On Jordy Nelson, The Lions, The Run Defense, and The Offensive Line
by Brandon on Dec 27, 2011 7:01 AM CST
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Free Head Exam: Green Bay Packers - NFC North Blog - ESPN. Kevin Seifert crunches the numbers on the incredibly efficient season by Jordy Nelson. He's probably doing more with fewer targets than any other wide receiver in the NFL.
Schwartz says Lions will play to win - JSOnline. Unlike the Green Bay Packers, the Lions are still playing for playoff seeding. The Falcons lost on Monday night, but if they beat the Buccaneers (who mailed in last week's game against the Panthers), then the Lions would have to beat the Packers to keep the No. 5 seed. The No. 6 seed would face the Saints or 49ers (probably the Saints) while the No. 5 seed would face the Giants or Cowboys. The Lions should want that NFC East match-up over either of those other teams. They'd still have to play at Lambeau, but they'll need to take it one game at a time. Play for the easier first round game, and then worry about the next game.
Green Bay Packers news | Notebook: Coaches expect better effort from run defense | Green Bay Press Gazette. Mike McCarthy thought it was the worst performance by the run defense in the past six seasons. I don't know, there were some bad times during the 2008 season.
Packersnews.com | Green Bay Packers | Insiders Blog " So’oto, Lattimore receive extra snaps with Walden struggling. I'd love for either Vic So'oto or Jamari Lattimore to emerge as an outside linebacker worth starting, but neither did much on defense. So'oto and Lattimore were active against the Bears, while Frank Zombo was a healthy scratch. The coaches are understandably down on him after an injury plagued season. Reluctantly, Erik Walden remains their best starting option.
McCarthy: Packers Playing to Win Game on Sunday; Chad Clifton Expected to Play | AllGreenBayPackers.Com. Both LT Chad Clifton and RT Bryan Bulaga could return against the Lions, and get some valuable reps before the playoffs. Marshall Newhouse was good against Peppers, but that's no guarantee he'll be good during the playoffs. They'd be better off with Clifton.
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To what does one attribute the run defense woes?
It’s been a while since it’s been great, but this year it’s pretty bad and I’ve been wondering if it’s a scheme or personnel issue. A personnel issue is less worrisome, just because the playoffs will tend to bring out someone’s best game and they’ve got that extra week to work on things (the bye, not the Lions game – they don’t have a good enough running attack to make a solid judgement on).
But if it’s scheme based, what kind of adjustments do you think Capers will make, if any, these next few weeks?
"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Vince Lombardi
Too much nickel
Due to not having enough True 34 DE. They have Raji, Pickett and Green who are all mostly NT, not DE. If they had more of the conventional 34 DE and another true 34 OLB, I think Capers could play alot more base D and be very successful at it. Neal would be a 34R DE, but has been out all year and they still need another DE that can be a really effective run player and helpful in pass rush too. Since we don’t have the pieces needed to play base we end up playing more nickel than I think we should.
Our Biggest Challenge is how we deal w/ Success!
From what I saw...
They were trying So’oto out as a DE. He didn’t do to bad and might have enough speed and power to supplement Neal. I’m not sure if the results will be any better than what we have had, but it certainly doesn’t hurt to have Maybe Neal on the same side as Matthews and So’oto on the right.
by stratefaced on Dec 27, 2011 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
Neal
I think the Packers put far too much reliance on Neal and when he went down, they did not have a good answer. Then again, Neal may have been less than expected. Gotta wondwer what position will be a higher priority in the draft, OLB or DE.
I think this is exactly right. Early in the year Pickett was at NT, and I think the run defense was a little better because of it. Not too say Raji isn’t a good NT because he’s better than Pickett there but I don’t think Pickett is anything special as a DE. He can hold his gap but he’s not going to do a whole lot more than that, which is fine.
I think without these last two games we really struggled against the run. Green is solid but you can tell he gets gassed as the game goes on, and Wynn and Wilson seem more like pass rush guys than run stop guys.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Dec 27, 2011 9:57 PM CST up reply actions
We're really missing Pickett right now, that's at least a part of it.
I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!
NOT COACHING
Dom Capers should be given the benefit of any doubt based on his record. We haven’t had anywhere near the performance from the DL that we had last year. Jenkins was a huge boo boo. What really concerns me is underperformances by a host of players who player better last year. Walden and Hawk have had terrible years. We have too many “just guys”. Further, last year it was defensive hero of the week. This year, no one from the masses really stepped up. Why? I haven’t a clue.
Gap management and poor linebacker play. Scheme is fine, execution is lacking.
Bishop was okay. Matthews was Matthews, Hawk and Walden stunk. Hawk will make a play here and there but often gets sucked into the wash and can’t flow to the ball when the back bounces out. It happens to Bishop too. Walden takes piss poor angles and teams don’t run to Matthews side.Missing Pickett is a big deal. He holds his end and flows well for a big man. The tackling has been shitty all year. Blount’s big run exemplifies the phenomena I call Packling, Packer tackling.
you mean where they all try to grab and hit the ball instead of the ballcarrier?
football does not build character, it reveals character.
Hey Packers fans
Last time we met the Packers watched the Detroit Lions defeat the Detroit Lions at Ford Field. This game will feature 2nd and 3rd stringers against Detroit’s starters because Green Bay has nothing to play for. I hope they do rest their starters because if we win, we get the #5 seed and play Dallas/New York as opposed to New Orleans/San Fransisco.
Green Bay is the best team in the NFL with arguably the best quarterback and receiving corps in the game. Detroit is a young team on the rise with the same style of play that Green Bay boasts.
Green Bay: West Coast ran pass-heavy offense, weak running game
Detroit: Air Coryell/West Coast mix pass-heavy offense, weak running game
Green Bay: 3-4 base defense, good passing defense and lead the league in turnovers
Detroit: 4-3 base defense, good passing defense and lead the league in points off turnovers
Green Bay: Best quarterback in the NFL
Detroit: Best quarterback in Lions history (Superbowl-era)
I would love to see the Packers-Lions in the NFC Championship this year. The Packers were the wildcard last year and beat the division champion Bears to get to the Superbowl.
Could it be possible for Detroit to follow in Green Bay’s footsteps? I guess we’ll just have to wait and see.
From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!
by DLions4Eva on Dec 27, 2011 10:48 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Not likely to have this as the NFC Championship.
I can see the Lions getting the 5 seed and winning the Wild Card, but then Atlanta would have to beat the 3 seed on the road. Maybe if the 49ers somehow manage to lose to the Rams, but I don’t see Atlanta winning at NO. Most likely it would be the 2nd round if we meet.
December, 7 1941 may be a day that lives in infamy, but December 6, 2011 is a day that will live in AWESOMENESS!!! The day I became part owner of the Green Bay Packers!
In Cheese We Trust
Office we meet in the playoffs it would be in the divisional round unless Atlanta is the sixth seed and wins in the first round too
Also I appreciate the compliment but our pass defense is not good. It’s a turnover machine and yards are a stupid stat to go by, but it’s probably a middle of the road defense with a lot of skilled players playing in a high risk/high reward fashion
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Dec 27, 2011 11:00 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Oh yeah, thats right
I assumed all season we’d be the 6th seed and playing Green Bay in the NFCCG would’ve been possible, but obviously not as a #5 seed.
Would love to have a home playoff game vs Atlanta though.
From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!
by DLions4Eva on Dec 27, 2011 12:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
wouldn't have been possible as the sixth seed
still theoretically is possible as the five seed, which is still a big if
football does not build character, it reveals character.
Correct.
The Packers will play the lowest surviving seed in the Divisional Round.
That would be the #6 seed if they win their Wild Card Round game.
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"We're nobody's underdog!"
"We don't play scared!"
After further review,
the Munsters of the Midway still suck!
Interesting fact:
Detroit is the 4th oldest team in the league, Packers are the second youngest.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
by mittsabishy on Dec 27, 2011 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Jason Hanson skews that stat.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
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Jason Hanson.
He had to kick footballs uphill, both ways to and from school, barefoot in a driving blizzard with the wind against him. Kickers these days don’t know what he went through to make their lives easier.
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by Steven Schweickert on Dec 27, 2011 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He's the poster boy for
Depends new line of athletic adult diapers.
His first field goal in the NFL…Jesus was the holder.
He’s the last active player who started their career with the Portsmouth Spartans.
Back when he started footballs were made of slate and F. Flinstone was the league’s leading rusher.
The joke is he’s old.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
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"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
I didn't know Tebow was a holder
That dude is even more amazing than I knew
by Danwood on Dec 27, 2011 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Timothy H. Tebow!
I meant the real Tebow…er…Jesus.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
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"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
I said before the year started...
The Lions this year are similar to the 2009 Packers. In fact, you both finished with the same record, 11-5. The reason I say that is because, just as we learned in our playoff game against Arizona that year, you need to get that playoff experience under your belt before you take the next step.
I know you won’t pay attention to me. I was the same guy who told you prior to the Thanksgiving match-up, that no matter how much “you guys really wanted it” and how much you felt “it was your time”, it’s the talent on the field that determines who wins (most of the time). And then you threw a tantrum.
Don’t kid yourself with such psychobabble and with the “we are going to do what you did last year”. Our achievement was singular and not to be duplicated easily. Especially by an inexperienced, undisciplined team.
Looking forward to the Packers three-peating and visiting President Ron Paul at the White House in 2013
by PackFaninFL on Dec 27, 2011 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
I know you almighty Packer fans are way up there on your Wisconsin throne made of cheese but
Nobody in the league thinks Detroit isn’t good enough to beat Green Bay or make it to the Superbowl. We dominated a division in the AFC West by outscoring them 159-50 in those 4 games and you guys barely beat the Chargers and even lost to the Chiefs. I’m not downplaying Green Bay, but its ridiculous how a lot of you Packer fans act towards other team’s fans. Come off of your high horse, why don’t ya?
Detroit is a good team with a top-5 offense and a top-10 defense. We can beat anybody and all of those 13+ comebacks we had this year are proof that this team can turn it on whenever they want to. Keep thinking Green Bay won’t lose, but don’t be surprised if we do play in the playoffs we either win or come damn close.
A lot of you Packer fans are so arrogant about your team that it makes me laugh. There’s been a lot of teams in the history of the NFL who have dominated the regular season just to lose in the playoffs or regular season. Don’t think the Packers are unbeatable because all it takes is one bad injury to Rodgers to end your season. It happened to us last year with Stafford and we finished 6-10.
From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!
by DLions4Eva on Dec 27, 2011 1:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Is this really happening again?
twitter.com/AlfredAugust
by Tedaldtada29 on Dec 27, 2011 2:05 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions 5 recs
Hmm
1) Nobody thinks the Lions are making the Superbowl. Green Bay and New Orleans are better teams and already waxed Detroit this year. San Francisco is stronger as well and beat you guys.
2) You beat up the AFC West, the division that will have an 8-8 or 9-7 champion. You SO win dog.
3) No, we will not come off our high horse, we are the freaking defending champs and 14-1.
4) Again, if there was a team that was allowed to be arrogant, it is the Packers. Defending champs, 14-1 this season, won 20 of its last 21 games. Sheesh. I’m tired of the “Packers are cocky, arrogant” etc bullshit. It is a poor veil for your jealousy and it makes you look bad. Your team has a dbag coach, no discipline and is finally good because you got a top 10 pick for like 8 years in a row.
Oh, and please don’t ever compare Matthew Stafford to Aaron Rodgers. Apart from Rodgers dominance in every category, the durability one might be the most shocking. Rodgers has missed ONE start in four seasons. One. Stafford has missed, what, two seasons worth already in his short career.
/End rant.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Dec 27, 2011 2:07 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
As a Bears fan, I'm contractually obligated to hate the Packers.
That being said, I don’t understand how this is even a discussion. The Packers have earned the right, 14-1 is the best in the NFL, and they’re the champs until the end of a season says they aren’t.
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by Steven Schweickert on Dec 27, 2011 2:23 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Its not a discussion.
Here’s a direct quote from Dlions4Eva:
Green Bay is the best team in the NFL with arguably the best quarterback and receiving corps in the game. Detroit is a young team on the rise with the same style of play that Green Bay boasts.
He was giving the Packers plenty of props. Then came a reply with a gem like:
And then you threw a tantrum
I’m not sure why anyone would be surprised the discussion took a turn for the worse at that point. Crucify DLions if you like, but he was giving the Packers mad props.
By the way,
if there was a team that was allowed to be arrogant, it is the Packers – Andrew Clark
Nobody should be allowed to be arrogant. Ever.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
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comon I saw DLions 4Eva over at WCG before the 2nd game with them
Talk about cocky and arogant, telling Bears fans how shitty they were and how great the Lions were on there site. It’s one thing to talk smack on your own site but to go to someone else’s it is called trolling. The result was he as banned. There were quite a few others that week who also were banned and rightly so.
The result was he as banned. There were quite a few others that week who also were banned and rightly so
Sounds like problem solved. That was then (and since I’m not even sure I was a player in that “battle”) so,I was obviously not referring to any of those instances.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
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"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
Yeah, you were fine.
Although it wasn’t just DL4E, but I’m done talking about it – leaving WCG at WCG.
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by Steven Schweickert on Dec 27, 2011 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
Make no mistake
I’m a grade A Munson. I just don’t recall being one in that instance. Caught me on an off-day.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
I'm familiar with how DL4E works, Leo, he's on WCG plenty enough.
A lot of props, several times backhanded. I wasn’t on APC during the T-Giving matchup, so I can only surmise what went down here, but if it’s anything like what happened week 5 on WCG, I’ve got a good picture.
The Packers have shown to be the best team in the NFL, currently, they’re more entitled to their arrogance. Why shouldn’t they? Just because the Packers “could” lose? I’d be more worried if the Packers themselves were arrogant, the fans can be.
I know you almighty Packer fans are way up there on your Wisconsin throne made of cheese but nobody in the league thinks Detroit isn’t good enough to beat Green Bay or make it to the Superbowl.
A lot of you Packer fans are so arrogant about your team that it makes me laugh. There’s been a lot of teams in the history of the NFL who have dominated the regular season just to lose in the playoffs or regular season.
-DL4E
Also interesting you take those five words out of the paragraph.
I know you won’t pay attention to me. I was the same guy who told you prior to the Thanksgiving match-up, that no matter how much "you guys really wanted it" and how much you felt "it was your time", it’s the talent on the field that determines who wins (most of the time). And then you threw a tantrum.
I get the “any given Sunday” mantra, but the undeserved hubris I’ve seen out of Lions fans this year has been, well, humorous, to be nice.
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by Steven Schweickert on Dec 27, 2011 2:50 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I don't think its that interesting that I chose those words to pick out
as they were probably the most inflammatory of the bunch. Makes sense I’d use them for the example.
but the undeserved hubris I’ve seen out of Lions fans this year has been, well, humorous, to be nice
That may be sir, but you didn’t see that out of me and I didn’t see it out of DLions here, in the first post. He called the Packers the best team in the NFL, that seems to be a pretty decent thing to post on a Packers blog. Not sure he deserved to get lashed like that in a response, so I commented on it.
currently, they’re more entitled to their arrogance. Why shouldn’t they?
To answer your question: because arrogance is not a good thing. Nobody should be entitled to arrogance. That’s all I’m saying. The Packers are the defending Super Bowl champs and have the best record in the league at the end of this season. Its cool to be confident. Believe you can win it again, hell yeah. But arrogance? No, I’m sorry, nobody should be entitled to be arrogant. Not under any circumstances. That will never be a pill I can take.
Another pill I can’t take is blaming entire fan bases for the actions of individuals. Sure, I’m fighting a losing battle. Its going to happen, especially on the internet. I just think it starts more trouble than it solves.
I know there have been problems with posters on WCG in the past. If he got banned there, I’m sure you guys had reasons. Those are incidents that I’m in no way referring to here.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
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"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
Perhaps it is the way the initial comment is read by someone not wearing Honolulu-Blue lenses.
Maybe “entitled” is not the best word, but they do have reason to be confident.
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by Steven Schweickert on Dec 27, 2011 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
but they do have reason to be confident.
They really do, I’ll never argue that point. Maybe arrogance is a bad choice of words on someone’s part, but I do feel the need to debate it when I see people trying to defend arrogance as a general practice.
Perception is a key to consider. Just because something is taken the wrong way, doesn’t mean it was intended so. Instead of figuring out which, most times I’ve seen it just devolves into nastiness and bashing entire fanbases.
They do have reason to be confident, I’ve not seen too many people argue otherwise.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
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"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
You've spoken truthiness.
I like you, kid.
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by Steven Schweickert on Dec 27, 2011 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
Also, I do apologize for this as well.
Another pill I can’t take is blaming entire fan bases for the actions of individuals. Sure, I’m fighting a losing battle. Its going to happen, especially on the internet. I just think it starts more trouble than it solves.
I should say “Some Lions fans I have interacted with.”
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by Steven Schweickert on Dec 27, 2011 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
Its cool.
Its easier to say Lions Fan than it is to remember screen names. Like someone wise has posted, there are D-Bags in every fan base. I sure know some Lions fans like that, I’m sure you know some Bears fans like that.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
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"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
No kidding.
Hey, common ground!
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by Steven Schweickert on Dec 27, 2011 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
To clarify:
from the context, it may look like I’m calling Packer fans arrogant. That was unintended.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
Nobody should be allowed to be arrogant?
Hmm, ok then. Lets start with a Lions fan proclaiming his team’s glory when they are having their first winning season since Seinfield ended.
Packer arrogance makes a hell of a lot more sense than Lion arrogance.
Look, I get it. You guys sucked for so long and were so terrible that this season is amazing. And good for you, cool you can root for a team that wins more games than it loses.
But please cut down the trash talking, shots at rivals who own you recently and historically and attitude as if you have won something. Because you haven’t. In other words, I’m asking you Lions fans to be better people than your head coach and several of your players.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Dec 27, 2011 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
Packer arrogance makes a hell of a lot more sense than Lion arrogance.
It doesn’t matter to me if it makes sense, its still not right or cool.
But please cut down the trash talking, shots at rivals who own you recently and historically and attitude as if you have won something
Show me where I did so and I’ll apologize.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
I'm sorry my view on arrogance upsets you
And my second point is more directed at DLions4EVA and Lions fans in general, not you specifically. All of a sudden there are Lions fans out of the woodwork, talking smack, etc. Like I said I get it, you can finally call yourself a Lions fan without getting ridiculed, you’ve won some games, etc. It just annoys me, it would be like if Tampa Bay fans popped onto a Saints blog after last season and their 10-6 record and spouted off crap like “you arrogant fans make me laugh.” They would reply “you are Tampa Bay. This is your first winning season in a long time. We just won the SuperBowl.”
Hence my reaction. You are Detroit. You are having your first winning season in years. We just won the superbowl. Please don’t come on here preaching arrogance and etc. to us.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Dec 27, 2011 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
I'm sorry if my view on arrogance upsets you.
I think arrogance is stupid and wrong. I didn’t call anyone arrogant. Some were arguing that if anyone should be entitled to be arrogant, its Packers fans. I disagreed, simple as that.
I’m not upset bud. I could be wrong, but it seems to me that you’re just upset because a Lions fan disagrees with you. That’s fine, you may think I’m hating on the Packers or trying to steal your thunder, I really don’t know. I do know that I haven’t said anything bad about the Packers or their fans in this thread, that’s all I can control. I understand that, so even though you make some less than nice comments about my team and fandom, I won’t retaliate.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
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"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
I'm sorry for my rough views on the Lions
I made comments that your team has no discipline, plays like punks, your coach is a jerk, etc. I’m sorry, tape of all of Suh’s personal fouls, the stomp, your coach trying to fight another team’s coach (when the hell is the last time that happened) and dribble from Lions fans calling us arrogant, on a thrown of cheese (which doesn’t insult me, just makes me hungry) substantiates my claims.
I apologize you got the brunt end of my viewpoint (after the mad props comment) I just can’t respect the Lions this year. Not with their dirty play, with Schwartz, Suh, etc. And I wish their fans would enjoy the ride and stop proclaiming the team is one of the big dogs of the NFL now.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Dec 27, 2011 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
And like I said, I'm not saying YOU represent my bias
Just speaking in generalities.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Dec 27, 2011 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
Geez... I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry...
Hug it out already.
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by Steven Schweickert on Dec 27, 2011 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Good lord.
How high a falsetto is that guy singing in these days? Those shorts look awfully high.
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by Steven Schweickert on Dec 27, 2011 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
Oh yeah
And just because he said “I’m not downplaying Green Bay” doesn’t mean the following comments:
We dominated a division in the AFC West by outscoring them 159-50 in those 4 games and you guys barely beat the Chargers and even lost to the Chiefs.
Keep thinking Green Bay won’t lose, but don’t be surprised if we do play in the playoffs we either win or come damn close.
I know you almighty Packer fans are way up there on your Wisconsin throne made of cheese but
A lot of you Packer fans are so arrogant about your team that it makes me laugh
Are “mad props.” This is giving another team mad props to you? Come on man.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Dec 27, 2011 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It was retaliation
which does not excuse it. That’s cool though if you want to ignore the props he was giving before the exchange.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
I replied to his one comment, it was the only one I read
I scrolled around, saw rediculousness, and reacted. I didn’t read everyone’s comment line for line.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Dec 27, 2011 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
That definitely puts it in perspective.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
what's wrong with a throne made of cheese?
isn’t that the dream? Who doesn’t love cheese?
football does not build character, it reveals character.
It would not be the first time I was tempted to eat a chair.
Just the first time it would make any kind of sense.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
by Leonuro on Dec 27, 2011 2:39 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Shoe laces,shoe laces,shoe laces
make sure there tied before you tap the heels of your red slippers and wish you were home.
by Tarynfor12 on Dec 27, 2011 2:13 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
How many when you remove the Patriots?
There’s been a lot of teams in the history of the NFL who have dominated the regular season just to lose in the playoffs or regular season.
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Lose in the regular season, no one cares.
Lose in the playoffs, geez, eleven of twelve will.
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by Steven Schweickert on Dec 27, 2011 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
Colts
football does not build character, it reveals character.
Falcons went 14-2 last year
The Bears had some 13-3 seasons in the past that ended with loses in the second round.
Vikings went 15-1 one season, set several NFL records, only to lose to the Falcons and miss out on the super bowl
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Dec 27, 2011 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
I believe that was the game
When Gary Anderson (who hadn’t missed a kick all year) shanked a field goal to win it.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Dec 27, 2011 6:57 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, it was.
I forgot about that choke job because it wasn’t so much a choke job by the Vikings as much as it was business as usual for the Vikings.
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the Falcons ran into a buzzsaw
can’t fault them for that
football does not build character, it reveals character.
Colts?
I guess the ‘05 Colts could count, but they did lose to the SB champs that year, and were only one game ahead of the next closest team; I wouldn’t exactly call that dominating. The ‘99 Colts, the team that didn’t even have the league’s best record & lost to a team with the same record? What Colts team are you talking about?
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2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2010
especially 2005 and 2007
football does not build character, it reveals character.
2007?
They certainly weren’t the dominant team that year.
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they were the next most dominant team after NE
which I already said.
football does not build character, it reveals character.
So, you admit it doesn't meet the criteria we were discussing?
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if the criteria is 'most dominant team in the regular season completely failing in the playoffs'
then the Patriots, the team you applied it to, have only been that team once, last year. same as the Colts in 2005.
In 2007 the Pats still went to the Super Bowl before losing. If you wanted to include them, you could also include the Colts from 2009, who were undefeated until they sat everybody, were the best team in the regular season, went to the Super Bowl, and lost.
So the Colts have been just as much of a playoffs failure as the Pats have when they were the dominant team. But in general, they’ve been more of a failure, because they’ve repeatedly won their division and/or had 12 win seasons, before losing in their first playoff game. They did it in 2005, 2007, 2008, and 2010.
The Patriots, on the other hand, have only lost their first playoff game twice in this last decade, and the first time they were dominated against a legitimately better team (the Ravens), rather than repeatedly choking like the Colts did against weaker teams.
So using either criteria, the Colts have been just as much, and probably more of a dominant regular season team who fails miserably in the playoffs than the Patriots have. Also, the Pats won three Super Bowls under their current regime, while the Colts only mustered one, despite winning 12+ games in the regular season for eight straight years, something NE never did.
end rant.
football does not build character, it reveals character.
Also
The three superbowls the Pats won came after they had eliminated the Colts I believe.
I’d agree the Colts are the bigger chokers. Pats have 4 superbowls and 3 wins. Colts have 2 and one win.
Really, the Colts were the Atlanta Braves. Won the division and dominated the regular season for a decade… have one title to show for it.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Dec 28, 2011 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
How many times did the Colts win 14 games in the regular season & lose their first playoff game?
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once, same as the Pats
they also did it once at 13-3
football does not build character, it reveals character.
Oh, yeah, I forgot they went 14-2 in 2005
Either way, fuck both those teams.
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on this, we can always agree
fuck em in the ear.
football does not build character, it reveals character.
What is crazy to me
Is that Eli could potentially end up with more rings than Peyton since they are already tied. Then you’d have people coming out with rediculous “Peyton was good, but Eli won more superbowls” argument.
I know sometimes too much stock is given to superbowl titles, but its interesting to think about. What if Favre and Manning both had gone 0-2 in the big game rather than 1-2? What if Marino won one? What if Elway has a career ending injury before his final two seasons? What is Aikman isn’t drafted by a team that surrounds him with an incredible offensive line, running game and defense?
I feel like we would all look at those guys differently. One game can change a lot.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Dec 29, 2011 8:29 AM CST up reply actions
personally I think Elway, Favre, Marino, and Jim Kelly were all better than Aikman
Aikman was grossly overrated because he played for the Cowboys, on ridiculously stacked teams
football does not build character, it reveals character.
I loathe John Elway
but even I admit Aikman was worse than him.
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Other than Rodgers
WHat QB’s don’t you loathe? Elway, Aikman, Brady… Seems you can’t stand any QB not on the Packers!
Our Biggest Challenge is how we deal w/ Success!
Brady & Elway are the only ones I truly hate
I think Aikman is just overrated as a QB/lame as an announcer, it’s not really hate. I hate Tebow coverage; I dislike Kurt Warner & Tebow, but I wouldn’t call it hate.
Here’s a list of historical QBs I like:
Johnny Unitas, Otto Graham, Bobby Layne, Sammy Baugh, Len Dawson, Jack Kemp, Dan Fouts, Daryle Lamonica, Kordell Stewart, Rich Gannon, Jim Kelly, Doug Flutie, Trent Green, Roger Staubach, Don Meredith, Fran Tarkenton, George Blanda, Sid Luckman, Y. A. Tittle, Terry Bradshaw (as a QB), Doug Williams, Vinny Testaverde
Active QBs:
Philip Rivers, Matt Stafford, Drew Brees, Jason Campbell, Kyle Orton, Ben Roethlisberger, Josh Freeman (that cost me in fantasy), Rex Grossman (though mostly only due to Charlie Kelly’s post)
I didn’t realize you’d be so upset at a 30:2 ratio…
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by Wiedmann on Dec 30, 2011 1:28 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah I don't like Elway either after what he did to Baltimore
football does not build character, it reveals character.
the 2005 Colts started 13-0, lost once, and shut their starters down for the last two games
because everything was clinched. They were far and away the best team in the regular season that year. And in 2007 they were the second best in the regular season, and you could argue they should have beaten NE
football does not build character, it reveals character.
LOL
We can beat anybody and all of those 13+ comebacks we had this year are proof that this team can turn it on whenever they want to.
Remind me, how many wins did you have this year?
Remind me, how many elite quarterbacks did you beat this year?
Remind me, how many teams did you beat that had a winning record this year?
Remind me, how did Thanksgiving go for you?
Remind me, how many games have you won this year when Calvin Johnson [your entire offense] didn’t score a TD or go over 100 yards?
Remind me, how many personal foul penalties has your team committed this year?
A lot of you Packer fans are so arrogant about your team that it makes me laugh. There’s been a lot of teams in the history of the NFL who have dominated the regular season just to lose in the playoffs or regular season. Don’t think the Packers are unbeatable because all it takes is one bad injury to Rodgers to end your season. It happened to us last year with Stafford and we finished 6-10.
Remind me, how did last years Super Bowl go?
Dude, if the Lions win a Super Bowl in the next ten years, the arrogance you guys would display would be ridiculous. I mean, look how much you display when your team barely has a winning record!
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by arodgb on Dec 27, 2011 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
We dominated a division in the AFC West by outscoring them 159-50 in those 4 games and you guys barely beat the Chargers and even lost to the Chiefs.
Horrible argument. It amazes me how many people wanna compare common opponents and then try and insinuate that because of it team x or y will win. Why wouldn’t we just look at our matchup this season? You know, when we were dominating you 24-0 and then took our foot off the pedal.
The one injury to Rodgers and your team is done argument is poor too. That applies to pretty much any team with a good QB. And on top of that, Rodgers has missed like 2 games in 4 seasons. Really, the only way he gets hurt is if he gets clobbered in the pocket but because of how good his pocket presence is I just don’t see it happening. He’s picked and chose his spots more carefully this year when scrambling and has done a good job of getting down before he’s about to get hit. Odds are that he doesn’t end up getting hurt. Hoping for him to is basically just that — a hope.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Dec 27, 2011 10:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I've said it before, and now,
I’ll say it for your enlightenment.
If you want to spew crap about the Packers and our fans, limit it to your own home site.
Say anything you want about any one of your three division rivals over there, and I’ve got no problem with it.
But, don’t go bringing it over to the site of the 14-1 defending Super Bowl champions, when your team hasn’t won a championship since 1957, and is one of the 12 teams in the playoff party for the first time in 12 years.
Your team hasn’t done anything, yet, I am more respectful to you and them when I go over to PoD than you are to us over here!
Grow up, son!
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"We're nobody's underdog!"
"We don't play scared!"
After further review,
the Munsters of the Midway still suck!
by NorthStarr on Dec 27, 2011 10:23 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
you think the Lions will win next week for sure?
I think it’s gonna be a close, hard fought game. You don’t just roll over against a divisional rival at home because you have home field locked up.
football does not build character, it reveals character.
In the NFL its never a sure thing.
That’s what I love about it. I’d never bet my immortal soul on a football game. I’m just happy enough to believe my Lions have the ability to win any game. I fully understand, though, that its never a foregone conclusion.
It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.
Twitter is for pussies. I follow people in real life.
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." - Charlie McCarthy
I bet five bucks on a ten-team parlay in Vegas this weekend because I could.
Close enough.
I’d never bet my immortal soul on a football game.
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by Steven Schweickert on Dec 27, 2011 4:40 PM CST up reply actions
If it's not GB or NO coming out of the NFC
it’s gonna be Detroit, IMO.
But it’s like 95% likely it’s gonna be either GB or NO
football does not build character, it reveals character.
Could it be possible for Detroit to follow in Green Bay’s footsteps? I guess we’ll just have to wait and see.
Doubt it. They’re young and talented but with that youth comes inexperience, which leads to dumb mistakes. The Packers struggled with it for 3 years while our core guys gained more experience.
I don’t think it’s realistic to think that the penalties will just disappear — especially playing against the best of the best. I still think that secondary is vulnerable too.
One more thing — our running game really isn’t that weak. We just don’t really ever ran that much because of how Rodgers is playing. I think we’ve shown that we can run pretty well if we play off the passing attack.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Dec 27, 2011 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
FTFY
Detroit: Best quarterback since Milt Plum.
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"We're nobody's underdog!"
"We don't play scared!"
After further review,
the Munsters of the Midway still suck!
My question is...
Why didn’t Charles Tillman shadow Jordy last night? Was he not playing? Cause, Jordy/Jones abused Bowman last night. In fact, I don’t know what the hell RM was thinking putting Bowman in one on one coverage with Jordy. And he did it multiple times, near the goal line.
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What else
could he do. Single up receivers opposite Nelson and Rodgers goes there, 6 points.
fucking do some awesome crazy shit, dude
ugh
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And also...
Rodgers’ passer rating this season on throws to Nelson entering the game was 156 and it was a perfect 158.3 Sunday night.
That’s just ridiculous.
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Wow, a whole thread dedicated to me!
I tried to come over here and be nice and some Packer fan started in about how I threw a tantrum or something so I defended myself. Last year a lot of you weren’t so brash and full of yourselves, now a lot of you are acting like the 2011 Packers are the next 80’s 49ers or something.
Please, I’m just trying to be cool and friendly I didn’t come over here to be a jerk. Sorry if I offended anybody.
From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!
by DLions4Eva on Dec 27, 2011 4:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions
lol
twitter.com/AlfredAugust
by Tedaldtada29 on Dec 27, 2011 5:04 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions 6 recs
lol
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Dec 27, 2011 5:21 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
lol
Last year a lot of you weren’t so brash and full of yourselves, now a lot of you are acting like the 2011 Packers are the next 80’s 49ers or something.
Please, I’m just trying to be cool and friendly I didn’t come over here to be a jerk. Sorry if I offended anybody.
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by arodgb on Dec 27, 2011 5:27 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Yes I am here to entertain you guys
Love to get division rival team’s fans going and then apologize for being rude.
I got a twisted sense of humor, I hope you guys just realize I’m all for a good time, even at my own expense.
From 0-16 to the Superbowl baby!
by DLions4Eva on Dec 27, 2011 6:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
im a new guy, dont post much...
Mostly just browse…but this has to stop… I love this site because its not what this thread is…let it go…
I tell everyone that this is intelligent conversation and debate, yes there’s fun n ribbing, but this is ridiculous…
Ok...one more, then we've gotta go...
by das4azwi on Dec 27, 2011 6:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Congrats on your first greened comment!
PackFaninFL: 0
das4azwi: 1
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Why the cheap shot at PFIF?
In Every Climb and Place....
by PhoenicianPakFan on Dec 28, 2011 1:41 AM CST up reply actions
because he campaigns for recs, which people are not impressed by
football does not build character, it reveals character.
Yeah I guess he used to do that pretty heavily at first....
haven’t seen it in a while.
In Every Climb and Place....
by PhoenicianPakFan on Dec 28, 2011 4:55 AM CST up reply actions
As I said, above,
Grow up.
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"We're nobody's underdog!"
"We don't play scared!"
After further review,
the Munsters of the Midway still suck!
by NorthStarr on Dec 27, 2011 10:57 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
No, you aren't all for a good time.
You’re the guy that walks up to a random guy in the bar, slaps him, and then says “we cool, bro?” The manner in which you post has obviously been labeled as inflammatory, so knock it off.
I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!
by msc32887 on Dec 28, 2011 12:07 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
This is the Main Idea:
The Lions are much like the 2009 Packers. You have a talented team, but it lacks discipline. The big thing is this: Until you earn respect, you will never get it. We were in your shoes in 2009.
Beating Brett Favre was very important to us. We certainly had a talented roster in 2009, but the undisciplined play didn’t give us the results we wanted. We also didn’t have much respect that year. Your Lions are in the same situation. It’s a talented team that could beat the Packers. That’s the key word though: could. Until they do, that’s all that it will ever be. Beating the Packers 2nd and 3rd stringers doesn’t count either. Most of us have seen how the Lions fans acted at WCG and on the Ask a Packer Fan Fanpost on POD before the Thanksgiving Game. Unfortunately for you, there were a lot of bad eggs that gave your Lions fans a bad rep. Here’s a tip though: Instead of responding in a defense manner that turns into a tantrum, just walk away.
One game at a time...
it would look something like this.
What do you have against the ring-tailed lemur?
by threadkiller on Dec 27, 2011 7:45 PM CST up reply actions
To me though a lot has to do with the draw
The 2009 Packers were a good team, they just ran into a deadly guantlet in the NFC playoffs. Arizona was very good and got the home field (thanks to a weak division). Had that game been in Lambeau, I confident saying the Packers likely win. New Orleans and Minny were also very good that year. Just a tough run. Packers would have had to knock off three really good teams to reach the Super Bowl.
Last year, it seemed like the Packers had better matchups. After we edged out Philly in the wildcard, we had to beat Atlanta and Chicago who were not as strong as their seeds indicated. I actually was very confident we would beat both, while Philly I couldn’t see better than a toss up. So to me, a lot of it is just the draw. Some years the draw is weak, some years it is very strong.
To my point, this year reminds me of 2009. There are two supreme teams in the league (GB and NO) and several wildcard teams that could be very dangerous (New York comes to mind, Dallas if they are healthy possibly). San Francisco will be a tough out due to their defense. I just don’t think a team like Detroit can beat two of the teams I just listed, let alone three.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Dec 27, 2011 9:24 PM CST up reply actions
Green Bay also started reeeeeaaallllyyyy slow and turned the ball over twice early against AZ
once they got comfortable, the offense was unstoppable, they just choked in OT
football does not build character, it reveals character.
by they
I mean Rodgers, missing a wide open Jennings for what would have easily been a game winning TD.
football does not build character, it reveals character.
It's hard when you're being dragged to the ground by your facemask...
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Rodgers wasn't touched on the play where he missed Jennings wide open
football does not build character, it reveals character.
by sheehan on Dec 28, 2011 2:10 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That's what I always bring up when others bring up the missed call...
win the damn game by making plays you should make. Don’t blame refs afterwards.
In Every Climb and Place....
by PhoenicianPakFan on Dec 28, 2011 4:55 AM CST up reply actions
I still don't agree with that
The missed pass to Jennings was the reason we didn’t win the game at that point in time. The missed facemask was why we lost the game at that point in time. Maybe we would have lost the game later, but at the very least the officials cheated me out of more plays of Packer football that year, which I will never forgive them for.
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by Wiedmann on Dec 28, 2011 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
loser's mentality.
always look at the things you could have done better, not the things beyond your control like the refs missing a call.
football does not build character, it reveals character.
That missed call was absolutely inexcusable.
Certainly the Packers could have won that game by doing things better, but that doesn’t mean the officials didn’t ROYALLY fuck up that call.
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of course they did, but if one was a Vikings fan you could say the same thing about the NFC Championship
with the phantom PI and the non catch that was upheld. But that team threw that game away long before the refs had the chance to make a big mistake, and the Packers missed their opportunity with Rodgers missing an easy TD, and the two early turnovers that put them in a hole.
I definitely agree that was a bad call though, as was the play right before it where Rodgers was hit blatantly helmet to helmet and it went uncalled. But those are the breaks I guess.
football does not build character, it reveals character.
MATT FLYNN WOULD'VE MADE THAT THROW
Your argument is invalid.
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Its the end of the season, both of our teams have little to gain/lose in this game...
so lets keep this thread going all week. Eff it.
LIONS GET THORNS IN THERE PAWS AND NEED MOUSES TO TAKE THEM OUT LOLZ! LINOZ SUCK!!1
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Dec 28, 2011 1:43 AM CST reply actions
I haven't seen this, anywhere (not just APC),
so, for those who don’t know it,
the Packers clinched something else on Sunday that we haven’t accomplished since 1966 — the unmatched best record in the NFL.
For any nitpickers out there, what I mean is this.
Every time the Packers finished 13-3, or 12-4, and it was the best record in the league, there was another team with the same record, so the Packers were only tied for the best record.
This year season regular season, we can finish no worse than 14-2, and no other team can be better than 13-3.
And, if you’re wondering, yrs, the ’66 Pack did have a better record than any other team in the NFL and/or the AFL.
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"We're nobody's underdog!"
"We don't play scared!"
After further review,
the Munsters of the Midway still suck!
Something else I hadn't realized.
From the USA Today’s Packers team report,
The Packers have committed a league-low 70 penalties this season, a frugal number that didn’t budge in the 35-21 win over the Chicago Bears on Sunday night. Green Bay didn’t have one accepted penalty in the game — the first time that’s happened for the Packers since a Nov. 25, 1990, win over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
The only penalty called against the Packers on Sunday was an offside call against Jarrett Bush on a field goal by the Bears’ Robbie Gould in the second quarter. Chicago took the points and declined the penalty.
The Packers also had a mistake-free game by not giving the football to the Bears.
“When you have zero penalties, I don’t recall being a part of that,” McCarthy said. “No penalties and not turning the ball over, that’s a good formula for winning.”
Green Bay has evolved from being one of the most penalized teams in the league under McCarthy — it had 113 accepted penalties in 2007, 110 in ‘08 and 118 in ’09 — to being a team of rules-abiding players.
The Packers had just 78 penalties last season, tying for third fewest in the league. That is the team’s lowest total for a full season since the inception of the 16-game schedule in 1978.
Considering Green Bay hasn’t had more than seven accepted penalties in a game this season, the Packers will have a strong chance to establish a new low watermark when they end the regular season Sunday with a home game against the Detroit Lions.
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"We're nobody's underdog!"
"We don't play scared!"
After further review,
the Munsters of the Midway still suck!
Crazy stat when you consider...
We committed 20 penalties in a single game last year.
Drastically cutting down on penalties has taken our team from good to great. It has kind of gone unnoticed too due to Rodger’s year, the superbowl, etc.
Shit happens when you win championships
by Andrew Clark on Dec 28, 2011 8:34 AM CST up reply actions
I smell a conspiracy!!!
Packers' Magic Numbers:
Clinch Division = DONE!!!
Clinch 1st Rd Bye = DONE!!!
Clinch Homefield = DONE!!!
Also, from the same article, ;)
—After notching 14 wins for the first time in team history, the Packers won’t necessarily rest on their laurels to end the regular season.
“We have full intentions of being 15-1 come Sunday afternoon,” head coach Mike McCarthy declared Monday.
Conspicuously missing from the opening statement?
The words
in the regular season
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"We're nobody's underdog!"
"We don't play scared!"
After further review,
the Munsters of the Midway still suck!
A reputable newspaper such as the USA Today would never have factual errors, would it?
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