Packers and Eagles Are Dealing With Substantial Injuries
by Brandon on Jan 3, 2011 1:00 PM CST
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The Green Bay Packers first playoff game will be in Philadelphia next Sunday at 3:30 p.m. CST. While the Eagles have a dangerous offense, the key is stopping WR DeSean Jackson. He only had 4 receptions for 30 yards on 11 targets when the Packers faced the Eagles back in September. QB Michael Vick had a huge game against them, but they'll be much better off knowing they have to game plan against him.
Injuries are a big problem for the Eagles, who didn't have Vick, Jackson, or CB Asante Samuel at practice last week. Their defense has taken a beating in recent weeks as they'll be without players who were starters against the Packers in week 1 including LB Stewart Bradley, FS Nate Allen, and CB Ellis Hobbs. They've also lost their first round draft pick DE Brandon Graham for the season.
While the Packers have been dealing with substantial injuries this season, their depth has really bailed them out. For example, they've lost two starting outside linebackers this season, but then they manage to uncover someone like LB Erik Walden who Mike McCarthy praised for putting in the work necessary to get ready to play this season. The only two players that have seemed irreplaceable are LB Clay Matthews and QB Aaron Rodgers. The Packers are 0-4 in games this season when either Matthews or Rodgers are knocked out mid-game, or out for the entire game.
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Here's one Cowboy fan rooting for the Packers to win it all.
I hope y’all beat Pillly like a rented mule.
Lock n Load
Ah, I see you’ve entered the phase of the season in which you’re hoping specific teams will be knocked out of the playoff. Never fun. Thank God for the Vikings last year.
Yeah, I know you loved the Vikings whipping the Cowboys last year.
Here’s hoping the Packers do the same to Philly. :)
Lock n Load
Yeah, I actually hate the Vikings, particularly Favre (sorry to those of you here that that might offend), so it was bad day of football for me. But necessary. I’m guessing you have any fondness whatsoever for the Pack?
No, actually I've always liked the Packers.
They’re an organization with a lot of class a great history and great fans. I’ll root for them as long as they’re in the playoffs.
Lock n Load
by DIRE WOLF on Jan 3, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The only hate came
in the early to mid 90’s, when the Pack was up and coming but could not beat the Boys.
We hated the Cowboys last year for losing to the Viqueens (and the deva of Queens).
We weren't thrilled about the butt kicking either.
In the 90s Dallas was repaying GB for what they did to them in the 60s.
Lock n Load
If you hate Favre,
You are friend to many of us here.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jan 3, 2011 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
The enemy of our enemy
is not necessarily our friend, though…
"There’s no reason Brian Cardinal should be blocking your shot on a fast break." - Golden State of Mind
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jan 3, 2011 11:57 PM CST up reply actions
Favre
Favre didn’t burn the Packers, and the Packer organization did not burn Favre. The man just wanted to play football a bit beyond his value to the game. I’ll be thrilled and proud when he enters the Hall of Fame as a Green Bay Packer.
Part time owner?
The glass is still more than half-full!
I'd rather be correct, than politically correct.
I'd rather be right.
The Bears still suck!
His dog ponied up 100 dollars, so he gets the certificate half the time
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
Me either.
He could enter the HOF as a Packer, and I still wouldn’t acknowledge that.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jan 5, 2011 6:15 PM CST up reply actions
The issue is not what happened
It’s how Favre reacted to it.
He acted like he was a victim and the organization completely screwed him over. He still holds a grudge over it.
Basically, he acted, and has continued to act like a child about the entire situation, crying about how he didn’t get his way.
When he finally gets over it, we will all happily watch him enter the Hall of Fame as a Packer, and eventually have his jersey retired by the organization.
Hopefully some day he can even come back to Lambeau for a ceremony of some sort in his honour before a game. He contributed more to this Franchise than just about anyone in its history (next to Lombardi, Starr, Lambeau…). He brought national recognition to the smallest major profe
Number retirement is a higher honor than HoF enshrinement,
and Bertt does not deserve it — regardless of what he does in the future; no matter how much he kisses up.
He led the Packers to only one championship in 16 seasons, while his playoff interceptions cost the Pack many opportunities to win at least one more!
I say NO to retiring number 4 in honor of Favre!
I would, however, be okay with retiring it in honor of Packer HoFer Vern Lewellen, who wore it for two of his nine seasons with the Pack, and was a part of the Packers first three championships in 1929-1931. :)
The glass is still more than half-full!
I'd rather be correct, than politically correct.
I'd rather be right.
The Bears still suck!
Your bitterness will likely subside - I know mine will
Favre was the most dominant offensive player in the NFL through the mid/late 90s, the first and only player to win 3 straight MVPs, took the team to back-to-back Super Bowls, and was the toughest player to ever play his position – by far.
That, and he turned Green Bay into a nationally popular team, turning them into one of the league marquee franchises. I don’t know about you, but that’s something I value. That’s why we get primetime games every year (even when we sucked for that two year stretch), that’s why Green Bay is the second most popular NFL franchise among fans across America. Without Brett Favre, none of that happens.
Hopefully we all keep that in mind when the organization retires his jersey and puts his name up there next to Starr, Lambeau, Hornung, et al.
not a bitterness-based opinion
You have listed all the reasons why he does deserve to be in the Hall of Fame.
I have no problem at all with that!
But, as I said, number retirement is a higher honor!
The link that I provided, if you read it (and even if you didn’t), lists a collectively powerful reason why he does not deserve that honor!
And, it does so without even touching on his revenge-inspired machinations to get to the Vikings and “stick it to Ted Thompson” (along with all of Packers Nation, whether he’s willing to admit it or not).
The glass is still more than half-full!
I'd rather be correct, than politically correct.
I'd rather be right.
The Bears still suck!
I was actually cheering for the cowboys in that game.
Im pretty sure that was the only time I ever cheered for them. But thanks for the support!
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
You advocate beating mules? Isn’t that animal abuse? Aren’t you one of those guys who plays the morality card when Vick is mentioned? Hmm… Cowboys fans. Pathetic.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
Well for someone as morally sound, uppity and pretentious as you I would expect that you would be able to see the fault in that old saying and realize that advocating animal abuse in any way, shape or form is wrong. I mean weren’t you one of the guys who said he should still be in jail and that YOU could NEVER EVER root for Vick? You’re clearly just a confused, biased, pretentious and paradoxical Cowboys fan. Its okay, at least you’ve got a good draft pick!
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
Whatever,
You have no problem with what he did, you even worship him. But I totally expect that out of a Philly fan.
Lock n Load
If you two are done talking about the Packers
I’d like to respectfully ask you to quit fighting about this here and take it elsewhere.
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
by GoGregGo on Jan 3, 2011 5:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
ah I see, Ive been hearing shit about eagle fans on here for a year
finally witnessed the first one!
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
by blackoutsox on Jan 3, 2011 10:52 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I hope you realize you just sided with one of the most dim witted, completely delusional Cowboys fans I’ve seen. Have fun you two.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
What I realize
is that a Cowboys fan came on here and was respectful and wasn’t talking sh!t to anybody.
He not only expressed hopes that we would beat your team “like a rented mule (maybe he should’ve just said, ‘like one of Vick’s wisdom teeth canines),” he even went so far as to say that he is “rooting for the Packers to win it all.”
(This shows that he wasn’t just talking smack to any Eagles fans who might be listening.)
Then, an Eagles fan, in what appears to be a deliberate attempt to pick a fight with a Cowboys fan on our site, replied with disrespect, sh!t talking, personal attacks and generalized personal attacks on all Cowboys fans.
Hmm… Cowboys fans. Pathetic.As for me, I’ve never liked the Cowboys as a team, but almost every Cowboys fan I’ve ever met — to a man, woman and child — has been wonderful people!
Guess who looks dim-witted and delusional to me!
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The glass is still more than half-full!
I'd rather be correct, than politically correct.
I'd rather be right.
The Bears still suck!
by NorthStarr on Jan 4, 2011 2:41 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
That'll get a rec.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jan 4, 2011 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
Hate the team,
not the people who root for them.
The glass is still more than half-full!
I'd rather be correct, than politically correct.
I'd rather be right.
The Bears still suck!
except the ones who call the team America’s Team and actually BELIEVE it…I dislike those people. :-)
The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010
We ARE
the real America’s team, haha.
Just as we are the real G-Men (look at the helmets)!
The glass is still more than half-full!
I'd rather be correct, than politically correct.
I'd rather be right.
The Bears still suck!
IF it was up to me you can have the name America's Team.
The Steelers think they should be called America’s Team also. Dallas fans rarely call the Cowboys, America’s Team anymore. When a team has only 1 win in 15 years in the playoffs, there is other names I’d call them.
Lock n Load
several teams could lay claim to that
There are a group of marquee franchises that get more national recognition consistently than others – The Cowboys, the Giants, Jets, Pats, Steelers, Colts, Packers as well (even though their market is dwarfed by the others), and even the Saints have started to approach this level during the Drew Brees era. That’s why you always see these teams getting put in primetime games before the season, even when they’re coming off of down years.
So I don’t think ONE team can argue that they are the one ’America’s Team’.
Up here in Canada it’s Bills, Packers, Patriots, or Cowboys for most people… In my case, obviously the Packers.
Big reason I'm not a Cowboys fan
That is just pompous, calling themselves that.
"Why do they call an orange an orange, but they don't call a banana a yellow?" - Andy Rooney
Dallas didn't come up with Americas Team,
NFL films did back in the late 70s. Landry hated it, he said it just made the target on their backs bigger.
Lock n Load
by DIRE WOLF on Jan 6, 2011 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
From
your reply to TrevorR, on another thread earlier this week.
hate the uniform not the hired hand in it
Same thing.
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The glass is still more than half-full!
I'd rather be correct, than politically correct.
I'd rather be right.
The Bears still suck!
But, Don,
we were talking about the cowBoys. :)
The glass is still more than half-full!
I'd rather be correct, than politically correct.
I'd rather be right.
The Bears still suck!
Duh Bares on the other thread,
cowBoys on this one.
The glass is still more than half-full!
I'd rather be correct, than politically correct.
I'd rather be right.
The Bears still suck!
+1
The glass is still more than half-full!
I'd rather be correct, than politically correct.
I'd rather be right.
The Bears still suck!
Correction:
Eye teeth , not wisdom teeth.
The glass is still more than half-full!
I'd rather be correct, than politically correct.
I'd rather be right.
The Bears still suck!
Rec'd
The glass is still more than half-full!
I'd rather be correct, than politically correct.
I'd rather be right.
The Bears still suck!
Vick, Jackson, and Samuel were all pretty much given rest before a meaningless Week 17 game. Had the Eagles needed that game, all 3 likely would have practiced and played.
As for the other 3:
Stewart Bradley – Bradley says he’s good to go, but Andy Reid disagrees. Bradley’s backup, rookie Jamar Chaney, has played better than Bradley in his absence, so Reid may just prefer Chaney.
Nate Allen – Big loss, although his backup, another rookie Kurt Coleman, has held down the fort nicely. the problem here is that if the Eagles lose Coleman or SS Quintin Mikell at any point, they have absolutely nothing behind those guys.
Ellis Hobbs – Struggled when he was healthy, and the backups have been just as bad.
Brandon Graham – This one’s more of a long-term devastating injury to the Eagles. You never want to lose the 13th overall pick to a torn ACL. In the short term though, both Juqua Parker and Darryl Tapp have been just as good (if not better) than Graham.
Others not noted:
Jamaal Jackson (center) – Miraculously recovered from a torn ACL late in the 2009 season, only to tear a pectoral muscle against your packers. Mike McGlynn has filled in. Has been very meh.
Max Jean-Gilles – Was the only starting offensive lineman to play yesterday, and hurt his knee. Nick Cole would start if he can’t go. Would be a minor loss.
Trevor Laws – Rotational DT that has begun to make some plays this year, may not go. Would be a minor loss
Hobbs
struggled vs. Tennessee, but he wasn’t bad in coverage in other games. At least he had an excuse, having pulled his hip flexor and played hurt. I’d much rather have him than Dmitri Patterson, who’s had terrible games vs. the Giants and Vikings (both times healthy). If only Reid didn’t put him in as KR vs. the Giants.
He struggled in games other than just Tennessee, although I’ll agree he wasn’t nearly as bad as what some people have mad him out to be. I do recall the Packers literally laughing at him on the sideline Week 1 for his coverage (or lack thereof) of Greg Jennings at one point. That 2nd CB spot has not been good this year, whether it has been Hobbs, Hanson, or Patterson. Frankly, I’d be inclined to give Trevard Lindley a shot, but I’m pretty sure they’re going with Hanson.
As an ISU guy
Hobbs was pretty much the best guy we send to the NFL this decade. His competition are Seneca Wallace and Sage Rosencopter. So that’s not saying much…
by Danwood on Jan 3, 2011 1:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rosencopter? lol
That’s an automatic +1.
Can woodchucks chuck wood? Yes. The moral of the story? Woodchucks are assholes.
Man I hope we don’t have to do a run down on our injuries…you will be reading for a couple days! haha
Thanks for the update though. I do think that if Vick Jackson and Samual were in great shape, they would have practiced at least.
The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010
heh... no kiddin
Packers injuries lists like a phonebook.
You gotta wonder how well either of these teams would have come in to the playoffs with even only half of these injuries. On the AFC side, it’s the Colts and Jets. Jets have less injuries, of course, but those they have seem to have nearly derailed them against quality teams… I’m actually picking the Colts in that one.
"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Vince Lombardi
NICE!
Packers injuries lists like a phonebook.
Good analogy for a rather unfortunate situation.
by Bush League All Star on Jan 3, 2011 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
The Cook County phonebook, probably o_O
"There’s no reason Brian Cardinal should be blocking your shot on a fast break." - Golden State of Mind
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jan 3, 2011 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
I think Rodgers should be able to exploit that rookie safety they’ve got back there. He does a great job of moving guys with his eyes, so he should be able to exploit a somewhat inexperienced guy. I like our receivers vs. their defensive back’s too. Samuel is great, but Patterson and Hanson seem to be liabilities back there.
Fire Slocum
I wouldn't call Samuel great
I just think he’s a great ballhawk who also can get burned, from what I can see.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
And he's a horrible, horrible, HORRIBLE tackler.
"There’s no reason Brian Cardinal should be blocking your shot on a fast break." - Golden State of Mind
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jan 4, 2011 12:30 AM CST up reply actions
Which can be a big problem against the packers
with receivers like Jennings, Driver, Nelson, and Jones who are great at running the ball after the catch, and not as easy to bring down when contacted as most are.
the BEST ballhawk out there right now in my opinion.
but once you catch it, you can make a play on him
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
The only time I really saw him get burned this season was against the Giants when he was supposedly playing with an injury. I think he’s probably the best ballhawk in the league. If you make an iffy throw towards him it’s going the other way.
He can definitely be exploited after the catch though.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Jan 4, 2011 12:57 AM CST up reply actions
Looks like the best time to play the Eagles
Momentum often is a huge lift and the Eagles have none right now. They were surprised and embarrassed by a rookie QB and a solid D which revealed some important weaknesses in Michael Vick at a time when they were fighting for the #2 seed, and for what it’s worth, they lost a division game in front of their fans yesterday on the last drive.
Vick has taken a lot of hits, Djax is hobbled, Samuel is hurt, their D has been exposed especially Dimitri Patterson – people can see that this is not the Jim Johnson’s D. The game plan is there: pressure Vick and make him leave the pocket before he wants to, and TACKLE. Attack their corners not named Samuel and their safeties. More importantly, do not let them take the reins of the game: can’t punt and ride a 0-0 game (ala Chicago last year) until we click. That spells big trouble. We need to score in the first possessions, and score big. I think the Eagles cannot keep pace with us in a shootout, cause we can make more defensive plays than them.
And let’s hope our ST has another game like last week’s. Jackson, even on one leg, is as dangerous as Devin Hester. Any Giants fans here?
and for what it’s worth, they lost a division game in front of their fans yesterday on the last drive.
A grand total of 4 out of 22 starters played in that game.
for what it's worth, Jimmy
You an oak man Jimmy? I like oak myself.
by Rodgers_for_MVP on Jan 3, 2011 9:25 PM CST up reply actions
I agree,
Going into the playoffs on a roll is important. The loss to Dallas was no big deal if they had beating the Vikings at home. The Cowboys look like crap in the pre season, they were saying don’t worry the Boys will be fine when the regular seasons starts. They thought they could turn the switch on and start winning, didn’t happen. I think Philly comes out flat.
Lock n Load
Yeah, but...
people said that about the Cardinals last year, and they came out on fire and stayed that way the whole game… There’s really no way to know until we see it. Anything can happen on WILD card weekend. ha.ha.ha.
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