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The Packers Are Blitzing More And Sacking Less

Packers puttin' on the blitz - JSOnline. Bob McGinn has a lot of statistics on defensive coordinator Dom Capers's tendency to blitz. And he compares them to the stats for past defensive coordinators. Capers is dialing up the blitz more than I've noticed, and I understand better now why I haven't noticed it more.

The base four man pass rush is LB Clay Matthews, DE Jarius Wynn, NT B.J. Raji, and LB Erik Walden. That group has accounted for 9 of their 17 sacks this season. Matthews creates a lot of pressure and gets some extra hits on the quarterback too, but none of the other players have stood out this season. It's not a clear comparison without Cullen Jenkins and Frank Zombo included, but the four primary pass rushers in 2010 recorded a higher percentage of the the team's sacks. Matthews, Raji, and Jenkins alone combined for 27 of the team's 47 sacks in 2010. The lack of pressure from that group is a reason why Desmond Bishop is tied for the team lead with 3 sacks.

Bob McGinn's stats show that Raji is putting less pressure on the quarterback, but I'm sure he'd be better off if he had Jenkins lining up next to him instead of Wynn. I've been really disappointed with Walden this season, and finding someone to compete at outside linebacker should be a priority this offseason.

According to McGinn, Capers has called for a blitz on nearly 40% of their plays, which is up from 33% last season. Those are play calls when the Packers rush more than four defenders. But Capers doesn't call for six or more rushers often, and he never leaves the coverage team in man-to-man (there's always an safety covering the middle). Which is why I haven't noticed the blitz as often: he's not taking any huge chances.

What do you think of this scheme? Would you like to see the Packers do something different?

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I think they really do need someone opposite of Matthews who can rush the passer, no one is getting to the QB which makes the backend open when the QB is given time and Teams arent doubling the NT and DE they chip off Matthews then they block everone across the board on man

by Touhue Cha on Oct 27, 2011 11:05 AM CDT reply actions  

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We need more analysis, all Brandon does is post mass links

In all seriousness, though…someone needs to step up on the opposite side of Matthews, doesn’t matter whether it is the DE or OLB. This has been mentioned often here and it’s frustrating that noone on that side can beat a single team with any regularity.

I think this scheme has a bit to do with the injuries we have sustained at CB, and to a lesser extent Collins. No choice but to play a bit more conservative (in reference to the lack of man coverage with a safety up top, not blitzing) when you have Jarrett Bush in there.

This bye week should help us with getting some guys healthy, as Shields/Tramon should be back to full health. Not too sure on the timeline for Zombo (although I think he’s back soon) and Neal.

I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!

by msc32887 on Oct 27, 2011 11:05 AM CDT reply actions  

Neal and Zombo

I think having them back will help GREATLY in the pass rush, which should end up fixing the secondary quite a bit.

Until then, I would like to see Capers take some more chances. As it currently stands, we are basically living on interceptions and having teams settle for field goals. The corners we have are good enough to cover in man and we just need to take a chance with Burnett and Co. doing their job on those biltzes of 6 and 7 men to cover. As it is now, teams know they’re going to have time to pass on us and it’s killing us. Even if we only blitz 6 or 7 a couple of times a game, that will simply make showing biltz more effective and change the way teams play call against us. Getting pressure on the QB is a must and we can’t afford to not do it.

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by uofmike on Oct 27, 2011 11:56 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Neal will absolutely help.

But lets not make Zombo out to be much as a pass rusher! In fact I’ve read alot that the Packers consider Walden a better pass rusher than Zombo. In training camp Walden was winning the battle for the starting OLB job, even tho Zombo is considered the better run player. Kinda indicates that Walden IS the better pass rush by more than Zombo is a run player.

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by Strohman on Oct 30, 2011 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with everyone on the need for a better OLB pass rush

But what Capers has been doing has obviously worked so far, so let’s not change it until we have to. I hope it lasts, because if we can get Neal back and healthy for the playoffswe could have the lock-down defense we need to go all the way again.

by Jurp on Oct 27, 2011 12:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Defense

I could be wrong, but it seemed like last year Capers ran a lot more nickel or even psycho. Those schemes were more vulnerable to the run, but put better pressure on the QB..

I’d like to see if there was more nickle + psycho run last year vs this year..

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by White92 on Oct 27, 2011 12:19 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd like to see Clay in different situations

ie in the middle, or have a corner rush more.

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by blackoutsox on Oct 27, 2011 2:11 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Me too

The guy is a beast who can do so much for us… why not move him around and keep the offense on their toes? What if a team has a better RT than LT? Shouldn’t we be moving Clay to exploit the weak spot?

Makes sense to me!

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by Chief Oshkosh on Oct 27, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think I saw him line up over Charlie Johnson a couple of times last week against the Vikes so maybe they’re going to start doing that.

I know I’ve seen ginslinger post some links that have Matthews saying that he’s more comfortable rushing from the right side though too.

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by packallday555 on Oct 27, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

ESPN NFC North Blog Posts

from early last season contain quotes saying that Matthews is less comfortable rushing from the right. Don’t know about the center, though there have been some very narrow misses from Hawk that someone speedier might make. However, does Hawk have the skills to go outside? He looked good sideline-to-sideline in the Rams game, so it might be worth a shot.

I’m wondering if Raji is 100%.

by GinSlinger on Oct 28, 2011 6:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think he’s 100%. From watching Butler’s clip on JSOnline it sounds like OL’s have been sliding protection which is probably what’s hurting him. He’s quick for a big guy but I don’t know if he’s got the quickness to slip through, and I’m sure he’s probably being doubled by the C and OG too most of the time.

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by packallday555 on Oct 28, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

It is not his lack of “production” (pundit speak for sacks), but his facial expression on the sidelines/between plays that had me wondering. I guess it’s like Clay no doing his stud pose last week—they’re not happy with their overall production, and are more intent on getting it done than celebrating (looking at you Jared Allen).

by GinSlinger on Oct 28, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, when Shields and Williams are healthy I’d like to see us play more man coverage behind the blitzes. And I’d like to see him bring 6 or 7 a couple of times. Like you say, the majority of the time he’s bringing 5, and most of the time it’s not getting home, or even causing much pressure. I think it could be in part because teams have extensive tape on this defense now. They’re able to get the right OL shifts, and aren’t get fooled as much.

I’m really hoping Neal can get back the week after San Diego. We desperately need the pass rush he provides.

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by packallday555 on Oct 27, 2011 2:30 PM CDT reply actions  

LeRoy Butler does a good job explaining

the max protect schemes that teams are using a lot against the Packers. Check it out.

It does hurt that we have only one really effective pass rusher. While I hear that Walden is supposed to be a better pass-rusher than Zombo, other than one great game against Chicago last year, Walden hasn’t done much. Zombo seemed to be more consistent: getting a sack here and there and putting on consistent pressure.

by MikeDB on Oct 27, 2011 3:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, I agree. Walden has done literally nothing this season as far as rushing the passer goes. He gets stoned pretty every play. And on top of that, he hasn’t done a very good job at keeping contain against the run.

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by packallday555 on Oct 27, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

max protect

is the way to beat the packers defense. Bishop mentioned it a few weeks ago, saying everyone is going max protect on them which is why sacks are down.

soooo….if CMIII is the only player that consistently get pressure, how do we stop a team like the Saints (yes, I am aware we beat them) or the Patriots?

would be great if Neal is the magic pill that solves all problems, but what happens if he isn’t?

and I don’t think rushing 6 or 7 is a good long term solution.

I expect Capers will call me soon to dicuss! :)

by Acme on Oct 27, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, if Neal can come back and shoot through those gaps when they’re sliding the line towards Matthews that should help us a lot — that’s what Jenkins did so well. He was so quick off the ball. And like Butler/Silverstein say in that clip, his ability to shoot through those gaps prevented teams from sliding protection consistently. Based on what Neal showed last season, I think he has the ability to do that. He looked really, really quick off the ball.

But if he can’t provide that, then yeah, I think we’ll be in some trouble come playoff time.

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by packallday555 on Oct 27, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

play coverage? :s

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by sheehan on Oct 28, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

What happened to Brad Jones?

He looked pretty good in 09, then got hurt last year, but this year he’s been a back-up all year. I felt like he didn’t really get a fair chance to compete for the OLB job in the preseason, and they put him at ILB instead. I hope can finally get healthy, cause it seems like Walden is getting no pressure at all.

by Katsuya89 on Oct 27, 2011 4:35 PM CDT reply actions  

He’s had injuries and I think those have slowed him down. He’s basically the same player as Walden though imo.

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by packallday555 on Oct 27, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, I freely admit that I'm not very knowledgeable about inside football,

but this mini-thread about max protect being the was to beat the Packer D has me confused. In particular, the “how are we ever to defend against the likes of Brady or Brees?”

My admittedly vague impression is that a large part of the success of folks like Brady and Brees (and Rivers and Rodgers) is their facility with four and five wide sets. These are, I thought, sort of the opposite of max-protect blocking schemes.

Also, I’d like to remind everyone, with absolutely no desire to encourage cockiness, that the most fundamental evaluation criterion for a defense is not sacks or percent blitzes or pass defenses by the ROLB, or even pick-6s; but did they allow the opponent to score fewer points than the Packers?

by bob47 on Oct 28, 2011 1:32 AM CDT reply actions  

The problem with the Saints is that they have a stud TE, a deep WR corps (Colston, Henderson, Moore and Meachem), and at least two pass catching RBs (Sproles being particularly dangerous in open space). If Meachem is their #2, Bush is going to be on Moore or Henderson. The Pats have two big, athletic tight ends, which cause huge match-up problems.

I do agree with the total points idea because I see the D right now as a bend-but-don’t-break D. The Colts won with a D that broke more often than the Pack D is this year. Furthermore we all know the D is nowhere near their potential.

by doldham on Oct 28, 2011 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

That Colts D also went up against Rex Grossman.

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by Omaha Sun on Oct 28, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

You’re right about the Saints mainly being spread out. The Patriots this season though, have used a lot of 2 TE formations, and actually been pretty balanced on offense.

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by packallday555 on Oct 28, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Couple of thoughts

1) Matthews is getting home even when he’s facing just one blocker. Blockers are pretty consistently getting him across his shoulders and slowing him down. Seems that there’s a technique problem there. (Though, to be honest, I’m not entirely clear when those cross throat blocks are holding and when they’re not.)

2) There’s a counter-scheme for every scheme, even max protect. One option I’d like to see the Packers try is play 3 DL. Now I’m going to suggest something that may get me flamed, but I AM aware that Green is known as a run stuffer, not blocker. Anywho, I’d like to see Big Howard Green in there on the left side (from the O’s perspective) G/T gap—as he IS a run stuffer, we know he can control a gap, so get him to take that double team. Then, put Wynn (or even Hawk) over the RG/C gap, and Raji a little wide on the T (Yes, I know Raji is a NT this isn’t supposed to be an every-down play).. That should occupy the whole line, leaving just TEs and RBs. The D can bring the heat from either side. I know it’s not perfect, but I’d like so see our DL occupying more of the opponent’s OL.

by GinSlinger on Oct 28, 2011 6:36 AM CDT reply actions  

I would like to see Hawk closer to the line a little bit

But I don’t know about having Raji wide on the tackle. I don’t see him really being quick enough to cover a lot of ground and get to the QB. He works so well being a NT because of his ridiculous strength not so much speed. I personally would like to see some safety blitzes from Burnett, but again it might leave the coverage a little thin.

by stratefaced on Oct 28, 2011 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I get the speed thing

I’m thinking having Green in and BJ out wide does two things: 1) they each garner at least two blockers just based on their size, and 2) offences will think the D is in run formation, thus tilting their pass selection toward pass (which is what one would want in that situation).

Regardless of the actual personnel, I’d like to see some formations that try to take up more blockers and allow the 9s and edge rushers more freedom.

by GinSlinger on Oct 28, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

JUST Noticed

that I typed “is getting home” when I meant to type “is not getting home” but I figure you all knew what I meant.

by GinSlinger on Oct 28, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

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by Omaha Sun on Oct 28, 2011 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

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