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Examining the 2011 Packers: Special Teams

Any excuse is a good excuse to post another goofy picture of Tim Masthay. (Photo by Ronald Martinez/Getty Images)

It's time to continue our look through the Packers' roster for the 2011 season. Kevin recently examined the Offensive Line, but in part 6 of our series on the Packers' roster, I'll take a look at the special teams. I'll break down each of the three true "specialists" before diving into the return and coverage units as a whole. I won't break down specific players on those units, as their individual contributions will be examined when they're discussed at their normal position.

In any case, 2010 showed a slight improvement in the Packers' overall special teams according to Football Outsiders. Their stats showed the Green and Gold up from last in the NFL in 2009 to 27th this season. However, I personally credit that entire improvement, small though it may be, to finding a punter who could actually kick the ball reasonably well. Because let's face it, Jeremy Kapinos in 2009 sucked more than Hayden Christensen's acting in the new Star Wars movies.

Specialists: Mason Crosby, Tim Masthay, Brett Goode

Other key special teams players: Jarrett Bush, Korey Hall, Pat LeeTom Crabtree, Brandon Underwood, kick return committee

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K #2 Mason Crosby

Player Progression (progress/stagnate/regress): Stagnate
Team Standing (expanded/same/diminished role): Same role
Likelihood of Long-Term Retention: Average to High

After four years in the NFL, Crosby is pretty much a known quantity. He's got a strong leg on field goals, but doesn't get great distance on kickoffs. He is typically very accurate inside 45 yards, but he can go through stretches where his confidence seems to be challenged (especially from the right hash mark). And while he's shown that he's capable of making difficult kicks, he hasn't had many game-winning opportunities to prove he's a clutch kicker. All this means that there's little change to be expected with Crosby. As the only player on the team at his position (and with no expected challenge to his job) his role can't be more stable. And since he makes roughly 80% of his kicks, don't expect him to be going anywhere. Expect him to re-sign with the Pack for a multi-year deal.

P #8 Tim Masthay

Player Progression: Progress
Team Standing: Same role
Likelihood of Long-Term Retention: Average

As a rookie, Masthay made great strides after struggling through the first few months. Once he found his groove, however, he proved to be a great weapon in the field-position game, helping to nullify great returners like Devin Hester and DeSean Jackson and setting kicks up well with good hangtime and placement so his gunners could down them inside the 20. Despite not having a soul, I think the Packers' resident ginger will continue his progression and his leg strength will improve with a full off-season workout schedule.

The only reason I chose "Average" for his long-term retention is because I generally proceed under the impression that young punters tend to be inconsistent. Too many bad punters have come through Green Bay in recent years, and if Masthay regresses, he could easily be just another name on the list. I do think he'll continue to improve, but I'm just hedging my bets. In any case, he will have the opportunity in 2011 to prove that he deserves to be a Packer for a long time.

LS #61 Brett Goode

Player Progression: Stagnate
Team Standing: Same role
Likelihood of Long-Term Retention: High

There's no glamour in being a long-snapper. You're asked to do one thing and do it well. Snap the ball accurately every time and you're invisible...screw up and you're a pariah, plus you'll probably get cut by Tuesday. To make a long story short, Brett Goode hasn't screwed up. If you remember the long, successful career of Rob Davis, you know that the Packers don't like to change their long-snappers. Keep up the goode work, Brett. (And feel free to smack me for that awful pun.)

Coverage

Progression: Stagnate

According to Football Outsiders' analysis, the Packers' punting coverage was actually fairly average, while the kick coverage was rough. This mirrors my personal impression of those units. Jarrett Bush is a great gunner on the punt team, and helped to down a number of kicks inside the 10. The only return touchdown in the regular season was a punt return by Devin Hester in week 3, before Masthay hit his stride. With the seemingly high number of big returns allowed on kickoffs, the Packers allowed no TD returns during the regular season, though they did give up one in the divisional game to Eric Weems of the Falcons. But really, all you need to know about the kickoff coverage this year can be summed up by mentioning one guy: Dan Connolly, offensive lineman, New England Patriots.

While the punt coverage was acceptable in my eyes, I pray the kickoff coverage improves. Unfortunately, improvement in talent on a kick coverage team isn't nearly as obvious as improvement in talent at other positions or units. A new face on the special teams coaching staff might help, but with the struggles of the past several years, I'm not holding my breath.

Returners

Progression: Progress

Thought the kick coverage was bad? Let's turn to kick returns. Pat Lee, Jordy Nelson, Sam Shields, and James Starks were all used at one point or another. Outsiders shows only four teams worse than the Packers in kickoff returns, as they averaged only 20.1 yards per return in the regular season, and an abysmal 15.5 yards per return in the playoffs.

When returning punts, Tramon Williams was solid if unspectacular, but I imagine most of us would rather see him playing strictly cornerback from now on. Who will be returning for the Packers in 2011 is very much a question mark, much as it has been since the great Allen Rossum left for Atlanta in the early 2000's. Who knows, maybe Shields will work on fielding kicks in the offseason and cure his fumbleitis - though that's wishful thinking on my part. Most of us, myself included, expect Ted Thompson to find a prospect in this year's draft to help with the return game. Late targets could include Jeff Maehl of Oregon or Jeremy Kerley of (excuse me while I vomit) TCU. But I guess that the return game will progress if only because it can't get worse.

As for the unit as a whole, we agree that it's an important area for the offseason. Re-signing Crosby should be a priority, as should finding someone with return skills. Dismissing Curtis Fuller from the coaching staff is an indication that there may be some extra focus put into this phase of the game this season.

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I'd like Kerley

As much as I hate him for what TCU did to UW, the NFL’s a new page. He’s a great return man, and we really need one of those…

"They’re good players. They’re basically all the same guy, except for Jordy Nelson is Caucasian."

--Ryan Clark, Pittsburgh S, on the Green Bay receivers

by Kuhl on Feb 24, 2011 12:14 PM CST reply actions  

I said "important" just because we, um, y'know, like, won the Super Bowl and stuff

…so, how can having good STs be “extremely important” if we won it all with awful STs?

That said, we were real, real bad. This was a great job of outlining the lowlights of the season. That Connoly return… ouch. How effing bad do you have to be to let that happen! The guy’s moving at 1.87 mph and nobody can bring him down… zoinks.

Liked the Hayden Christensen comparison, not just for the comedy of it, but also because he’s been good in other stuff, which tells you that he wasn’t the problem in the Star Wars movies. In the same way, Kapinos did okay with the Steelers. …not great, but not just-kill-me-now bad like he was for us. Clearly, coaching was a big part of the problem there.

But, hey, if Jarrett Bush can improve, then hope springs eternal for everyone. …except George Lucas perhaps. It’s just time to cut the cord with him. …and, really, he’s always been bad. Watch that scene again where Han and Leia are on the bridge in the Ewok villiage in “Jedi”… It’s like something out of a high school musical. And I’m talkin’ a small high school. There’s two or three scenes like that in pretty much every movie. (with the possible exception of “Empire”)

by Curly Lambeau on Feb 24, 2011 12:35 PM CST reply actions  

...and speaking of movies about aliens...

That picture of Tim Masthay looks like something out of “I Am Number Four.” Are his hands luminous?

by Curly Lambeau on Feb 24, 2011 12:40 PM CST up reply actions  

You interpreted the Hayden Christensen comparison perfectly.

Plus, the dialogue Lucas writes has always been awful. Hell, the best line of the original trilogy was ad-libbed!

“I love you.”

“…I know.”

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by texwestern on Feb 24, 2011 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

What has Hayden Christenson been good in???

Did you see Awake and Jumper????

"They’re good players. They’re basically all the same guy, except for Jordy Nelson is Caucasian."

--Ryan Clark, Pittsburgh S, on the Green Bay receivers

by Kuhl on Feb 24, 2011 11:39 PM CST up reply actions  

He didn't suck in Shattered Glass or Life as a House

And “not sucking,” when compared to the Star Wars performances, is thus good.

by osc630 on Feb 25, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

He DOES have the expressive range of a house...

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by GoGregGo on Feb 25, 2011 3:35 PM CST up reply actions   3 recs

Brilliant. Simply brilliant, sir.

"Career highlights? I had two. I got an intentional walk from Sandy Koufax and I got out of a rundown against the Mets." - Bob Uecker

by texwestern on Feb 25, 2011 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Never saw either of those

Every movie I’ve seen has led me to think that he’s the worst actor of all time.

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--Ryan Clark, Pittsburgh S, on the Green Bay receivers

by Kuhl on Feb 25, 2011 7:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Though we WERE one ST error away from losing that game! :-) We had a GREAT stretch in the playoffs though which gives me a little more faith going into next year. Hopefully we can have a much less injury riddled season and see some growth in this unit for once.

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by TrevorR on Feb 25, 2011 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

They only not awful part of our ST in the playoffs was our punt coverage

Which was mostly Masthay and some Bush. Slocumb is an awful ST coach and he made no progress over 2 years even being mostly healthy the first year. We need a better ST coach.

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 25, 2011 2:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

oo

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by espnsucks on Feb 24, 2011 12:56 PM CST reply actions  

Really not a Crosby fan..

but can’t really see them drafting a kicker. Maybe a reliable vet would be available in free agent market..

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by White92 on Feb 24, 2011 12:58 PM CST reply actions  

I think they’re definitely important. I mean, I think one could argue that we lost the Falcons, Dolphins, and Bears (in part) because of them. I think the Patriots game could be thrown in there as well. Do you they get that 7 points if we don’t give up a return to our 4 yard line? I’d argue that based on the way our defense was playing them, that we don’t but obviously nobody will ever know.

I know the argument will be we won the SB with the worst special teams unit in the league. This is true but at the same time, we easily could have been 13-3 or 14-2 going into the playoffs as opposed to 10-6. We ended up just sneaking into the playoffs so all was well but can you imagine if we had missed making it by a game? How shitty would that have been? It’s important to get all the wins you can, and now so more so than ever with a lot of the NFC teams either improving (Buccaneers, Rams) or already pretty solid and capable of contending for the playoffs (Eagles, Giants, Cowboys, Saints, Falcons, Bears).

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Feb 24, 2011 1:17 PM CST reply actions  

If we missed the playoffs this last year

we’d have DESERVED to miss the playoffs.

The Packers didn’t, though. They persevered. And THEY’RE STILL THE CHAMPS.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 24, 2011 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I am with you. Sure we won the SB but the league is going to have a HUGE target on our chests and they KNOW our ST is crap so they’ll be attacking us there as much as they can. Its vital to see improvement in this area so we don’t have to rely on so many close games all the time!

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by TrevorR on Feb 25, 2011 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it will improve just with the starters coming off IR in 2011.

Which will, in turn, return the backups to their spots on special teams. I’ll give Slocum a shot next year with the guys he had originally planned on having on ST in 2010, instead of all the 3rd stringers he had to run out there.

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by mike_o on Feb 24, 2011 1:22 PM CST reply actions  

This is an excellent point.

"Career highlights? I had two. I got an intentional walk from Sandy Koufax and I got out of a rundown against the Mets." - Bob Uecker

by texwestern on Feb 24, 2011 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Partof the coach's job is to handle things when they don't go according to plan

Also look how bad Quinn Johnson looked last year. He didn’t come on when people got hurt, he was poorly coached by Slocumb from the start and he was possibly our worst ST player. Yes, the injuries made things hard but hard job or not Slocumb is bad at it to the point of needing replacement

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 24, 2011 3:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

That is all true.

But I still like Big Q. When he blows somebody up, he blows ‘em UP. None o’this “secure and sustain an effective block so that the play can be properly executed” stuff. No, it’s… WHAMMY!!

by Curly Lambeau on Feb 24, 2011 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh I do too

I’m just saying Slocinb has him poorly coached

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 25, 2011 11:07 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

*Slocumb

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 25, 2011 11:08 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Slocinb?

HAHAHAH ….aaaah.

Awesome. Sounds like a city in Finland or something, except it would need an umlaut.

by Curly Lambeau on Feb 25, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

This is why I say he should only get 1 more year.

If he continues to suck with the injured guys back, then it’s time to pack his bags.

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by mike_o on Feb 24, 2011 5:33 PM CST up reply actions  

But our special sucked in 2009 too, and 2008. I’m pretty sure I remember Brandon writing an article about our special teams ranking and mentioning that it wasn’t the first time that we’d been ranked as one of the 5 worst special teams units in the league.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Feb 24, 2011 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Good point in theory…but the theory only works if there was proof from the past that those guys were better at ST and really if you look at the previous season they were just as bad then. I’d like to think that they are going to improve but I don’t really see that happening if we just put the same guys out there and suddenly think they are going to do something they haven’t done in the past.

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by TrevorR on Feb 25, 2011 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

True.

But it makes me wonder… what was the last true ‘complete’ team to win a Super Bowl? With offense, defense, and special teams just rolling on all cylinders…

I know this was the case with the last Packer team to win a Super Bowl (XXXI). But did anybody from SBs XXXII to XLIV do it?

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by mike_o on Feb 25, 2011 5:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Kudos to the Pittsburgh mayor or paying up

A lot of guys wouldn’t have, also that seems all in good fun

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 24, 2011 3:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Extremely well said

Watching our kickoff coverage is perhaps the most painful. Either, a) Slocum doesn’t teach lane discipline whatsoever, or b) we have a group of the most undisciplined guys in the league on our coverage unit. I tend to go with option a because almost everyone played special teams at some point in their football career, and the concept of running down in our OWN lane in staying in that lane is just not rocket science or anything. I can’t tell how many times I saw two of our guys running in the same lane, consequently inviting the opposing teams returner to run through the wide open gap that’s left open as a result.

Special teams has been a problem for 3 years now! Maybe if it was one bad year, or possibly two, but three!? I just don’t think there’s any excuse for keeping Slocum at this point. Like I said above, we basically lost 3-4 because of our special teams alone this season and made a couple of other games much closer then they needed to be. It’s time to get Slocum out of here.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Feb 24, 2011 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

San Diego Chargers...

What you said has me worried that even a team as talented as us could lose games (think of ’08) and miss out on the playoffs/home seeding through poor ST. Just look at the Chargers last year, all those top 5 Off. and Def. stats wasted through poor ST at the first half of the year, Without Hesters Punt return we probably win that Chi game, and the Patriots awful return we might win that one also. Yikes.

by ericforeman04 on Feb 24, 2011 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

It wasn't just ST though

SD did NOT value the football. I watched a couple of those early season games, and they just had bone-headed mistakes nearly every drive. Stuff like receivers going down, not getting touched, and leaving the ball on the ground for a fumble. To say that ST cost SD all those games is an over-simplification. They were a poorly coached team.

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by GoGregGo on Feb 25, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed. I remember watching them totally outplay the Patriots but find a way to lose because of stupid, stupid mistakes on offense. I think their coaching is questionable and I just think they’re overrated. Every year their supposed to a Super Bowl favorite and every year it’s the same thing.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Feb 25, 2011 7:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Tramon and Sam's mistakes are Slocum's fault?

Shawn’s not the smartest guy in the world, but those mistakes in the Super Bowl are stupid mental errors by the players, not the coach. NO ONE tells a guy to hover over a football like Tramon did or to Sam to run into the return man. With that said, Tramon Williams has no business being a return man; why risk injury to your #1B/#2 corner?

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by mike_o on Feb 24, 2011 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Except Tramon hovered over the ball multiple times this season. Sometimes even trying to be sneaky or tricky and pick it up. One would think that a coach would tell his player not to do that but the fact that he kept doing it, and kept getting put back there makes me think Slocum just never said anything to him about it.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Feb 24, 2011 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Nope those things aren’t his fault but there were plenty of things done poorly over and over that eventually have to be traced back to the coach.

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by TrevorR on Feb 25, 2011 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Without a doubt their mistakes are his fault

It’s a completely coachable mindset for special teams players who’ve been playing special teams all year (Williams and Shields). They should be trained like dogs relative to the very simple scenarios mentioned from the Super Bowl.

“Hey idiots, if you’re blocking for a returner, get the hell away from him when he’s trying to catch the ball, NO exceptions.” If you get beaten by your man, don’t hold him, don’t run with him into your returner. He has to let your returner catch the ball, in this scenario, let him go and take the fair catch. It’s not difficult.

“If a punt is rolling dead and opponents are near it, you shouldn’t be anywhere near the football, no good can come from it.” This should absolutely be second nature for a player playing in his 20th game of the season at the same position. We’re not the Bears, our offense can move the ball just fine. There’s no need for an added boost from special teams.

From Bob McGinn’s year-end review: “They trimmed their horrendous penalty total of 32 in 17 games to 22 in 20 games.” That means once a game, we’re guaranteed a special teams penalty. That’s pretty pathetic considering the special teams unit is on the field but for about 10 plays a game. Also, "they ranked 31st in opponents’ starting position (29.8). "

With a deep roster talented enough to win the Super Bowl, the lack of discipline and overall failure of the special teams both this year and last ought to be damning enough to shake up things just a bit, yes?

by nyrfan28 on Feb 25, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

If I remember correctly in the Eagles game we lost a ball on a punt

And I think it was Troy Aikman who spoke to the same thought I had, why was Boone yelling"fire"?
We did this in high school, if Slocumb can’t coach better than the coaches of my 1-9 high school football team then we don’t need him

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 25, 2011 3:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Could we trade for Brandon Tate?

That would resolve our receiver issue and bring in a pure kick returner.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 24, 2011 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Oooh I’d love to see that. I like that kid.

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by TrevorR on Feb 25, 2011 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Tate

I don’t like him at all… I think he is nothing but a deep guy that can run the top end of the route tree, but is horrible on the underneath stuff that all our WR excel at!

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by Strohman on Feb 25, 2011 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice South Park ref!

He may be a “daywalker”? it is hard to tell. In fact, as Cartman would concede, gingers actually have souls…
nice article. well written.

by Jeigh AK on Feb 24, 2011 5:41 PM CST reply actions  

Tyrod Taylor

we can get Tyrod Taylor in the 6 RD in draft he can be returner

by rayden1212 on Feb 24, 2011 7:07 PM CST reply actions  

Position?

And what position is he going to play? Cuz its pretty clear by now that Thompson isn’t going to draft a return specialist only! And Taylor has no return experience whatsoever… He might be good at it, but you can’t say for sure and he plans to be a QB, not a WR!

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by Strohman on Feb 24, 2011 7:25 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

Hey I love me some Badgers to… But your just too much of a Badgers homer!! God bless you…

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by Strohman on Feb 24, 2011 11:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I just responded to an inane comment with one of my own.

Gilreath’s almost definitely a UDFA pickup. Could be a good one, but still a UDFA pickup.

Taylor as WR, or KR? No. Just no. He’s not the second coming of Josh Cribbs…

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 24, 2011 11:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd be all for grabbing Gilreath as a UDFA...

if someone could finally make him shake his “happy feet” syndrome. In his last two years, that guy ran more East-West before finally cutting upfield than anyone I’ve ever seen in the college game. I think he was really overthinking his returns…IMO, he was better in his freshman/sophomore year when he just committed to a lane and let his athleticism do the job.

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by texwestern on Feb 25, 2011 8:03 AM CST up reply actions  

KR, definitely.

I have too many memories of Gilreath’s indecisiveness on punt returns…

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 25, 2011 8:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Because let’s face it, Jeremy Kapinos in 2009 sucked more than Hayden Christensen’s acting in the new Star Wars movies.

YOU TAKE THAT BACK.

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by Mitchell Maurer on Feb 24, 2011 7:26 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

LOL!!!!

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by TrevorR on Feb 25, 2011 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Rec'd.

Tex, I do love it when you post here.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 24, 2011 9:46 PM CST reply actions  

One last thing to note...

While the Pack’s overall ST rankings jumped from 32nd to 27th this year, the punting was a HUGE improvement, going from 16.2 yards below the league average to 4.1 yards above average. It just goes to show how truly blowfully bad Kapinos was in 09.

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by texwestern on Feb 25, 2011 8:26 AM CST reply actions  

Kapinos just can't win, can he?

On this year’s Super Bowl loser, on last year’s WC loss…

What a difference Masthay makes.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 25, 2011 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

So we lost a bunch of our ST unit to injury and we actually got BETTER. Interesting. I think a big part of the improvement was our new punter though, you are right on there.

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by TrevorR on Feb 25, 2011 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Going from the worst in a normal year where your FG kicker and punter didn't have a great year

To almost the worst in a year that was pretty rough on some kickers (Jeff Reed) and a couple of teams (what the fuck were the Giants and Chargers doing out there?) while your kicker has a better season and you find a MUCH better punter while all of the coachable things don’t improve is nothing to write better in all caps about

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 25, 2011 3:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

IMO, ST coaching has to be the problem...

Sure, Tramon has absolutely no business returning punts. He has no feel for it, is afraid to catch the ball, doesn’t understand when to call for a fair catch and has no running intincts if he ever catches the ball. If I didn’t see his great play at CB, I’d swear he had no depth perception. Regardless…

….there are just too many other ST issues. Too many blocks in the back, too many blown lane assignments, too many missed blocks, too many etc. Either every member of the ST are morons and can not understand the instructions from the coaching staff, or the coaching staff is not teaching ST play/strategy properly. I do not believe the ST players are morons, that leaves the coaching staff.

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