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Preview: Green Bay Packers at Giants

A few weeks ago, this two game stretch that the Green Bay Packers are in the middle of (road games at Detroit and New York) looked formidable. Instead, the Packers defeated the Lions by a score of 27-15, and it wasn't even that close. And then on Monday night, the Giants got pasted by the Saints (49-24) in a game in which their defense gave them no chance. They now look like two teams heading in opposite directions.

Here are their rankings, according to Football Outsiders:

Packers Giants
Pass Offense 1 5
Pass Defense 21 18
Run Offense 7 23
Run Defense 27 20
Special Teams 10 18

All rankings are not created equal. The two pass defenses aren't that far apart statistically, while the Packers pass offense is much higher ranked than the Giants. If the Giants go with an extra defensive back to stop the pass, as they did for most of the game against the Saints, then the Packers could have some success running the ball. But the Giants ground attack (3.2 ypc) doesn't seem capable of taking advantage of the Packers poor run defense.

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If the Giants offense can attack down field like the Chargers did against the Packers, then they could have a big game. However, if they're forced into short passes like the Lions and Falcons were, then they'll be hard pressed to score more than 14 points. The Packers have done a lousy job of covering running backs in pass coverage, but unless Ahmad Bradshaw can practice this week, the Giants might not be able to take advantage of it.

The Packers offense should be able to protect Aaron Rodgers (the Giants only have 3 sacks in their last 3 games) and the Giants were unable to take away either the deep ball or the short passes from Drew Brees. The Giants will probably be asking a lot from their safeties, to cover the deep middle and protect against the run, and that didn't go so well last season. The Packers do tend to score slightly worse on the road (39 points per game at home versus 31 on the road), so the Giants got that going for them.

The Giants could turn this game into a shooting match, but no matter what has happened this season, Rodgers has been up to the task and outplayed every opponent. One of these days, some defense is going to figure him, but the Giants don't appear to possess that defense.

Packers 31, Giants 20. For more on this upcoming game, check out Big Blue View.

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Eli is a key

Hot-and-cold Manning is about due for another outstanding game.

I think the best strategy is to get ahead early to take away the run option and force Eli to play catch-up.

by Sagrimore on Dec 2, 2011 10:12 AM CST reply actions  

i'm leery of jacobs in this game.

we saw what legarrette blount did to us. of course, victor cruz frightens me too. additionally, i don’t like a wounded animal which is what the giants are right now. it’ll take a better than a “B” effort to secure this win, in my opinion. 40-36 pack.

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by threadkiller on Dec 2, 2011 10:17 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah we struggle against big backs like Blount and Turner...

That said, Jacobs is not the player he once was

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by Chief Oshkosh on Dec 2, 2011 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

I have never such a big running back run the ball so soft.

Jacobs tip-toes around like he’s a 180 pound scatback

football does not build character, it reveals character.

by sheehan on Dec 2, 2011 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree

Jacobs does not run hard… He also runs tall which causes him to lose alot of the power he would otherwise have. He is not nearly as good as Blount who is both a powerful and hard runner and plays like it. Jacobs doesn’t bother me in the least!

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by Strohman on Dec 2, 2011 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Predictable

Giants’ likely game plan is not rocket science: pound Jacobs to exploit Packers’ porous run-D (with subs at LB) and keep Rodgers off the field; keep Rodgers on the move with blitzes; use Cruz to occupy Woodson while the rest of the receivers despoil the Packers’ vulnerable secondary; rely on “good Eli” to show up for a shoot-out. Can it work? Maybe, if Coughlin hasn’t lost the team. He’s coaching for his job, the team facesplayoff elimination, they were humiliated by the Saints; there’s the incentive of salvaging a lost season by ending the Packers’ undefeated string/season. Outcome may depend on Pack intensity/emotion, rather than pure competence.

by 1-10-1 on Dec 2, 2011 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Are you sayin Jacobs runs hard and with power?

I haven’t seen that from him since before he signed a new contract. Since then he runs soft and tall… Not too hard to defend! Please… PLEASE blitz Rodgers!! Did you know Rodgers QB rating is better vs the blitz than it is vs coverage? Guess not…

Woodson is gonna be all over the field not just lined up on Cruz. I am more than comfortable w/ Shields on Cruz (speed on speed) and letting Woodson freelance and make plays! Tramon will match w/ Nicks (fun to watch matchup) and Woodson will be free to create plays. Eli is good or bad… Rarely in between. given all the playmakes in the Packers secondary, much more likely to be “Bad Eli” this week!

Only wildcard is Stahans speech. He may motivate the DL to play the game of their lives. Too bad he won’t be on the field… He would help vs Rodgers. Without him your DL isn’t too intimidating.

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by Strohman on Dec 2, 2011 8:17 PM CST up reply actions  

???
Only wildcard is Stahans speech.

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by Wiedmann on Dec 2, 2011 11:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Here,

From NJ.com

"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

"It's a great day to be great, baby!"

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by NorthStarr on Dec 3, 2011 5:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Jacobs still has his moments

just ask Roman Harper.

is it true that Rodgers is better against the blitz? because i read somewhere this week that his completion pct. dips to about 54% when he’s pressured. now that’s not to say the pressure comes from the blitz, but i’m sure some of it was against blitzing opponents.

Cruz is speedy, but not fast persay. he gets in and out of his cuts quick, but will not run away from you with ease if he gets past you. so i think what you need to watch out for with him is his route running, moreso than his speed.

how has tramon’s play been this year? i remember watching him last year and thinking he’s gonna be that next class of DBs to watch for(along with the Revis’ of the world) haven’t heard his name much this year tho.

Bad Eli doesn’t come out to play as often as he used to. his TO ratio is way down from last year(which IMO was an outlier, not the norm) and he’s basically been the 4th best passer this year, after the big 3. but you guys do have some ball hogs, so we’ll see what happens.

Stray’s speech is overrated. even the DLinemen said he was just in the facility and came in the room and gave pounds and hugs, and a good luck Sunday word or two. far from the ‘win one for the gipper’ speech the media tried to make it.

somethings going on with the DL…been much less effective this past month than the rest of the season. Osi’s out, so that’s good for you guys. And our all world Tuck is a shell of himself this season, literally playing with injuries from head to toe. Still, watch out for JPP, kid’s a beast, and played his best ball when Osi was recovering from surgery earlier in the year. we’re still among the league leaders in getting to the QB, so i wouldn’t dismiss them quite yet.

gonna be fun

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by wilddre22 on Dec 3, 2011 12:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Tramon

Injured his shoulder early in the season which really slowed him down for a while.

by Wisfan on Dec 3, 2011 1:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Rodgers is better against the blitz?

Ken Flajole, the Rams’ defensive coordinator, set forth the dilemma involved in blitzing Rodgers.

As he’s gotten better every year and beaten pressure with the quick throws, I think people are going to dial the pressure back on him a little bit and be more willing to play coverage. When you’re playing against some of the elite quarterbacks, most coordinators tend to lean away from pressuring those guys and lean more toward coverage. They’re saying, ’Hey, listen. this guy recognizes pressure. He’s going to get the ball out fast and pressure’s not going to get home. Why do we want to single our defensive backs and linebackers on their skill guys? are we really getting anything out of it? Or are we rolling the dice and putting more pressure on us?

Not sure about better against the blitz, but the best QB against the blitz. His numbers may dip a little bit when being blitzed, but they’re still pretty good, and there’s a chance he’ll burn you for 6. It’s an interesting risk/reward that I am glad I don’t have to make as a defensive coordinator trying to stop him.

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by Wiedmann on Dec 3, 2011 3:01 AM CST up reply actions  

please, a speech?

players don’t even hear those by this time in their careers. they’ve heard so many of them, i doubt half of them even pretend to listen.

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by threadkiller on Dec 3, 2011 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

I just thought

Strahan might have been trying to motivate his former teammates to step up their level of play after being abused lately. Apparently, he didn’t even try. Really the only chance the Gents have is to get alot of pressure on Rodgers w/ a 4 man rush and maybe creating some turnovers w/ the pressure. I didn’t think it would be a huge boost, but it might have been enough to get their DL up for the game that could be decided by their level of play.

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by Strohman on Dec 3, 2011 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Check

pound Jacobs to exploit Packers’ porous run-D (with subs at LB) and keep Rodgers off the field; keep Rodgers on the move with blitzes; use Cruz to occupy Woodson while the rest of the receivers despoil the Packers’ vulnerable secondary; rely on "good Eli" to show up for a shoot-out. Can it work? Maybe, if Coughlin hasn’t lost the team.

by 1-10-1 on Dec 4, 2011 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

well now he's not

but blount has about 5 or 6 years and less wear and tear on his body.

the Brandon Jacobs of our championship season, and ’08 was better than Blount is at this point in his career.

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by wilddre22 on Dec 2, 2011 11:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Both QBs will play good

Rodgers of course will be God-like if given time in the pocket or even a comfortable scramble out of it, preying on the dismantled secondary of the Giants, and Eli will be alright although a pick may decide it for them if Cruz or Ballard are covered like a blanket (which I hope they go with the same man coverage with a safety on top like we did against Megatron). Ballard is a good TE with a scary height advantage so we should double team him at all costs. The run game doesn’t worry me in the least, even if Bradshaw is back for this one. As long as our linebackers don’t mess up their assignments, we’re all good. Packers 34, Giants 24.

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by P-Townfan on Dec 2, 2011 10:43 AM CST reply actions  

Do we know which middle LB's yet?

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by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 2, 2011 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

We probably won't know for sure

Until later today or at the latest, Bish and Hawk could be game time decisions

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by P-Townfan on Dec 2, 2011 12:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

MM just announced that both Hawk and Bishop are out

and NY expects Bradshaw to play.

I am too drunk to taste this chicken.

by ThroughBeingCool on Dec 2, 2011 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Well that sucks...

With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg!

by RaY210 on Dec 2, 2011 1:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Next man up

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We expect to win.- Ted Thompson July 28, 2011

by White92 on Dec 2, 2011 2:04 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

You probably will have man coverage with safety help on Nicks, not Cruz.

Green Bay 34, Giants 28

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by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 2, 2011 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

the irony is that most of the world fears Cruz more than Nicks

yet Nicks is still by far our best receiver. does suck that manningham is out tho. hopefully what i heard earlier in the week about that knee ain’t true.

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by wilddre22 on Dec 3, 2011 12:07 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't think Ballard is gonna beat anyone.

From what I have seen he’s just a big stiff TE more suited for blocking than pass recieving! I don’t see any reason whatsoever to double him. Unless my opinion is completely wrong, and I don’t think it is Ballard is nothing more than a check down reciever and no reason to double him, no matter who our ILB are.

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by Strohman on Dec 2, 2011 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah you def. don't need to double him

but he’s much more than a pass blocking TE, and def. not a checkdown receiver. matter of fact, he leads all starting TE’s in YPC at 16.3 per – and that ain’t from YAC! kid’s slow as molasses. he’s no jermichael(altho there numbers are similar so far this year) but he’s more than just a blocker. matter of fact, out of the two i’d say blocking is his weak link.

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by wilddre22 on Dec 3, 2011 12:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Fudge?!

D.J. Smith will be calling the defence’s plays? Is that the absolute best decision? It’s interesting, regardless.

by GinSlinger on Dec 2, 2011 2:07 PM CST reply actions  

Why

Isn’t Woodson wearing the headset? It’s not like he is ever too far away from the line of scrimmage … Burnett is the backup to DJ Smith as well…what?

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by dieapack on Dec 2, 2011 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

"What's that, Dom? Drop back in coverage?"

“Fuck that! Kitchen sink, boys.”

That’s why not.

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"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Dec 2, 2011 10:43 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

This is probably half-true.

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by Wiedmann on Dec 2, 2011 11:22 PM CST up reply actions  

12-0

With Umenyiora out and Tuck at about 75%, the Giants will need to blitz to get at Rodgers. Finley should have a field day with this linebacker/safety group. Packers 40-24

by Phana24JeffGordon on Dec 2, 2011 2:50 PM CST reply actions  

DJ Smith = DPotW next week.

I’m calling it.

11-0. Hell yeah. HEAR THAT ZUNDAR?

by arodgb on Dec 2, 2011 5:10 PM CST reply actions  

I sincerely hope you have multiple hot chicks vying for your jock

Pick the rich one.

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by Clutch16 on Dec 2, 2011 10:44 PM CST up reply actions  

if the Packers put up 45 points on these guys last year without Finley, Cobb, or a decent running game

and when the Giants were healthier… I have a hard time believing the Packers aren’t going to light it up offensively. But of course, anything can happen, so we’ll see.

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by sheehan on Dec 2, 2011 5:13 PM CST reply actions  

that can't be right

football does not build character, it reveals character.

by sheehan on Dec 2, 2011 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe in yards per carry?

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by GMan83201 on Dec 2, 2011 8:55 PM CST up reply actions  

The Packers are 4th in yards per carry

Football Outsiders has a more complicated ranking system based on efficiency over average & weighted by strength of opponents.

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by Wiedmann on Dec 2, 2011 11:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Well this game got alot more interesting

Both Hawk and Bishop will be out for this game, and Bradshaw has a very realistic shot of playing for the Giants. Having both a first and second year player starting inside on 3-4 is a bit troubling for me. To me, how well those two play in the middle could end up determining the game. I bet Capers is going to keep Peprah near the LOS acting as another LB.

by Shoes31 on Dec 2, 2011 5:37 PM CST reply actions  

so how good are the two backups?

scout them for me, as a Giant fan, i’m in the dark about the replacements.

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by wilddre22 on Dec 3, 2011 12:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Honestly, we are pretty much in the dark, too

Neither one has really played anything this year but special teams up until last week. Francois was on the active roster for a few games last year, but had limited action. In fact, the most indelible moment I think of when I think of Francois is how his killer penalty (deserved or not) had a part in the Dolphins loss last year. Smith is a rookie, so we don’t even have a last year on the Packers to draw from. We’ll see, I guess. They looked all right last week. Francois had an interception, but there were times he looked lost in coverage. Smith was pretty solid on his tackling, and appeared to keep up on a lot of his assignments. Hopefully, they’ll be able to continue the competency they displayed last game, and it will carry through this week. Who knows, maybe Ted Thompson hit on another late round pick?

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by Wiedmann on Dec 3, 2011 2:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Backup ILB

Smith is a Sam Mills type ILB, small in stature, but big heart and excellent instincts. His college coach also coached Dexter Coackley (formerly of Dallas Cowboys) and said Smith is as good a playmaker maybe better. Not as athletic, but much more instinctive. I honestly don’t have too much worries about him. Tho I don’t know about a rookie wearing the headset.

Francois started as an OLB, but isn’t good enough to play outside in the NFL, so the Packers have moved him inside. He has the size to be the thumper type ILB that takes on the blockers and allows the Weak ILB to run to the ball and make plays. Don’t know how good he is tho. This game will be a litmus test for him. If he plays well, he probably will be around for awile as Hawks backup. If not that might be an area the Packers look to draft and develop someone.

But honestly other than that we don’t know for sure how good they are. I like Smith as a tackler when he’s free to run to the ball.

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by Strohman on Dec 3, 2011 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

I may be in the minority but...

I think the Packers (after having a couple of slow starts to games) come out and lay a beating a lead 28-7 at the half and cruise to a 38-28 victory and continue the streak and clinch the division.

Goal one: complete.

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by hawks61 on Dec 2, 2011 7:13 PM CST reply actions  

Goal one was completed two weeks ago.
Get to 10 wins.

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but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

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by NorthStarr on Dec 2, 2011 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

A formula that worked

Until last year. I think 11 is the golden number now.

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by Clutch16 on Dec 2, 2011 11:19 PM CST up reply actions  

If 11 is the golden number,

Then, 19 is the platinum number. :)

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but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

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by NorthStarr on Dec 3, 2011 6:01 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Goal one is win the divison

Goal 2 is to secure home field for the playoffs

Goal 3 is the SB

from the mouth of MM himself

by rip_city_swagger on Dec 3, 2011 1:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Depends...

Last year McCarthy was always talking about the 1st goal is to get to 10 wins, cuz that gets you in the playoffs more often than not. So the 10 wins is stated sometimes as securing a playoff spot. But McCarthy last year repeatedly talked about 10 wins, gotta get to 10 wins. My guess is this year, he took it up a notch and took that out and made the division the primary goal. But still generally speaking getting a playoff spot is the 1st goal for any team (meaning 10 wins), followed by winning the division and home field advantage, then SB and winning SB.

I think McCarthy knows his team to the point that getting 10 wins and securing a playoff berth was almost a given, so he made the division the 1st goal this year, since they didn’t win it last year.

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by Strohman on Dec 3, 2011 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm a little concerned

Seeing 2 inexperienced ILB’s starting is a little worrisome, especially if Bradshaw plays. I’m not worried about Justin Tuck. He has had a disappointing season and he’s facing Bulaga, who has had a really good season. Osi is out, which means JPP is matching up against Newhouse. That’s the key matchup when we are on offense.

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by Jabooty on Dec 2, 2011 9:59 PM CST reply actions  

how good/bad is Newhouse?

JPP has a motor that doesn’t stop, that’s prolly his strongest trait. and Tuck’s head doesn’t seem to be in it this year, don’t know what it is – the injuries, or something else that’s got him elsewhere. hopefully for us he snaps out of it Sunday.

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by wilddre22 on Dec 3, 2011 12:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Newhouse has been solid

He had trouble against Jared Allen (who doesn’t, though?), but other than that, he’s held his own. He had a pretty good game last week against a high-motor guy. He has definitely performed better than I expected out of our 4th tackle.

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by Wiedmann on Dec 3, 2011 2:54 AM CST up reply actions  

3rd OT

He’s ahead of Sherrod at this point, and was coming into the season. JPP will be a good test for where Newhouse is at in his development. Struggled w/ Allen early in the season,as expected, but this should be a good indicator of how much he’s progressed. If he has another quality game we might have our LT of the future. Be an interesting competition in training camp next year either way.

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by Strohman on Dec 3, 2011 10:09 AM CST up reply actions  

4th OT

He’s ahead of Sherrod now & he’s ahead of Clifton now. At the beginning of the year he was the 4th T, so he’s either the 2nd T or 4th T depending on how you’re counting, but not the 3rd. Thanks for “correcting” me, though.

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by Wiedmann on Dec 3, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Beginning of the year.

It was Clifton, Bulaga and Newhouse. Sherrod was being tried at LG alot more than at OT. Newhouse was well ahead of Sherrod in training camp. If Sherrod was ever ahead of Newhouse at OT he would have been the first off the bench when Bulaga went down. I don’t think Newhouse has ever been behind Sherrod at any point this year. Unless you count being a 1st round pick, before ever getting on the field as being ahead.

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by Strohman on Dec 3, 2011 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Why did they put Sherrod at LG?

Was it because they wanted their best 5 linemen on the field like they said they did? Or are you calling the coaching staff a bunch of liars?

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by Wiedmann on Dec 4, 2011 12:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Training camp is to find out who the best 5 OL are!

and then give them time to gell. Apparently you subscribe to the Sherrod was better becuz he was a 1st round draft pick… I don’t!! Who went in when Bulaga was hurt? Newhouse! End of discussion…

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by Strohman on Dec 4, 2011 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes, and they thought Sherrod was one of the 5 best

putting him above of Newhouse at the beginning of camp, which is when I was talking about. The coaches had him above Newhouse, too. Bringing up week three which has nothing to do with training camp is typical Strohman, shifting the discussion to something else entirely.

Listen, I know that Newhouse is ahead of Sherrod now, that’s why I said he’s the #2 T now, and has exceeded expectations. I guess for you to know that, you’d actually have to read what I wrote, rather than just skimming it.

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by Wiedmann on Dec 4, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah,

EARLY in training camp… Until you know like a week in when it became abundanly clear that Newhouse was well ahead of Sherrod. What about that don’t you get? Sherrod proved w/in the firsts few days of training camp that he wasn’t one of the 5 best, and Newhouse proved w/in the first couple days of camp that he was the best backup OL on the team. Training camp is when it means anything, not before, and it was obvious well before the 1st preseason game that he wasn’t! All speculation till they put the pads on and they show what they got. By the 2nd week of training camp Newhouse was obviously far ahead of Newhouse. But you go ahead and keep believing that they started Newhouse ahead of Sherrod even tho Sherrod was better.

Like I said, coming into the season or early in the year, as in when the season started… Why are you even arguing this? Or do you just like arguing?

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by Strohman on Dec 4, 2011 12:43 PM CST up reply actions  

You are one of the worst people ever

ignorance, stupidity, argumentative, etc.

I was talking about training camp to begin with. Then you stuck your nose in & tried to correct me. I said he was the 4th T in camp, and you said, “Beginning of the year. It was Clifton, Bulaga and Newhouse”. Then I pointed out multiple instances where your words in camp differed from from those words. Of course, then, you backtracked, and tried to make it appear you weren’t wrong, an idiot, and all the other horrible things you represent.

Seriously, fuck you. Stop creating an argument nearly every time you post.

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by Wiedmann on Dec 4, 2011 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Why?

Cuz I said to begin the season and you disagreed w/ it? Freakin Idiot!! I said from the beginning that to start the season, you know, the regular season, that Newhouse was the #3 OT. Was he when Training camp started? I dont know, maybe Sherrod was, but that has absolutely nothing to do w/ the Season! At least the only one that counts! Yet YOU continue to argue otherwise… Go figure… I guess I can only conclude that you are the one arguing for the sake of arguing! LMAO

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by Strohman on Dec 4, 2011 11:58 PM CST up reply actions  

That would explain why I'm always getting into arguments
I guess I can only conclude that you are the one arguing for the sake of arguing! LMAO

and you never get into arguments with other people.

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by Wiedmann on Dec 5, 2011 1:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Further, I was talking about the beginning of the pre-season with someone else

and you inserted yourself into the conversation to argue against something I didn’t even say.

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by Wiedmann on Dec 5, 2011 1:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Not too mention..

That they had tried Newhouse at LG the previous year and he played as badly as Sherrod did. Both are natural OT, not OG. So there was no point in revisiting Newhouse at LG.

You've been Stroh'd™!!!

by Strohman on Dec 4, 2011 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Bradshaw helps them but I don't see the Giants winning

if their defense doesn’t get the most pressure on the QB they’ve had all year, they’re toast. Brees had all day to throw last week, and he destroyed them. Give those opportunities to Rodgers and it will be quick work.

Their D coordinator said he was furious and vowed that they’ll get pressure on Rodgers. Funny thing is, I’m fine with that, as Rodgers is ridiculous against the blitz (like 72%), and sending blitzers will open up more opportunities. The Giants have historically been able to get a good pass rush with just their front 4, but with Osi out and Tuck dinged, I think they will struggle to do that in this game

by rip_city_swagger on Dec 3, 2011 1:21 AM CST reply actions  

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