Examining The 2011 Green Bay Packers: Offensive Line
The offensive line for the Green Bay Packers is one filled with solid veterans, talented youngsters, and biggest question marks. Some team legends and possible future team legends are accented by some of the Packers' most polarizing players. in some way, shape, or form, the front office of the Packers will be addressing the offensive line position in a serious way this offseason, provided labor negotiations work out.
Our last post in this series came from Ryan, examining the Packers' tight end and fullback situations. In the coming days, Tex will look at the special teams, while Mitchell will look at the defensive line. For now, let's jump into our offensive line evaluations.
#76 Chad Clifton
Player Progression (progress/stagnate/regress): Regress
Team Standing (expanded/same/diminished role): Same role
Likelihood Of Long-Term Retention (high/medium/low): Low
After tough battles with injuries and just plain poor form, Clifton re-gained his old swagger this season, particularly in the latter half of the year. Once one of the NFL's most promising young offensive linemen, the hit by Warren Sapp that shattered his hip dramatically altered the course of his career. Years later, at age 34, he was elected to the Pro Bowl for the first time in his career, having appeared in the game in the 2007-08 season as a replacement.
Clifton will walk into training camp as the starter at left tackle, but one has to wonder how many years he has left in the tank. Linemen can last longer than skill players who rely on speed and change of direction abilities, but 35 years old - Clifton's age when the season starts - is pretty old for any professional athlete. He's got at least one more year of great football left in the tank, but what Clifton can give to the team beyond that is anyone's guess. Despite his up and down play between the Sapp hit and last season, Clifton should be remembered as a truly great Packer.
#65 Mark Tauscher
Player Progression: Regress
Team Standing: Diminished Role
Likelihood Of Long-Term Retention: Poor
Like Clifton, Tauscher will always be remembered as a fantastic Packer, one of the best from an era. I remember Back when I was pretty young and Earl Dotson went down with an injury, it meant that Brett Favre was going to get creamed by opposing defensive lines. Thankfully, a rookie named Mark Tauscher stepped up, and more than 10 years later, he's nearing the end of his career.
Mark Tauscher is almost certainly done as a starter for the Green Bay Packers, sadly. His age appears to have finally gotten the best of him, and the youngsters look ready to step up.
#75 Bryan Bulaga
Player Progression: Progress
Team Standing: Expanded Role
Likelihood Of Long-Term Retention: High
It's tough to tell if Bulaga's future is going to be at left tackle or right tackle, but in any event, he appears to have a very long future ahead of him as a member of the Green Bay Packers. Bulaga was very good in most of his 12 starts, though it looked like the long NFL season might be getting to the rookie at the end of the regular season. However, he played very well in the playoffs, and he'll be better next year with 20 games, plus another NFL conditioning program behind him.
His future depends on not just the health and durability of Chad Clifton, but also on other personnel moves along the offensive line. It was thought that Bulaga was being groomed to take over at left tackle while T.J. Lang was being groomed to play Bulaga's current right tackle position, but this will depend on other personnel moves.
#73 Daryn Colledge
Player Progression: Stagnate
Team Standing: Same or non-existent role
Likelihood Of Long-Term Retention: Poor
Daryn Colledge is an unrestricted free agent, and should labor negotiations get wrapped up, it seems plausible that there would be a team willing to pay him more and give him a more solid guarantee on a starting spot than the Packers. While Colledge is certainly a competent player, he's generally thought of as the weakest link of the Packers' starting offensive linemen. This is more of a compliment to the guys he's surrounded by than a knock on him, but the point is, the Packers can't be married to Colledge at this point and I'm sure he feels similarly about the Packers. If no one bites, he'll be willing to come back, but both the player and the team will be willing to let Colledge go test the market.
#64 Adrian Battles
Player Progression: Progress
Team Standing: Same Role
Likelihood Of Long-Term Retention: Poor
Forgive me, but I don't have a ton of information to give you on a practice squad lineman who went to the University of Minnesota-Mankato. The Vikings released him in their final roster cut last pre-season, and we signed him to the practice squad late. He can't really have a diminished role, and I doubt he'll go backwards as a player. Let's see what the kid does in training camp and the preseason.
#69 Chris Campbell
Player Progression: Progress
Team Standing: Same Role
Likelihood Of Long-Term Retention: Poor
Basically the same deal as Battles, except he plays tackle instead of guard and he was on the practice squad all season. We'll have to wait and see.
#71 Josh Sitton
Player Progression: Progress
Team Standing: Same Role
Likelihood Of Long-Term Retention: High
I think every time someone mentions Josh Sitton to Ted Thompson, our man TT does the Dougie while pointing to himself. "Yep, that was me. Eat it." Thompson has made some spectacular value draft picks en route to building a Super Bowl champion, but Sitton is one of the best. Sitton played tackle at Central Florida and was picked by the Packers in the 4th round of the 2008 NFL draft. In his third season, he was one of the best right guards in the NFL. As good as a lot of the other offensive linemen on the Packers are, I'd take Sitton over all of them. He's the most consistent player on the line, he's only 24, and we're getting away with paying him next to nothing. Getting him in the fourth round and paying him less than seven figures is straight up highway robbery.
#63 Scott Wells
Player Progression: Stagnate
Team Standing: Same Role
Likelihood Of Long-Term Retention: High
Some of you might not be happy with the "stagnate" rating, but at 30 years old, Wells is probably at about the top of his game. He was fantastic last year, just like he's been every year since he won the starting center position. Though not nearly as cheap as Sitton, his five year, $15 million contract is fantastic for a guy of his caliber. If the CBA gets sorted out, Wells is probably in line for a big fat extension. While he'll likely never attain Kevin Mawae or Olin Kreutz status, Wells should be a rock solid starting center for at least another three to four years.
#72 Jason Spitz
Player Progression: Stagnate
Team Standing: Same Role or non-existent role
Likelihood Of Long-Term Retention: Low
Sorry Mr. Spitz, it was nice knowing you. I really thought you were going to be a star. It sucked that things didn't pan out. I hope you become a legit starter and get your career back on track wherever you go.
Player Progression: Stagnate
Team Standing: Same Role
Likelihood Of Long-Term Retention: Low
Dietrich-Smith is a young player, so he could still find a permanent home somewhere, but it seems unlikely that he'll ever play a legitimate role for us. Then again, with Spitz likely out the door, he could be the backup center. One to watch in preseason.
#67 Nick McDonald
Player Progression: Stagnate
Team Standing: Same Role
Likelihood Of Long-Term Retention: Low
Another practice squad youngster you'll have to forgive me for not knowing a ton about. It's conceivable that he could be fighting Dietrich-Smith for a backup center job.
Player Progression: Progress
Team Standing: Same Role
Likelihood Of Long-Term Retention: Medium
Unlike the other offensive linemen that haven't seen much time, I think that Newhouse could have a serious future. He was a fantastic player in college and got unlucky with some injuries this season. He will be given every opportunity to impress in preseason and make the roster, and I like him to do so. He's a very mobile offensive lineman for his giant size, and he might get some time at right tackle if Colledge leaving and Clifton aging causes some kind of shuffle over the next two years.
#70 T.J. Lang
Player Progression: Progress
Team Standing: Expanded role
Likelihood Of Long-Term Retention: High
Unless T.J. Lang's mom reads this site, there isn't a bigger Lang fan on Acme Packing Company than yours truly. We could go into next season with him playing anywhere on the offensive line but center and I'd be confident that he would get the job done. And he could probably learn center in half a season. Every time Lang has come in for injured linemen, regardless of the position he's come into, he's impressed the hell out of me. He very, very rarely makes a mistake, it's incredibly impressive for a young player who isn't even playing every down. He will be a starter for the Packers in the near future, and he'll be a starter for a long time when he gets there.
So, conclusions? The Packers are good enough to get the job done at offensive line, but they could use some reinforcements. Daryn Colledge is likely gone, Chad Clifton and Mark Tauscher are on the wrong side of 30 by quite a bit, and we don't know what, if anything, the practice squad guys can give us going forward. The sky won't fall if the Packers don't get better on the o-line, but this is certainly an important position for the front office to address in the offseason.
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From what I've heard
- McDonald might be our best OL prospect, even more promising than Newhouse. I can’t remember where I read it, but I read an article about how much our coaches were falling in love with the young McDonald.
I agree with your assessment of Newhouse. He’s got a future on the Packers line.
I heard that too
but I disagree with it. Personally, I haven’t seen anything special in McDonald, but then again, I’m not employed by the Green Bay Packers.
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For sure.
I think the best indicators for this sort of thing are the short tid bits and stories that cross the blogs of the media that works in the facility and/or around the team. I also take writers like Matt Bowen pretty seriously, because he’s a former player, and he explains things thoroughly.
For sure.
I think the best indicators for this sort of thing are the short tid bits and stories that cross the blogs of the media that works in the facility and/or around the team. I also take writers like Matt Bowen pretty seriously, because he’s a former player, and he explains things thoroughly.
For sure.
I think the best indicators for this sort of thing are the short tid bits and stories that cross the blogs of the media that works in the facility and/or around the team. I also take writers like Matt Bowen pretty seriously, because he’s a former player, and he explains things thoroughly.
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How many screen name you got?
StephanL and Wiedman that we know of now! Can’t have a fair bet w/ someone w/ multiple screen names! LOL
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by Prince Fielder is Skinny on Feb 21, 2011 11:20 PM CST up reply actions
I was clearly joking about his multiple posts
Though I have a suspicion that your account is a joke by some other member of this site, because you are too weird to be real.
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calling names again?
Only a feable mind that cannot come up w/ a suitable response resorts to name calling or insulting others!!
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Wow
I’m having trouble deciding what name I called you. Is it “weird”? Is that what got your panties in a bunch? When people call me weird, I take it as a badge of honor.
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Clearly
The one w/ their panties in a bunch is you, since you tell me to F off and go on a rant all over a little sarcasm! Get over yourself!
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Enough. Both of you.
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by texwestern on Feb 22, 2011 7:15 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Nah, just enough by Stroh
How many times does he have to bait somebody into sinking to his level before he gets booted from this site?
by Curly Lambeau on Feb 22, 2011 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
Didn't bait him.
Made a little sarcastic comment and he went OFF!!! Hardly what I would call baiting him…
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Certainly I was the only one engaging in that...
So you were TRYING to be an Ass?!!
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they also loved Giacommi
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And another team loved Breno enough to sign him away from us
by PackApologist on Feb 21, 2011 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
They also loved Allen Barbre
They used to talk up his athleticism every chance they got.
Oh well. They’re coaches. They do coach speak. It just means you can only judge by what you see on the field.
by Curly Lambeau on Feb 22, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, but it does seem like McCarthy does quite a bit of it. I swear we always have a couple of unknown guys who are really going to make an impact in the coming season by his accounts.
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by packallday555 on Feb 22, 2011 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
Nick McDonald
That glass is flowing over!
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THE BEARS STILL SUCK!
I read that too. They also mentioned Gordy as being a promising prospect too.
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by packallday555 on Feb 21, 2011 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
OG & OT
I think TJ Lang gets a lot of credit when he steps in at OT because he doesn’t suck as bad as everyone else. He’s not good, but he’s not bad either. He just steps in and does alright. I was concerned there for a while during the NFC Championship. Peppers was getting pressure on Rodgers by bullying Lang around, but Lang still put up a fight unlike Allen “the revolving door” Barbre last year. My take is this: start Lang at LG. I think that’s where his highest potential sits, based more on a hunch then observation though. If OG John Moffit lands in our laps in the 3rd Round though, I’d be thrilled. Having Lang, Sitton, and Moffit would provide TREMENDOUS depth at OG and the team very well could try training a guy like Moffit to be our future Center after Wells is long gone.
I’m definitely high on Marshall Newhouse. Like mentioned above, it’s his massive size and wing span that makes him an intriguing prospect. One thing about Newhouse is that he’s a better pass blocker than run blocker. So Newhouse could be our future LT, while Bulaga stays at RT. Unless the team goes down an untraditional way of thought, where our better run blocker in Bulaga goes to LT and our better pass blocker in Newhouse goes to RT. That’s all assuming Newhouse does reach his full potential as a pass blocker and Bulaga doesn’t progress on blocking the better speed rushers in the league.
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There's so much wrong with this comment
First of all, John Moffit’s grade is a high 2nd by just about anyone. If he’s going to be a Packer, it’s at 32 overall. Additionaly, no one projects him as a center and he’ll be 28 by the time Wells is out of the picture. Second of all, you’re criticizing TJ Lang, a future OG or RT, for getting beat by Julius Peppers in his first playoff game playing LT, stepping into the position in the middle of the game? Is this some kind of alternate reality where every player good enough to make an NFL roster is supposed to be Walter Jones? I’m sorry if this comes off as rude, but those two comments were just wrong on so many levels and I couldn’t let them go uncontested.
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by Kevin McCauley on Feb 21, 2011 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
Moffitt
Is widely considered a late 2nd/3rd rd pick from what I’ve read! Nothing near the top of the 2nd! Lang is good, but I agree w/ Jabooty that he gets alot more credit than he should in reality! I like him and expect him to become a starter, but where and when that happens is up for debate… That also tells me that he has to unseat someone to get a job and he hasn’t come close to doing so yet! Thats the truth…
McDonald is a wildcard… I really lilke him as a LG or possibly C in the not too distant future and wouldn’t be surprised if he beat out Lang if they were in competition at LG! Even if he doesn’t I can see him supplanting Wells in 2 years! His toughness and tenacity are his best attributes and he is athletic enough and smart enough to make the OL calls! Just my opinion tho…
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He gets more credit than he deserves?
Moffitt was an All-American for a reason: he was extremely good at what he did.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 21, 2011 7:04 PM CST up reply actions
That was about Lang!
Moffitt is a really good OG and justly deserved to be an All American… that doesnt change the fact that what I’ve read has him as a late 2nd/3rd round pick!
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Being a collegiate All-American does not automatically translate into being a competent pro. That being said, I do like Moffitt and i would very much like us to get him. Just not with our 1st pick.
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by juggernaut400 on Feb 22, 2011 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
Probably
but if we don’t draft him in the 2nd round, he’s almost certainly going in the 3rd. I don’t see him sliding that far from his projected spot. Even more importantly, he’s a better blocker all-around than the last Wisconsin OG to get drafted (Urbik).
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 22, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
Kevin & Obrien
He was referring to Lang in the “credit” regard, not Moffitt. Like Stroh said, he projects as a late 2nd to 3rd Round Prospect. I haven’t seen him any higher.
In regards to Kevin, there isn’t so much wrong with the comments. Lang was not beat by just Peppers, he was also having trouble with Allen. Certainly, those are 2 of the better DE’s in the league and at least Lang put up a fight. Yes, he does tend to get a lot of credit from us. He has stepped in to help this team when we needed him, but he hasn’t taken over the starting job yet either. The point was his ceiling is much higher as the LG. Also, I never specified how long Wells will be around. I said it’s a possible move to train Moffitt if we get him. Why? Because I have seen a couple reports indicate that he has the ability to be a Center. Certainly not a lot, but I have come across them. I’m looking at this from a talent standpoint. Wells is an average blocker going on the wrong side of 30. How much longer will he last? IDK, and neither does anyone else here. All I know is Wells does a good job calling the protection, but he’s nothing special as a blocker. Training somebody under Wells with a higher ceiling is not exactly a bad idea. I simply threw out an idea in preparing for our future after Scott Wells.
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We could probably get Moffitt at #64.
Most mocks have him in the 50-80 overall range.
I gots to put the team on my back, doo.
by BlackPack-fan on Feb 21, 2011 6:32 PM CST up reply actions
Totally agree on the TJ Lang comment. I think he’s definitely shown more then just being a so-so player. He struggled at LT but that’s not going to be his position in the run long. When he moved over to RT last season, he did a really good job imo. Some mistakes here and there but really — and I might get ripped for this — I think he played right up close to the level that Buluga played at this season. He proved to be a good run blocker, and decent in protection. Like Buluga, he seemed to struggle to a degree with the good speed rushers but it’s a learning experience for OT in their first year. They’re facing guys that are the best of the best, and the only way to improve is to continue to play and learn.
I think Lang could end up being a very good LG or good RT.
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by packallday555 on Feb 21, 2011 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
BTW- I do think Moffit drops. Too be honest, he really didn’t impress me all that much in the Senior Bowl. I thought he was pretty so-so. He’ll have to have a really good showing at the combine to jump back up to a high 2nd rounder.
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by packallday555 on Feb 21, 2011 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
"The sky won't fall if the Packers don't get better on the o-line"
But it might if they get worse. Lose Tauscher, possibly Cliffy (even if he comes back, he is likely to not hold up all year, though I hope he does) and Colledge. Bulaga has done fine for Tausch and should continue to improve but they may be a bit shorter on experience/depth this coming year, or shortly into it.
by PhoenicianPakFan on Feb 22, 2011 1:56 AM CST reply actions
Ahem.
Unless T.J. Lang’s mom reads this site, there isn’t a bigger Lang fan on Acme Packing Company than yours truly.
Who has two thumbs and has a TJ Lang jersey?
this guy
Who shares his last name?
this guy
Which team won 6 straight must-win games including a superbowl since I started wearing my TJ Lang jersey?
…ok well that was the Packers but you get my point. I rep Lang hard, son.
Ha ha, that's great
You had to get it custom-made, right? No way you bought that off the shelf.
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