Recap: Scouting The Giants During Their Monday Night Loss To The Saints

by Brandon on Nov 29, 2011 10:01 AM CST in Green Bay Packers Games

To anyone who was casually watching, it looked like the Giants were blown out by the Saints, 49-24. Their defense never game them a chance to win.

But their offense showed some signs of life. Most of the damage was done (two late touchdown passes to Victor Cruz) after the Giants were already down by 25 points. But some earlier drives were promising, and they showed that their passing offense can be dangerous.

Giants defense. It was a debacle. Osi Umenyiora left early with an injury, and the Giants had trouble pressuring Drew Brees. Bad things happen to defenses that give him time to throw, at home, with all of the receiving options at his disposal. Also, the Saints gashed them in the running game (205 yards). While the Packers aren't going to rush for 205 against anyone, the Giants defense isn't going to have any better luck stopping Aaron Rodgers and his multiple receiving options. Though the Packers won't have such ideal passing conditions next week.

Giants offense. I was really surprised that they're last in the league with 3.2 ypc. I've been waiting to see if a team will take advantage of the Packers suspect run defense, but the Giants don't appear to be that team. Their pass offense is certainly good, but they had trouble finishing a couple early drives against the Saints. Eli Manning threw an interception in the end zone, and dropped passes ended another one. Nonetheless, they'll at least manage a lot of yards passing against the Packers.

The Giants defense looked awful against the Saints, and they seem an unlikely nemesis to Aaron Rodgers. Everything is trending the way of the Packers. Or could the Giants put it all together for one game and upset the Packers?

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A wounded animal

is what the Giants will be like next week.With them playing in Dallas the following week and though some may not agree but,a coaching job may be available in NY very soon.
I would have preferred the Giants to play a better/tighter game in NO giving them the illusion of being able to handle the Packers.However,we now play them in a last gasp game.
Since Tramon shut down MegaMouse,I’m sure he will do us right against the Cruz-o-Matic that Eli needs to have any chance at all.

by Tarynfor12 on Nov 29, 2011 10:23 AM CST reply actions

Wonder if the Giants will take another Jacksonville reject now that Del Rio is looking for work

Coughlin is definitely past his sell-by date. Injuries aren’t helping, but the Saints carved ’em up good.

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by Clutch16 on Nov 29, 2011 10:26 AM CST up reply actions

That's what everyone thought last year.

After that EPIC collapse to the eagles, every analyst in the sun said The Giants would be chomping at the bit to redeem themselves. That and it was a battle for the last playoff spot. We all know how that went. This is the same Giants team we have seen since 2008. They start great but just quit in the second half of the season.

I’m not saying we should over look them, because they have the potential to be good, but if we come out and score fast and often we could be seeing this face all day.

by stratefaced on Nov 29, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Yeah--Don't overlook them...Any team can beat another on any Sunday..Period!!

by Buddyruff on Nov 29, 2011 9:05 PM CST up reply actions

Wut?

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by NorthStarr on Nov 30, 2011 1:04 AM CST up reply actions

yea...I meant under

My word putting together ain’t so good all the time.

by stratefaced on Nov 30, 2011 10:12 AM CST up reply actions

Like a feather, just floatin' on the Brees

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by Clutch16 on Nov 29, 2011 10:24 AM CST reply actions

Many outcomes are possible (Giants > Packers). Few (Packers > Giants) are likely.

by Ebongreen on Nov 29, 2011 10:42 AM CST reply actions

Without Osi, the Giants pass rush seemed weak

They gave Bressus all day in the pocket to throw to whomever he wanted, the secondary couldn’t handle the routes of Colston and Graham… I see no reason why Sunday won’t yield the same results for them, and give us an early playoff berth.

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by P-Townfan on Nov 29, 2011 10:44 AM CST reply actions

1st Quarter the key

Hit the Giants with a couple scores early and the game will be over. Eli’s a good QB, but our defense will create turnovers if you can only pass. As crazy as it seems, even if Dallas wins and the Giants lose this weekend, the Giants still control their playoff fate since they could easily beat Dallas twice. Giants really aren’t in must situation and I can’t see it mattering against the Pack. The Giants only win with worst day of year by entire offense and 3+ turnovers – not very likely.

by H3ller on Nov 29, 2011 10:50 AM CST reply actions

I agree here, they're reeling but we are pretty darn good and even as the Giants possibly fall to .500 and two games back

They control thier division if they can beat Dallas head to head so they won’t be in desperation mode yet

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Nov 29, 2011 11:33 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

I can handle this for you as a Giants fan

No, they will not upset your team. I would bet my entire bank account on that, if I were a gambling man.

by brisulph on Nov 29, 2011 11:23 AM CST reply actions

Eh, Tampa Bay was supposed to be a cupcake game for GB.

Didn’t really turn out that way.

by mike_o on Nov 29, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions

No writer I read said that about TB

If the Gnats don’t get out front early, it’ll be a typical GB win. The Pack grabs a lead and their D lets the opponent hang around until the bitter end until the snatch it away in the fourth.

by glblank on Nov 29, 2011 6:21 PM CST up reply actions

There are moments where you just say that the improbable is impossible.

And this game is turning out to be just that. At the end of the day, the injuries to that secondary will be a little too much to handle especially since the conditions are currently expected to be sunny with 50+ F. Good conditions for Rodgers and the offence to work their magic.

And since the Book of Eli had a great game Monday night I expect him to go back to the usual 18-31 255 with 2INT performance. That is the way he’s been his whole career so why would it change now. He’s the poster boy for the Giants and their inconsistency.

Packers win convincingly.

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by hawks61 on Nov 29, 2011 12:21 PM CST reply actions

Have you watched Eli this year?

Apparently not… he is the only thing that has held the Giants together. he could have a game like that, but that has not been his usual this year, at all.

by brisulph on Nov 29, 2011 12:28 PM CST up reply actions

Without Bradshaw the Giants offense is hot garbage

Brandon Jacobs is awful.

by Archibaldcrane on Nov 29, 2011 1:28 PM CST reply actions

Giants offense it too one-dimensional without Bradshaw

Yes, we all know Green Bay has allowed some passing yardage this season. But they also lead the league in INTs and are very opportunistic – especially when they are able to dial in on one aspect of the offense. Bradshaw was the only dynamic runner the Giants had. Even against an average Saints defense – Jacobs and Ware just didn’t get it done. And with Manningham out – all they really have at this point is Hakkem Nicks and Victor Cruz in the passing game.

I think you’ll see Eli pass for close to 300 yards – I think their TE Jake Ballard will have a solid game, and Nicks and Cruz will definitely have some catches, but that will be about it. Because they don’t have to devote too much to stopping the run, they’ll be able to key in on the passing game. In their last game against Detroit, the Packers were able to focus on the pas when Kevin Smith went down – and they promptly turned them over several times and ran out to a 24-0 lead.

Defensively things already looked rough for them against the Saints, and that likely won’t change against us. Their advantage has always been getting pressure with their front four, and with Osi getting hurt, they just didn’t get any pressure. If they can’t do a better job against us, no way their secondary can hold up

by rip_city_swagger on Nov 29, 2011 3:55 PM CST reply actions