How should the Packers handle the QB situation on Sunday?
by Timothy Bryce on Dec 27, 2011 9:17 PM CST
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PrintHey everyone, this is an idea I have been tossing around in my head the last few days and I thought I would share it with the rest of you. As you know, the Packers have clinched the home field advantage. With that clinching the Packers have bought themselves three weeks of being able to take a step back, get healthy, think about things, maybe change a few things, and figure out how to get a PASS RUSH. This is particular post is about the QB situation. There are many different ways the Packers could play this this Sunday. They could start Rodgers and try to win. They could do a bunch of other things as well.
So, what should the Packers do with their QB situation on Sunday?
Let me know what you think.
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What do you think, Herm?
Yeah, I’m going to go with coach on this one.
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Yeah, although I would pull him earlier if those dirty fucks start getting in cheap-shots.
by mike_o on Dec 28, 2011 8:13 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
this is the only scenario where I'd wanna see him pulled early
football does not build character, it reveals character.
Funny how you conveniently forget
That a Packers special teamer was ejected from the game before Suh’s stomp, not to mention the story that broke out of Seattle about the shoe untying.
Jerry Glanville said long ago, if the Packers are not cheating they aint trying. Any team in the NFL at various points in various seasons could be labelled and called dirty. Yours too.
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by Evilsmurf on Dec 31, 2011 12:00 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Right, that's why multiple players from multiple teams have called the Packers out on it...
What’s that? They haven’t? Oh, that’s right… it’s YOUR team being called dirty.
by mike_o on Dec 31, 2011 12:35 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
To be fair...
the shot by Lee was also uncalled for no matter what was happening during the game. Can’t lose your cool like that.
In Every Climb and Place....
by PhoenicianPakFan on Dec 31, 2011 1:58 AM CST up reply actions
Oh, I agree.
I was referring to him saying the Packers are a dirty team; who exactly has called the Packers dirty?
I think all teams get chippy from time to time...
its the flagrant post-whistle stuff that gets on film and builds reputations, and a reputation is tough to get rid of whether fair or not.
In Every Climb and Place....
by PhoenicianPakFan on Dec 31, 2011 5:58 AM CST up reply actions
..not to mention the story that broke out of Seattle about the shoe untying.
Hahaha even if that is true, it doesn’t justify him slamming Dietrich-Smith’s head into the ground 3 times, and then getting up and stomping on his arm. I doubt that story is true either, as Dietrich-Smith and Campen have both said that it was a lie. The shoe tying thing is nothing more then an excuse, just like the one he gave in the press conference after our first game.
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by packallday555 on Jan 1, 2012 1:48 AM CST up reply actions
I believe we'll see Rodgers in 3 quarters of the game
Only way he’d be pulled at the half is if we’re beating the Lions 35-0…. or EDS starts untying more shoes to create more ejections.
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Id we play Flynn the whole way, we will probably win
He’s the best backup in the league, he nearly beat the Pats in foxborough. I wouldn’t want to put him in halfway for Rodgers because Rodgers very well could get injured in the 1st half, and it takes some time to get comfortable entering in the middle of the game.
Montee Ball didn't win the Heisman. F__ everybody.
Tajh Boyd and Dre' Ellington are the future.
I'm starting to feel less and less comfortable with Flynn as a QB.
He had the one good game last year, which will probably parlay into a starting job next year, but I attribute his success more to the same reason Ponder had success in the first game against us this year, which is a lack of tape on him. I think the organization would have been best served to trade him before the season when his value was the highest.
Of course this is looking at with hindsight which as we know is 20/20, and I don’t fault the team for keeping him, but I don’t think he will ever be more than a game manager type QB.
Packers' Magic Numbers:
Clinch Division = DONE!!!
Clinch 1st Rd Bye = DONE!!!
Clinch Homefield = DONE!!!
Not to mention the Patriots had the worst pass defense last year
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Yeah…but we want someone ELSE to discover that after they pay him! :-)
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I agree: start Flynn
Matt Flynn deserves a chance to show why he was so sought after before the season – remember he was being looked at pretty intently.
And I think the man is up to the task. I’m not the least bit worried about Aaron Rodgers getting rusty and I think Matt Flynn can show some stuff out there. If he starts for the Pack, the Lions will start thinking it’s a gimmie and – I already know the first quarter will be rough, but once Flynn settles down, he’ll start putting some numbers on them.
"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Vince Lombardi
I think playing Flynn
the whole game would be the smart move for two reasons. First, the Lions have very little game film on Flynn. Second in the event Detroit does play the Pack in the playoffs it is one less game film the Lions will have on Rodgers.
"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching
by RealityIsOptionable on Dec 28, 2011 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
Coaches/players/coordinators spend hours watching film, and it gives them an edge. They won’t be ready for Flynn, and they will get less chances to key on the tendencies (if he has any tendencies besides throwing TDs lol) of Rodgers.
Montee Ball didn't win the Heisman. F__ everybody.
Tajh Boyd and Dre' Ellington are the future.
by BlackPack-fan on Dec 28, 2011 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
Please start Rodgers
Hoping that Suh sacks him, unscrews his head and then stomps on it. All kidding aside congrats to the Packers and especially Rodgers on their great season.
Go Lions!
by RedWingGuy on Dec 28, 2011 11:53 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
You tossed this idea around in your head the last few days and came to no conclusion
on your own as to who should play QB against the Lions? What are you, a pinball machine?
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I do have my own conclusion. I just prefer to ask others and make this a conversation. This site gives me the ability to do that. I would like to them to start Harrell and play him the entire game. The Packers and the rest of the NFL already know what they have in Matt Flynn. However there is this interesting QB named Graham Harrell on the Packers roster who we have heard good things about. How about putting him on the field and finding out how he responds in an actual game situation?
by Timothy Bryce on Dec 28, 2011 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
Not the Preseason
If you start Harrell then you jeopardize the entire teams comradery. These are grown men who are getting paid millions of dollars, I dont think they will like your idea very much. Sorry if you have a man crush on Harrell…
"Football isn't a contact sport, it's a collision sport. Dancing is a contact sport."
one half
you need to make sure the starters are still in the same page. Entire starting offenses never get 2 weeks off from playing, I don’t want to risk there being rust to start the first playoff game, especially since statistically the first quarter is when the D plays its worst.
Plus all this talk on how Brees may have passed Rodgers in MVP voting is ridiculous and a game off for Rodgers might get Brees an MVP for some reason
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by uofmike on Dec 28, 2011 2:13 PM CST via Android app reply actions 1 recs
I think we should assume Stafford will play the whole game and plan accordingly
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Unless the game is a blow out (either way)
I’d be very surprised if Stafford does not play the entire game. I think Detroit wants to put 11 wins on the season and get that #5 seed.
"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching
by RealityIsOptionable on Dec 28, 2011 5:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Detroit should be playing this game like a playoff game
We have the chance of playing the winner of Dallas and the Giants rather than the Saints in the 1st round. Matchups mean everthing and we match up better with Dallas or the Giants in the 1st round. There’s no reason to try jumping over the mountain when you can get a step or two up before making that jump..
YEAH, this game should be HUGE for the Lions…this year, the diff between the 5 adn 6 seed is HUGE, plus the six seed would mean a guaranteed game against GB in round two which is probably not something they want either.
The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010
Depends on who wins the other game. We get the lowest seed that moves on. If the Falcons get the 6 seed and beat the 3 seed, we play the 6 seed.
The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010
That's reliant on Matt Ryan winning a game away from the Georgia Dome
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by Wiedmann on Dec 30, 2011 1:42 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well I didn’t say I felt it was possible…just that them being the five seed doesn’t guarantee a Packer matchup, whereas the six seed does.
The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010
Well if you think the Falcons can go into the Saints house
and win in the 1st round, I’ll let you keep that thought…
Pretty sure no one thought the Seahawks would beat the Saints last year…RIGHT???
The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010
But, the Saints are a different team on the road. :)
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"We're nobody's underdog!"
"We don't play scared!"
After further review,
the Munsters of the Midway still suck!
There's no way Rodgers doesn't start this game.
It means a lot for guys to have longest started streaks. Also, we need him to stay sharp because he isn’t going to face anyone for 2 weeks!
SUPER BOWL CHAMPS
I think the 'we need him to stay sharp by playing in a game' argument
is about as valid as the ‘we need offseason workouts’ argument. But that’s just my opinion.
football does not build character, it reveals character.
I'm not worried about streaks
Also, Rodgers will have a full week of practice during the bye week to face either the #5 or $6 seed. The divisional game will be enough of a tune-up to get ready for the Saints/49ers in the Conference championship
"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching
by RealityIsOptionable on Dec 28, 2011 9:55 PM CST up reply actions
gotta put McMoran's face over steve's to complete the picture though
football does not build character, it reveals character.
Did this in like 5 seconds for ya...
Could have been way better, but deadlines man.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Dec 30, 2011 12:48 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Exactly
Flynn did put up a 3 burger against the Lions last year when he replaced Rodgers.
"But the point is, finger-pointing is just what sports fans do when something doesn't go right." -- Kurt Mensching
by RealityIsOptionable on Dec 29, 2011 7:15 PM CST up reply actions
a 2.5 burger?
As in 250 yds… Thats what Flynn threw for vs NE. Not 3 bills. And against the leos he had 177 to be precise. Not sure exactly what you mean 3 burger…
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# Burger
Stands for points.
"Football isn't a contact sport, it's a collision sport. Dancing is a contact sport."
3=3
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201012120det.htm
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by Wiedmann on Dec 30, 2011 11:39 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You sure seem to have a lot of these misunderstadings...
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by Wiedmann on Dec 30, 2011 1:44 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Forgive me...
I’m not a computer geek. I actually speak in english…
Our Biggest Challenge is how we deal w/ Success!
Whatever...
I tested in the 95 percentile on a test for vocabulary… So yeah, I DO speak english!
Our Biggest Challenge is how we deal w/ Success!
Not to be picky but...
doesn’t this mean you’ve tested in the same group as 95% of the rest of test takers?
In Every Climb and Place....
by PhoenicianPakFan on Dec 30, 2011 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
Means I'm above 95%...
I have to talk down so he can keep up…
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well obviously nobody tested your spelling or grammar
because damn. That is all.
football does not build character, it reveals character.
I don't give a damn about it on here...
Didn’t know we were all being scored on grammar or spelling. But if you wanna start something yet again your off to a good start! Seems you just don’t know when to keep your trap SHUT!
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Hey! You changed your sig!
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Dec 31, 2011 2:00 AM CST up reply actions
Several weeks ago, actually.
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"We're nobody's underdog!"
"We don't play scared!"
After further review,
the Munsters of the Midway still suck!
It's not really from the computer...
at least thats not where I hear it. Usually it’s Mooch that says “30-burger” or “40-berguer”, etc. on NFL Network, but that’s the only place I’ve ever heard it said.
In Every Climb and Place....
by PhoenicianPakFan on Dec 30, 2011 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
I never heard of it before, either
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"We're nobody's underdog!"
"We don't play scared!"
After further review,
the Munsters of the Midway still suck!
"3 burger" = "3 points"
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 30, 2011 8:48 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Start Rodgers and have him play the first half.
After what I saw Flynn do last December against New England, I’d trust him to keep any lead Rodgers builds up. Chances are the Lions probably won’t get in many good chances against Rodgers given his quick released against pressure.
And also, I think MM is going to do this because he and the fans are not going to want to lose at home to the Lions going into the playoffs, regardless of how much meaning the game has.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 30, 2011 12:10 AM CST reply actions
Hopefully the Packers start all their starters, and leave them in all game too
No doubt that Rogers is the best QB on your team, so as a Lions fan I want to play the best and beat the best. If we lose so be it. But I don’t want any cheap wins.
From the Packers perspective it makes sense to sit some players and not worry about the game. Some might think that it would be better to beat the Lions and force them to play the Saints. Either way you get a dangerous team out of your way for later. It is arguable who would beat up the Saints more, or have a better shot at taking them out, between Atlanta and Detroit I am not so sure that the Lions are the bigger threat to the Saints. After all they are division rivals and seem to play each other physically.
From the perspective of who the Packers would rather face later, should the 6 seed knock off the Saints, I would think that they would want to face Atlanta. The Packers have owned the Falcons of late and much like the logic above, I think the Lions would play a more intense and physical game against the packers down the road.
So while I want the Packers to play to win, and have the game be legit no matter how it turns out, in some ways it makes more sense to set the Falcons up to go against the Saints. “shrug” All moot anyhow since the coaches make the decisions and all we can do is hope for a good, clean, injury free game on Sunday.
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I think, from all information coming out of the media, that McCarthy is planning on playing Rodgers...
for only a short time, if at all. He said he wants all three QBs to get time, so I’m not sure if that’s dependent on the score or just the time in the game.
He is also not playing several starters who are ailing a bit and will probably give some guys time that he may want to see in the playoffs if they give a good showing. I’m guessing this will be played like the 3rd Preseason game more than anything else but you never know.
In Every Climb and Place....
by PhoenicianPakFan on Dec 31, 2011 2:02 AM CST up reply actions
Has McCarthy actually said he "wants" to play Harrell?
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
I thought that's what he was implying in an article that was on NFL.com yesterday....
it said something about playing all three QB’s.
In Every Climb and Place....
by PhoenicianPakFan on Dec 31, 2011 4:38 AM CST up reply actions
Yep.
Heard and read this comment too.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Dec 31, 2011 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
Just one thing.
Who’s Rogers?
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"We're nobody's underdog!"
"We don't play scared!"
After further review,
the Munsters of the Midway still suck!
by NorthStarr on Jan 1, 2012 2:00 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
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