Monday Night Journal - Jordy is the next Don Beebe

by TristanD on Nov 16, 2011 11:24 AM CST

Here's the recap of my MNF-watching experience I wrote for an NFC North blog. I figured out that Jared Allen is the lovechild of Dog the Bounty Hunter and George W. Bush; LeRoy Butler should give Matt Flynn a Lambeau Leap tutorial; and Jordy Nelson is the next Don Beebe.

I've copied the text below, but read the original with my crappy Photoshop job at: http://jtosullivanlives.blogspot.com/2011/11/packer-recap-monday-night-journal.html

These are the feelings I felt on Monday night:

Pregame: So a guy gives blood to make money to buy Packer tickets, which inadvertently saves his life. I think that says something about our dysfunctional healthcare system and our skewed national values, but I'm not sure what.

1st Quarter:

Pack might have gotten away with a defensive hold on that first Vikings series. Oh well.
Good lord, that punt return looked easy. I think more Vikings players were blocked by their own teammates than by Green Bay. I'm feeling alright about this game.
Matthews and Allen both get early sacks. Jaws says that Allen "almost invented the word sack." What?
Driver sighting! Great catch. Jaws says "that's trust." What?
Vikings getting some pressure on Rodgers - they need to keep this up the entire game to have a chance.
Sweet play action to set up Jennings with the easy touchdown. Alex asks me why you would ever respect the Packers play action. Good question.
Huge play to Shiancoe, but Harvin pushes Tramon Williams on deep shot a couple plays later. Great coverage by Tramon. Tramon-dous coverage! Right? Right?
Beastly play by Woodson to wrestle the ball from Shiancoe - was it an interception??? Nope, hit the ground. Go Blue regardless.
Vikings false start on a field goal attempt. That's unfortunate. Longer kick falls just short. Gruden is disgusted. As usual.
My mood after 1st Quarter: Pleasantly optimistic.

Second Quarter:

Tirico says that Lambeau has "one of the great atriums to walk into." A bold statement, but has he even been to the Department of Conservation Headquarters in Wellington, New Zealand?
Going for it on fourth and 5 with a 14 point lead? Hell yeah. Great catch by Finley. Packers out to hurt some feelings.
God, Allen again? This dude is everywhere. He's great - too bad he's the love child of Dog the Bounty Hunter and George W. Bush.
Just a field goal. Will Gruden finally find any fault with Rodgers now? Of course not.
Nice run by Ponder for the first. Joe Webb must have taught him a thing or two.
Wacky wacky! Flea flicker leads to underthrown pass - Tramon will gladly take that interception. Tramon-dous!!! Huh? Come on, that's got to catch on.
Vikes move it down the field a bit, then get stuck with a 3rd and 21. D'oh!
Rodgers narrowly evades a safety, and then the Packers finally get a decent run to pick up the first and put some distance between them and their own end zone. This isn't going well for Minnesota, is it?
Winfield gets the sack on his first game back, but it's really set up by Allen. Without that dude, this could be a blowout already.
WOODSON CANNOT BE INJURED WOODSON CANNOT BE INJURED WOODSON CANNOT BE INJURED. Go Blue.
My mood after the 2nd quarter: Still feeling fine, but concerned about the pressure on Rodgers.

HALFTIME: Bob Knight looks cold, angry, and uncomfortable. Switching to the NBC Bob Costas interview with Sandusky... "Horsing around?' Who is his lawyer/PR person/clergyman? Poor choice of words. Too disturbing... Oh, there's his lawyer - hey kids, you still want to grow up to be defense attorneys?!? Costas is gunning for the confession and repeatedly asking what amounts to: "Are you monstrous rapist pedophile? No? Really? Are you sure?" My mood after halftime: Confused and vulnerable.
3rd Quarter:

Longwell slips on the kickoff. D'oh!
Alex points out that the referee sounds like Robin Williams. He is right.
4th and 3? Yeah, we'll go for it, sure. Jordy Nelson is the next Don Beebe.
Touchdown. JORDY NELSON IS THE NEXT DON BEEBE. Cedric Griffen didn't quite tackle him there.
Cobb muffs the punt return for the first Packers turnover. You win some, you lose some. Gruden is annoyed and offended.
And AP gets the touchdown. Raji got pushed around. Gruden suspects that he may be missing a Y chromosome.
Cobb almost redeems himself on the kickoff return. Are the Vikes' special teams always this awful?
Starks and Grant set up KUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHN with the TD reception. Is this ten yarder Kuhn's longest career reception? I would honestly not be surprised. His trademark is the one yard play.
Clay Matthews is back. Maybe it's bad blocking, but he looks 100% tonight - reminds me of last season.
Ponder gets sandwiched by Bishop and Tramon. That's a Tramon-dous half a sack!
Woodson alllllmost gets the pick. Drats. Go Blue.
My mood after the 3rd quarter: Confident, relaxed.

4th Quarter:

Good lord. Rodgers to Jordy. That's it. Jordy Nelson is the next Don Beebe. Nothing more to say. Matt Flynn, where are you?
There you are!
Matt Flynn Lambeau Leap! I'll give it a 5.2. Needs some practice.
Final mood: Who's next?

The Vikings were on the verge of competing with the Packers for most of the first half, but they had no offense to speak of and their shoddy secondary was no match for that dude that Gruden hyped relentlessly throughout the game.

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Fun fact...

Kuhn had a 10-yard receiving TD in 2009, which is his career long. Monday’s was officially listed in the stats as a 9-yarder, which is his second-longest career TD.

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by texwestern on Nov 16, 2011 12:03 PM CST reply actions

Honestly

if you had told me that Kuhn’s career long was 3 yds (rushing or receiving) I’d probably believe you… He is good at the one yd TD though.

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by Kuhl on Nov 16, 2011 1:24 PM CST up reply actions

Update:

Kuhn’s longest career rush went for 18 yards (2010) and his longest career reception went for 15 (with PIT in 2006). Longest reception as a Packer is 14 (2009).

via Pro-Football-Reference

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by texwestern on Nov 17, 2011 10:28 AM CST up reply actions

As long as Jordy's not the next Bill Schroeder, I'm fine with it.

by osc630 on Nov 16, 2011 1:29 PM CST reply actions

I'd be quite ecstatic if Jordy was the next Don Hutson.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Nov 16, 2011 2:14 PM CST up reply actions

Don Beebe is the ONLY Don Beebe!!!

Having said that, I do own Jordy on all three of my fantasy teams.

I'm a fair weather fan. Where ever Don Beebe goes--it's fair weather.

by BeebeFan on Nov 16, 2011 3:49 PM CST reply actions

Hopefully not the next Jeff Query

by PackFaninFL on Nov 16, 2011 4:14 PM CST reply actions 1 recs

Don't see the Jordy/Beebe comparison!

Why cuz both are white? They are nothing alike physically. Beebe was a damn good slot reciever, Jordy plays outside… Sorry, doesn’t make sense to me.

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by Strohman on Nov 16, 2011 8:41 PM CST reply actions 4 recs

Nailed it again, Stroh

Nelson is a long strider…he kind of reminds me of John Taylor, SF Niners. Under the radar, deceptive speed, but big play ability.

Nelson is to Jennings what Taylor was to Rice.

Beebe was a speedster, lots of guts — but totally different like you said.

by PackFaninFL on Nov 16, 2011 9:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

I agree

and rec. Jordy Nelson is the one and only Jordy Nelson. He’s nothing like Don Beebe except the color of his skin. Is James Starks the next Barry Sanders because he’s black? I think not! Beebe was a fast and reliable receiver. Nelson is more physical with YAC and is also reliable. He has deceiving speed, but not like Beebe. They are two very different receivers.

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by Jabooty on Nov 17, 2011 7:58 AM CST up reply actions

Jordy is nothing like Beebe, you are right. I think Jordy is making a statement that he’s going to be much more than that.

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by TrevorR on Nov 17, 2011 8:44 AM CST up reply actions

if you have to pick a white receiver to liken him to, Ed McCafrey would be a much more apt comparison

football does not build character, it reveals character.

by sheehan on Nov 17, 2011 1:18 PM CST up reply actions

but I hate Ed McCaffrey

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by Wiedmann on Nov 17, 2011 2:24 PM CST up reply actions

How about Wes Welker then?

I KID I KID!!!!!!! :-D

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by TrevorR on Nov 17, 2011 3:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Apparently facebook has subscribers now...

…and for some strange reason the only person who has subscribed to my account is Wes Welker. True story.

13.

Grossman: Sup, you insulin needing bitch! The sex cannon has arrived! Now get the hell out of my locker room, you chinless mother fucker!

by Wiedmann on Nov 17, 2011 5:06 PM CST up reply actions

Its a trap!

In Every Climb and Place....

by PhoenicianPakFan on Nov 17, 2011 5:08 PM CST up reply actions

Thanks Stroh. I saw this post and thought the same thing, was about to post something probably pretty bitter towards the author.

I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!

by msc32887 on Nov 19, 2011 10:32 AM CST up reply actions

Like Stroh, I don’t know if Beebe is the best comparison but I like the write up. Definitely made me laugh a few times. Thanks!

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by packallday555 on Nov 16, 2011 10:18 PM CST reply actions

Yeah, the write up was very good. Thanks, keep up the good work.

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by TrevorR on Nov 17, 2011 8:46 AM CST up reply actions

Kuhn and Vick

Kuhn would be a good match with Mike Vick, whose longest TD pass this season is 11 yards. Kuhn would finally be considered a deep threat if playing with the Eagle offense and would demand double coverage.

Yeah, the Beebe – Jordan comparison isn’t quite there. I can’t think of any comparable Packers; perhaps Sterling Sharpe, who could turn a two yard pass into a ten yard gain with brute force or get deep for forty. Nelson has that same combo of speed and power.

Nitschke never wore an earring!

by Packer Pete on Nov 17, 2011 6:50 AM CST reply actions

Jordy in some perspective...

2008 NFL Draft WR’s

1st Round
None Taken

2nd Round
33 St. Louis Rams Donnie Avery Houston
34 Washington Redskins Devin Thomas Michigan State
36 Green Bay Packers Jordy Nelson Kansas State
41 Buffalo Bills James Hardy Indiana
42 Denver Broncos Eddie Royal Virginia Tech
46 Cincinnati Bengals Jerome Simpson Coastal Carolina
49 Philadelphia Eagles DeSean Jackson California
53 Pittsburgh Steelers Limas Sweed Texas
58 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Dexter Jackson Appalachian State

3rd Round
70 Chicago Bears Earl Bennett Vanderbilt
81 Arizona Cardinals Early Doucet LSU
84 Atlanta Falcons Harry Douglas Louisville
95 New York Giants Mario Manningham Michigan
97 Cincinnati Bengals Andre Caldwell Florida Compensatory

4th Round
105 Kansas City Chiefs William Franklin Missouri
106 Baltimore Ravens Marcus Smith New Mexico
125 Oakland Raiders Arman Shields Richmond
126 Tennessee Titans Lavelle Hawkins California
128 St. Louis Rams Keenan Burton Kentucky

5th Round
136 Detroit Lions Kenneth Moore Wake Forest
153 New England Patriots Matthew Slater UCLA

6th Round
171 New York Jets Marcus Henry Kansas
174 San Francisco 49ers Josh Morgan Virginia Tech
182 Kansas City Chiefs Kevin Robinson Utah State
191 Cleveland Browns Paul Hubbard Wisconsin
193 Minnesota Vikings Jaymar Johnson Jackson State
205 Indianapolis Colts Pierre Garçon Mount Union Compensatory

7th Round
215 Baltimore Ravens Justin Harper Virginia Tech
217 Green Bay Packers Brett Swain San Diego State
224 Buffalo Bills Steve Johnson Kentucky
226 Oakland Raiders Chaz Schilens San Diego State
237 New Orleans Saints Adrian Arrington Michigan
246 Cincinnati Bengals Mario Urrutia Louisville Compensatory
248 Chicago Bears Marcus Monk Arkansas Compensatory

UDFA
Danny Amendola
Davone Bess

Only one that really outshines Jordy is Desean Jackson. I think that is mainly do to the fact he was put in place to be the immediate #1 WR in Philly.

If we assume that Jackson is in that class of his own, the next best are Jordy, Garcon, Manningham, and Bess. Then after them, Amendola, Bennett, and maybe Josh Morgan.

I think he is an excellent weapon for Rodgers. IN TT WE TRUST.

That dog just won't hunt.

by Bush League All Star on Nov 18, 2011 2:31 AM CST reply actions 2 recs

BLAS4FANPOST!

by mike_o on Nov 18, 2011 2:47 AM CST up reply actions

Steve Johnson? Isn't that Buffalo's #1 before he got hurt?

Doucet is AZ’s #2 or 3.
And Eddie Royal has been good for the Broncos.

In Every Climb and Place....

by PhoenicianPakFan on Nov 18, 2011 3:12 AM CST up reply actions

Damn it, I knew I forgot Stevie Johnson.

That dog just won't hunt.

by Bush League All Star on Nov 18, 2011 12:40 PM CST up reply actions

Desean Jackson?

I wouldn’t take Jackson over Jordy. And Maclin is Philly’s #1 receiver, not Jackson.

by MikeDB on Nov 18, 2011 9:17 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

At the time though,

Jackson was the 2008 pick and Maclin in 2009. I should have made that point a little more clear.

That dog just won't hunt.

by Bush League All Star on Nov 18, 2011 12:43 PM CST up reply actions

I’ve lived in the Philly area and so watched a lot of Eagle games, and all I meant is that Jackson plays the role more of a 2nd WR than a #1. Maclin is the primary guy, and Jackson is used to try and break big ones.

by MikeDB on Nov 18, 2011 4:11 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah I understand that.

What I am saying though…

Is that for 2008, he was drafted to pretty much be the number one for that season. They had guys like Kevin Curtis, Hank Baskett, and Jason Avant. That is different now, of course as you describe. Back then they literally had nothing, now they have a lot of talent.

That dog just won't hunt.

by Bush League All Star on Nov 18, 2011 5:37 PM CST up reply actions

okay

by MikeDB on Nov 18, 2011 9:20 PM CST up reply actions

They must have won the SB that year

They had…Hank Baskett

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by Wiedmann on Nov 19, 2011 1:20 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs

There are some decent WRs in that draft. Would be interesting to see how good some of them would look with Rodgers throwing them the ball. STeve Johnson, D Jackson, Bennett, Garcon, Manningham, Douglas. Some potential in the draft, but it lacks the high end stud WRs that you usually see. Jordy is probably the closest thing.

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by TrevorR on Nov 18, 2011 9:49 AM CST up reply actions

That’s interesting to look at. I think I’d actually take Nelson over Jackson. He’s essentially just turned into a big play artist. That’s valuable for sure but Nelson is a pretty good deep threat but he can run all the other routes too. Where as, Jackson doesn’t seem to be willing too.

One guy that might be better than both is Steve Johnson. Pretty crazy that he was a 7th round pick.

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by packallday555 on Nov 18, 2011 10:32 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs

Garcon

I think that this year was going to be Garcon’s big step forward. Coming out of Div III he had some major adjustments to make. (He was bigger and faster than anyone he went up against.) Then last year he had a lot of injury problems. This year the Colts are playing without a quarterback, which is hard on the stats for a WR. If Manning comes back strong, I’d look for Garcon to have a real break out next season.

by MikeDB on Nov 18, 2011 11:05 AM CST up reply actions

Yeah I am with you on Desean…he’s just a deep threat which means short career and lots of up and down games. I’ll take Jordy over him right now easily.

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by TrevorR on Nov 18, 2011 1:04 PM CST up reply actions

Everyone loves Jordy now...

During the offseason we had some discussions about him and it sure seemed there were alot of people, at least people that argued w/ me, about him. I always maintained that Jordy was new to the position having been a HS QB and college safety early, that he had alot to learn about playing WR, not just in the NFL but in general. So it seemed pertinent to provide this.

The trouble with the 6-foot-3, 217-pound Nelson is that he defies easy characterization. A high-school quarterback who went to Kansas State as a walk-on and was immediately converted to safety, he has only played receiver for seven years – his final three with the Wildcats, and now he’s in his fourth NFL season – and is just coming into his own at the position.

That last line should really stick out! Just coming into his own! Pretty much what I’ve been saying. Course now noone will be coming out to say you were among the many that didn’t believe in Jordy, cuz he’s doing so well,

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by Strohman on Nov 20, 2011 12:01 AM CST reply actions

I really liked Jordy after the draft

However, I’m willing to admit that I doubted him when he didn’t seem to perform right off the bat.

"I'm here to talk about the economy today -- about the need to get four quarters of strong, consistent performance. That wasn't another Jay Cutler joke, I swear. It could be, but it's not."

by Kuhl on Nov 20, 2011 12:58 AM CST up reply actions