On The Green Bay Packers Win Over The Raiders
by Brandon on Dec 12, 2011 7:01 AM CST
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I've written more on the Green Bay Packers 46-16 win over the Raiders in my earlier recap. Overall, the team was very impressive in nearly every facet of the game. I was concerned about the pass protection, Aaron Rodgers took a few shots, but that hasn't been a persistent problem this season. On the other hand, while the pass defense played great against Carson Palmer, that doesn't mean they'll be great the next time they face Eli Manning or Drew Brees.
Jennings suffers knee sprain in win - JSOnline. We will know more tomorrow. It was called a "knee sprain" in the post-game press conference and it could be something a whole lot worse later on Monday.
Twitter / @MikeVandermause: McCarthy: Saine concussion ... In addition to Greg Jennings's knee sprain, Brandon Saine and Ryan Pickett each suffered a concussion. We will just have to wait and see if they clear the concussion protocols later this week.
Rapid Reaction: Packers 46, Raiders 16 - NFC North Blog - ESPN. Not only was it TE Ryan Taylor's first touchdown of the season, it was his first play from scrimmage on offense.
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The Jennings "kne sprain"
That whole article didn’t ease my concerns on him being out for the remainder of the regular season. Even though we just have to win next week to clinch the #1 seed throughout, I’d prefer to have our #1 WR out there then not.
ugh…never felt worse about our first full game dominating effort of the season. I hope you are better quickly Greg!!
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I don't know about first
The Broncos game was a pretty full domination as well. And the Vikings @ Lambeau too.
by PackApologist on Dec 12, 2011 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
We were outscored 16-15 after Jennings left!
DOOOOOOOMED!!!!!!!!!
Seriously though, Jennings is a great receiver a a huge loss but in ‘96 we lost Brooks and won SB XXXI and it’s not like we’re not very, very deep at WR, we’ll survive
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Dec 12, 2011 9:02 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Lol Rodgers left when Jennings left, I think that explains the score
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idk if this covered in the game thread or not (so forgive me if it was),
but jennings smiled and gave someone the “thumbs up” on his way to the tunnel while he was on the cart. can we read anything into that, or did he just see someone he knew?
In love with the new Gaknar avatar.
The MRI today will be more telling than a thumbs up
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Dec 12, 2011 9:04 AM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Players do that all the time, even if their leg is dangling off the cart hanging by a few tendons…
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by TrevorR on Dec 12, 2011 9:05 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
those guys usually aren't smiling, though.
but yours and buddha’s points are well taken. just looking for any reason to be optimistic. :-/
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by threadkiller on Dec 12, 2011 9:11 AM CST up reply actions
That's understandable
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Dec 12, 2011 9:24 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
If I had to guess, I'd say he found his family and let them know he wasn't dying
But that’s just a guess.
Collins gave a thumbs up as he was being carted off
The initial reports didn’t seem too serious. Now his career might be over.
I’ll wait for the MRI and take a little solace in the fact that WR is our deepest position on the roster and the PS.
by PackApologist on Dec 12, 2011 10:57 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
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I want you to soak that into every fabric of your existence for the coming days and weeks.
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by PackFaninFL on Dec 12, 2011 9:35 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I happen to like "Football gods"
Without hearing a certain Denver QB associated with that, of course
When life gives ya lemons, shut up and eat your damn lemons.
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by P-Townfan on Dec 12, 2011 10:48 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
True.
We all know John Elway was a mythical figure in Denver after the first few games of his career.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 12, 2011 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
It took Elway losing 3 Super Bowls for them to mellow out...
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 12, 2011 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
I think everyone is blowing Jennings injury way out of proportion.
Does it suck? Well yeah, but I don’t think its going to have the effect that some people think it will. Losing your #1 receiver is never a good thing, but if there was ever a team that could mitigate its effect, its this one. They run 5 deep at receiver and 4 deep at tight end. Even with Jennings out that is eight very capable receivers not counting the guys coming out of the backfield. I’m sure losing Jennings will have the domino effect of Jordy now receiving more attention from opposing defenses, but whats to say JJ can’t step up like Jordy has this year. Throw in the fact that DD is still very capable, Cobb is improving every week, and the only thing that can stop Finley is Finley and this is still a very potent offense. I’m not trying to say that losing Jennings is no big deal, but some people on here are acting like they’ll look like the current Bears offense just by losing Jennings.
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by Bezerkers on Dec 12, 2011 9:49 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
James Jones will have to step up
I think he is capable tho
by tmoneyttime1 on Dec 12, 2011 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
So will Finley...
Been dropping way too many
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Finley is the guy who has to step up
Really this is going to be like the reverse of Finley’s injury last year. Jennings has gotten most of the targets so far, but Finley has been quieter than was expected, where last year the offense ran through Finley till he got hurt and then focused on Jennings (who had a disappointing first half of last year).
Finley has been a bit of a let down this year. He’s had drops and hasn’t been targeted as much. Hell, he’s even shot his mouth off about not getting the ball as much and raising controversy about what position he’s played. This hasn’t been really bad, and he’s not made many waves, but it’s still more waves than production.
He’s the guy who is going to have to fill the shoes of Jennings and make up for the production. He’s going to have to be the guy who can make plays like Graham and either of the NE TE’s. He has to step up and put the team on his back so that the rest of the WR’s can continue to run free.
by PackApologist on Dec 12, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
yeah…He and Jones are going to have to earn their money now. How did Finley get ZERO catches yesterday by the way…
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too busy run blocking....
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by threadkiller on Dec 12, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
Finley will now get a lot more attention from the secondary
I know that he has been double-teamed quite often, but now that is going to increase. A smart defensive coordinator is going to make Jones and Driver beat them and concentrate on Finley more.
Driver will be his reliable self (though I am sure drop problems will come up)...
But I think Jones can be a guy that steps up. Understandably he is buried on the depth chart, but he still is pretty valuable. Let him prove himself here, I think he will be successful.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Dec 12, 2011 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
For me
Its Finley that has to step up. He has dropped to many balls lately (though that INT in the end zone was not on him, Rodgers needed to get some more air under it), and he needs to get some more separation.
On a fade into the endzone against the sideline...
Its kinda hard to get seperation. On that pass its not about the reciever getting open its about the placement of the ball. And your right in that Rodgers needed to get more air under the ball. Finley should not have had to reach back over the shoulders of the DB for the ball. He should have to reach UP, straight up, for the pass, not behind the DB w/ the DB’s arm between his. Ideally that ball is well over the DB and Finley is reaching straight into the air, not behind the DB’s head.
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I'm pretty sure that ball was placed directly between Finley and the DB.
Finley just straight up got pick-pocketed.
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Clinch Homefield = 1
Finley
At his highest point had to reach horizontally back toward the DB for the ball, w/ both of the DB’s arms between his own. That is not where the ball should be placed. Finley should be reaching straight into the air for the ball. Rodgers pass was not where it needed to be for Finley to have a chance at making that catch. The ball needs to be above finley’s head not the DB’s. Both of the DB’s arms were between Finley’s, that being the case its pretty much impossible for Finley to come down w/ it.
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2011121101/2011/REG14/raiders@packers#menu=highlights&tab=recap
If you stop at the :16 sec mark you can clearly see the DB’s arms pushing Finleys apart and Finley reaching horizontally, not vertically above his own head. Kinda hard to come down w/ the ball when both the DB’s arms are between your own pushing them apart and having to reach back horizontally not above you.
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Finley is way bigger and stronger than that DB
no way that DB should be able to outmuscle him that way
football does not build character, it reveals character.
The DB's arms are between Finleys and the ball.
How is Finley supposed to come down w/ the ball when the DB’s arms are in a better positon to catch the ball than his own? All the while Finley was having to reach backward/horizontally, not upward. A well placed throw is above Finleys head where the DB can’t even get his hands near the ball or Finleys arms. Then Finley size is the advantage, but when the ball is at the DB’s head in height, Finley’s size means nothing. To take advantage of Finleys size the ball should be where the DB can’t even reach it. Try catching a ball when another guy has both his arms betweeen your arms and also between you and the ball. Pretty much impossible.
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because his hands were around the ball, and he's much stronger than the DB
the same thing happened on his touchdown in San Diego.
football does not build character, it reveals character.
I agree the pass wasn’t perfect, but really you are going to put that one on Rodgers? I think your perception of passing efficiency has been scewed by how amazing Rodgers has been this year. Finley should have caught it. The pass could have been higher, but Finely should have pulled it in. He’s too talented to have someone rip that thing out of his hands.
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by TrevorR on Dec 13, 2011 7:22 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Agree
Finley failed to get his hands on the ball, which was the major reason that the ball then bounced off his chest into the arms of the defender. It would have been a tough catch with the arms of the defender between his arms, but he has to get his hands on the ball, and he didn’t do that. (The ball did graze one of his hands, but that is not what I’m talking about, when I say that he needs to get his hands on the ball.)
It could also have been a pass interference as the defender wasn’t playing the ball at all and was trying to keep Finley’s arms away from the ball. Overall, it was a good play by the DB.
yeah it definitely should have been thrown higher
that being said, it still went right through his hands and he should have had it
football does not build character, it reveals character.
Im not saying that he needed to get more speration on the fade
Never said that. I’m saying on his other routes he needs to get more separation.
This.
with or without Jennings, as long as the Packers have Rodgers healthy they’ll be a heavy favourite in every game they play, regardless of the opponent, and deservedly so
football does not build character, it reveals character.
Being the favorite (heavy or not)doesn't mean you win
my favorite ice cream is double fudge but once the cream on top is gone,it’s not the same.
By heavy favourite, I mean they are much more likely to win than to lose, regardless of opponent
football does not build character, it reveals character.
The cream on top?
What do you mean? Am I missing out on something?
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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Dec 13, 2011 1:53 PM CST up reply actions
Could We Possibly Wait.....
…..until the MRI results come in before scheduling the jump off the bridge?
by Phana24JeffGordon on Dec 12, 2011 10:09 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
no way.
bridge jumpers are way too rigid to reschedule.
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by threadkiller on Dec 12, 2011 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah I have to get this bridge jumping over with soon
I have a dentist appointment at 3
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Dec 12, 2011 10:34 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Sorry, I've got a TARDIS to jump into!
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 13, 2011 12:44 AM CST up reply actions
But I've got a bungie cord!
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Let's wait and see!
It could be nothing more that some hyper extention or a bruise. One thing for sure,
Jennings isn’t going to sit out unless he absolutely has no choice. I think we are
also forgetting Jones has been quite handy this year with few drops and real
dependable when we need a big first down. Also, our young Mr. Cobb seems to
come open when ever he is in the game. As long as we have a healthy Rodgers,
we still have the receivers but I would feel bad if Jennings can’t play for any length
of time. He makes things happen.
Although Grant had a nice game, I hated to see Saine get hurt, he was looking good
on his turns.
I am not however, going to do the bridge thing regardless. Water here is all froze now
and a guy could get hurt.
BJK
Jennings out 2-3 weeks
He should be back for the playoffs. I wouldn’t expect to see him play another down during the rest of the regular season.
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A tear in the ligaments of the knee.
Sprain = Tear, simple as that, other than varying degrees. The larger the tear the worse the severity obviously.
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I'm REALLY hoping I was wrong last night...
The good thing is that we have plenty of receiving options aside from Jennings if worse comes to worse…
With our team’s injury history, I’m terrified and yet am fully aware that I could wake up tomorrow to see the words "Greg Jennings has partially torn ACL, will miss remainder of season"…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 11, 2011 6:33 PM CST up reply actions
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 12, 2011 11:50 PM CST reply actions
seriously though, how awesome of a name is 'O'brien Schofield' ?
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Re-cap
Al Davis is spinning in his grave at this Raiders’ debacle. Of course, knowing Al, he’s selling tickets to see the phenomenon while chanting “Just spin, baby. Spin!”
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