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Moving The Kickoff From The 30 To The 35 Yard Line Helps The Packers

It really surprises me that the NFL is considering moving the kickoff from the 30 to the 35 yard line. As Kevin Seifert points out, it would help the Green Bay Packers and their awful kick coverage unit. But I don't expect the competition committee is intentionally looking for ways to help the Packers out.

Aaron Schatz says the primary goal is to reduce injuries. But "it would be a huge transformation":

This move would also mean that kickoffs in general would become more like punts, with kickers practicing more pop-up style kicks in hopes of pinning the other team behind the 25 without allowing a long return

So fewer chances for KR Eric Weems and Patriots OL Dan Connolly from torching their lousy kick coverage. And it doesn't matter that WR Jordy Nelson rarely breaks a big return because that just makes him average.

What do you think? Would it be OK to see such a major change knowing it makes the game a lot safer?

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Would it be ok to make such a major change knowing it makes the game a lot safer?

No.

Next question.

Seriously, I’m not even sure I agree with the premise of that question. I haven’t done statistical analysis of concussions and other injuries suffered by NFL players, but I bet Kickoff plays, by percentage, aren’t any more likely to result in a concussion or other serious injury than any other play.

But, even if I assume the premise of the question is correct, is that the standard we’re going to apply for making changes? Because if it is, they can take off the pads and helmets and put on flags any time now. That would make the game a lot safer too. Oh, and they should do away with the ridiculous bullshit that is the “going to the ground” rule on receptions, because right now DBs have an incentive to hit a WR falling down, or who’s already on the ground and not down by contact, as hard as they ever loving can in the hopes of knocking the ball loose and turning an obvious completion into a technical incompletion. That would make the game a lot safer too.

As far as I’m concerned, the entire competition committee needs to be fired from that job immediately. They’ve over-thought this stuff so much that their heads have officially disappeared up their own asses and it’s time to reapply some common sense to these decisions.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 18, 2011 5:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed

If the competition committee wanted to make the game safer they would mandate newer helmets that reduce the risk of concussions.

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by pjpaulus on Mar 18, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Disagree

First, the committee does seem to think (and I gather this is from data, not just guessing) that injuries on KOs are a big deal.

Second, the research into helmet technology is ongoing. If there were a safer helmet, they’d be using it.

Didn’t the KO spot used to be the 35, maybe 20 years ago? It was still football. The jag about how any nod toward safety is a slippery slope to skirts and flags and tiddly-winks is a red herring. It’s a ridiculous counterargument.

To me, the bigger question is whether it would have the intended effect. I think Brandon’s right that moving the line up will lead to more “pop-up” kicks as the kicking team tries to pin the receiving team back. With the ball taking longer to come down and the coverage team 5 yards closer AND no option to let the ball go (since KOs are live balls), this could actually INCREASE injuries. If the net result is lots of fair catches at the 10 or 15 to avoid death, trust me, they’ll switch the rule back.

by LA Cheese on Mar 18, 2011 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

There are safer helmets...

And players are not using it

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by Chief Oshkosh on Mar 18, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, there are safer helmets.

Rodgers could have worn the concussion helmet after concussion #1 and possibly avoided concussion #2. It seems to me that most players don’t want to wear these helmets because they are either uncomfortable or don’t look as cool as the helmets they are wearing. To me, if the NFL wants to these guys to wear the safer helmets, they will have to force them. It’s kind of like a motorcycle helmet law, you can recommend helmets until you’re blue in the face but until you make it a rule, people still have the choice. If the players are aware of wearing an unsafe helmet, which they are, then it’s their choice to take the risk of having mush brain when they leave the league.

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by Prince Fielder is Skinny on Mar 19, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Injury rules

If I were the owners I wouldn’t change any rules to make the game safer until the players show they want more protection! Rodgers just switched helmets to one that helps prevent concussions, Why aren’t all players chosing this helmet? What about pads for the hips, thigh and knees? Whens the last time anyone other than a RB even used those pads? They NEVER do… How about shoulder pads? We have OL and DL playing w/ shoulder pads that are made for QB’s!!! When the players start taking their own safety seriously then I will too!! But for now, the players give it lip service while ignoring all the other safety possibilities… Why should the NFL care about player safety when the players themselves clearly don’t?!!

I also agree w/ the premise that changing the KO to the 35 and moving touchbacks to the 25 will lead to alot more pooch kicks to force returners to catch the ball and return it or fair catch it… Fair catches aren’t going to go up, so all its going to do is lead to more returns, IMO! And thats the exact opposite of what the NFL is trying to accomplish!!

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by Strohman on Mar 18, 2011 6:56 PM CDT reply actions  

If they wanted a safer game

They should actually teach the players to tackle properly. I play rugby in college, and the only pads you can wear are a scrum cap and 2cm or less shoulder protection. That’s it. Now in rugby you have to to actually tackle the correct way, and having less pads makes people think more about how they tackle and makes them more conscious about throwing their body around.

by Shoes31 on Mar 18, 2011 10:00 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't mind moving the kickoff if they want more touchbacks.....

but don’t change the damn spot of the touchback on kickoffs and make it different than that of punts. Thats annoying because its needlessly more confusing and complicated. I always look at these rule changes and think, “how would I rationally explain this to someone who is just learning football?” and usually I feel the simpler, the better. Hell I think they should allow you to kick the ball out of bounds on kickoffs and get it at the spot where it went out like punts! But that would result in less offense, not more, and the entire underlying theory behind rule changes is that “more offense is better, more points per game are better” to attract fans.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 19, 2011 2:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Um, Patrick Mannelly is a Chicago Bear.

The Patriot OL who went to town on our kick coverage was Dan Connolly.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 19, 2011 11:30 PM CDT reply actions  

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 20, 2011 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I meant shameless.

Whoops.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 20, 2011 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

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