On The National Anthem, Ejections, Injuries, The Blitz, and Megatron

by Brandon on Nov 25, 2011 7:02 AM CST in Green Bay Packers News

Former ‘Idol’ Lauren Alaina flubs national anthem - Entertainment - Access Hollywood - TODAY.com. What's so hard about singing the national anthem when the Packers play? The curse of Christina Aquilera!

Delusion and reality for Ndamukong Suh - NFC North Blog - ESPN. Evan Dietrich-Smith was fighting him, but Suh's retaliatory head stomp and kicks are without defense. The most troubling thing is that Suh doesn't think he did anything wrong.

Green Bay Packers news | Green Bay Packers CB Pat Lee must learn to keep his cool | Green Bay Press Gazette. I've seen some players get away with a glancing shot to the head, but this one happened right in front of the ref. The head shot didn't seem intentional, but his intent was to hit him.

Green Bay Packers news | Green Bay Packers LBs Desmond Bishop, A.J. Hawk out with calf injuries | Green Bay Press Gazette. Bishop's injury could be serious. Hawk could be back for their next game.

Little-used backups deliver for Packers - JSOnline. But as we learned last season, the Packers have a lot of depth. D.J. Smith reminds me of how Bishop played back in 2007 and 2008: a solid tackler with some concerns in pass coverage. Despite the interception by Robert Francois, I would expect Smith would play ahead of him if only one backup middle linebacker is needed.

Packers 'don't plan on losing anytime soon' - NFC North Blog - ESPN. Kevin Seifert points out that Dom Capers rarely sent more than four pass rushers. And when he did, it didn't seem like the blitz got to Stafford anyway. I don't know if that really was the strategy coming into the game. Capers may have seen that Stafford was quick to throw no matter the pressure, and took advantage of it by dropping more players in coverage. Stafford had some big completions when he took his time and waited for a receiver to come open.

Green Bay Packers news | Green Bay Packers CB Tramon Williams holds Detroit Lions WR Calvin Johnson in check | Green Bay Press Gazette. Credit should also go to Morgan Burnett, who often covered Johnson deep to bracket him. Johnson just wasn't open for most of the game. Except for the time Jarrett Bush lined up in coverage, and Johnson spun him around like a top.

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I'm telling you, enough with these jagoffs that don't know the lyrics to their own national anthem...

Just let a marching band play it.

by mike_o on Nov 25, 2011 7:03 AM CST reply actions

i like when school choirs do it,

not when a paid musician does. seems kids really love being a prt of it, and they sound so sweet. gets to me every time.

In love with the new Gaknar avatar.

by threadkiller on Nov 25, 2011 10:59 AM CST up reply actions

Chicago always has a kickass national anthem,.

I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!

by msc32887 on Nov 25, 2011 2:41 PM CST up reply actions

Who's the guy that usually does it at Blackhawks games?

He looks like Wolf Blitzer a bit, so the name escapes me now, but he always does a damn fine job with the anthem.

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by P-Townfan on Nov 25, 2011 9:14 PM CST up reply actions

I just read that ESPN blog post.

Here’s a better one from the Detroit Free Press:

Link

He goes through and breaks apart every version of Suh’s “explanation”.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Nov 25, 2011 7:22 AM CST reply actions

I like how it gets in a dig at Nickelback too

Zing!

"If only a face could talk" -- John Madden

by wibrownguy on Nov 25, 2011 9:42 AM CST up reply actions

Great article

He is an incredible player: Hall of Fame talent combined with world-class relentlessness. But he needs to borrow somebody else’s head.

NOT LITERALLY, NDAMUKONG. PUT THAT HEAD BACK. NOW.

This should have been a great day in Lions history: Finally, a Thanksgiving Day game in Detroit that the nation wanted to watch. Oh, sure, we had to listen to Nickelback, but Nickelback only played one song. You know the one. It sounds like all their other songs.

Bad, angry and stupid is no way to go through Thanksgiving, son.

"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

"It's a great day to be great, baby!"

Skol is a four-letter word.

The Munsters of the Midway still suck!

by NorthStarr on Nov 26, 2011 1:30 PM CST up reply actions

I may be overreacting a bit

But Suh seems like a pretty big sociopath. The guy seems to have no regard for anyone else’s personal safety and then the way he acts after, like he did nothing. It’s become clear that’s he’s not nasty or plays with a mean streak like say, Kevin Williams, he’s just dirty.

by Charlie Kelly on Nov 25, 2011 10:01 AM CST via mobile reply actions 6 recs

Off the Field

WHere it really matters he is by all accounts a fine, humble young man! Don’t confuse what happens on the field w/ being a sociopath in society! Certainly, and correctly he is taking as much flack for his “explantion” of the events. At the very least using the word sociopath is a poor choice of words… If this is the worst thing that Suh ever does in his life he is a far better person than most and being a productive member of society.

You've been Stroh'd™!!!

by Strohman on Nov 25, 2011 10:12 AM CST up reply actions

ummmm

So you’re saying most productive members of society have done something worse than curb stomp a guy at work?

Steve
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by stigmo on Nov 25, 2011 10:36 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

He's given millions to the schools he's attended.

That seems pretty productive! And far outweighs something that happens on a football field. Not condoning his actions on the field, but the football field is a LONG way from society!!

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by Strohman on Nov 25, 2011 12:40 PM CST up reply actions

I’d love to get a list of the places violence is acceptable. Also, how much money does one have to donate to make a violent attack acceptable?

Steve
http://nohuddleoffense.blogspot.com

by stigmo on Nov 25, 2011 2:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs

It doesn't.

High profile individuals generally will donate some insignificant portion of their salary (still a large amount, but nothing compared to what they’re pulling in) in order to maintain the image that is either required of them with their job (such as the NFL) or to generate positive public appeal as you saw in Stroh’s comment above. Suh has agents who control PR and such, this is a common method to get people to say….oh, well at least he’s charitable!

by msc32887 on Nov 25, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs

There happens to be alot of things that happen on the field

That aren’t tolerated in society! Surely you realize that… Which was my point. What happens on the field is a FAR cry from being a sociopath. And this is not to dismiss or minimize Suh’s conduct on the field! IMO, he clearly deserves a suspension for 3 games and maybe the remainder of the season given his other acts on the field. But that also should not have any bearing on his conduct or productiveness to society at large.

Violence is a fact of life in the NFL. Talk to players who say that in piles w/ a loose ball there is no hold barred, kicking, spitting and shots in the nads! Don’t let what happens on the field distract you into thinking he isn’t a good person in society.

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by Strohman on Nov 25, 2011 3:45 PM CST up reply actions

There are also things that happen on the field that are not tolerable on the field

by Lucky Loser on Nov 25, 2011 4:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

No doubt...

And clearly that is one of them. Was completely outside the realm of the game and Suh let his emotions get the best of him.

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by Strohman on Nov 25, 2011 5:18 PM CST up reply actions

Start your list

with a boxing rink and a hockey ring.

"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

"It's a great day to be great, baby!"

Skol is a four-letter word.

The Munsters of the Midway still suck!

by NorthStarr on Nov 26, 2011 1:18 PM CST up reply actions

I think you switched some words there...

13.

Grossman: Sup, you insulin needing bitch! The sex cannon has arrived! Now get the hell out of my locker room, you chinless mother fucker!

by Wiedmann on Nov 26, 2011 1:41 PM CST up reply actions

Yes, I did.

Glad you’re awake.

I was at the fights, once, when a hockey game broke out.

"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

"It's a great day to be great, baby!"

Skol is a four-letter word.

The Munsters of the Midway still suck!

by NorthStarr on Nov 26, 2011 4:53 PM CST up reply actions

Cue Clutch16 meme

"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

"It's a great day to be great, baby!"

Skol is a four-letter word.

The Munsters of the Midway still suck!

by NorthStarr on Nov 26, 2011 4:55 PM CST up reply actions

Hockey Fights

13.

Grossman: Sup, you insulin needing bitch! The sex cannon has arrived! Now get the hell out of my locker room, you chinless mother fucker!

by Wiedmann on Nov 26, 2011 5:38 PM CST up reply actions

I did say I was probably overreacting

And sociopath was the wrong word. It’s just that all I know about Suh is what I’ve seen on the field where’s he’s frequently making dirty plays without any remorse. I guess I was just mostly bothered by his press conference, even Haynesworth was a little repentant. That being said, it’s probably just immaturity.

by Charlie Kelly on Nov 25, 2011 10:45 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs

I honestly think it wasn't all Suh

It all starts with the coach. He’s instilled a sense of immaturity and lack of discipline in his players. I wouldn’t be surprised if he encouraged Suh not to apologize. All speculative, of course, but remember how Schwartz acted like a little baby during the press conference after his hissy fit (SF game)? It’s reminiscent. If Suh sees his coach pull that BS, he’s probably going to follow suit because it’s acceptable in his mind.

I’m not saying we shouldn’t blame Suh, but we should also take it a step further and blame his coach for creating the mentality that would push a player to stomp on some guy’s arm.

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by DCO'sfan on Nov 25, 2011 3:18 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs

I agree w/ that...

The HC sets the tone for the team and he isn’t doing enough to change the perception if not allowing it.

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by Strohman on Nov 25, 2011 3:47 PM CST up reply actions

anthem

disappointment. Not only did she suck, I wanna see somebody cool foul up as opposed to a tenth place american idol contestant. That’s detroit Detroit for heavens sake! couldn’t the team host stevie wonders harmonica coach for a game?

by Wade V on Nov 25, 2011 10:42 AM CST reply actions

Yeah, I wish the crowd would have pelted her with garbage

so sick of these prima donna b*tches f-ing up our national anthem

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by AdamA on Nov 25, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions

For one, I'm not sure how you decided she was a Prima Donna?

Secondly, her singing voice wise was great it’s just awful that she messed up the lyrics, same issue as Aguilera
And lastly, it was probably an American Idol contestant because of Fox, it happens a lot on Fox broadcasts . I’m only concerned with her messing up the lyrics and the great Motown city of Detroit not being able to book a better halftime show than fucking Nickelback.

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Nov 25, 2011 11:51 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs

For the record

Nickelback = excrement

I like Hamburgers!

by Grumps on Nov 25, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs

The NFL chose the halftime performers, not the team.

No slogans. Just win!!!

by drgarnett on Nov 25, 2011 12:57 PM CST up reply actions

I don't condone Lee's retalitory strike

But he wasn’t the only player at fault on that play. He was being held all the way down the field by two of their guys, something the refs completely missed. He was continued to be held well after the play was over. Then when he pushed the guys to separate himself, the Lions player gets his hand under Lee’s helmet and starts pushing up, right into his throat. Lee then slaps him and gets the flag.

Lee shouldn’t have slapped him, but I hardly fault the guy. There is a hand on his throat pushing upwards and back. The refs should have ejected the lions player, as well as throwing flags for holding and unnecessary roughness on the Lions/

by Shoes31 on Nov 25, 2011 1:49 PM CST reply actions 1 recs

I just had subway for lunch.

Tasted good. Stomped on a puppy on my way out.

There is nothing wrong with me cheering for players that are former players for my teams. Unless they become a Viking.

by Giant_in_la_area on Nov 25, 2011 2:18 PM CST via mobile reply actions 2 recs

The gloves are off, now.

by msc32887 on Nov 25, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions

Nickelback

I don’t now much about Nickelback. Why are people so against them? I realize that someone might just say that they suck, but why do you say that?

by MikeDB on Nov 25, 2011 3:36 PM CST reply actions

Well Mike...

I realize that someone might just say that they suck, but why do you say that?

Sure I could go on about how every song sounds the same, or the lyrics are all seemingly about his crank, or how they are just annoying, or how they are an embarassment to our Country…but I won’t….

Some things just are truths and there is no need for further questioning…

I like Hamburgers!

by Grumps on Nov 25, 2011 4:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

well Nickelback is Canadian, so the embarassment falls on my country, unfortunately...

you’re off the hook.

You guys are still to blame for Gaga and Twilight though

football does not build character, it reveals character.

by sheehan on Nov 25, 2011 5:40 PM CST up reply actions

No, we blame Twilight on the country of Deseret

by osc630 on Nov 25, 2011 7:46 PM CST up reply actions

I'd almost rather sit through a hundred Nickleback concerts

Before watching that garbage once Un-Riffed. Or else be really, really friggin drunk like this guy

When life gives ya lemons, shut up and eat your damn lemons.
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by P-Townfan on Nov 25, 2011 9:17 PM CST up reply actions

Rifftrax is the only way to make Twilight bearable

But only in combination with heavy drinking.

by osc630 on Nov 26, 2011 11:01 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Lyrics that take as little creativity as a country song without touching on the redneck love chord of many the way country does

They scatter musical components in the songs where the drum often don’t match the guitar and bass, etc.
They use power chords, the same way other terrible bands like Creed and Daughtry do
All of the songs sound the same

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Nov 25, 2011 4:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

If you like music, then you shouldn't like Nickelback

by Lucky Loser on Nov 25, 2011 4:37 PM CST up reply actions

all of their songs sound the same

football does not build character, it reveals character.

by sheehan on Nov 25, 2011 5:41 PM CST up reply actions

Thank you

Now, I understand. While I’ve heard of them, that is about it.

by MikeDB on Nov 25, 2011 8:44 PM CST up reply actions

Lots of reasons, but this is my #1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2pXfAK8r1k

nickelback is nothing more than a band who writes none of their own stuff and keeps pumping generic catalog garbage out of their ass to make money. it’s not art, it’s just a way to make money by tricking people stupid enough to listen to this trash into buying more of it.

13.

Grossman: Sup, you insulin needing bitch! The sex cannon has arrived! Now get the hell out of my locker room, you chinless mother fucker!

by Wiedmann on Nov 26, 2011 1:19 AM CST up reply actions

Lee's Ejection

I agree with shoes31. Lee should not have retaliated (the refs call it every single time.),but when the refs ejected Lee,they should have ejected those two muggers masquerading as Detroit Lions as well.What those two thugs did to Lee would have gotten them the same fate as Erik Walden – if it happened on the street.

Speaking of Walden, I believe it would be safe to say that IF he did it (shades of O.J. Simpson), Walden will no longer be a Green Bay Packer,because the organization will not stand for it. We had enough of that stuff during Forrest Gregg"s tenure (remember Frankie Neal? Charles Martin? and lowest of all, Mossy[the aunteater] Cade?) – we don’t need that trash around here…that is…IF he did it!

Sometimes you kick...sometimes you get kicked-INXS

by FondyShotgun28 on Nov 25, 2011 9:17 PM CST reply actions 1 recs