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Recap: Green Bay Packers Crush Raiders, 46-16

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This game was never in doubt. The Green Bay Packers intercepted Carson Palmer on the Raiders first possession, and after one of the Raiders endless penalties, Ryan Grant took the hand off for 47 yards and a touchdown. The Packers built a 34-0 lead before the Raiders finally managed to get on the board. It wasn't the most prolific game on offense, Aaron Rodgers was held to a passer rating of under 100 for the first time this season, but it's a minor criticism.

The Raiders managed two touchdowns and 350 yards on offense, but the Packers defense was forcing turnovers and punts early in the game when it mattered. A lot of defensive guys were flying around making plays, so it's hard to point out the exceptional ones when they're all playing well. It was a big game for the backup inside linebackers. Rookie LB D.J. Smith had his first career interception on the opening drive to set the tone. LB Robert Francois grabbed an interception in the end zone, and forced a fumble near the end of the third quarter.

There was some bad. The pass protection was not great. It looked like Grant had trouble picking up the delayed inside blitz. There were some injuries too as Ryan Pickett and Brandon Saine went out with head injuries. After the game, NBC reported that Greg Jennings will have an MRI on his injured knee. That's obviously the most serious one.

More on this game at Silver And Black Pride.

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Who was the Packers MVP in their win over the Raiders?
Aaron Rodgers
302 votes
Ryan Grant
629 votes
D.J. Smith
104 votes
Robert Francois
186 votes

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Francois

Solely on the fact that he made two huge plays. Rodgers and Grant both deserve it too, and DJ Smith had a fine game as well.

12-0
Giants? Check.

by arodgb on Dec 11, 2011 7:11 PM CST reply actions  

Change your sig!

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by Clutch16 on Dec 12, 2011 3:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Changed...

Thanks…

13-0
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by arodgb on Dec 12, 2011 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

You should just put

“Change your sig!” in your sig.

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Brewers: Move along, nothin' to see here.

by Tepo6688 on Dec 12, 2011 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

voted for grant

hopefully McCarthy is right on the knee sprain diagnosis, could be a lot worse than that. grasping at straws a bit here but as A-Rod just said Jennings has 5 weeks to recover until the playoffs start

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by Wisco12 on Dec 11, 2011 7:12 PM CST reply actions  

A torn ACL is a knee sprain...

How is that good news for Jennings? A sprain of tendon or a ligament is a sprain. Varying degrees of them and we don’t know what degree Jennings is, or which ligament.

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by Strohman on Dec 11, 2011 8:40 PM CST up reply actions  

it's good news...

just the word sprain is good news.. had he come out and said “Jennings is screwed, his leg is falling off and he broken the damn thing” that would be bad. Sprain, ACL, whatever the hell YOU wanna call it since it hasnt been diagnosed yet is good news.

by MikeyG76 on Dec 11, 2011 10:02 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Haha, I just totally pictured a doctor from inner city Chicago giving that diagnosis.

I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!

by msc32887 on Dec 11, 2011 10:03 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

A knee sprain does not mean a torn ACL

That’s a worst case scenario, and we don’t even know the severity of the sprain. Plus, Mike is always vague with injury reports after a game.

by Shoes31 on Dec 11, 2011 10:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I am willing to say

That it is going to be a deep knee contusion.

Saying it is a sprain is about as vague of an answer that McCarthy can give and I am willing to say that’s why he said it.

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by uofmike on Dec 12, 2011 12:31 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

He is always vague with injuries

A knee sprain covers a lot of injuries, and then you have the different severity of sprains to consider. I hope its just a knee contusion/bruise, if so he almost assuredly will be back for the first play off game.

by Shoes31 on Dec 12, 2011 7:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Thats not what I said..

If you would READ the rest of the comment… All 2 sentences you would realize I qualified both the severity and the ligament!

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by Strohman on Dec 12, 2011 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

chill

yes all sprains have micro tears, but when we say tear on here, we mean an actual tear, where you know, he has like one strand of ligament holding his leg together. stop arguing definitions.

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by blackoutsox on Dec 12, 2011 1:58 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

stop arguing

Ha! That’ll be a cold day in hell.

Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.

Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog

Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?

by Packers3485 on Dec 12, 2011 2:14 AM CST up reply actions   4 recs

By definition...

A sprain is a TORN ligament… Sprain = tear. Go look it up!

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by Strohman on Dec 12, 2011 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

You asked for it...
An injury to a ligament that results from overuse or trauma. Sprains occurs when there is a stretch or tear in one or more ligaments, slightly elastic bands of tissue that keep the bones in place while permitting movement at a joint. The treatment of a sprain involves applying ice packs, resting and elevating the involved joint, and using anti-inflammatory medications…

Courtesy of MedicineNet.com

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by TrevorR on Dec 12, 2011 3:47 PM CST up reply actions   4 recs

I was going to say...

Sprains do involved stretching of the ligaments. Just didn’t want to bother with it. Having been a frequent “sprainer” and having most my family as various doctors and medical practitioners, I have always understood that sprains can be graded differently and can be either a tear or a stretch.

That dog just won't hunt.

by Bush League All Star on Dec 12, 2011 5:25 PM CST up reply actions  

....

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Blackhawks: Taking care of business as usual.
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by Tepo6688 on Dec 11, 2011 7:14 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

yeah I'd sti out Jennings for the final 3 weeks of the season so that he is good to go in teh second round of the playoffs.

great game by Grant and Smith and Francois continue to impress. Really just a nice job by the defense today, swarming towards the ball and keeping the pressure on Carson Palmer.

I am too drunk to taste this chicken.

by ThroughBeingCool on Dec 11, 2011 7:17 PM CST reply actions  

great game!

Funny. My big two predictions were ass wrong. I thought Finley would have a big game and Grant would suck. 0-2 on those predictions. Man, I hope Jennings is OK!

Life is too short to drink bad coffee...

by Jeigh AK on Dec 11, 2011 7:19 PM CST reply actions  

Then you should say Rodgers will never have a 158.3 passer rating this season.

When life gives ya lemons, shut up and eat your damn lemons.
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by P-Townfan on Dec 11, 2011 7:59 PM CST up reply actions  

well of course he won't

he’s a defensive tackle for the Saints, why would he even have a passer rating?

We’re talking about the Green Bay QB though

football does not build character, it reveals character.

by sheehan on Dec 11, 2011 11:27 PM CST up reply actions   4 recs

thank you!

jesus christ too many people are getting it wrong these days

NAOPOS

by blackoutsox on Dec 12, 2011 1:53 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

It's not like the guy has started a Pro Bowl or anything

People just haven’t seen his name enough

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by Clutch16 on Dec 12, 2011 3:33 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Tebow's better

Everyone knows who he is. All he does is win. Rodgers is overrated. He only one a Super Bowl and was the MVP for it. He should have won it sooner though.

"The script doesn't change for us,… As long as we're taking care of things and keeping our focus on improving the quality of play, I don't think we can be beat. If you had asked me six years ago, I would have said the same damn thing. … We expect to win every time we take the field, and I would think that every team thinks the same thing." -Mike McCarthy

by TXPackerBacker on Dec 12, 2011 10:56 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

DOH!!!

Massive fail on my part. I admit I was drunk when I typed it. wow. i hang my head in shame and pour another drink. or is it poor another drink. sigh…

Life is too short to drink bad coffee...

by Jeigh AK on Dec 13, 2011 1:30 AM CST up reply actions  

DOH!!!

Massive fail on my part. I admit I was drunk when i typed it. wow.

Life is too short to drink bad coffee...

by Jeigh AK on Dec 13, 2011 1:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Solid play in all 3 phases

Grant looked like the Grant of old. Francois continues to impress. 4 INT’s and 1 fumble recovery for the D. Solid return game by Cobb and kicking game by Crosby minus the missed PAT.

Like the rest of you, hope Jennings knee injury doesn’t keep him out for the playoffs. Key injuries are about the only thing that can keep this team from repeating.

by Icebowler on Dec 11, 2011 7:24 PM CST reply actions  

Almost went with Smith, but Rodgers again.

Grant got a downgrade from me for his pass protection.

I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!

by msc32887 on Dec 11, 2011 7:40 PM CST reply actions  

Yea...

As good as he ran the ball, he blew it too much in pass protection

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by RaY210 on Dec 11, 2011 8:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Newhouse removal from game was a "performance issue"

DANGER DANGER… Rodgers sacked 4 times, knocked down seven times. After the crushing Curry hit, Rodgers went 3 out of 9 with an INT.

From NewHouse to DogHouse. Time for Bulaga to go to Left Tackle? The single most important position, protecting The Franchise. Offensive line in borderline disarray, somewhat overlooked by our record breaking offense.

And with Jennings injury, Packer nation is holding it’s collective breath.

I don’t care if Grant average 8 years a carry…Kuhn got 46 yards on 10 carries. Raiders were a sieve. I’m still not impressed with Grant. I want a RB that can pass block, its all about The Franchise.

Rec me

Looking forward to the Packers three-peating and visiting President Ron Paul at the White House in 2013

by PackFaninFL on Dec 11, 2011 7:50 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Northstar, put all ego aside

Bill Michaels on 1250 WSSP is saying that there is “talk” that Clifton will soon be OUT FOR THE YEAR. WE are in absolute disarray in the front five. And now with the Jennings injury, this is the greatest challenge facing this team in the past 33 games. Repeat, biggest challenge facing this FRANCHISE on it’s path to immortality.

Green me so that the issues can be highlighted and discussed.

No egos.

Looking forward to the Packers three-peating and visiting President Ron Paul at the White House in 2013

by PackFaninFL on Dec 11, 2011 8:27 PM CST up reply actions  

While we're at it...

can I have a rec too?

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by RaY210 on Dec 11, 2011 8:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I like how he thinks the only way someone couldn't rec his post is if they have too big an ego.....

Projection much?

Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.

Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog

Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?

by Packers3485 on Dec 11, 2011 8:54 PM CST up reply actions   4 recs

but I said dynasty!

13.

by Wiedmann on Dec 11, 2011 8:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, my comment got plenty highlighted,

so, I guess that’ll draw enough attention to what preceded it. :)

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by NorthStarr on Dec 12, 2011 2:45 AM CST up reply actions  

I will only recommend comments when they deserve it.

Your comments do not deserve to be rec’d. End of story.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 12, 2011 9:32 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

No

Packers: Working on a dynasty.
Blackhawks: Taking care of business as usual.
Badgers:Back-to-back B1G Champions!
Brewers: Move along, nothin' to see here.

by Tepo6688 on Dec 11, 2011 8:44 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

The OL is hardly in disarray. It doesn’t make sense to switch to guys around who have been playing those positions all season long. Having continuity is a big part of OL success.

The biggest problem today was that we didn’t have Starks or Saine. Both of them have been good at picking up blitzes. I saw Grant miss 3 pick-up’s and it wouldn’t surprise me if he missed more. He’s horrid at picking up blitzers.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Dec 11, 2011 8:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Not to mention

That we are missing 2 starting OL! How do most teams do minus 2 OL starters?

You've been Stroh'd™!!!

by Strohman on Dec 11, 2011 8:55 PM CST up reply actions   4 recs

Did Saine get injured?

He was playing early in the game, but I don’t recall him playing much after the early 2nd quarter

13.

by Wiedmann on Dec 11, 2011 8:56 PM CST up reply actions  

concussion

football does not build character, it reveals character.

by sheehan on Dec 11, 2011 8:57 PM CST up reply actions  

on the plus side that's his first, so it probably isn't a long term injury

at worst, he’ll be back for Chicago

football does not build character, it reveals character.

by sheehan on Dec 11, 2011 11:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Concussions

Are different for everybody. Even if it is their first, they can have no symptoms within a few days, or still have symptoms a few weeks later.

by Shoes31 on Dec 12, 2011 7:50 AM CST up reply actions  

This
I saw Grant miss 3 pick-up’s and it wouldn’t surprise me if he missed more. He’s horrid at picking up blitzers.

Ugh, so so true. On the Safety he pretty much played two hand touch and let Flynn get destroyed.

by Danwood on Dec 12, 2011 6:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah that hit on Flynn was brutal…I remember thinking “damn I’m glad Rodgers wasn’t back there for that one!!”

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by TrevorR on Dec 12, 2011 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

No rec, but got flagged for spam.

I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!

by msc32887 on Dec 11, 2011 9:58 PM CST up reply actions   3 recs

I think we should rec everything in this post, except for his comments begging for recs.

Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.

Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog

Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?

by Packers3485 on Dec 11, 2011 11:05 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I think Grant is very valid as a winner here, but I went with Francois…I doubt we’ll ever see his name up there again and he made some HUGE plays in the game.

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by TrevorR on Dec 11, 2011 8:00 PM CST reply actions  

What was A-Rod's final Pass Rating for tonight?

Gotta have been somewhere close to 98.

When life gives ya lemons, shut up and eat your damn lemons.
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by P-Townfan on Dec 11, 2011 8:23 PM CST reply actions  

I think I saw somewhere 96.something

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by RaY210 on Dec 11, 2011 8:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Why do you think he had his worst game?

Cuz of the winds! Not like the Raiders play great pass D… Said a couple weeks ago that Rodgers passer rating would go down playing outside in the wind and cold of Lambeau in Dec/Jan. Lotta people thought it was an outrageous suggestion. Not like Rodgers had a “bad” game, but certainly not what he is accustomed to. 15 MPH winds at Lambeau on an otherwise nice weather game for Lambeau in Dec.

You've been Stroh'd™!!!

by Strohman on Dec 11, 2011 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

A bad game for A-Rodg

Is a good game for the likes of Flacco, Stafford, or Cutler.

When life gives ya lemons, shut up and eat your damn lemons.
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by P-Townfan on Dec 11, 2011 8:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't disagree w/ that...

Thats why the bad was in “..”

You've been Stroh'd™!!!

by Strohman on Dec 11, 2011 8:56 PM CST up reply actions  

this

football does not build character, it reveals character.

by sheehan on Dec 11, 2011 8:57 PM CST up reply actions  

and the lack of pass protection

football does not build character, it reveals character.

by sheehan on Dec 11, 2011 8:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Neither has ever affected his passing before?

Now you think they do? Neither the score or the pass protection has bothered Rodgers before. By your logic Rodgers should be having his worst season cuz they’ve been so far ahead all year! LOL

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by Strohman on Dec 11, 2011 9:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Large scoring margin → Rodgers being taken out → Rodgers not throwing for as many yards/TDs

13.

by Wiedmann on Dec 11, 2011 9:41 PM CST up reply actions  

except he was today in the third quarter

football does not build character, it reveals character.

by sheehan on Dec 12, 2011 12:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Talking about today.

He played on 2 drives in the 2nd half.

13.

by Wiedmann on Dec 12, 2011 12:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh ok, thought you were talking about the season.

I would still argue Rodgers was not throwing the ball as accurately this game.

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by Chief Oshkosh on Dec 12, 2011 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't make an argument?

So you resort to calling names? Real classy… Way to be such an upstanding kinda guy.

You've been Stroh'd™!!!

by Strohman on Dec 11, 2011 9:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't listen to me, take it from the OC!

Philbin said of Thursday. "Our guys adjusted pretty well. But there is a little bit (of an adjustment). I don’t know if the cold bothers as much as the wind (in practice).

This isn’t rocket science guys… Accuracy suffers in the wind. Even for a QB as great as Rodgers. Same happened to Brady down the stretch during his huge year. And Lambeau is known for swirling winds that you can’t get a read on from the flags.

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by Strohman on Dec 11, 2011 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

This isn't rocket science Strohman

You can’t put up stats in the 4th quarter when you’re taken out in the 3rd.

13.

by Wiedmann on Dec 11, 2011 9:40 PM CST up reply actions   4 recs

I gave you as much proof as is possible!

From the football expert, but you don’t want to hear it. And you call ME? argumentative?!! He could have put up more numbers but that doesn’t equate to passing efficiency does it? I wasn’t speaking to just yds here. Passer rating is about efficiency.

He had an off game against a pretty bad pass D at home and the only thing that changed was the wind, and a little cold. Draw your own conclusions! Like I said its not rocket science.

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by Strohman on Dec 11, 2011 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Not that 96 is a bad passer rating..

Its just not what Rodgers is and we are accustomed to since he’s been putting up 120+ passer ratings more often than not.

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by Strohman on Dec 11, 2011 9:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, we really need to rethink what a "bad" day from the QB really is

Rodgers has his “worst” day of the year and we win by 30, which is why I think the QB rating system is bunk. No factoring for drops and the INT that was ripped out of the receiver’s hands, but whatever.

He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…

by jarlbartar on Dec 11, 2011 11:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, we really need to rethink what a “bad” day from the QB really is.

Do you really think that’s possible? I think we are all a ‘little’ spoiled by Rodgers’ performance this season.

One game at a time...

by Jabooty on Dec 12, 2011 4:52 AM CST up reply actions  

if Finley doesn't let a TD through his hands which then got intercepted, we'd be talking about another 120ish rating game

I don’t think he was nearly as off as you’re making him out to be. I only saw him miss on a few throws, no worse than last week, and nowhere near as bad as his game against TB

football does not build character, it reveals character.

by sheehan on Dec 11, 2011 11:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Please, do me a favor..

Quote where I said that wind wasn’t a factor. Oh, wait, you can’t. You’re arguing for the sake of arguing yet again.

13.

by Wiedmann on Dec 11, 2011 10:39 PM CST up reply actions  

the only thing that changed was the wind?

god you are fucking dense. he also didn’t play the fourth quarter. hows that for change?

NAOPOS

by blackoutsox on Dec 12, 2011 1:56 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

So the fact that

The Packers were up 43-7 had no effect on his passer rating? My goodness, you are reduced to grasping at straws.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 12, 2011 9:33 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Simple

He couldn’t pad his stats with more yardage after they took him out. Also, they ran the ball in a couple times & he wasn’t so sharp after the hit from Curry.

It wasn’t his worst game. The QB who sits the 4th quarter has the best day no matter what the stats say.

by uglyfatpimplynerd on Dec 11, 2011 9:07 PM CST up reply actions  

winds?

Didnt look like the ball was affected at all by the wind. Is there something you saw that would make you say tha?t or is it just because you said the wind would make him have a bad game that you’re going with there?

by MikeyG76 on Dec 11, 2011 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Int

If Finley catches that end zone pass or the ball falls incomplete, Rodgers would have been over 100 yet again. It was a great interception, certainly very flukish. That crazy play cost Rodgers his 100 rating.

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by Packer Pete on Dec 12, 2011 5:47 AM CST up reply actions  

It was Col. Flagg?

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by Zundar on Dec 12, 2011 3:22 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Is Jennings done for the season?

Please tell me no!

Life is too short to drink bad coffee...

by Jeigh AK on Dec 11, 2011 9:10 PM CST reply actions  

Don’t know yet. All I’ve heard is that he’s got a knee sprain. They won’t be sure about the severity until the MRI comes back.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Dec 11, 2011 9:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Have a little experience.

It didn’t seem to me that Jennings knee injury is a serious, season ending type. Didn’t see anything on the play to suggest an ACL. More likely an MCL which is a 4 wk injury if serious at most. Just didn’t see anything to suggest an ACL. Was kinda hard to see what it was really… Was thinking an ankle originally, but was watching at a sports bar w/ friends and having a good time, so wasn’t watching intently.

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by Strohman on Dec 11, 2011 9:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I just saw on profootballtalk that the “chatter” they’re hearing is torn MCL.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Dec 11, 2011 9:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Guessing he'll miss the rest of the regular season.

Depends on the severity of course… A really severe MCL could be 6 or more wks, but a moderate or less is probably more likely based on what I saw.

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by Strohman on Dec 11, 2011 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

This is complete BS

MRI is still the gold standard for diagnosis of knee injuries (and will be for at lest the next 10 years if not longer) and anyone who tells you different is clueless. I read approx 25 MRI’s per day for an orthopedic group. There is no better non-invasive test for the diagnosis of ligament tears, meniscal cartilage tears, muscle injuries or bone bruises. That is why the Packers physician staff will appropriately be obtaining an MR within 24 hours. Not sure if you mean arthroscopy when you say high-def video, but the surgeon has to know what they are looking for by MR before they will ever even consider arthoscopy (surgery).

From the looks of the play, it was NOT a plant and twist noncontact blowout injury……..which is good since that type of injury typically means you bagged your ACL. In super slow-mo, it looked like his knee was bumped in the air by the defender with lateral force applied to the knee, which means he likely has an MCL sprain, the severity of which will be determined by the MR (grade I, II or II). This will, in turn determine how many weeks he will miss. Meniscal injury is always possible, but less likely, in which case arthroscopy could be performed based on the MR findings. Bone bruise and patellar injury also considered less likely based on the mechanism of injury.

by Icebowler on Dec 12, 2011 12:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Ya think?

You’d be surprised at how much people think they know based on hearsay, since I hear it every day at work. Trust me, I’ve heard a Iot of stranger things that people really believe when it comes to medicine and feel like I have to dispell the myths once in awhile. But your probably right. Thanks. My apologies to mittsabishy if he was in fact joking. Lets hope the news on Jennings is favorable.

by Icebowler on Dec 12, 2011 1:13 AM CST up reply actions  

I was making fun of Stroh.

dinasour type of guys choir boys

by mittsabishy on Dec 12, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions   3 recs

Yeah and I never said they wouldn't do an MRI!

BTW – feel free to note that my initial diagnosis was 100% correct!

Guess that means the jokes on YOU!

Our Biggest Challenge is how we deal w/ Success!

by Strohman on Dec 13, 2011 2:09 AM CST up reply actions  

WHOA! hold on a tick

‘with friends’ ?

I call BS.

football does not build character, it reveals character.

by sheehan on Dec 11, 2011 11:32 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

hey now…lets not hit below the belt guys

The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010

by TrevorR on Dec 12, 2011 3:53 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

This

I know Stroh can come off as an arrogant ass at times (sorry Stroh) but it certainly doesn’t help matters when a bunch of people gain up on him. It’d be natural for anybody to respond back strongly in that situation.

He’s told us that he’s extremely opinionated and is clearly pretty confident in his knowledge. At this point, it is what is. Everybody should know that the smart, quips back to him aren’t going to do anything more than start a chest banging war, which is something I know I’m so sick of seeing (like lots of others I’m sure). Oh, and all the rec’ing of anything ever responds back to him with is getting ridiculous. Just can’t help but feel like it’s gotten to the point where people are doing it just to do it.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Dec 12, 2011 11:14 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Oops, insert anybody in between anything and ever.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Dec 12, 2011 11:15 PM CST up reply actions  

alright, I apologize

this is no place for personal comments

football does not build character, it reveals character.

by sheehan on Dec 13, 2011 12:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Well played, pad.

Lombardi:
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

McCarthy:
"We're nobody's underdog!"
"We don't play scared!"

by NorthStarr on Dec 13, 2011 6:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Kinda my thinking. I argue with Stroh a bunch but to make a comment about him not having friends or being unable to have friends is just straight up rude. This is a community. Argue with him all you want but lets not be asses.

The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010

by TrevorR on Dec 13, 2011 7:27 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

It would be nice if it worked both ways.
Argue with him all you want but lets not be asses.

13.

by Wiedmann on Dec 13, 2011 1:09 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

yeah he makes it awfully hard to remain civil

football does not build character, it reveals character.

by sheehan on Dec 13, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

this

Stroh is headbangingly bad at being an antagonizer and he does it just for the fight

NAOPOS

by blackoutsox on Dec 13, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm going with Ryan Grant...

He established the run game early, and he ran with such power and conviction today. He did miss a couple blitz pickups but this was the most work he’s gotten all season.

by stratefaced on Dec 11, 2011 9:19 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

It's not Ryan Grant

He had a couple big runs but almost killed Rodg.

I went with Smith. He was all over the field today and did well setting the defense. He also set the tempo early with that INT.

SUPER BOWL CHAMPS

by Chief Oshkosh on Dec 11, 2011 9:31 PM CST reply actions  

Even with the lopsided score

I would say this was our worst passing performance of the season. Bad protection, and a bunch of high throws from Rodgers.

by Shoes31 on Dec 11, 2011 10:50 PM CST reply actions  

Zombo!

Just cuz’ we get to say his name so infrequently this year.

Life is too short to drink bad coffee...

by Jeigh AK on Dec 11, 2011 11:04 PM CST reply actions  

Read the Silver and Black Pride second half game thread.

LOL, they were far more concerned about the wonder of Tebow than anything to do with their game against the Packers. One of the better kill me now threads I’ve ever read.

Napoli's 27th, 28th, 29th and 30th homers of the year (four more than Jeff Mathis' career total) rained down on Angel Stadium like knives from the ceiling.

by 44FAN on Dec 12, 2011 1:27 AM CST reply actions  

Well, imagine being in thier shoes right now

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Dec 12, 2011 7:53 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Glad to see some things never change... LOL

All I have to say is:

GO PACK GO!!!

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!! Probably see ya after the season to discuss the Draft!! After we Repeat!!! (Can’t THREEPEAT UNTIL WE REPEAT!!! : )

God Bless Us ~ One and All!! : )

"SOUTHERN HILLS KENNEL" ~ We Breed The Best Bitches In TEXAS!!!

GO PACK GO!!!

by BirdDogUni on Dec 12, 2011 2:25 PM CST reply actions  

Hey man, good to see you back here.

the Packers are making it fun, huh?

Take care.

Packers: Working on a dynasty.
Blackhawks: Taking care of business as usual.
Badgers:Back-to-back B1G Champions!
Brewers: Move along, nothin' to see here.

by Tepo6688 on Dec 12, 2011 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

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