Football Outsiders: Rodgers and Jennings Among The Best
by Brandon on Oct 4, 2011 4:01 PM CDT
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PrintFootball Outsiders has posted their Week 4 Quick Reads, and Green Bay Packers QB Aaron Rodgers comes out as the best quarterback of the week. It's not surprising since he scored six touchdowns with only one turnover, but it was mentioned that this game will lose a little of its shine once the opponent adjustments reflect the Broncos weak defense. He moves ahead of QB Tom Brady in their cumulative rankings for the season.
For a second opinion, ESPN's Week 4 Total QBR ranked Rodgers behind QB Matt Hasselbeck. Really. While Hasselbeck has played better than I expected this season, he had a remarkable game on Sunday by throwing for three touchdowns on only 20 pass attempts (21 "action plays" as ESPN calls them).
WR Greg Jennings gets another mention as the 3rd best wide receiver of the week. He caught the first six pass attempts thrown to him, including a touchdown. For the second week in a row, Jennings is behind Patriots WR Wes Welker, who's on pace to go for over 2400 yards this season.
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On the INT
I posted this on the other thread, but then it fell off the front page.
That really looked like Jones was reaching for a ball that wasn’t his. I can’t find a full field view, so can any of you at the game tell me if there was a receiver over Jones?
This might be a problem with spreading the ball around—that some receiver who thinks they need to prove something/deserve the ball reach for passes that aren’t their’s. It sure as heck looked like that ball was intended to go down field and that Jones created the turnover because he wanted the ball so badly.
I’m very interested in whether anyone has seen the rest of the field on this play. It definitely looked like Jones forced the INT.
I don't think there was.
I think it was just a high throw.
I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!
Thanks
It was just so high as to look intentional.
rodger said he threw it too high and too hard
by Karl-Friedrich Lingenfelder on Oct 4, 2011 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks
must have missed that, but with the way this week is going I’m not surprised.
HAHA!!!
The Packers ar soo overatid! the falcons gona stommp em sumday nite in da dome! Roggers is so week and yall got luky in playofs last seeson. you guys macke me laf! yall is so stupid. go falcons!!!!!!!!!!
Not exactly
a ringing endorsement of Georgia schools.
by GinSlinger on Oct 4, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Nor of
Alaskan schools, upon further review.
by GinSlinger on Oct 4, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
He may have meant Arkansas in his handle
You know, ArKansas instead of ARkansas. they probably don’t teach the two-letter postal abbreviations out in Hickville.
by Jurp on Oct 4, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Another possible explanation, haha.
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
Skol is a four-letter word.
The Munsters of the Midway still suck!
Meh judging by his other posts on the "Ask...." thread....
he is just joke-trolling.
I kinda lol’ed when I read it.
In Every Climb and Place....
by PhoenicianPakFan on Oct 4, 2011 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds like
a graduate of the Carol Comeau school system, for sure.
Thank god that bitch is retiring (as superintendant of the Anchorage School District)!!!!!
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
Skol is a four-letter word.
The Munsters of the Midway still suck!
Sorry about that little rant, heh heh. :)
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
Skol is a four-letter word.
The Munsters of the Midway still suck!
Pff, I've bitched more about less. You're fine.
I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!
How long did you spend purposely misspelling nearly every word?
If you didn’t, then….damn.
I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!
LOL
really hope this guy is legit
by tmoneyttime1 on Oct 4, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mr. dirtybird in ak
what you’ve just typed is easily one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having read that ****ing stupid post. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 4, 2011 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
They need to give up and just abandon that stupid ass QBR rating already!
Its so damn annoying
Yes please
The only thing thus stat had going over passer rating before knocking off YAC as if hitting receivers in stride has nothing to fo with it, facepalming completely with clutch was that it factored in rushing. Rodgers rushed for two touchdowns in addition to his dominant passing performance and this stat again uncovered a new way to get it wrong. It was comical before. At this point it’s just pathetic
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 4, 2011 8:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I so wish people would stop paying lip service to that QBR.
It is 100% pure bullshit!
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
Skol is a four-letter word.
The Munsters of the Midway still suck!
rodger said he threw it too high and too hard
by Karl-Friedrich Lingenfelder on Oct 4, 2011 6:15 PM CDT reply actions
Here's the latest from the Mississippi Meat-Head:
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 4, 2011 6:21 PM CDT reply actions
What an ass...
I didn’t think he was smart enough to make such veiled comments.
In Every Climb and Place....
by PhoenicianPakFan on Oct 4, 2011 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Funny how Favre wasn't able to be successful...
…when he was in a very similar “good situation” in 07 (and several other years for that matter).
Seriously, how many times did he shoot himself and his team in the foot at a crucial time in a huge game?
If it wasn’t for the SB XXXI victory, his career would be an utter failure, despite all the records and MVP awards.
I shudder to think what would have happened if Favre was in charge of last year’s team.
I can’t believe how much I used to love this guy, and probably still would, had he just had the dignity to walk away and say
“Thanks guys, I’ve had a good run. Good luck Aaron”
by nvar21 on Oct 4, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Favre's sour grapes about Rodgers falling into a "good situation"
Favre can’t gripe about personnel. He threw to Sharpe, Freeman, Rison, Chumra, a young DD. Ferguson, Glenn, Walker…in Dorsey Levens, Ahman Green and Edgar Bennett he had RBs that were as good or probably better (certainly in Green’s case) than Starks or Grant. On defense, he had at one time or another Reggie White, Seth Joyner. Leroy Butler, Eugene Robinson, Darren Sharper…c’mon Brett. Just let it go.
Can you imagine what his career would've been if he had stayed in Atlanta?
Probably out of the game by 1995. And talk about a good situation? He had probably the only coach with the patience to mentor him and mold him into what he became. I wish he would just shut the f up.
by Jurp on Oct 4, 2011 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Good find...
I love Brett Favre, but what he said there is just plain stupid. “Took him so long”? Like in his very first playoff game in Arizona, where he passed for 428 yards and led us back from 31-10 deficit to a 45-45 OT in one of the great games in NFL History? Antrelle Rolle after that game called Rodgers “scary” and hoped he never had to face Rodgers again. All the Cardinals praised Rodgers.
Or even earlier, his 20 point 4th Qtr points at Pittburgh. Or maybe coming off the bench cold against Dallas after Favre shit his pants and threw 2 early INTs and got injured. Rodgers proceeded to complete 11 passes in a row, and get us within three points in Dallas against the 10-1 Dallas in 2007?
Never heard Montana say that he handed Young anything. That Young “took him so long.” Plain stupid.
Brett did (along with Holmgren and Wolf) turned around this franchise. That is a remarkable achievement.
But what’s so funny about it “took him so long” is that Rodgers won his first superbowl at the same EXACT age as Brett …age 27.
Moronic.
by PackFaninFL on Oct 4, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
And had to wait two years longer to start
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Oct 4, 2011 8:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Good grief. I'm a long-time Favre fan, but didn't he call the 2009 Vikes
the best team he was ever part of? Presumably, that ruled out 2009 as a chance for Rodgers to win the SB, so that makes him one for two? And Brett’s surprised it “took so long”?
Brett, you were fabulously entertaining, inhumanly durable, and I have one of your signed jerseys under glass. But you need to get on top of your inner whiny diva, unless you really want to alienate your biggest fan base — real, long-term, Packer fans.
by bob47 on Oct 5, 2011 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't say that his biggest fan base
is real, long-term, Packer fans.
I’d say that it is those who left the Packers fan base to follow him whereever he played, including with the Vikes (many of whom have been, and still are, slinking back into the fold).
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
Skol is a four-letter word.
The Munsters of the Midway still suck!
Ooops
you really want to alienate your biggest fan base.
Kinda late for that… He already has done a tremendous job of it! LOL
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
No kidding...
and his continued idiotic statements are not helping. He really must want his number retired in the building that collapses and not the one that symbolizes greatness and legacy.
In Every Climb and Place....
by PhoenicianPakFan on Oct 5, 2011 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Or, at this point,
his biggest fan base may be himself.
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
Skol is a four-letter word.
The Munsters of the Midway still suck!
by NorthStarr on Oct 5, 2011 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Let's see, it took Rodgers three years as a starter to win the SB
And Favre nearly five years. What took him so long?
I've actually read Favre's interview in full
If he would have said “I’m surprised it took THEM so long” to click…instead of personalizing it to Rodgers, then his comments would have been sensible. He is right that the Pack were loaded (we were picked to go to the SBowl by many), and the full comments put it into better persspective….but the fact that he still singled out Rodgers as the one that took too long to click.
Look, it was our defense that had to click as well. Second year with Capers and it was about the team overcoming injuries and gelling.
Anyways, it doesn’t matter….10 in a row dating back to last year and counting. Let’s go burn Atlanta like Sherman next Sunday.
booyakasha
F****** Dammit
For a second opinion, ESPN’s Week 4 Total QBR ranked Rodgers behind QB Matt Hasselbeck. Really. While Hasselbeck has played better than I expected this season, he had a remarkable game on Sunday by throwing for three touchdowns on only 20 pass attempts (21 “action plays” as ESPN calls them).
I knew we shouldve signed Hasselback.
I love Donald Driver. AND RANDALL COBB!
Hasselbeck would surely have been a massive upgrade over Matt Flynn.
That backup QB position won't take care of itself.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 4, 2011 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I knew we shouldve signed Hasselback.
We did……at one time.
In Every Climb and Place....
by PhoenicianPakFan on Oct 4, 2011 10:22 PM CDT reply actions
reply fail to arodg
In Every Climb and Place....
by PhoenicianPakFan on Oct 4, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I'MSORRYPLEASEDON'THITME!
In Every Climb and Place....
by PhoenicianPakFan on Oct 6, 2011 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, Brett!
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
Skol is a four-letter word.
The Munsters of the Midway still suck!
by NorthStarr on Oct 4, 2011 11:04 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
Wooooooahhhhh....
When I read this post, I did not think that I would scroll down to see NorthStarr as the author. You are stepping your game up!
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 4, 2011 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
...
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
Skol is a four-letter word.
The Munsters of the Midway still suck!
by NorthStarr on Oct 4, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, and one other thing, BLAS,
Backhanded compliment?
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
Skol is a four-letter word.
The Munsters of the Midway still suck!
Everything BLAS does is backhanded....
be happy it wasn’t to the face.
In Every Climb and Place....
by PhoenicianPakFan on Oct 5, 2011 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm always happy. :)
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
Skol is a four-letter word.
The Munsters of the Midway still suck!
Wouldn't say that.
Just cool that you did a nice mocking montage. Did not expect you to do snark like that!
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 5, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
When it comes to Bertt... :)
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
Skol is a four-letter word.
The Munsters of the Midway still suck!
The 4th, 5th or 6th best QB in Packers history
behind (in whichever order you choose)
Starr, Rodgers, Dickey (and possibly Herber and Isbell. :)
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
Skol is a four-letter word.
The Munsters of the Midway still suck!
I do think he was better than both
Bratkowski and Majkowski, however.
And, that’s a coincidence, haha.
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
Skol is a four-letter word.
The Munsters of the Midway still suck!
I don't even want to argue those merits.
You are too knowledgeable in those areas, and it would start off a firestorm of just rabble.
I could see anywhere between 1st and 5th.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 6, 2011 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions
#4 is still my favorite of all time
When I was 6 years (92’) old my family was at training camp practice in gb and I got stuck on an island in between on coming traffic on lombardi and brett crossed the road and took my hand, took me back to my parents and got sterling sharpe, robert brooks, and terrence newsome to contribute on a hat he signed for me. As poorly I think he has handled criticism and superstardom over the years I will always remember favre as a truly conscientious person regardless of his decisions. That said… his comments were abhorrent.
by Articulation on Oct 5, 2011 1:08 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
That is a pretty cool personal story.
Most fans don’t get really cool interactions like that.
In Every Climb and Place....
by PhoenicianPakFan on Oct 5, 2011 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Back in 1992 he was still a decent person
Friends of mine in GB told me stories in the mid-90s that made Max McGee’s and Paul Hornung’s antics look extremely tame.
I was still living in GB in the early, mid 90's
Favre was a regular bar hound and it wasn’t unusual to see him at bars on Fri and Sat nites. Even if before a game. I’ve heard alot of story’s of his early GB days, before Dianna reigned him in a little. I can’t verify them personally, but I don’t doubt they were true!
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
QBR is a joke
Brett Favre has become a joke
when life gives you melons, you might be dyslexic...
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