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On Aaron Rodgers, The Formula, Desmond Bishop, and Mike Neal

Aaron Rodgers of Green Bay Packers is AP's top male athlete of 2011 - ESPN. He's so awesome.

Questioning the 'Packers formula' issue - NFC North Blog - ESPN. Aaron Rodgers did a radio interview and one question was about how the Chiefs found the formula to beat the Packers. Rodgers destroyed that argument by explaining that the Chiefs did the same things that every other team had done this season, except last week it worked.

Packers Wednesday Injury Report: No Bryan Bulaga on Sunday vs. Bears | AllGreenBayPackers.Com. There's no surprise about the players that are out, but it's great to read that Desmond Bishop is back at practice. It's hard to see D.J. Smith on the bench, but the defense is better with Bishop.

Packersnews.com | Green Bay Packers | Insiders Blog " Neal explains his struggles. His surgically repaired knee is still bothering him. Maybe he is an injury prone bust. But he deserves another season to prove that he's not. Sometimes that patience can be rewarded. And sometimes a player like Justin Harrell is given four seasons to prove he's not worth it.

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Neal..

I’m going with injury prone bust.

Wilson and Wynn have shown more when they are in there (which isn’t a whole lot). If Neal is hurting, just let him sit it out. He’s not helping a whole lot by playing anyway.

I love wins. Wins are good for the soul.- Barry Alvarez Sep 25, 2005

We expect to win.- Ted Thompson July 28, 2011

by White92 on Dec 22, 2011 9:05 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

wow..

Neal- I don’t care about tackles or sacks..?!?!

What exactly does he care about?

I love wins. Wins are good for the soul.- Barry Alvarez Sep 25, 2005

We expect to win.- Ted Thompson July 28, 2011

by White92 on Dec 22, 2011 9:09 AM CST up reply actions  

To be fair to Neal

The role of the DL in a 3-4 is not necessarily to get to the QB, but rather to occupy all the blockers to free up the true rushers. Not that he’s been doing great at that, either.

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by GinSlinger on Dec 22, 2011 9:19 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

read the next sentence...

“If I’m here to relieve pressure from the other guys and let them try to get a break and try to go out there and do what I can, that’s about all I can do this year."

The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010

by TrevorR on Dec 22, 2011 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I would guess the coaching staff expects a little more..

if not sacks, I think he is there to at least create some pressure on the QB from the inside ..If the staff agrees that he’s just there to “relieve pressure”, why bother?

I love wins. Wins are good for the soul.- Barry Alvarez Sep 25, 2005

We expect to win.- Ted Thompson July 28, 2011

by White92 on Dec 22, 2011 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I would guess...

that if the Packer coaches didn’t feel like he was contributing in a positive manner, they wouldn’t play him at all. Theres a thing called context. Clearly Neal would like to be more productive, but if he’s out there why should he care about HIS stats? He shouldn’t… What he SHOULD care about is the team! Obviously, Neal is saying he’s forgoing his stats for the Team.

Our Biggest Challenge is how we deal w/ Success!

by Strohman on Dec 22, 2011 11:09 PM CST up reply actions   3 recs

^This^

"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

"We're nobody's underdog!"

"We don't play scared!"

by NorthStarr on Dec 23, 2011 2:20 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

of course it's a team game..

but at some point production matters and I would guess that his why Neal’s snaps have been fewer each game.

If is his job is to “relieve pressure” from other guys fine. I’m just saying those weren’t the expectations for him when he returned from injury and certainly not at the start of camp. I get that the expectations have been changed.

I love wins. Wins are good for the soul.- Barry Alvarez Sep 25, 2005

We expect to win.- Ted Thompson July 28, 2011

by White92 on Dec 23, 2011 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

There are positions in the 3-4 that just aren’t about the stats. The Dline is more about occupying blockers and allowing the LBs to make plays so they just aren’t going to be big stat guys.

The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010

by TrevorR on Dec 23, 2011 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

even for a 3-4 dlineman they are bad..

no?

I love wins. Wins are good for the soul.- Barry Alvarez Sep 25, 2005

We expect to win.- Ted Thompson July 28, 2011

by White92 on Dec 23, 2011 4:38 PM CST up reply actions  

He hasn't had many snaps yet

Still, I’m a little concerned about his progress.

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Build Lasers And Stuff For More Ownage, Dude!

by Wiedmann on Dec 23, 2011 9:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I am a little concerned too.

The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010

by TrevorR on Dec 24, 2011 7:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.

The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010

by TrevorR on Dec 23, 2011 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

I don’t get why people are so hard on NFL athletes. There have been a few studies done and supposedly NFL hits can be at the magnitude of 10g, or that of a moving car hitting wall (idk how fast the car is..). I’d imagine it would be hard to play with a knee injury at any position, but on the d-like you start with your knees bend and accelerate upwards it must be extremely difficult. I think his mindset is realistic in terms of his physical ability to get to the quarterback or be explosive.
I think the packers should put him on IR, let him heal up to 100% and come back next year and show us what he can do.
Best of luck Mike Neal!

by chillier ale on Dec 22, 2011 9:18 AM CST reply actions   2 recs

OL

Is there any thought to seeing if Mark Tauscher is interested in coming out of retirement?

by Earlyshadows on Dec 22, 2011 10:22 AM CST reply actions  

if that happens...

we’ll go from having an “OL” to an “LOL”!

Looking forward to the Packers three-peating and visiting President Ron Paul at the White House in 2013

by PackFaninFL on Dec 22, 2011 11:36 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

he'd blow rodgers out of the water....

What do you have against the ring-tailed lemur?

by threadkiller on Dec 22, 2011 6:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Cade McLeaf

or Art Schlichter, if he’s not in jail.

by glblank on Dec 22, 2011 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Dear Mike Neal

On Sunday,the day when all look for a present of some kind,PLEASE MAKE A TACKLE,ASSIST,help CM3 get sacks (since you don’t care about them) and give us fans a gift this week.For if you don’t, the chant of “Release the Kracken” will have taken on a whole new hope for many.

by Tarynfor12 on Dec 22, 2011 10:34 AM CST reply actions  

Wait - why is it hard to see DJ Smith benched in favor of Bishop?

Doesn’t Bishop still lead the team in tackles, even after 4 weeks on the bench? If you wanted to swap Smith for Hawk – sure, but the return of Bishop is to be celebrated, not mourned.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Dec 22, 2011 5:26 PM CST reply actions  

I don't think that's what he was saying

He likes D.J. Smith, but Bishop’s better. And I don’t think Smith is better than Hawk, either.

"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks

by jobe on Dec 22, 2011 6:39 PM CST up reply actions  

From ESPN INsider

According to Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, we just might. “Saw #Packers WR Greg Jennings in locker room,” the scribe tweeted Thursday afternoon. “He literally ran away from me to avoid an interview. He won’t be out much longer I don’t think.”

by Archibaldcrane on Dec 22, 2011 6:45 PM CST reply actions  

Good to hear.

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Build Lasers And Stuff For More Ownage, Dude!

by Wiedmann on Dec 23, 2011 12:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Who wouldn't run away from Silverstein

cut Grant. Starks can carry tha load!

13-1
Thanks, Chiefs, thanks a lot.
MattFlynn4StartingQB

by arodgb on Dec 23, 2011 10:48 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Way to go guys!
And you go through a point where you’re reading your own clippings. You’re 6-10 your first season, and you’re reading some of these (Internet) comment boards, in the back of your mind, that negative voice is telling you, ‘You know, you’re not going to live up to any expectations you put on yourself, and you’re not as good as you think you are.’

Thanks for discouraging Rodgers three years ago! You almost made him quit!

13-1
Thanks, Chiefs, thanks a lot.
MattFlynn4StartingQB

by arodgb on Dec 23, 2011 10:47 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

I'd like to think that

what swayed him not to was, along with reading all those negative things, he was also reading the comments from people like Strohman and me, who argued fiercely against the Ted Thompson/Aaron Rodgers hating, Bertt Favre loving crowd, and were encouraging to Rodgers. :)

"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

"We're nobody's underdog!"

"We don't play scared!"

by NorthStarr on Dec 23, 2011 10:59 PM CST up reply actions  

BUT NORTHSTARR HE WAS THE FIRST TO HAVE HIS JERSEY

13-1
Thanks, Chiefs, thanks a lot.
MattFlynn4StartingQB

by arodgb on Dec 23, 2011 11:28 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Unnecessary.

"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

"We're nobody's underdog!"

"We don't play scared!"

by NorthStarr on Dec 24, 2011 3:21 AM CST up reply actions  

I was...

What of it?! Just shows that I was behind my QB from the start!!

Our Biggest Challenge is how we deal w/ Success!

by Strohman on Dec 24, 2011 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

the defense in 2008 couldn't stop a nosebleed

anyone who actually watched the games would have seen how that was the problem, not Rodgers

football does not build character, it reveals character.

by sheehan on Dec 25, 2011 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Not the Favre Apologists

/R4F’d

13-1
Thanks, Chiefs, thanks a lot.
MattFlynn4StartingQB

by arodgb on Dec 25, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

That guy was much more than an Apologist.

He was a Farve Bung Tonguer.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

"We're nobody's underdog!"

"We don't play scared!"

by NorthStarr on Dec 26, 2011 12:31 AM CST up reply actions  

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