who played in every game.
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by blackoutsox on Jan 30, 2011 12:11 AM CST up reply actions
We've got Hank Baskett
Oh, wait, no we don’t.
by Wiedmann on Jan 30, 2011 1:01 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
bahahaha nice!
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Well, our DL isn’t supposed to get sacks either really. That’s probably the reason the contributor cited their sack totals as evidence as to why our DL might be better.
As for your LB corps’, in my opinion, it’s hands down the best in the league. They scare the shit out of me haha.
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by packallday555 on Jan 30, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
I'd say front seven is probably a wash
Maybe a slight edge to the Steelers, but it’s minimal at best.
I’d give the Steelers an edge but yeah, it’s probably pretty close.
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by packallday555 on Jan 30, 2011 6:47 PM CST up reply actions
That's awfully generous
We’ve got a great d-line, but our linebackers as a whole don’t hold a candle to the Steelers. Obviously CM3 is great, and Bishop makes plays, but Hawk is a C+ and our other OLB spot has been filled by a series of capable backups.
And I wouldn’t say that any 3-4 scheme has a DL that isn’t supposed to get sacks. It’s not their primary job, but I doubt LeBeau or Capers get upset when one of them gets to the QB while occupying blockers and playing the run.
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by I voted for Kodos on Jan 30, 2011 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
Hawk is a C+?
I never got why Packer fans are so down on Hawk. Well, actually, I do, they are factoring in his draft position/salary. He is very solid.
The other OLB spot may not be ideal, but with Zombo on running downs & Walden on passing downs, I feel pretty good about it, especially considering they are, what, 5 & 6 on the depth chart?
True but compare Hawk to Timmons and Zombo to Woodley.
Also Harrison is still ahead of Matthews for me.
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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Jan 31, 2011 7:57 AM CST up reply actions
Hampton vs Raji, for now I take Hampton. He’s been doing what BJ has done for 10 times as long.
Kiesel, Hood and Smith are possibly the best 3-4 DE’s in the league, if Smith is out then I give you advantage at DL but as it appears to me that he will play I give the Steelers the advantage again.
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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Jan 31, 2011 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
I don’t know man, Cullen Jenkins is a hell of a player. He never really seems to get much attention but he’s been pretty dominant for a while now. I think he has 8.5 sacks in like 14 games. Though, I’ll concede Smith is probably a bit better than him.
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by packallday555 on Jan 31, 2011 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
C+ or C++
I think these are computer programming languages, but in this case it’s also Hawk’s grade.
I think Hawk is solid, assignment sure (except for the 1,000 times he gets beaten to the edge and overestimates his speed), and dependable. But he’s not very good in coverage – though he’s been better this year, he’s still not good at it, and how much of his improvement can be attributed to the improved pass rush? He does not shed blocks very well, either. If I had to rate Hawk based on draft spot, I’d say C- at best. Not a total bust, but definitely not a playmaker, like Raji, who we got a few picks later in last year’s draft. As stated by Josh Roberts, compare Hawk to Timmons or Farrior and it’s not close.
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by I voted for Kodos on Jan 31, 2011 12:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I am a nerd & thought of C++ as well
I do agree with your criticisms, but I guess I don’t view them as a liability as much as you do. This reminds me of something someone else posted about grading the LBs:
Poppinga: D-
If you saw it, you’d know what I’m talking about., but I’m too lazy to look it up & find it.
Ah, yes
the animal grade post. One of my all-time favorites on APC. Thanks for reminding me of it. For that, sir, you get a “pterodactyl”.
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by I voted for Kodos on Feb 1, 2011 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
Damn
I think that surpasses my Komodo Dragon…
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
Actually
You got a “Komodo Dragon+”, which is a grade so high it is only given on rare occasions.
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by I voted for Kodos on Feb 2, 2011 6:28 PM CST up reply actions
old
I know I am old when I remember a time before C has + after it. Then again I remember teaching myself GML out of an IBM manual.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 2, 2011 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
steelers suck
yes, I did think about that before I posted. and nothing changed my mind
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Yup, suck all the way to the Superbowl :)
Wait… the Packers are in the Superbowl too, right? Does that mean the Packers suck too, by using the transitive property? (hahaha)
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by NYSteelersFan4 on Jan 26, 2011 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
You don't follow requests very well, huh?
I also ask to try to keep it civil, think through what you’re saying before you hit post, these things can go south quickly.
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
ahem
thats why I posted it. I find requests like that annoying. I think the conversation on here is regulated just fine without other fans jumping in.
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So, you think it's out of line that he asked to keep it civil?
Considering the author probably hasn’t posted here frequently how is he to know the reception he will get?
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
haha
What do you want? For him to kiss the Steelers’ ass? Talk about how wonderful their organization is?
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B.J. Raji is My Hero.
No, but I expect an intelligent exchange
The Steelers are in the Superbowl and clearly have one of the best defenses in recent memory. Saying they “suck” is just stupid, ignorant, and a waste of all our of time.
by John Stephens on Jan 26, 2011 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
Hey Stroh ~ It was an MCL sprain... (Maybe a slight tear... : )
I think it’s all BS… Cutler isn’t a wussy… If he could’ve played… He would’ve…!! I played QB for 10 years… Never missed a game… But, I did miss a couple Rugby Matches with a bum knee… If I could’ve played… I would have…!!!! Don’t get me wrong… I think Cutler is a spoiled little kid…, but, I’m sure he wouldn’t quit… I don’t like him… but, don’t think he’s a quitter…
GO PACK GO!!!!
PS: MY BOY GOT A BOX FOR THE SUPER BOWL!!!!! EXPECTING MY TICKET ANYDAY!! : ) DALLAS HERE WE COME!!!! : )
I didn't say Culter was a wussy...
And I also didn’t say he should have kept playing… In fact I never thought he was. The MCL is difficult to play with and really painful. It prevented him from being able to set up and throw properly. Actually think I said an ACL is easier to play w/ if you wear a brace than an MCL… Cutler had the MCL, but Rivers, who was mentioned before me played this year with the ACL… I think you misunderstood or I didn’t explain it very well…
Damn I’m jealous… I’ll enjoy it in GB, but prolly more in AZ… And if I was able I might try to get to Dallas, even if it was just to be around the festivities!!
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
ahhh so many ellipses and exclamation points…don’t know what to do!!!!!!
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by TrevorR on Jan 27, 2011 3:28 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If its not one thing w/ you its another!!!
Its an old subject. Let it die… Your worse than a bitter old woman!!!
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
I can haz
literacy? Not saying I’m perfect, but sometimes this shit is hard to read
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by PackaCracka on Jan 27, 2011 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
What was up with Mendenhall
humping Big Ben at the end of the game?!?
Seriously, congrats on getting to the Super Bowl.
How confindent are you about this game?
I don’t know, but apparently he had to address the situation to the team in the locker room. Talk about awkward!
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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Jan 27, 2011 4:41 AM CST up reply actions
did he say
sorry guys, just fuc%in around? haha
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by PackaCracka on Jan 27, 2011 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
lol
probably. apparently he is the team comedian.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 30, 2011 1:30 AM CST up reply actions
First comment here under this name.
Didnt comment much under my last name but have been lurking for a VERY long time. That being said I’m thinking fate comes into play in this SB. Why do i say this?
Well the last and only team to EVAR win the SB as a #6 seed are the Steelers. And for some wacky reason we are the NFC’s 1st #6 seed to play in the SB, and agianst those same Steelers.
It shall be….wait for it….Legendary!
Sarge Clemins
It sure will! Welcome to the board.
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by packallday555 on Jan 27, 2011 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
I've been watching some highlights and tape...
You guys seem to run a good amount of speed screens on the edge to your receivers. Why? (btw, I love that play)
by Bush League All Star on Jan 27, 2011 4:59 PM CST reply actions
Well, they're like a running play essentially...
And our OC prefers the pass whenever possible, so this is a way to kind of run, and not run.
That and we have a solid open field blocker in Heath Miller, and possibly the best run blocking WR in the game in Hines Ward, so it’s a way to let them do what they do well, besides catch passes of course. The other receivers on the roster are all quick, elusive, speedsters, so it really plays into the strengths of the whole crew.
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by NYSteelersFan4 on Jan 27, 2011 5:12 PM CST up reply actions
(btw, I love that play)
Seriously. Don’t you wish we’d do some of that? All of our guys are so slippery and elusive after the catch. And Jordy could be a pretty good blocker out front too.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Jan 27, 2011 6:09 PM CST up reply actions
Hines Ward
has to really be helpful on that play. Wish we’d run it more with Jennings and Jones. But I’d have to think it’s for the same reason Packers fans are always calling for WR and HB screens. It’s a good counter to an aggressive pass rush.
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by I voted for Kodos on Jan 28, 2011 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
What phase of the Steelers game do you have least confidence in?
I haven’t watched the Steelers much?
Do you have a threat on punt and kick returns?
Is Kapanois (sp?) as bad as he was here?
I love wins. Wins are good for the soul.- Barry Alvarez Sep 25, 2005
Well, I think I can safely say we're all fairly confident in this group as a whole...
But that would be a cop out, so I’ll say kick/ punt coverage, although we’re much better in that area than we were last year. Also, offensive line, especially now with Pouncey looking less and less likely to play. We have a backup starting at LT, a backup at C, a midseason fill in at RG (who was also an undrafted free agent last year), and a preseason free agent signing at RT (although Flozell has far and away exceeded my fairly low expectations for him).
We have a few guys who return kicks and punts. Randle El is our veteran return man. He does quite a bit of fair catching, and in my opinion is very unlikely to actually return anything to the house. Rookie Antonio Brown is electric. He finds seams in coverage units, and while he isn’t necessarily a player who will kill you all the time, he’s a threat to break one at any time, and seems to get a good average on his returns. You could also see Emmanual Sanders or Mewelde Moore returning kicks, the chances are slim to none, but they are options. Our best return man as of now is Antonio Brown.
Kaponos has played really well for us. He hasn’t had any major screw ups, and has done a good job for the most part, unless I missed something. How bad was he for you guys?
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by NYSteelersFan4 on Jan 28, 2011 2:32 PM CST up reply actions
thanks..
Kapinos could just never place one inside the 20. He just seemed to boom them when you didnt need a big kick, then shank it when you needed a big one.
Anyway thanks again for the insight. Should be a real good game!
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No prob, happy to get some good convo going.
Good luck next week (just not too much, haha)
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by NYSteelersFan4 on Jan 28, 2011 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
I don't even know if this is fair to him...
Kaponos has played really well for us. He hasn’t had any major screw ups, and has done a good job for the most part, unless I missed something. How bad was he for you guys?
I thought he was just below average. I didn’t think he had a big leg, shanked a few, and just never really kicked directionally. He probably has learned since then, but he was just average…
by Bush League All Star on Jan 28, 2011 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, he's not blowing anyone away...
But at the same time he hasn’t created a noticable drop off either. He’s servicable, which is more than we could say for Mitch Berger two seasons ago.
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by NYSteelersFan4 on Jan 28, 2011 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, any of you fans from the Madison area?
Spent a little time there back in the day. Nice place, quiet and peaceful. Overall, I enjoyed my time in Wisconsin, short as it was.
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Went to school there..
Also noticed Ubrik(sp?) didnt pan out there..offensive guard..
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He seems to have caught on in Buffalo...
Backup center, rotational guard. Never got a chance to play, and didn’t prove enough to warrant a roster spot in a thin group of linemen this year. Personally, I though we could have used him, but I’m not seeing him practice everyday, you know?
I went to Madison when I was probably 17 or 18 on a 4H trip (farm kid, got any of those in WI, hahaha?). But that was about 8 years ago now (wow, time flies).
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by NYSteelersFan4 on Jan 28, 2011 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
Grew up in Madison, went to UW-Madison
Only left because I needed to try something new after 20+ years there. Nice campus and lots and lots of pretty girls (but also an annoying frat/sorority scene). People tend to be pretty nice in Madison. Schools are pretty good, so if I ever have kids (knock on wood) I’d probably return. And did I mention lots of pretty girls?
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by I voted for Kodos on Jan 28, 2011 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
How about Kewanee?
I have family up there.
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
"It would be tough for me to care less about their opinion, to be honest with you." Mike Tomlin
Grew up an hour and a half away from Madison down I-94/90.
I’ve traveled there for hockey tournaments, Badger football and hockey games, shopping w/ Mom, a day trip just to get out away from home with my parents…yeah. Madison’s a good time.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jan 28, 2011 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
Now, I have nothing against the man or his play
But after reading it so often this week, the name “Pouncey” just sounds weird to me, y’know? It’s like it’s not even a person’s name anymore. To me, it’s the name a $7/hour ventriloquist gives to his least favorite dummy. “Pouncey” – yeah, and it used to be his favorite, too, right after he got it. It was gonna be a big hit at the next birthday party. It was gonna be “Mr. Pouncey” and he would come in to save the day. So right when his main dummy, Mr. Jingles, started mouthing off too badly, he reached behind his seat and said:
“Look kids! It’s Mr. Pouncey!”
“Eh-heh…ehheh…WAAAAAAAH!”
“What’s wrong? Don’t you like Mr. Pouncey?”
“He-he-he’s UGLY! WAAAAAAH!”
“…Well, that’s ok if you don’t like Mr. Pouncey, ‘cuz he’s mean and he treats all the other dummies badly. There’s a lesson here, kids – do you know what that is?”
“D-d-don’t be UGLY like Mr. Pouncey!”
“That’s right, Mr. Pouncey is ugly…he’s very, very ugly, and I don’t understand why I shelled out $300 for him now…”
So now when that poor entertainer looks in Pouncey’s box, all he sees is ugly, ugly, ugly. And kindling for the trash-can fire, since that bitch made him refund the deposit for the party, and that meant he couldn’t make rent last month. Stupid Pouncey…
It could just be me, though.
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by Clutch16 on Jan 29, 2011 12:22 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
I don't know whether to laugh...
Or be perturbed by that. And for that reason, you get a +1.
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B.J. Raji is My Hero.
"It could just be me, though"
No no no, I’m pretty sure that millions across America had that exact same thing going through their head.
Funny, though. Any chance we can get us a Pouncey in this year’s draft? I’d like one, please.
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by I voted for Kodos on Jan 29, 2011 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
I submit, Mr. Pouncey
"Believe me Delmar, woman is the most fiendish instrument of torture ever devised to bedevil the days of man."
Here's hoping for a boatload of this in the Super Bowl. Preferably 10 times in the 1st quarter :P
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by mike_o on Jan 29, 2011 9:55 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
Please don't remind us of Jarrett Bush
The man Roethlisberger had his way with….along with 30 other QB’s in the NFL…..
I mean, who doesn’t burn Jarrett Bush? If you can’t beat Bush, you really suck!
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No Josh Bell for you to pick on this time.
I introduce you to Tramon Williams.
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by mike_o on Jan 29, 2011 9:54 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Riley Cooper ran a terrible route on that play
but Tramon Williams has played very well this year.
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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 30, 2011 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
BANHAMMERED
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by blackoutsox on Jan 30, 2011 12:12 AM CST up reply actions
I can't remember . . .
Which team went to the playoffs that year?
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by I voted for Kodos on Jan 31, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Oh yeah...
That year. Big impact on this year. :)
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by NYSteelersFan4 on Jan 31, 2011 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not him.
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by NYSteelersFan4 on Feb 1, 2011 9:32 AM CST up reply actions
But are you......
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and thankful you should be for that
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by I voted for Kodos on Feb 1, 2011 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
Nah, Rodgers only does that on rushing TDs
He won’t do that after his 6 TD passes, or after the defensive TD, or after the special teams TD (OK, now you know I’m joking)
What do Steelers fans think of Roethlisberger?
Obviously he’s a great QB, and money in the clutch, but does that outweigh his personal problems for Steelers fans? Does going 3-1 during his absence make it seem like he might not be worth it, or does it seem like he’s gotten his act together? Every time I watch him play I really want to like him, but I can’t overlook his past (alleged) transgressions. Obviously, if he was a Packer, I’d feel different, but my favorite Steeler is probably Hines Ward. He plays WR like a LB and I like that, plus he seems like a good community guy, which is always a plus for my ability to cheer for non-Packers.
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by I voted for Kodos on Jan 29, 2011 3:45 PM CST reply actions
Opinions are mixed. But it seems like far more fans support Ben and are either ready to give him another chance, or believe he is actually completely innocent. His play on the field obviously has a lot to do with the opinion of him.
And Hines is probably the favorite Steeler for most Steelers fans as well. For his play, his leadership, his personality, etc. Oh, and Polamalu also, who is probably even more humble and well-spoken/thoughtful.
From the outside looking in
I don’t live in the Pittsburgh area but I keep reading positive things about Ben trying to straighten his life out. In small ways as well as large. It is very possible that his problems and the tough love the Rooney family (with the help of the NFL) has shown him has finally made him sit up, look at how he was behaving and realize that wasn’t the man he wanted to be. I think most fans are pulling for him to become a better person. Word will get around fast enough if he isn’t.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 30, 2011 1:41 AM CST up reply actions
Judging from other posts
it seems that Steelers fans are not very happy with their backup DBs. If the Packers coaching staff feels the same way I’d expect to see lots of 3 and 4 WR sets.
My question: If the Packers go with 3 or 4 wide, what lineup do the Steelers counter with? Can we force you to go nickel and dime or do you stay in the base? Are there any situations in which Harrison or Woodley commonly go to the sideline?
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by I voted for Kodos on Feb 2, 2011 6:32 PM CST reply actions
Harrison and Woodley to the sideline is a massive no. We go for a 1 4 6 sometimes a 2 4 5 lineup.
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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Feb 2, 2011 11:22 PM CST up reply actions
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