Packers-Raiders Series History
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 6, 2011 10:40 AM CST
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PrintWell, boys and girls, it is Tuesday, and that means it is time for this week's version of my Packers series history report. Today, I will be covering Green Bay's history against the Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders.
This is a somewhat unusual series, in how it has played out. More after the jump.
With the NFL/AFL Merger taking place in 1970, the chance opened up for the Packers to play AFC teams. The Packers-Raiders series is tied 5-5, with the Raiders winning the first five and the Packers winning the next five. Green Bay's first regular-season game against the Raiders was in early 1972. The Raiders won a close game. The 1976 game, in Oakland, was the closest game in this series until 1999, but the Raiders again won on the way to their first Super Bowl title.
Green Bay next played the Raiders in 1978. This was Green Bay's first loss that season, a 28-3 blowout at Lambeau Field. The Raiders beat the Packers again in 1984 in Los Angeles and shut out the Packers 20-0 to open the 1987 season. In 1990, the Packers finally beat the Raiders, 29-16, in Los Angeles. This was their only win in Los Angeles from 1967-1991, as they lost every other road game against the Rams and Raiders during that time span.
In 1993, the Packers clinched a playoff berth by shutting out the Raiders 28-0 in Green Bay. Highlighting this game was a Reggie White fumble recovery and lateral to Leroy Butler, who made the first ever jump into the Lambeau Field stands to celebrate with the fans. The 1999 game was notable in the fact that it was Ray Rhodes' first game as coach. In that game, the Raiders led 24-14 midway through the fourth quarter, only for Brett Favre to pull off a comeback as Green Bay won 28-24.
But it was the 2003 game, in Oakland, which may be the most notable game in this series. Playing just after the death of his father, Favre threw for 399 yards and four touchdowns, as Green Bay won 41-7. Most recently, in December 2007, the Packers blew out the Raiders 38-7 in Green Bay, clinching the NFC North division title for Green Bay.
In the playoffs, there has been just one Packers-Raiders game, Super Bowl II, which the Packers won 33-14. This was a very notable game as it was Vince Lombardi's final game as Green Bay's head coach. Bart Starr won the second of his two Super Bowl MVP awards, and Lombardi received the trophy that would soon be named after him.
What are your memories of the Packers playing the Raiders?
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For sure that 2003 game..
I really thought Javon Walker was going to emerge as a big time receiver..oh well.
I love wins. Wins are good for the soul.- Barry Alvarez Sep 25, 2005
We expect to win.- Ted Thompson July 28, 2011
He had one really good season (2004),
Then held out, then destroyed his knee in the first game of 2005, and he was never the same again.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 6, 2011 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
What in I retesting series, Lombardi's last game, the invention of the Lambeau Leap, the Favre father tribute
Crazy
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Dec 6, 2011 11:27 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Interesting*
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Dec 6, 2011 11:27 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
11 games.
5-5 in the regular season, 1-0 in the playoffs.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 6, 2011 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
First meeting
Green Bay’s first game against the Raiders was in early 1972
Their first regular season meeting was Sep. 22, 1972. The first overall meeting was Jan. 14, 1968 in a little thing I like to call “Super Bowl II”.
Whoops.
I fixed the post. It’s corrected for that now.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 6, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
How Many Remember...
…the pre-game hype leading up to that AFL-NFL Championship Game (it wasn’t officially the Super Bowl yet)?
The 13-1 Raiders had dominated the AFL, with “Mad Bomber” Lamonica and a ferocious defense-67 sacks for 666 yards lost. Ike Lassiter, Tom Keating, Dan Birdwell and Ben Davidson (not to mention MLB Dan Connors) pledged to demolish Bart Starr and show up the Packers.
There was added spice because Davidson had been released by the Pack. Most of this bluster was Al Davis stagecraft to sell tix and build the TV audience. And we all know how the game turned out.
I ask again, why is this game in Lambeau and the Chiefs one at Arrowhead?
they played in the same places last time (2007), I thought it was supposed to rotate?
these mysteries keep me up at night.
football does not build character, it reveals character.
They started doing this weird round-robin thing last year.
It didn’t affect the Packers at all in 2010, but there were other teams, some strange scheduling happened. You recall the “Green Bay Packers 2011 Opponents” post I made where I incorrectly posted the opponents because of this scheduling thing.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 6, 2011 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
Case in point from this year:
Look at the games against the AFC West:
Chicago: @ Den, @ Oak, vs. KC, vs. SD
Detroit: @ Den, @ KC, vs. Oak, vs. SD
Green Bay: @ KC, @ SD, vs. Den, vs. Oak
Minnesota: @ Oak, @ SD, vs. Den, vs. KC
Before this round-robin schedule, Chicago and Detroit would have the same locations against AFC West opponents, and Green Bay and Minnesota would have the inverse of Chicago and Detroit.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 6, 2011 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
Whoops.
Detroit should be @ Den, @ Oak, vs. KC, vs. SD
Minnesota should be @ KC, @ SD, vs. Den, vs. Oak.
In 2007, the last time the Packers played the AFC West, the Packers opponents were as follows: @ Den, @ KC, vs. Oak, vs. SD. Minnesota was the same. Chicago and Detroit were @ Oak, @ SD, vs. Den, vs. KC.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 6, 2011 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
don't understand why they would change that
I’d be kinda pissed if I was a Raiders fan, first missing on a chance to see live Favre’s MVP like run in 2007, then Rodgers’ ridiculous 2011/undefeated Packers season.
football does not build character, it reveals character.
Be a Chiefs fan.
Packers visited in 2007, will visit in 2011.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 6, 2011 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
I read last year
That the reason they switched up the pairings was so that the NFC teams didn’t have to travel to California twice. I think they figured it wasn’t fair if two teams had the two timezone trip while the other two didn’t have to.
I did a little searching but couldn’t find an article talking about it. I think it was just at the end of a story, like a little notebook item.
1993. no question.
It says a lot about my age. I wasn’t around for SB II. 1993 was still the beginning of the Packers being good. In my lifetime, they never were (apologies to the almost good cardiac pack) good at all. This was a blow-out. It was a fun game, and it made me believe in how dominant they could become.
18 years later, I have no memory of any other plays, but I can still picture Reggie getting pulled down at the sideline… pitching the ball to LeRoy… LeRoy motioning to the fans “get ready, I’m coming up”… and the broadcaster saying something about bringing back the connection between this team and the fans.
One of my all-time favorite Packer moments.
Mine too! What a fine one!
I also remember that announcer talking about the players connecting to the fans in that first ever Lambeau Leap by Butler. That was the eve of thirty years of misery ending as I recall.
I ran into four Oakland fans here yesterday evening. Talking alot of smack about how awful
the Packers looked in New York and how bad the Raiders were going to dissect them. Seems
they must still be dwelling in the 1980 era. I think our secondary and LBs, especially if Bishop plays, are going to have a memorable evening. I wouldn’t want to be Carson Palmer come next Sunday.
BJK
If the Packers looked awful, how did the Raiders look losing 34-14 to Miami?
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by Wiedmann on Dec 6, 2011 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
There is no reasoning with a Raiders fan.
"I agree but dont agree"
by juggernaut400 on Dec 6, 2011 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
You have to remember,
Raiders fans are generally considered (along with Eagles fans) to be among the worst fans in football. Whether it’s stabbing Chargers fans, throwing trash and beer bottles at someone who’s not in Raiders gear, or causing fights throughout the stadium, Raiders fans are usually the culprits. But don’t try telling them that. I have, and the Raiders fan I know plays the victim card on the spot.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 6, 2011 5:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
the Raider fans I know are nothing like that
Being on the west coast – natives are usually Raider, Niner or Sea Chickens fans. In Oregon – we are forced to watch the SeaChicken game on Fox, CSB usually has the Raiders on. There are ton of Raider fans in Portland – many of whom have season tickets. They are normal people just like most Packer fans are.
Sure.
Maybe it’s just the games in Oakland/San Diego/the Bay Area which are like that.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 6, 2011 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
I met a couple Raiders fans at Lambeau
And they were a hoot.
I mean, sure, the stabbings and shootings and fighting would prevent me from going to Oakland for a game, but I definitely wouldn’t mind hanging out with Raiders fans outside of that parking lot.
I went to a Raiders Chiefs game in KC…it was an interesting affair, you would have thought it was halloween with all the costumes. A few scary moments during the game as it was a close dead heat game but in the end it was a fun experience. Arrowhead is great, Raider fans are pretty fun…very very passionate.
The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010
Ted Hendricks
My early memories of the Packer/Raiders – is wondering why we ever traded Ted Hendrick to the Raiders! Every time the I watched a Raiders game (because they were always in the playoffs in the 70’s) there was the Mad Stork changing the course of the game.
Whle the Packers langished with linebackers the likes of Jim Carter, Gary Weaver, Jim Guano and Tom Toner.
The Raiders have always been my (distant) 2nd team in the NFL. Mainly because I idolized Howie Long and Bo Jackson when I was a kid. Plus, as a kid, the bad guys were always kinda cool.
"I agree but dont agree"
Bo knows
I loved Bo Jackson, man I wish I could have seen what he’d do with a full career!!
The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010
The only time I ever went to the Pro Bowl
was the year Bo got injured.
I already knew before the injury that I was going,
and was really looking forward to seeing him.
I was SO disappointed.
Oh, well.
At least I got to see Sterling Sharpe. :)
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but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
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93 game
My most lasting memory of this game was John Jurkovich chasing down Jeff Hostetler, climbing on his back and holding on until Hostetler couldn’t support him anymore and the two tumbled to the ground for Jurko’s only sack as a Packer.
...
Jurkovic had 7.5 sacks as a Packer.
1993 was his best season in the NFL, when he recorded 5.5 of his career total of 9 sacks.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 7, 2011 11:25 PM CST up reply actions
My Dad is a Raiders Fan
They are a second team to me so this game is always a fun one. My dad has been saying for weeks that Oakland is going to deliver the first loss to GB .
Scowling at Padres Losses since 1981
Isn't it funny
that we all thought that 03 Raiders game was one of the best games of Favre’s career,
but when you look at his stats, that’s what Rodgers does every week.
by nvar21 on Dec 7, 2011 3:05 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
I have that game recorded...
…but there was one play where Favre, in that famous, unforgettable game in 2003, where he launched a bomb deep down the field, toward the end of the 1st half. Javon Walker went up in triple coverage and came up with the ball.
Two of the Defensive backs covering him on that play were named “Woodson” and a rookie named “Asomugha” — might have heard of them.
Javon Walker was THAT good and Favre’s performance that night was THAT special.
One of my all-time games.
Looking forward to the Packers three-peating and visiting President Ron Paul at the White House in 2013
by PackFaninFL on Dec 7, 2011 3:47 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
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