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The Official Hategame.

So, I was over at Pride of Detroit, and they had a game about hating on other teams. It's part of a series of threads on SBN that I think started on Music City Miracles. Anyway, here's the gist of it:

Every other NFL team starts with 32 points. Every day (day being a calendar day starting at midnight Central time) you have two actions. An action being the ability to take a point away from a team (a kill) or add a point to a team (a save). These actions can both be on the same team (i.e.: you can take two points away [double kill] from the Vikings in a single day). Once a team reaches zero, they get moved to the graveyard, and are next on the list of Packer fans hated teams (and can no longer be voted up or down).

 

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Star-divide

 

 

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Updated through: Zundar on Mar 11, 2011 12:05 PM CST


Cle Browns: 34
KC Chiefs: 34
Buf Bills: 33
Hou Texans: 33
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Jac Jaguars: 32
NO Saints
:
32
SF 49ers: 32
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Car Panthers: 30
Pit Steelers: 30
StL Rams: 30
Ari Cardinals: 29
Atl Falcons: 29
Det Lions: 29
SD Chargers: 29
Bal Ravens: 28
Mia Dolphins: 28
Oak Raiders: 28
Ten Titans: 28
Cin Bengals: 27
Sea Seahawks: 27
Ind Colts: 20
Was Redskins: 17
NY Jets: 16
NY Giants: 9
TB Buccaneers: 9

Graveyard:
1. Min Vikings: Officially killed by Clutch16 34 hours & 32 minutes into competition.
2. Chi Bears: Officially killed by wibrownguy 3 days & 8 minutes into competition.
3. Dal Cowboys: Officially killed by I voted for Kodos 6 minutes short of 5 days into competition.
4. NE Patriots:
Officially killed by Wiedmann 5 days & 17 minutes into competition.
5. Den Broncos: Officially killed by Zundar 6 days, 1 hour & 36 minutes into competition.
6. Phi Eagles: Officially killed by wibrownguy 8 days, 3 hours & 21 minutes into competition.

 

A few rules:

1. True Packer fans only. If you're a Seahawks fan who has an affinity for the Pack, that's nice, but this should be restricted to primary fandom only. Each SBNation site should have one of these going (at least that's the plan), so hate on the one of your respective team. If there's not one on their site, start one!
2. Two actions per calendar day. Please police yourself. I'll try to catch people who do, but I'd really like to not have to do that. I know we all got hate, but release it in a cathartic way every 24 hours.
3. I would prefer that the primary (non-indented) posts would be votes. It will be much easier to tally votes this way. Replies of +1 are ambiguous (do you just agree, or is that counted as your vote?)

Here are the other sites that have started similar threads:

Music City Miracles Most & Least Hated Teams
Pride of Detroit's Most & Least Hated Teams
Big Blue View's Most & Least Hated Teams

Hogs Haven's Most & Least Hated Teams

BTSC's Most Hated Teams

Pats Pulpit's Most & Least Hated Teams
Bleeding Green Nation's The Hate Game
Revenge of the Birds' NFL Destruct/Construct Fan Game

Niners Nation's Let's play a hate game

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Kill Patriots x2

So, now they have 30 points. You get it, right?

13.

by Wiedmann on Mar 2, 2011 12:10 AM CST reply actions  

Your hatred has made you powerful.

Now…fulfill your destiny and take your father’s place at my side!

Editor at BT Powerhouse, a Big Ten Basketball blog.
Author at Acme Packing Company, a Green Bay Packers blog

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 6, 2011 11:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Min Vikings -2

might as well get that fake NFL team out of the way right off the bat

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 2, 2011 12:55 AM CST reply actions  

But the Vikings are such lovable losers

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 2, 2011 1:20 AM CST up reply actions  

But the Vikings are such lovable losers

There. Fixed that for you.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 2, 2011 1:28 AM CST up reply actions   3 recs

okay, okay . . .

I see what your fancy editing skills did there. . . .

Well, let’s see what you can do with THIS!:

But Vikings fans are classy wholesome and closers to Green Bay than furthers!

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 2, 2011 3:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Mkay

Not sure if there is more here or not but just quickly…

But Vikings fans are classy wholesome and closers to Green Bay than furthers!

Not sure what to do with the last two words. =(

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 2, 2011 3:39 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Nailed it

It wasn’t really supposed to make sense, it was a set up to test your humorous editing powers, and you aced the Wonderlic of Humorous Editing.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 2, 2011 11:59 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Lol Gotcha

Just curious if there was something I was supposed to do with “than furthers” at the end. I thought about “haters” but that wouldn’t have been a very nice thing to call GB.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 2, 2011 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll give it a try...
But Vikings fans are classy wholesome and closers to Green Bay than furthers!

by AaronR on Mar 2, 2011 5:35 AM CST up reply actions  

I respectably disagree (for now). Vikings 0

Everyone knows how we feel about them. I’d like to stay neutral for now, and let the rest of the league take ’em down without us.

It will be sweeter gloating that it isn’t just us.

(but I can see them getting the pity vote, for they haven’t accomplished much for anyone to hate on.)

/hate off

by ReadTheFinePrint on Mar 2, 2011 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

If we hate the Vikings the most . . .

Isn’t that giving them exactly what they want? Don’t their fans become even more obnoxious the more they think the world is against them? Don’t feed the beast, I say.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 2, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Those purple uniforms are obnoxious.

And the Riccola horn…

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 2, 2011 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, that would have sucked.

They were too incompetent to have a viable stadium, so they had to use yours.

13.

by Wiedmann on Mar 4, 2011 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Is this done in conjunction with other sites

As far as final tallying goes or is this just run individually on each site to see what each team comes up with.

Also interesting that there is some Lions love. I bet if you do this again in 3 years there isn’t….

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 2, 2011 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

individually on each site.

I’d imagine there will be somebody who does a final aggregate of all the sites’ choices (I will if no one else does).

I don’t know about the Lions. I think they will be good in 3 years, but I don’t know if the hate will increase all that much. Even back when they had Barry Sanders and were good, there wasn’t a whole lot of hate directed at them. Certainly there wouldn’t be people giving them points, but I still bet the Vikings/Bears/Cowboys/Eagles/etc. will go off the board before them.

13.

by Wiedmann on Mar 2, 2011 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Opps. I feel stupid(er)

Misunderstood the rules, though it was SBN wide.

Nevermind. (in best Roseanne Roseannadanna voice)

/reminds self to read more better.
//facepalms and shows himself out

by ReadTheFinePrint on Mar 2, 2011 5:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Emily Litella, not Roseanne...

Right cast member, wrong character.

…sorry. I’ve watched a lot of old school SNL.

"This is a football." "Slow down, coach! You're goin' too fast!"

by Cool Hand on Mar 3, 2011 12:44 AM CST up reply actions  

You're Right.

Good catch.

As a side note, I googled Roseannadanna to check the spelling of her full name, and it returned a bunch of links to old SNL Weekend Update transcripts. They are still hilarious, and a highly recommended read. IMHO, one of the few good things to come out of the ’70s, and proof that humor is possible without expelling bodily fluids. Anyway, It led to a nice trip down memory lane.

Sorry for going off topic, but thanks for the correction.

Now back to the hate..,

/the loss of Gilda Radner was a loss to all of humanity.

by ReadTheFinePrint on Mar 3, 2011 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

I can certainly understand you guys having no love for us

but with the Vikes and Bears sitting right there…kinda hard to waste your points on us. Not too mention the Pats and Cowboys, ugh.

It's turkey, Lions and Macy's. Any other combination is just ludicrous.

by Leonuro on Mar 4, 2011 1:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Vikings -2

We whooped them and Favre 2 this year, so take 2 points a day.

by ShawnH on Mar 2, 2011 1:00 AM CST reply actions  

Chicago Bears -2

Ditka!

Butkus!

Oldest rival in the NFL!

Don’t make me add more exclamation points!!!!! I’m willing to sub-contract out Strohman for more exclamation points if I have to!!!!!

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 2, 2011 1:19 AM CST reply actions  

-1 COWBOYS -1 JETS

I gots to put the team on my back, doo.

by BlackPack-fan on Mar 2, 2011 5:38 AM CST reply actions  

Can I do that?

I gots to put the team on my back, doo.

by BlackPack-fan on Mar 2, 2011 5:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep, that's allowed

You have two points to do with what you wish.

13.

by Wiedmann on Mar 2, 2011 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Good choices

Jerry Jones is worth about 15-20 points all by himself, and Cowboys fans will consume the rest of their points.

As for the Jets: Take that, Rex Ryan! How dare you question the validity of Sir Charles Woodson’s Defensive Player of the Year victory! And enough with the guarantees, you’re not Men’s Wearhouse.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 2, 2011 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha

I gots to put the team on my back, doo.

by BlackPack-fan on Mar 2, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

-2 Bears

Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."

by GoGregGo on Mar 2, 2011 7:22 AM CST reply actions  

An excellent choice

Oldest rivalry in the NFL is also the best because it’s based on mutual animosity. It’s not some sort of hug-fest feel-good rivalry, like the Browns-Bengals, or the Cubs vs. MLB.

Anyone read 1984? Remember the “two-minute hate” where they’d look at pictures of supposed enemies and yell and scream and throw stuff? I do that every day with the Bears. Gotta keep that rivalry fierce. . . .

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 2, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions   4 recs

Wow

Now THERE’s a literary reference I never would have expected to see when I woke up this morning. Have a rec on me, nicely played.

Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."

by GoGregGo on Mar 2, 2011 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Rec

because that post was double-plus good

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 2, 2011 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

-2 Bears

How many times must we take this disgrace
Another Bears fan throwing insults in our face
The Packers are the greatest team to ever play the game
Even if from time to time they’ve been a little lame

How could you ever love a team with Jim McMahon
Not even Porky Pig was as big a ham
They got a reputation that’s mostly based on luck
The Bears…Still…Suck

The Bears still suck, the Bears still suck
The Bears still suck, the Bears still suck
They really really really really really really suck
Yes the Bears…Still…Suck

If you drive to Soldier Field they make you pay a toll
For cripes sake they only won one lousy Super Bowl
They make fun of Wisconsin, but we don’t get upset
Where do you think that they’re all headed every chance they get

We don’t really hold a grudge ‘cause this is all in fun
As far as football rivalries we’re both number one
Still we wouldn’t mind seeing Ditka run over by a truck
’Cause the Bears…Still…Suck

by PackApologist on Mar 2, 2011 7:59 AM CST reply actions   3 recs

AWESOME!
I was singing along in my head. Is that one the Yoopers?

The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010

by TrevorR on Mar 2, 2011 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

The Happy Schnapps Combo

I have the album…..

Hmmmm… just occured to me… could we vote for Ditka?

by The Delivery Guy on Mar 3, 2011 12:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Ditka is the Chicago Bears personified

As a player and a coach I can hate him. We’re talking about a guy that gave Buddy Ryan a d-coordinator position, so blame can also be traced back to him for the Ryan Family coaches.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 3, 2011 12:18 AM CST up reply actions  

-2 Bears

I’m going to school in Indiana right now, and half my college is Bears fans. I actually had a guy talking crap about how good Devin Hester was while we were watching the Super Bowl that GB had beaten CHI to get to.

"They’re good players. They’re basically all the same guy, except for Jordy Nelson is Caucasian."

--Ryan Clark, Pittsburgh S, on the Green Bay receivers

by Kuhl on Mar 2, 2011 9:00 AM CST reply actions  

They can keep Hester...

… we’ll keep collecting the Lombardies.

by The Delivery Guy on Mar 3, 2011 12:16 AM CST up reply actions  

-1 ATL -1 SF

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 2, 2011 10:22 AM CST reply actions  

Reasons

The Falcons because I lived in that city for 17 years and the “fans” cared about the team exactly twice: When they beat the Vikes to go to the SB and when they drafted Vick. Then, of course, I had to hear about Vick beating the Pack in the 2002 playoffs. Ding ’em a point for that BS.

The Niners because their fans still seem to think that the 90s are relevant. They once cheered (lustily) for TO. The contempt I feel for that translates to a quick -1.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 2, 2011 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

-1 Tennessee Titans.

Why? Because Bud Adams is an asshole for taking the Oilers away from Houston and trying to pass them off as the ‘Titans.’ That’s why.

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 2, 2011 10:42 AM CST reply actions  

-1 Seattle Seahawks.

Crybaby quarterback. Need I say more? (Besides the fact that they suck… big time.)

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 2, 2011 10:44 AM CST reply actions  

A Packers fan test

Remembering that 2004 OT coin-flip declaration, the sound clip, and the performance of Al Harris…

I know it’s not fair to judge, but it’s hard to not look at a self-declared Cheesehead the same if they don’t have instant recall of that moment like so many others of us do =(

by pharom on Mar 2, 2011 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

One of NFL Network's Top Ten overtime finishes

NFL recently ran was must have been about the 1,824th version of a Top Ten list show, the top 10 overtime finishes, and that game was on the list for that very reason: Hasselbeck’s declaration and Harris’s return

by wibrownguy on Mar 3, 2011 1:53 AM CST up reply actions  

-2 Vikings.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Mar 2, 2011 11:05 AM CST reply actions  

-1 vikes... -1 baers

w/ #4 retiring its become a draw again!

You've been Stroh'd™!!!

by Strohman on Mar 2, 2011 11:12 AM CST reply actions  

Why I didn't vote for the Bears

It’s really hard for me to “hate” the Bears. When it comes to game day, yeah obviously, but for the other 6 days of a week it’s hard to hate. I want to see them lose, I still gripe about that stupid non-TD TD in the Lions game that, if correctly applied, would have given the Packers #2 seed and had Giants take the #6 seed with the Bears at home… but hate?

The reason it’s hard to say I hate the Bears is because I do appreciate the rivarly, it’s fun, it’s long term, and it’s incredible that the teams have only met in the post season once since the very first non-championship playoff game in NFL history. Two teams who have the longest lasting rivalry in NFL history and we just witnessed the first time* the two teams have both had great years and gotten matched up in a playoff game. That was an incredible feeling, an incredible rush, and taking it all in made it all enjoyable on another level (… especially since the Packers won).

When I think of the Vikings, that’ a team I hate. I would probably be sitting here typing that I hate the Bears if I didn’t have the Vikings to compare against. Thinking of the Vikings makes me realize I don’t hate the Bears because it’s not the same feeling, not even close. I want the Packers to face the Bears, I want the Packers to beat the Bears. On the other hand, I wouldn’t mind if the Packers never played the Vikings ever again.

I like the idea of the NFC North being strong. Losing to the Lions? It sucked, but it meant they’re getting better and maybe I’ll get the chance to feel some pride** when the Packers sweep a division rival, like the same pride I would feel anytime the Packers sweep the Bears. Sweeping the Vikings doesn’t give me pride, it just means I (hopefully) don’t have to hear from that fan base for another year.

And that’s how I feel about the Cowboys too. I think Romo is a nice guy, that story about him helping an elderly couple after flying home from a game is awesome. Romo is like an average guy, he makes mistakes, he slips up, sometimes he’s in over his head. But the rest, Jerry Jones, the attitude, and “America’s Team”? No thanks. I can’t blame a player for where he got drafted or traded to (unless that player did some shenanigans along the way). I don’t look forward to Packers-Cowboys games, even if it’s a coach-firing shut out.

I think that’s a pretty good way to tell if I hate a team.

by pharom on Mar 2, 2011 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

The Vikings are just funny.

Their fans want there to be a really with Green Bay, except… their idea of a rivalry is their team picking up our scraps (Longwell, Sharper, Favre, etc.).

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 2, 2011 12:38 PM CST up reply actions  

D'oh!

*really is supposed to read ‘rivalry’

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 2, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey, if they want to spend another $10 million/season on another linebacker, let them.

And I hope Favre comes back too, so Minnesota’s cap is that much more f**ked up. Less money to re-sign their best receiver and any other good FA.

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 2, 2011 7:59 PM CST up reply actions  

-1 Vikings, -1 Bears.

I don’t think I need to explain myself.

"Career highlights? I had two. I got an intentional walk from Sandy Koufax and I got out of a rundown against the Mets." - Bob Uecker

by texwestern on Mar 2, 2011 11:36 AM CST reply actions  

BTW: I rec'd this post

Both because of the Silky Johnson pic and because it’ll help knock…another FanPost further down the Rec’d list.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 2, 2011 11:49 AM CST reply actions  

I rec'd this post because it's good clean, old-fashioned fun

and because of Silky.

Thanks for putting in all the work Wiedmann!

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 2, 2011 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah...

Silky.

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 2, 2011 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm a mathematician

Counting is not really “work,” especially when I can help spread hate.

13.

by Wiedmann on Mar 3, 2011 6:29 PM CST up reply actions  

+1 Steelers

Taking the high ground here.

A point for a classy organization and great fan base. They were a hellava lot of fun to have around before the SB, and truly honorable in defeat.

by ReadTheFinePrint on Mar 2, 2011 11:51 AM CST reply actions  

Agreed

Though there were a few “How many Lombardis do you have? Cause we have 6, soon to be 7.”-types before the game, overall, they’re pretty classy.

I’d also like to point out that you still have another point to use today. 2 pluses or 2 minuses or 1 of each per day.

Team scores edited & updated through this post.

13.

by Wiedmann on Mar 2, 2011 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

as to the other vote...

It’s difficult to decide who would top the hate list, so I abstained. Plus I’m a little confused about the indenting, and who to agree with. -So much good hate going round.

But, if pressed, I can agree with any of the following:
-1 Patriots: The tuck rule and the phoney wholesomeness they try to portray.
-1 Bears: I grew up in Janesville, where you couldn’t throw a rock without hitting a FIB.
 (and trust me, I tried < bg >).
-1 Cowboys: America’s team my a@@.

So, for this week, put me down for the league darlings Patriots -1, for blatant favoritism above and beyond the obvious.

/will work on perfecting my hate over at KSK, and will get back to you.

by ReadTheFinePrint on Mar 2, 2011 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

+1 Detroit and +1 Buffalo

Because sharing is caring.

"Finished putting together an Excel spreadsheet at work? BELT. Finally managed to open that uncooperative jar of mayonnaise? BELT. We're all champions in our own ways, my friends." - Frank Madden, BrewHoop

by Mitchell Maurer on Mar 2, 2011 12:38 PM CST reply actions  

SOCIALIST.

The Artist Formerly known as Speedingtime/Speedy

by Jacob Grinyer on Mar 2, 2011 5:02 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

If that's true

Then maybe Jay Cutler is a nice guy after all

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 3, 2011 12:14 AM CST up reply actions  

-1 Vikings and -1 Cowboys

I think I’ll start of hating, maybe getting to liking later.

by Zundar on Mar 2, 2011 12:50 PM CST reply actions  

-2 Vikings

I grew up in northern wisconsin with the media out of Duluth. Vikings this, Vikings that. Then there’s that damn horn in the metrodome that blows on any positive yardage… “Two yard run by Adrian Peterson” BaaaWoooooooooooooo

by MisterRok on Mar 2, 2011 1:13 PM CST reply actions  

Every time I play the Vikings in Madden

that damn horn goes off. I can’t think of a more polarizing sound effect in all of sports.

"Finished putting together an Excel spreadsheet at work? BELT. Finally managed to open that uncooperative jar of mayonnaise? BELT. We're all champions in our own ways, my friends." - Frank Madden, BrewHoop

by Mitchell Maurer on Mar 2, 2011 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

That horn is the equivalent of a sheet of stars.

“You completed a pass? Here’s a blue star for you! What’s that? You threw an incompletion instead of an interception? GREEN STAR for you!!”

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 2, 2011 1:48 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Sorry, but I'm not sure what to do

My parents taught me not to hate anyone and my grandpa taught me to hate everyone.

I won’t change my vote for today, if that’s even possible. But I will keep this in mind for tomorrow when I decide who to hate along with the Patriots.

But I will admit to enjoying seeing how fast the Vikings are falling, just like the 2010 season!

by Zundar on Mar 2, 2011 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

You're starting to win me over on the "its better to ignore them than hate them" argument

But they will just whine no matter what because they still see us as their biggest “rival”.

So until the Lions start embarrassing them next year and rubbing their silly purple heads in their own piddle in whatever condemned building it is that they play in, then it probably won’t matter what we think of them.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 2, 2011 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

"It's better to ignore them"

I first developed this argument while reading some of REVENGE4FAVRE’s posts. And I think he’d love it more than anyone else if the Vikings finish first in the hate war.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 2, 2011 11:58 PM CST up reply actions  

The difference between the Bears & the Vikings

The Bears will always be THE rival. This isn’t about rivalries, it’s about hate, and there’s nothing more to hate than the Vikings. The Bears, despite having Jay Cutler as their QB, are still capable of being respected.

13.

by Wiedmann on Mar 2, 2011 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

The Vikings will always be a rival, but

The Bares will always be the arch-rival!

That glass is flowing over!

"It's a great day to be great, baby!"

"Here I am, brain the size of a planet, and they ask me to pick up a piece of paper. You call that job satisfaction? 'Cause, I don't."

THE BEARS STILL SUCK!

by NorthStarr on Mar 6, 2011 7:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd covet Adrian Peterson.

I’d covet him good.

"Finished putting together an Excel spreadsheet at work? BELT. Finally managed to open that uncooperative jar of mayonnaise? BELT. We're all champions in our own ways, my friends." - Frank Madden, BrewHoop

by Mitchell Maurer on Mar 2, 2011 7:28 PM CST up reply actions  

"Purple is for clowns that can't afford red."

I am rec’ing the HELL out of that.

"This is a football." "Slow down, coach! You're goin' too fast!"

by Cool Hand on Mar 3, 2011 12:49 AM CST up reply actions  

-1 Bears, -1 Giants

Editor at BT Powerhouse, a Big Ten Basketball blog.
Author at Acme Packing Company, a Green Bay Packers blog

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 2, 2011 2:37 PM CST reply actions  

Some would say this level of hate is unhealthy

And they can jump off a cliff. I love it!

That horn…….that annoying, f***ing horn. Its not the noise. Its not the idea. Its the fact that, as others have said, it is played every time they don’t trip over their own feet as if mediocrity should be celebrated.

And according to a recent DN post, the new roof on the stadium will actually improve the accoustics therefore making the dome even louder than before. I hope when they test it during a practice that the piped in noise blows out the eardrums of everyone on the staff. The only reason they haven’t been fined/punished for piped in noise is that no self-respecting person wants to go there to conduct an actual investigation.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 2, 2011 8:03 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Haha.

Piped-in noise didn’t save them from Aaron Rodgers and that 31-3 a**-whooping in 2010.

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 2, 2011 8:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Rec'd for quality hate.

Editor at BT Powerhouse, a Big Ten Basketball blog.
Author at Acme Packing Company, a Green Bay Packers blog

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 2, 2011 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Impressive

Nothing else to say, wow

by pharom on Mar 3, 2011 12:16 AM CST up reply actions  

That's some good hate.

But I have to defend “skol” (should have that slash-o thing.) It’s not a made-up word; it’s Danish. But knowing they’re bastardizing my people’s language makes me hate them more.

"This is a football." "Slow down, coach! You're goin' too fast!"

by Cool Hand on Mar 3, 2011 12:52 AM CST up reply actions  

-2 points for Duh Bears

I have nothing against the Bears themselves, but mostly their fans, who are the same as those delusional Cubs fans who even coming off a 40 win season think they’re still World Series bound. Then again, living in Hellannoys, I have a bias.

When life gives ya lemons, shut up and eat your damn lemons.
Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLVI, Guaranteed! - REVENGE4FAVRE

by P-Townfan on Mar 2, 2011 8:31 PM CST reply actions  

lol @ the Cubs.

Man, I hate Soriano. The dude just comes off as obnoxious, and he can’t play defense for squat. I should probably save more of this for the open thread…

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 2, 2011 8:36 PM CST up reply actions  

You can hate in both.

No reason to curtail your hate in this thread.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 2, 2011 8:38 PM CST up reply actions  

In that case...

He swings like a girl, too. And it looks like he’s trying to pose at the back end of it.

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 2, 2011 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm a Cubs fan...

…so I doubt you hate Soriano as much as I do.

"This is a football." "Slow down, coach! You're goin' too fast!"

by Cool Hand on Mar 3, 2011 12:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Oops....

… I should clarify:

You’ve just crushed by dream by putting the Bears under 20pts before the Vikings hit zero.

Booooo.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 2, 2011 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

This is a hatred purity test

We’re going to find out if you hate the Vikings enough to save the Bears two points!

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 3, 2011 12:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Well that may have been true in the past

but Cubs are going to the World Series THIS year for sure!

Wait, what?

But seriously, I hope the Cards screw up the Pujols deal and he goes to the Cubs next year….. I may actually watch them again.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 2, 2011 8:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Fine by me...

… my persistent nightmare is that the Cards will figure out a way to sign Pujols and Fielder will end up in Chicago. Then the Brewers will have to deal with 3 beastly first basemen in their division and be lacking at the position at the same time.

But if the Cards lose Pujols to the Cubs, it’s basically a wash for the Brewers, though they’ll still have to replace Fielder…

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 2, 2011 9:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Every team has a bad century now and then, right? lol

Seriously, Twins fans are almost as bad too. Matter of fact, tomorrow, I’ll give one point away from the Vikings, and one point away from Der Twains too. Can I do that?

When life gives ya lemons, shut up and eat your damn lemons.
Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLVI, Guaranteed! - REVENGE4FAVRE

by P-Townfan on Mar 2, 2011 9:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey Yakof what time is it?

- My college bud Mike, multiple times, at a Twins fan in County Stadium left field blechers who really did look like comedian Yakof Smernoff.

by The Delivery Guy on Mar 3, 2011 12:03 AM CST up reply actions  

-1 Vikings, +1 Browns

Minus cuz well does it need an explaination? Plus cuz we went to the Browns/Packers game in Cleveland right after Model announced the move to Baltimore.

In Packers jerseys with Brown armbands on, we were up the street from the Mistake on the Lake in a bar, drinking waiting for game time. In walks a Packers fan (big guy) with his small girlfriend wearing Bears gear! My buds and I look at each other, stand up in a room full of Browns fans and bust out into The Bears Still Suck Polka. The girl tries to bolt, but the boyfriend stopped her. At the end the Browns fans gave us a standing Ovation.

by The Delivery Guy on Mar 2, 2011 11:19 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Rec

Cause you gotta feel for the poor Browns fans when Modell pulled that rug out from under them.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 2, 2011 11:27 PM CST up reply actions  

As I did for the Colts fans in Baltimore. :(

That glass is flowing over!

"It's a great day to be great, baby!"

"Here I am, brain the size of a planet, and they ask me to pick up a piece of paper. You call that job satisfaction? 'Cause, I don't."

THE BEARS STILL SUCK!

by NorthStarr on Mar 6, 2011 7:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey I'm going to be gone all weekend can I pre-vote?

March 3 Vikes -1, Cowboys +1
             
             -Yes, yes it pains me to no end to give +1 to the freakin’ Boys, but I was down in Texas for a cousin’ s wedding in early Jan…. my other cousins 8 & 4 year old sons said they would put down their Cowboy alledgence and root on our Packers through the playoffs. That night was the ATL game…. result! So +1 for my lil cuzs’ team.

          Also I was in Minneapolis the day Corey Stringer died, I walked outside for a 1/2 block and sweat through my suit so bad it was nearly ruined… that dumb@ss franchise was out practicing in full pads…

March 4 Vikes -1, Chargers -1

            - Nothing about the Chargers per se… I just pretty much despise California in general. Banning Happy Meals, but allowing Pot to be sold in vending machines?? Really California? Really.

                Two words: Love Boat – “An embarrasement on the field, and embarrasement off the field, the Vikings lead the league in all the wrong categories.” -Don Banks, SI.com

March 5 Bears -1, Raiders -1

           - Assuming TSSC has succeeding in driving the Vikes to zero by now, so teeing up da Bears. Swing batter batter….
             Raiders is partially California pile on, partially Al Davis creepitudeyness (is that a word, it is now), but mainly its still questioning why back in the 90s, the NFL for no reason they would explain, gave the Raiders a free draft pick at the start of the 2nd round despite the fact the highest compensatory picks are at the end of the 3rd… then even weirder that the kid they drafted had a heart attack and died before camp started.

Creepitudeyness – adj. – To have the essence or being of Al Davis or Charlie Sheen.

by The Delivery Guy on Mar 3, 2011 12:00 AM CST reply actions  

No pre-votes

You gotta post on the day (seems unfair). Especially since your Bears & Vikings votes might not mean anything as those teams may already be eliminated. If you want to change your vote for Mar 3rd, you’re free to do so. (seriously, do you really want to vote for the Cowboys?)

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by Wiedmann on Mar 3, 2011 12:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy

It’s midnight! I can vote again!

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 3, 2011 12:06 AM CST reply actions  

Bears -2

Got so excited I forgot to vote.

Sorry Ted, it’s just the way I was raised. I understand that the Bears will always be the number one rival, but that doesn’t excuse them from being hateable. [sic]?

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 3, 2011 12:09 AM CST reply actions  

More on the Bears

Dick Butkus is more famous than Ray Nitschke! If the International Criminal Court had any real sway that would be considered a crime against humanity (as would Ditka’s stupid sweaters).
They still talk about the 1985 Bears, and act like they are the consensus Best Team Ever (Best Teams Ever repeat as champs, or maybe even win five NFL championships in a decade). They act like the great Packers teams of the 1960s don’t count, or fail to recognize that the 1997 Packers led the league in scoring offense and scoring defense (something the 1985 Bears couldn’t manage).
Mike Ditka refusing to acknowledge the Majik Man’s 1989 victory over the Bears.
The Bears have more wins in our epic rivalry.
The Bears changed their name from “The Staleys” to “The Bears” in order to ride the coattails of the Chicago Cubs.
George Halas tried to get the Packers’ franchise license revoked.
Jim McMahon wore a Bears jersey to the White House when he “won” a Super Bowl with the Packers as Favre’s backup.
They took a classic, beautiful stadium that was constructed in honor of war veterans and built a spaceship around it.
The whole “steal ex-Packers” bit? Dick Jauron was a coach for the Packers before he became head coach of the Bears.
The "pumped in noise so the other team can’t communicate bit’? In a 1950s game the Bears cut the Packers’ phone lines to the box so their coaches couldn’t communicate.
The Bears have more Hall of Famers than the Packers, despite their comparatively miserable existence.
The “Super Bowl Shuffle”
The humiliation of William “The Refrigerator” Perry’s TD run.
People from Chicago have poor enunciation – it’s “the”, not “duh”.
George Halas put out a bounty on the Packers’ first black player.
Curly Lambeau reportedly wouldn’t let his players smile in the week leading up to a Bears’ game.

And finally, if that’s not enough hateable history, there’s this: Vince Lombardi instructed his players to hate the Bears. Are you going to disagree with Lombardi?

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 3, 2011 12:57 AM CST up reply actions  

The story about Lambeau not letting the players smile is kind of amazing.

"This is a football." "Slow down, coach! You're goin' too fast!"

by Cool Hand on Mar 3, 2011 1:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Think you're right

But the point remains – Please folks, have a sense of history. The last few years is nothing compared to the Long March of History.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 3, 2011 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Vikings -2

Let’s keep it rolling and knockthem out fast. Then we might start giving “props” to the other teams. Personally I would give the Cowboys some +, just for pay back for making them loose thier coach, but sorry Vikings have to go first!

by ShawnH on Mar 3, 2011 12:12 AM CST reply actions  

Vikings -1 / Bears -1

I decided to even out hate for Day 2.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 3, 2011 12:50 AM CST reply actions  

Vikings -2

Suppose you were to make a Venn Diagram of where I went to high school, and the circles were “Vikings Fans” and “Shitheads.” It would basically be one circle. That’s why they get the first -1.

The second -1 is because of Fuad Reveiz. He is my all-time most hated Viking. Eff that guy.

"This is a football." "Slow down, coach! You're goin' too fast!"

by Cool Hand on Mar 3, 2011 12:59 AM CST reply actions  

Try a Venn Diagram near any Bears fans stronghold

And “shithead” will fully intersect with the “Bears fans” circle AND the “illiterate” circle. At least with Vikings fans you can use words, but with Bears fans it’s mostly a series of loud grunts, short grunts, high-pitched grunts, and low-pitched, earthy grunts.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 3, 2011 1:05 AM CST up reply actions  

shrug I grew up in small-town South Dakota (as opposed to big-city South Dakota, because there’s no such thing) where people were big on the Vikings, less big on thinking. It was always “fun” going in on Monday morning, having to hear “we kicked your ass!” a hundred times after yet game where the Vikings couldn’t get into the end zone, but got enough field goals to win (EFF YOU FUAD REVEIZ.)

So, sorry Kodos. As great and mighty as your hate is, you’re not going to draw me to your side.

"This is a football." "Slow down, coach! You're goin' too fast!"

by Cool Hand on Mar 3, 2011 1:16 AM CST reply actions  

-1 Miami, -1 Indianapolis

Miami: Shame on you for not helping Dan Marino get back to another Super Bowl.

Indy: Peyton Manning. ’Nuff said.

I’ll let my APC brethren continue pwning the Viqueens and Bears.

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 3, 2011 1:16 AM CST reply actions  

-1 Vikings, -1 Patriots

Vikings: Duh
Patriots: Bill Belichick seems like the poutiest, whiniest coach in the league. And he’s a cheater.

by wibrownguy on Mar 3, 2011 1:38 AM CST reply actions  

Final update of the night

I assume the hate will continue throughout the night. I won’t vote yet as I’d like to be the one to finish off the ‘queens or Bears, but failing that, I can always vote down the Patriots* later. I think we’re all up to date with the totals as they stand as of this post (if anyone else is keeping score, confirm or correct). I’m a little surprised there’s been no Bronco or Eagle hate yet. Remember, it’s fun to get your shots on the Vikings & Bears, but there’s plenty of other teams to hate out there (19 have yet to been hated on, and 4 of those have even gotten more points!). Let’s get working on chopping the non-World Champions down.

Buf Bills: 33
Cle Browns: 33
Det Lions: 33
Pit Steelers: 33
-———————————-
Ari Cardinals: 32
Bal Ravens: 32
Car Panthers: 32
Cin Bengals: 32
Den Broncos: 32
Hou Texans: 32
Jac Jaguars: 32
KC Chiefs: 32
NO Saints: 32
Oak Raiders: 32
Phi Eagles: 32
SD Chargers: 32
StL Rams: 32
TB Buccaneers: 32
Was Redskins: 32
-—————————————————-
Atl Falcons: 31
Ind Colts: 31
Mia Dolphins: 31
NY Giants: 31
NY Jets: 31
SF 49ers: 31
Sea Seahawks: 31
Ten Titans: 31

Dal Cowboys: 30
NE Patriots: 28
Chi Bears: 15
Min Vikings: 7

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by Wiedmann on Mar 3, 2011 1:56 AM CST reply actions  

Asterisk

Any meaning to the asterisk in your comments about voting down the Patriots?

by wibrownguy on Mar 3, 2011 2:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Just the obvious

I learned that from a Steeler fan in the weeks preceding the SB.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 3, 2011 2:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Learning things from Steelers fans...

Says something, but I can’t figure out the hidden meaning of that statement.

"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West

by insertscreenname on Mar 3, 2011 6:59 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

The asterisk next to the Patriots* is due to Spygate

Ever since then people have been doing that for their Super Bowl wins to show that they may be tainted.

by Zundar on Mar 3, 2011 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Doi!

I guess I should have figured that one out on my own, since it was also my reason for voting against them. I can dress myself!

by wibrownguy on Mar 3, 2011 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Uh, SURE...

No further comment.

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Author at Acme Packing Company, a Green Bay Packers blog

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 3, 2011 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I just dealt with Comedic.Sans, reminding me exactly why I should vote early & often

Patriots* -2

I’ll let someone else have the honor of finishing off the ‘queens. I’ve got my own row to hoe.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 3, 2011 3:30 AM CST reply actions  

+1 Patriots, -1 Giants

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 3, 2011 5:16 AM CST reply actions  

Vikings -2

Its the Vikes. Nuff said.

[img]http://i54.tinypic.com/2rpqi2t.png[/img]

by king.nothing on Mar 3, 2011 6:56 AM CST reply actions  

-1 Cowboys -1 Broncos

Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."

by GoGregGo on Mar 3, 2011 7:24 AM CST reply actions  

When I really sat down and thought about it

I realized, I don’t really hate the Vikings. They’re more like that younger brother of the friend everybody had who was too little to hang out with you guys, but dammit, that didn’t stop him from trying. It’s so pathetic, I can’t really hate on it.

And when thinking about my Bears votes from yesterday, while I don’t like the Bears, it’s more of a respectful hatred than anything else.

No, when I look deep into my soul, there are two teams that make me happy when they lose. The Denver Broncos (GO F**** YOURSELF JOHN ELWAY!! YOU RUINED THE PACKERS BACK-TO-BACK CHAMPIONSHIPS! YOU COULDN’T SMOOTH A SHEET IF YOU HAD A HOT DATE WITH A BABE…. I lost my train of thought) and the Dallas Cowboys (you guys ruined my Packers dreams far too many times in the 90’s for me to EVER forgive you).

Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."

by GoGregGo on Mar 3, 2011 7:29 AM CST up reply actions  

And Romo sucks.

Elite QB, my a**.

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 3, 2011 8:07 AM CST up reply actions  

-2 Broncos

Thanks for the hate reminder, Greg. Let’s all raise a glass in hopes that the Broncos continue to be an absolute train-wreckery mess next season.

"Believe me Delmar, woman is the most fiendish instrument of torture ever devised to bedevil the days of man."

by Ben T on Mar 3, 2011 7:34 AM CST reply actions  

Neither of you guys hates the Broncos as much, apparently

as Josh McDaniels did. What he did there was awesome. He traded off their best players and alienated everyone else, then got caught cheating.

Your hatred is small in comparison.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 3, 2011 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm just working within my very limited ability.

Maybe if I had talent as a videographer, I could…

"Believe me Delmar, woman is the most fiendish instrument of torture ever devised to bedevil the days of man."

by Ben T on Mar 3, 2011 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

-1 for the Cowboys and -1 for the Broncos

SuperBowl XXXII was a catastrophe. Could have been back to back champs for the 1st time since the 60s. And as for the Cowboys, we might have been their sooner had it not been for them and they were getting some pretty obnoxious bandwagon fans in the 90s also. Can I give a point, or maybe half a point to the Cowboy fans also?

When life gives ya lemons, shut up and eat your damn lemons.
Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLVI, Guaranteed! - REVENGE4FAVRE

by P-Townfan on Mar 3, 2011 9:27 AM CST reply actions  

-2 Vikings

Yesterday I put all the hate on the Bears, but today I have to put it all to the Vikings. Here’s why….

They pretend to have tradition (yes, yes, 50 years as a franchise is nice and all but when a Packer legend who has only played with you a year and a half is listed as one of your top 50 players of all time it shows that you’ve done jack with those 50 years)

The stadium is a piss hole and somehow I get the feeling that the team and state are growing to screw up a good thing and let them go.

The horn.

Their mascot is a person who looks like a cross between a bum and the freakiest person you find at a Ren fair.

They have the weirdest Packer fetish (they love our players and hate us…wha?)

by PackApologist on Mar 3, 2011 9:30 AM CST reply actions  

Oh and one more thing...

If there is any fan base that fickle in this division it’s the Vikings. The team couldn’t sell out a home playoff game without having some of the big corporations buy up the tickets at the last second. It’s almost as if the team admitted it that year with the “Get on the Boat” mantra to sell tickets.

Then finally they have the nerve to say we don’t respect our legends because we boo’d Brett when he came back here both times. Damn right we boo’d him, he ripped out our guts, said only true Packer fans would route for him on the Vikings, and on multiple occasions tried to undermine the Packers to the other team (his long conversation with Matt Millen about how to pick apart the Packer’s defense back in 08 anyone?)

Eff them.

by PackApologist on Mar 3, 2011 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

"Get On The Boat"?

Fred Smoot approves of that slogan.

When life gives ya lemons, shut up and eat your damn lemons.
Brett Favre will lead the Vikings to a Victory in Super Bowl XLVI, Guaranteed! - REVENGE4FAVRE

by P-Townfan on Mar 3, 2011 9:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Makes you wonder . . .

If the “Love Boat” incident is why Favre wanted to be a Viking so badly. Maybe he thought to himself, “now there’s a team that knows how to let it all hang out” (pun intended).

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 3, 2011 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

That's probably why Millen failed so miserably.

Taking all of his advice from Favre…

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 3, 2011 9:55 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

MOAR WIDEOUTS!

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 3, 2011 4:41 PM CST up reply actions  

That's some quality hate right there

I remember that playoff game SHOULD have been blacked out in Minnesota and the NFL gave them not one but TWO extensions to sell out their tickets. How effing lame is that?!?! You can’t even sell out a home playoff game? Weak.

by wibrownguy on Mar 3, 2011 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

-1 MIN, -1 DEN

Coup de grâce, yo.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 3, 2011 10:24 AM CST reply actions  

That's okay

That’s okay.

It’s all right that the Vikings “won”.

I’m not bitter.

My hate will go on.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 3, 2011 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

There's enough respect for the Bears to mitigate some hate

They are still going down well before anyone else even smells zero points in this game.

Did I mention that Viking fans seem to think we disrespect history cause we boo’d Favre. That thought process alone earned most of them a special spot of football hell.

by PackApologist on Mar 3, 2011 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

On another note...

Not a single person has voted against the Lions. Personally, I find it hard to hold any true animosity towards the Lions. Who’s going to break the ice on this one? They are in our division, after all. Maybe somebody out there still resents all those Thanksgiving Day defeats from the 1950’s.

by wibrownguy on Mar 3, 2011 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Saving division opponents for tomorrow.

Even then, they’re after the Viqueens and Bears.

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 3, 2011 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Scratch that.

’Queens are gone.

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 3, 2011 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Well I suppose you would ony really need to be

in your 60’s to have been a teenager in that era. And you know how those wild teenagers in the 1950’s were, with their Rock and Roll, milkshakes, and going to the hop!

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 3, 2011 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmm.

And I hated the Lions in the 50s and 60s, but that was, you know, quite a long while ago.

For about the last twenty years, I’ve felt sorry for them. It’s hard to hate somebody you’re feeling sorry for.

by bob47 on Mar 7, 2011 3:01 AM CST up reply actions  

+2 Vikings

Strictly an effort to keep them around to abuse some more,
and I’d hate for anyone to miss the opportunity to get in their licks.

There is no hate as sweet as Vike hate, and I’ll miss ‘em when they’re gone.

by ReadTheFinePrint on Mar 3, 2011 12:03 PM CST reply actions  

Sorry
Once a team reaches zero, they get moved to the graveyard, and are next on the list of Packer fans hated teams (and can no longer be voted up or down).

[insert obvious joke about username]

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 3, 2011 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Thought the vote was tallied at the end of the day.

and not an instantaneous tally.

But I’ve F@#$d up on the rules so many times already, guess one more time doesn’t matter < bg >.

[insert obvious joke about username]
That’s funny. I don’t care who ya are, that’s funny right there. getter done!

by ReadTheFinePrint on Mar 3, 2011 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I apologize if this is NSFW, but...

Clutch16 is Carmine, and well… you know who the Locust is/are.

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 3, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry, you can't raise the dead.

Who do you think you are Jesus Chrysler?

You can continue to hate on them in this thread, just not in vote form.

(and dangit, Clutch16, I was going to make that joke right as you posted it).

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by Wiedmann on Mar 3, 2011 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

-1 Da Bears and -1 Patriots

Gonna drink some more Haterade today!

Resons for both are plenty and described nicely by others above.

by Zundar on Mar 3, 2011 12:27 PM CST reply actions  

Vikings are already eliminated

Would you like to take both points from the Patriots* or would you like it applied to someone else?

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by Wiedmann on Mar 3, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Can schizophrenics vote twice in one day?

One personality, one vote, right?

That’s how they do it in Chicago, anyways. . . .

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 3, 2011 2:34 PM CST reply actions  

Only if your alternate personality is dead

Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."

by GoGregGo on Mar 3, 2011 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

It's good you knocked them down

I kinda like the Lions, but no team, let alone a divisional rival should be above 32. If I wasn’t so feverishly demoting the Patriots every day until they’re gone, my next votes might be for the Steelers/Browns/Bills/anyone else above 32.

This is a hate thread, people. Atlanta gave us our 1st playoff loss at Lambeau, and they’ve lost only 1 point so far. The Panthers & Redskins are owned by Richardson & Snyder, respectively, and have yet to lose a point. I could make a case for hating every team on the list (some more than others), and I will if I have to. The Browns? That’s not even a real team; the real Browns left for Baltimore because the Colts left, and you can hate on both the Colts & Ravens for relocating (because REAL franchises don’t move). Other relocaters include the Cle/LA/StL Rams, Chi/StL/Phx/Ari Cardinals, Bos/Was Redskins, LA/SD Chargers, Oak Raiders (sorta). The Chiefs moved & changed their name, from Dal Texans to KC Chiefs, like the Hou Oilers to Ten Oilers/Titans and division rivals Decatur Staleys/Chi Bears, Portsmouth Spartans/Det Lions. The NY Titans/Jets just changed their name, but c’mon, they’re coached by Rex Ryan.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 3, 2011 5:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Patience, my friend...

The pwnage is on the way.

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 3, 2011 6:27 PM CST up reply actions  

First things first....

You know before we get the more subtle forms of hate the bigger fish have to fry….in our case that’s the Vikings and Bears. All of us want to get at least some shot at them and then we’ll move on to some of the more collateral hates.

by PackApologist on Mar 3, 2011 8:18 PM CST up reply actions  

"more collateral hates"

What a great phrase you have just coined.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 3, 2011 8:19 PM CST up reply actions  

+1's have their place

There are good reasons for giving out +1’s. It can be done out of hate, as I will demonstrate when I’m eligible to vote again after midnight.

by wibrownguy on Mar 3, 2011 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't see the need for +1 until the team has at least under 20 points

I’m curious about midnight’s vote, now.
If you are thinking about giving a +2 to the Bears so the Patriots* die first:
1. That is futile
2. Even I wouldn’t cast the final Patriots* -1 to kill them before the Bears, and I despise those dirty new englanders more than the Bears, but the history of hate is there. They’ve gotta be the next one in the graveyard.

If you are thinking of giving a +1 to the Jets to piss off Patriots fans or something like that:
1. It’s a dick move.
2. I support it.

13.

by Wiedmann on Mar 3, 2011 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

Trust me, there will be no points awarded to the Bears.

by wibrownguy on Mar 3, 2011 9:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Is a -2 for Tom Brady also a -2 for Justin Bieber?

In that case I may do it just to spite both at the same time.

The whole 2 turds…err, birds with one stone thing.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 3, 2011 9:43 PM CST up reply actions  

No.

Justin Bieber is a Lakers fan. He’s NOT a New England fan…

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 3, 2011 10:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Do you know how WRONG this is?

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 3, 2011 11:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Who's that chick?

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B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 3, 2011 11:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Bieber.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 4, 2011 12:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Umm

I think he was being sarcastic. Just a hunch.

by wibrownguy on Mar 4, 2011 5:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh I know he's not a fan

But Brady tried to look like Bieber….so they were interchangeable to me for a while.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 3, 2011 10:54 PM CST up reply actions  

For a while.

Then Brady’s hair got about a foot longer than the Bieb’s, assisted or otherwise.

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by insertscreenname on Mar 4, 2011 12:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

It went well with the Uggs that Giselle made him wear.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 4, 2011 12:34 AM CST up reply actions  

I'd do whatever she told me to do, as well...

You know you would too.

"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West

by insertscreenname on Mar 4, 2011 2:07 AM CST up reply actions  

I… I would…

/weeps uncontrollably

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 4, 2011 4:45 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

-2 BEARS SUCK.

"I haven't been out carousing." -Aaron Rodgers

by gavitron9 on Mar 3, 2011 5:59 PM CST reply actions  

-2 Bucs

Still don’t like them from the Warren Sapp days.

"They’re good players. They’re basically all the same guy, except for Jordy Nelson is Caucasian."

--Ryan Clark, Pittsburgh S, on the Green Bay receivers

by Kuhl on Mar 3, 2011 8:09 PM CST reply actions  

Need a reason to hate?

Arizona Cardinals – Playoffs, 2009. Their team is named after an aesthetically pleasing but harmless animal (this isn’t the Lingerie League, folks). Also, they originated in Chicago. ‘Nuff said.
Atlanta Falcons – Beat Packers in Lambeau in the playoffs. Their fans think Matt Ryan is better than Aaron Rodgers. Jerry Glanville. Dome.
Baltimore Ravens – their most iconic player doubles as the NFL’s most iconic murderer.
Buffalo Bills – Lost four Super Bowls to the NFC East, and ever since then the media has treated that division as the SEC (also lost two Super Bowls to the Cowboys), haven’t been competitive since.
Carolina Panthers – Jerry Richardson wants more money, even though he only paid $250 million for team that now worth almost a billion. Sissy uniform colors, too.
Chicago Bears – I touched on this above.
Cincinnati Bengals – No murderers, but plenty of criminals (and criminally incompetent owner). Nearest Bengal tiger is thousands of miles away.
Cleveland Browns – Fake team with stolen history.
Dallas Cowboys – Once the Bears are done I’ll start in on that. In the meantime, I’ll just leave it at Jerry Jones and their beatdown of the Packers in the early to mid 90’s. Also, their preposterous stadium that pretty much ensures the average fan will never be able to afford to go to the game.
Denver Broncos – Super Bowl XXXII. John Elway. And horses are poorly suited to mountainous terrain.
Detroit Lions – The 1950’s (from what I hear), possibly the only city in the U.S. that’s more depressing than Houston. Nearest actual lion is thousands of miles away.
Green Bay Packers – The only team that their is no single reason to dislike, let alone hate. Dome team.
Houston Texans – everything is bigger in Texas (which includes assholes). Houston is a depressing hole of a city. Dome team. Did I mention they’re in Texas?
Indianapolis Colts – Peyton Manning’s attempts to bring “flopping” to the NFL. Leaving Baltimore in the middle of the night. Play in a dome.
Jacksonville Jaguars – those XFLish uniforms. They peaked in their second year of existence.
Kansas City Chiefs – located in the state of Missouri. They are trying to be New England West. Crappy artificial turf.
Miami Dolphins – still gloating about undefeated team that played one of the weakest schedules in NFL history. Home of the Miami Heat.
Minnesota Vikings – I think TSSC covered this pretty adequately
New England Patriots – Allowed the Bears to win their only Super Bowl, Tom Brady also trying to bring “flopping” to NFL. Ugly helmets.
New Orleans Saints – Allowed the Bears to advance to their second Super Bowl appearance . . . I’m having a hard time with this one because the Bears lost that Super Bowl, and I’ll always be gracious to them for knocking out the Vikings in such grandiose style. Okay – got one – they play in a dome! How could I miss that? It’s so obvious!
New York Giants – A New York team that plays in New Jersey. Actually, now that I realized that my hatred for this team just skyrocketed.
New York Jets – See previous entry and add Rex Ryan and his bitching about Woodson’s DPOY.
Oakland Raiders – Their fans, at best, are a bunch of cretins.
Philadelphia Eagles – the people of the city of Philadelphia . . . Need I say more?
Pittsburgh Steelers – Steroids. Crappy field.
San Diego Chargers – Ryan Leaf. Philip Rivers.
San Francisco 49ers – Because Jerry Rice stole Sterling Sharpe’s spotlight.
Seattle Seahawks – Obnoxious fans, Matt Hasselbeck’s douche-iness, that stupid neon.
St. Louis Rams – also in Missouri. Dome team.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers – What Warren Sapp did to Chad Clifton, those hideous orange jerseys, letting Jon Gruden win a Super Bowl because he inherited a stocked team.
Tennessee Titans – Brought Pacman Jones into the league.
Washington Redskins – Their nickname, their coach, and their owner.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 3, 2011 9:08 PM CST reply actions  

I'm going to plus the Texans tomorrow

Just because I love me some Texas and especially the Gulf Coast/Houston area.

Also going to plus the Saints for no other reason than they knocked off the Vikings (greater than a GB victory that year) and Peyton in the same year to win the SB. And Payton has balls of steel.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 3, 2011 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Denver Broncos – Super Bowl XXXII. John Elway. And horses are poorly suited to mountainous terrain.

You left out “sold out and went from one of the best stadium names in football (Mile High) to one of the worst (Investco)”. Excellent point on horses however.

Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."

by GoGregGo on Mar 4, 2011 7:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Arizona Cardinals – Playoffs, 2009. Their team is named after an aesthetically pleasing but harmless animal

But they are (were) harmful on the field with Warner.

The Vikings are named after a aesthetically unpleasing and harmful animal but on the football field they only kept the aesthetically unpleasing part.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 8, 2011 3:34 AM CST up reply actions  

In case you were wondering MCM (Titans blog) who had a headstart on us

1 Bal Ravens
2 Pit Steelers
3 Ind Colts
4 NE Patriots
5 NY Jets
6 Dal Cowboys
7 Hou Texans
8 SD Chargers
9 Jac Jaguars: 15
10 Min Vikings: 16

Packers are tied for 8th most points with 33.

Pride of Detroit has the Jets (5) at the gallows, but haven’t brought out the rope yet. Bears (13), Cowboys (19) & Redskins (24) are the only teams with less than 25. Packers have yet to be touched.

13.

by Wiedmann on Mar 3, 2011 10:16 PM CST reply actions  

Thats interesting

Wonder why the Titans hate Min but love us….

And also weird that Det hates the Jets that much but not us as well.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 3, 2011 10:22 PM CST up reply actions  

It has to do with that overtime robbery the Jets committed, I'm guessing.

Seriously, they had no business winning that game whatsoever.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 3, 2011 10:34 PM CST up reply actions  

-2 Lakers.

Wait, WHAT?!

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 3, 2011 11:31 PM CST reply actions  

...

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 3, 2011 11:46 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

This photo...

… is awesome. I laughed so hard the first time I saw the video!

by wibrownguy on Mar 4, 2011 3:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Add a team photo of the Vikings

and you’ve got yourself an Epic Fail.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 5, 2011 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

-1 DET Lions.

Landon Johnson… you can go f*** yourself.

’kay?

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 3, 2011 11:59 PM CST reply actions  

D'oh, got that one in just before midnight. My computer said it was 12:00 already, tho...

Does it still count?

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B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 4, 2011 12:00 AM CST up reply actions  

I thought there would be more midnight voters. I guess not everybody works overnight shifts like I do.

by wibrownguy on Mar 4, 2011 12:37 AM CST up reply actions  

It looks like love ... but it's really HATE!

You might think that just because the Viqueens are already in the graveyard that you can no longer hate on them with your votes, but you would be WRONG! Today’s votes are all about finding a way to continue the hate on the Viqueens. Just because they’re already in the graveyard doesn’t mean I can’t piss on their grave.

First, the Falcons get a point for their performance in the 1998-99 NFC Championship game. I’m not one to sing any praises of the Vikings, but their 1998 team was flat-out dominant. 1998 was probably their single best chance at winning a Super Bowl since their four flubs in the 70’s. Atlanta had a good team as well, but they had no business winning that championship game in Minnesota. The Vikings seemed to have twice as much talent as anybody else in the conference that year, including the 14-2 Falcons. While that game was being played I purposefully went to the shopping mall to mill around because I was certain that Minnesota would make it to the Super Bowl and I had no interest in watching them succeed in doing so. Around the time I knew the game would be ending I saw a bunch of people standing around a TV at one of the stores and figured I was going to find out about the bad news sooner or later, so I may as well go over and watch the ending. Much to my great delight, what I saw on the screen was the Falcons lining up to kick the game-winning field goal, and it went through! Hooray! I danced a little jig of delight. Seeing all of the dejected Viqueen players and fans filled me with so much joy I could hardly contain myself. Schadenfreude manifested itself. 15-1 seasons don’t just come around all the time, and the glumness I witnessed on the faces of those associated with the Viqueens was evidence that they all knew they had blown their best chance of winning it all. So thank you Falcons! You get a point.

Secondly, the Saints get a point for last year’s NFC Championship game. As bad as it would be to see the Viqueens win a Super Bowl at any point, last year would have been the absolute worst by far. To see OUR icon Favre bring a title to the hated purple turds would have been excruciating. When Favre beat the Packers in the dome, the Viqueen fans gloated. When they beat us again at Lambeau, the gloating intensified. Not that they weren’t justified in doing so, as I’m sure we’d do the same if the situation were reversed. But it still sucked a rat’s tit. The Viqueens knew that they had a good team and a legit shot at finally getting off the title schneid, and to make the possibility especially delectable for them, they were about to do so using OUR longtime iconic quarterback. Not so fast, said the Saints! For one moment Favre reverted to his INT-tossing self and the Saints didn’t waste their opportunity to score first in overtime. Reacting to the loss in typical whiny fashion, the Viqueens complained incessantly afterwards: "Boo hoo! It’s not fair! Why should the team that wins the coin toss get the first chance to score? If we had gotten the ball first, we would have won! Boo hoo!" They were so boisterous with their complaints that the NFL actually changed the OT rules the next year, which is absolutely preposterous IMHO (I don’t think you should have a different set of rules for the postseason from the regular season. But that’s a topic for another thread). So thank you Saints! You get a point.

So there it is. There are still ways to vote anti-Minnesota if you want to, although I admit that this is most likely the only day I will be doing so; I’ve got more hate to dispense with negative votes from here on out.

by wibrownguy on Mar 4, 2011 12:02 AM CST up reply actions  

+2 for this post.

"This is a football." "Slow down, coach! You're goin' too fast!"

by Cool Hand on Mar 4, 2011 2:05 AM CST up reply actions  

-2 Giants.

2007 NFC Championship Game. Shouldn’t have gone to overtime, did, and…that went swimmingly, didn’t it?

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 4, 2011 12:06 AM CST reply actions  

+1 Texans / +1 Saints

Who dat? The team that knocked off the Vikings!

And the Texans…. I forgot they were a real NFL team for a while until someone brought them up. And they are the first team since the Chiefs left Texas to take it upon themselves to compete with the Cowgirls for the state of Texas. They need all the love they can get if you hate the Cowpies.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 4, 2011 12:14 AM CST reply actions  

Excellent backhanded Dallas hate

Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."

by GoGregGo on Mar 4, 2011 7:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Is there any other kind?

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 5, 2011 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

-1 Bears.

My other vote for today (forgot to post it earlier). And it is self-explanatory.

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 4, 2011 1:47 AM CST reply actions  

-1 Dallas, -1 Denver

Seeing some earlier comments gave me more flashbacks to the 90’s. Also glad to see others sharing my hatred of John “I HATE YOU JOHN ELWAY DIE DIE DIE” Elway.

This is why you won’t see me putting a -1 on the Pats or Steelers any time soon. Sure, they’ve beaten us in other games, but they lost the ones they were supposed to.

"This is a football." "Slow down, coach! You're goin' too fast!"

by Cool Hand on Mar 4, 2011 2:13 AM CST reply actions  

Excellent choices, sir

Anyone who was too much of a bitch to follow in Unitas’ footsteps deserves all the hate they get.

13.

by Wiedmann on Mar 4, 2011 2:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Ugh.

Just one of many reasons to hope he gets punched in his giant horse teeth.

Also, I blame him for ruining the Arena League. Fortunately, he’s not part of the new one. SEASON STARTS IN ONE WEEK!

"This is a football." "Slow down, coach! You're goin' too fast!"

by Cool Hand on Mar 4, 2011 2:55 AM CST up reply actions  

-1 Broncos -1 Buccaneers

Thank you Kodos for reminding me of Warren Sapp’s disregard for offensive linemen’s hips.

John Elway can take this opportunity to go fornicate himself with an iron rod.

And furthermore, this is a vote for fantasy football players everywhere who had to put up with Mike Shanahan’s mind-games are RB throughout the years. Yes, we’re all very impressed that you found a legal way to break defensive linemen’s legs so that my grandma could run for 75 yards in a game for you guys (she’s awfully spry, you see), but can you at least commit to a g**d***m*****f******** running back so that I can get some useful points out of him?!

Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."

by GoGregGo on Mar 4, 2011 7:19 AM CST reply actions  

FTFY

Warren Sapp’s disregard for offensive linemen’s hips lives.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 4, 2011 8:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey...

He came from TheThug U… what do you expect?

Also the home of Ray ‘I Didn’t See Nothin’ Lewis…

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B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 4, 2011 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Apparently my hate impedes my ability to type coherently

I think I meant “mind games WITH RB”? I don’t even remember any more.

Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."

by GoGregGo on Mar 4, 2011 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

-2 Broncos

They must die — that is all.

"Believe me Delmar, woman is the most fiendish instrument of torture ever devised to bedevil the days of man."

by Ben T on Mar 4, 2011 8:23 AM CST reply actions  

-1 Broncos -1 Redskins

Going to try something different today….

Broncos cause I hate them, John Elway, and the special applicances people buy in Denver (live at a normal altitude like the rest of us!).

Redskins I hate because they have an owner that personifies everything wrong with the NFL The owner is not only a dumbass with personnel moves he also is nickel and diming his fan base dry in order to turn a quick buck…..because of him they all must die.

by PackApologist on Mar 4, 2011 8:36 AM CST reply actions  

How could it be

that I live in Denver and don’t know about the special appliances? This pisses me off. I want special appliances too. I mean, sure, I get ice and water through the fridge door, but that’s not considered special anymore. I have a smooth-top range, but that’s old hat as well and takes forever to heat up. I have a front-load washer, but all that does is shimmy like a sonofabitch and twist my clothes to within an inch of their lives. I wouldn’t call that special, but it does create a sort of magic trick as you attempt to pull one item out and all the clothes come out in one long string. If I have to put up with John Elway and the freakin’ Broncos and their fans, I deserve my special appliances.

"Believe me Delmar, woman is the most fiendish instrument of torture ever devised to bedevil the days of man."

by Ben T on Mar 4, 2011 9:54 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Well I know they have to have special plasma TV's

Basically there are some appliances that get messed with because of the lack of air pressure. Plasma TV’s are the most notable but I thought that there were a few others.

by PackApologist on Mar 4, 2011 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Also don't forget about the high altitude cooking instructions

They think they’re so special because water boils at 208° instead of 212°.

by wibrownguy on Mar 4, 2011 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Rec

For the magic trick comment. I laughed.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 5, 2011 1:33 AM CST up reply actions  

-2 Buccaneers

"They’re good players. They’re basically all the same guy, except for Jordy Nelson is Caucasian."

--Ryan Clark, Pittsburgh S, on the Green Bay receivers

by Kuhl on Mar 4, 2011 9:39 AM CST reply actions  

you guys voted the queens off before the bears??????

what an f-ing disgrace. That’s like yankees fans hating the Rays over the Red Sox. Why would you even waste your time hating the vikings? They play in a dome, they wear purple, and they are 0-4 in the superbowl.

-2 Bears

Upon Further Review.........

The Bears Still Suck

by smackwaterjack on Mar 4, 2011 10:20 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Respect and hate

The Packers are an odd little franchise in that we have two other franchises that really rival us. Well one of those (the Bears) have that rivalry built on respect. I hate them sure, but I also respect them. As much as Halas tried to screw us over, he was also one of the main guys to rally the crowds to ensure we got Lambeau…he gave our team critical loans to keep it a float back in the day….and as much as Lombardi and Lambeau hated Halas there was an underlying respect.

The Vikings? Well they just get under my skin. There are any number of reasons why but it all boils down to the fact that this franchise tends to be more about style than substance. Also keep in mind that they have adopted the worst and most obnoxious of Packer fans who look like they might stick there (thanks the gods).

by PackApologist on Mar 4, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions   3 recs

+1

"They’re good players. They’re basically all the same guy, except for Jordy Nelson is Caucasian."

--Ryan Clark, Pittsburgh S, on the Green Bay receivers

by Kuhl on Mar 4, 2011 5:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Nicely put

Gotta respect the Bears, it’s a historic rivalry, I don’t want to see the Bears win, ever, but I honestly can’t hate them the way I do the Vikings or Cowboys. I hope the Bears never win another Superbowl but every time the teams meet I wish Bears fans luck and that the best team wins (without penalty flags galore for either side). I have friends who are Bears fans who are nice people who I can’t fault for their fandom… I can’t be friends with a Vikings fan.

(I mean sure, probably I guess, but I really can’t picture it. )

by pharom on Mar 4, 2011 7:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Bingo.

Though we’ll never know if they stick or not, because they’ll just change their names and float back without us ever knowing the difference.

For instance, R4F still has season tickets and my guess is that most weeks he shows up and wears his Packers gear and cheers with everybody else. And I’d bet a lot of money that puddnhead was pulling for the Packers in the SB while it was going on, no matter what he says now.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 5, 2011 9:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Also, Halas recommended Lombardi to the BoD.

That glass is flowing over!

"It's a great day to be great, baby!"

"Here I am, brain the size of a planet, and they ask me to pick up a piece of paper. You call that job satisfaction? 'Cause, I don't."

THE BEARS STILL SUCK!

by NorthStarr on Mar 6, 2011 7:55 PM CST up reply actions  

A lot of us live in Vikings country

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 4, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Ach, that's not true.

SOME Vikings fans are douches. Not all. Probably not even most. But the ones that are, are pretty bad.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 5, 2011 9:31 AM CST up reply actions  

I wasn't gonna say anything, as this is a hate thread

But, yeah, I’ve met my share of both decent and not-so-decent Vikes fans. As usual, the breakdown is generally by age first and BAC second. Of course, I couldn’t help but show off the Packers Super Bowl XLV Champions pennant to my die-hard Vikings fan boss. The even was made even sweeter because he knows it was his money that bought it.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 5, 2011 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

-2 Philly

I hate the Phillies in baseball so much that I’m going to take it out on their football team

by AaronR on Mar 4, 2011 10:21 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

This...

Is the most logical thing I’ve seen all day.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 5, 2011 1:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Both of those NY teams better be gone, FAST, then...

I hate the Yankees with a passion.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 5, 2011 1:57 AM CST up reply actions  

If thats the case, I would take out Giants and Jets

due to A-Roid alone! I feel no greater hate for an athlete than I do for him. Never mind the fact that his little whining/attention-whoring distracted from GB’s SB victory, but the fact that this self-centered asshat has basically crapped on every single tradition/unwritten rule of the game of baseball. Its hard to find someone who has disrespected the very game they play as much as this pompous, walking, self-ejaculating dick.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 5, 2011 4:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Only fans I've nearly gotten into a fight with at Wrigley Field.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 8:34 AM CST up reply actions  

-1 DAL, -1 SF

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 4, 2011 10:41 AM CST reply actions  

-1 Broncos +1 Steelers

Needed to get out my John Elway hate. And I liked the Steelers when growing up, late 70s. Plus there fans were pretty classy on here before and after XLV. So here’s a point.

by Zundar on Mar 4, 2011 11:32 AM CST reply actions  

-1 Cowboys +1 Steelers

I fricken hated the damn Cowboys in the 90’s.

If the Packers did not exist, I would probably be a steeler fan. They run their company right.

by Tedaldtada29 on Mar 4, 2011 1:07 PM CST reply actions  

We've gotta kill those Cowgirls.

1 playoff win in 15 (or 16?) years? Their right to the ’America’s Team’ title has been REVOKED! And then thrown into the incinerator, where it belongs.

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B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 4, 2011 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

-2 Bears

I cannot believe they’re still there. This is my first vote that’s not in the wee hours of the morning. I had to go away a little while after the Vikings went out before the Bears. I had to take a step back and see if I was missing anything. Apparently everyone here wants to make love to the Bears because they respect them (just kidding). But I will not just give up. I will not go quietly into the night. My hate will go on.

I will not allow my hatred to be mitigated by respect! In fact, the respect I have for the Bears only multiplies my hatred because I hate that I have respect for that lowly franchise.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 4, 2011 6:11 PM CST reply actions  

The Bears will be 2nd

I hate the Bears due to the rivalry with the Packers and Chicago sports radio. On the other hand, for anyone born after the Bears Super Bowl win, I think that the Vikings are the more hated rival. Moss mooning the fans, the love boat, Brett Favre, Mike Tice, Culpepper’s arm rolling celebration. It’s the off the field stuff, and the general douchery displayed by both the team and the fans that causes me to LOATH the Vikes.

"They’re good players. They’re basically all the same guy, except for Jordy Nelson is Caucasian."

--Ryan Clark, Pittsburgh S, on the Green Bay receivers

by Kuhl on Mar 4, 2011 7:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Culpepper was travelling, actually.

Gotta dribble the football before you can take two steps with it. Wait, WHAT?!

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 4, 2011 7:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd blocked out Culpepper's dumbass celebration.

-2 VIKINGS I DON’T CARE IF THEY’RE ALREADY GONE I WANT THEM TO BE MORE DEAD

(Seriously though, real votes coming later.)

"This is a football." "Slow down, coach! You're goin' too fast!"

by Cool Hand on Mar 5, 2011 2:37 AM CST up reply actions  

-1 Dallas, -1 Eagles

For as much as I hate the Broncos, I break down emotionally any time 4th and 26th is mentioned. Plus I still haven’t fully gotten over what Dallas did to us during the 90’s.

by msc32887 on Mar 4, 2011 7:08 PM CST reply actions  

-1 Cowboys +1 Pittsburgh

Gotta love the Steelers having similar philosophy to the Pack in a few areas, and can’t fault them for the actions of just one or two players on/off the field.

Cowboys? Already been covered. No thanks America’s team.

by pharom on Mar 4, 2011 7:45 PM CST reply actions  

-1 Cowboys, -1 Eagles

Jerry Jones is obnoxious, and everyone hates that stupid “Americas team” moniker. The eagles, well because of 4th and 26, their fans, and they have vick.

by Shoes31 on Mar 4, 2011 9:38 PM CST reply actions  

-2 Cowboys

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by mike_o on Mar 5, 2011 12:06 AM CST reply actions  

Bucs -2

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by Kuhl on Mar 5, 2011 12:11 AM CST reply actions  

-1 Giants, -1 Bears

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 5, 2011 12:12 AM CST reply actions  

Someone else can take the killshot...

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 5, 2011 12:12 AM CST up reply actions  

I hearby take a big dump on the Bears and execute a Mortal Kombat-style FATALITY!

by wibrownguy on Mar 5, 2011 12:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Congrats

I wasn’t sure if I got it in with the -2 above or what, but I’m glad someone took them down.

by PackApologist on Mar 5, 2011 12:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I wonder...

if Bears fans are insulted that they weren’t #1 on the hatelist. I think I would be insulted if we weren’t #1 on the forthcoming Windy City Gridiron list.

Actually, I take that back, if they had the Vikings #1 for the same reasons we do (respect for history), I don’t think it would bother me.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 5, 2011 1:05 AM CST up reply actions  

You know what I find odd?

I’m surprised how little the Packers are hated in some of the other games. I figured with just winning the SB there would be some hate if only because that’s what fans do in the NFL. Also spending a fair bit of time at DN you just accept a fair level of hate in general, but most of those other boards the Packers have lost little if any points. Sometimes I even saw them over 32 for a couple days at a time.

That’s a lot of respect and love for our Pack.

by PackApologist on Mar 5, 2011 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

its cause youbeat the steelers

like when the Giants beat the Pats my hate for the pats made me a temporary giants fan.

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by Udalango on Mar 6, 2011 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Winning the Superbowl + Not being in the AFC = RESPECT

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by natidawg on Mar 6, 2011 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks!

You made a good choice, and I’m sure you will have no regrets about your decision.

TSSC and the others are right about respect for the Bears, of course, but I just want to hate them more than the Vikings.

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by I voted for Kodos on Mar 5, 2011 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

I think maybe it was mine? … if I’m following the point tally correctly. If not I can happily shift my votes to another team, but either way they’re gone.

by wibrownguy on Mar 5, 2011 12:18 AM CST reply actions  

Damnit, I hate it when I post a new comment when I meant to reply to the lowest comment on the thread.

by wibrownguy on Mar 5, 2011 12:19 AM CST up reply actions  

And one last reason to hate the Bears:

They included two saxophone solos in “The Super Bowl Shuffle”

by wibrownguy on Mar 5, 2011 12:24 AM CST up reply actions   3 recs

What an insult to saxophones/sax players everywhere...

Stupid Bears.

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by mike_o on Mar 5, 2011 12:35 AM CST up reply actions  

My votes have not changed from day-to-day.

and they will continue in this manner, until I am forced to hate on another team by the fact that they are in the graveyard.

Bears are dead, now joining the Vikings in the graveyard. This is where it gets interesting. I knew those would be the first two to go, that’s pretty much a consensus. Now we’re actually going to have fracturing of votes, and maybe even a +1 or 2 for a team with less than 32. Don’t stop voting just because the big two are gone.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 5, 2011 1:01 AM CST reply actions  

Indy -1 / Bengals -1

Indy because Peyton Manning whines. And I hate in Madden how he audibles his call 18 times before each play. We play a back and forth game for 30 seconds with our line just to have him hand off. A$$hole.

Bengals because their owner (despite being a legend in the NFL) is now an idiot. And TO. And Ocho Johnson.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 5, 2011 1:40 AM CST reply actions  

Paul Brown is dead

It’s his snot-nosed kid, Mike, who owns the team now. He certainly is no legend. The team hasn’t won a playoff game under his tenure. The last season that Paul Brown was alive, the Bengals won their division and a playoff game. The next season (Paul died in August), the 1st under Mike, they went 3-13.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 5, 2011 1:59 AM CST up reply actions  

You're right.

Thats my mistake. I still hate him enough to -1 them though. My apologizes Mr. Paul Brown.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 5, 2011 4:46 AM CST up reply actions  

-2 Eagles

For booing Santa Clause! Didn’t they throw snowballs at him too?

by Zundar on Mar 5, 2011 2:43 AM CST reply actions  

Guys, seriously

the Cowboys have more points than the Patriots do.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW WRONG THAT IS? It just seems so wrong to have the worst bandwagoners in the NFL ("America’s Team) with more points than a team that we kinda beat around in a Super Bowl (New England).

Yeah. You hate BB, I know. But the Patriots are NOT one of our main rivals; that belongs to the Bucs, the Boys, or the Giants. In other words, teams we play more than once every four years.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 5, 2011 2:51 AM CST reply actions  

I've got my sights on Dallas...

They’ll be gone by the 15th (or sooner if I get help) :D

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by mike_o on Mar 5, 2011 3:01 AM CST up reply actions  

I WILL ANSWER THE CALL

I like to tell people that Cowboys fans aren’t allowed into heaven.

-2 Dallas.

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by Cool Hand on Mar 5, 2011 3:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes.

"This is a football." "Slow down, coach! You're goin' too fast!"

by Cool Hand on Mar 5, 2011 4:57 AM CST up reply actions  

A lot of the Patriots* points lost is because of me

“worst bandwagoners in the NFL” easily goes to the Patriots* fans. Are you serious? Granted there’s a lot of annoying Cowboys fans, but really it doesn’t compare. Cowboys fans shut up when their team starts to suck, but NE doesn’t choke until the playoffs, so they run their damn mouths (with that horrible Masshole accent) the whole regular season.

I can’t get through a fricking football game without hearing mention of “Tom Brady & Peyton Manning” (mental note, downgrade Colts whenever possible). When was the last time you watched a non-Cowboys game where they mentioned a Cowboys player? Maybe they brought up DeMarcus Ware when talking about a pass-rushing end or something like that, but it certainly is much less frequent.

This isn’t about “who’s done the Packers wrong,” or who are main rivals are, it’s about hate, and people hate the Patriots* with good reason. If this was about main rivals, the Bears would be 1, the Vikings would be 2 & the Lions would be 3 (you know, we’ve only played them 163 times). I’ve certainly mellowed on the Cowboys since the mid-‘90s, because it’s just not that intense anymore. Sure, Jerry Jones still sucks, but is he really that much more objectionable than Daniel Snyder of the Redskins (who have only lost a single point)? Hating Troy Aikman nowadays doesn’t equate to hating the Cowboys, it equates to hating terrible broadcasting.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 5, 2011 3:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Meh

I don’t hate BB, Brady or the Patriots. I actually think they run a team that is set up for success every year. If anything I am jealous (I should say, WAS jealous). I hated them because they were good.

BB is still a great coach
They have good FO leadership
And Brady is a stud for having been a 6th rd pick.

The “cheating” thing never really bothered me as much as it just gave me a way to needle Pats fans.

Plus I have to admit, I love how they shoot muskets after every score!

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 5, 2011 4:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Meh...

… I hate Jerry Jones, but I kind of like having him around (so long as he doesn’t win arguments to limit revenue sharing more than he already has). Why? Because he’s convinced himself that he’s a football guy instead of a money guy. That’s given me the opportunity to watch some wildly entertaining meltdowns on the field the last 15 years. How can I work up a good hate for a team that so willingly provides me a reason to laugh my ass off on an annual basis.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 5, 2011 7:46 AM CST up reply actions  

True true

But you can hate HIM and love what he does to ruin the Cowboys at the same time. If you give it a try you’ll find it’s pretty easy to do.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 5, 2011 10:17 AM CST up reply actions  

It's not possible.

The Patsies should be the next team with 0. Bleep them.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 8:35 AM CST up reply actions  

It's not possible?

It’s not possible? Really? Did they torment the franchise for years in the 90s?

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 5, 2011 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

You know I do have the axe to grind against them but it's not real hate

Or I could just say meh like so many others.

Really I hate Washington more cause their owner is a cheap bastard who will sue little old ladies (more on that tomorrow with my hate vote, or Denver with stupid John Elway, or the Jets with their winning despite building a team the wrong way and jackass of a HC.

by PackApologist on Mar 5, 2011 9:03 AM CST up reply actions  

-2 Cheatriots

By the way, has anyone mentioned that the Patriots haven’t won a title since they got caught cheating?

I’m sure that’s just a coincidence. Truth is, however, that even Bellicheat’s press conference in which he showed the press that giant yellow streak down his back by answering questions while not answering questions (and why is it that Big Mac is vilified for that, but Bellicheat gets a pass) didn’t really make me hate the patriots. Not really. I mean, I was as hacked off as anyone and I was furious that the NFL went into cover-up mode, but I still couldn’t work up a good hate for the Cheatriots.

Until their fans started seizing on phrases like “no competitive advantage gained” and “they broke a rule, but they didn’t cheat”, and suggesting that they only did what they did because it was more efficient, not because they intended to gain an unfair advantage (WTF is the difference?)

All of that would be bad enough, but then people periodically try to export that view by showing up in places their not wanted to proselytize their bizarre “logic”, essentially turning their defenders into the SBN equivalent of the Westboro Baptist Church.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 5, 2011 7:42 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

You have changed my mind

I was going to vote Cowboys -1, Patriots +1 but now I’ve got to find something else. I was going to give the Pats a point because I don’t want people to hate them just for their success (because if that’s the case there’s going to be a lot of Packers hate during the Rodgers era), but you give some other valid reasons to hate. Also, their stupid uniforms/logo are pretty hateable.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 5, 2011 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

People don't hate them for their success

and people won’t hate us for our success.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 5, 2011 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I hated them for their success.

Every team breaks rules if they think they can get away with it.

If you’re not cheating, you’re not trying.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 5, 2011 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

-2 Patriots. It’s asinine to think that they weren’t doing what they were doing to try and gain a competitive advantage.

Plus, I didn’t like them in 2007 when they’d run the score up on teams. Yeah, I understand the whole if you don’t want to get embarrassed, play better theory. But at the same time, when you’re playing the Buffalo Bills, and it’s the 4th quarter, there’s no need to go for it on 4th and goal, making the score 56-10 instead of 49-10. I think that’s pretty classless and because of it I was jumping with joy when the Giants beat them in the Super Bowl.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Mar 5, 2011 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm counting this as your vote for today

Correct me if I’m wrong, and this was just a rant, and nothing official.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 5, 2011 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Nope, you’re right! I’ll be going with the Pats until they’re done.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Mar 5, 2011 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

So...

Going for it on 4th down and giving them a chance to keep the score at 49-10 is worse than kicking an automatic field goal to make it 52-10. Hmmm, one play gives them a chance to get the ball back, one play is just adding unnecessary points.

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by insertscreenname on Mar 5, 2011 7:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, most would just do your standard run play on 4th down, which normally results in a turnover on downs. So yeah, coming out in a shotgun formation, and throwing the ball when you’re up 39 points is unnecessary too me.

And that kind of stuff happened many more times then just that Bills game. I was just referring to that game as an example.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Mar 5, 2011 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

All the cases where the Patriots were accused of scoring

Are on plays like that. In most cases, they couldn’t be stopped anyway. They did give the other team a chance to do so, and they couldn’t.

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by insertscreenname on Mar 5, 2011 10:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Since the Patriots couldn’t score in 07 without being accused of scoring unnecessarily, it fits.

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by insertscreenname on Mar 5, 2011 11:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh God

I’m against running up the score in college, but have no big issues with it in the NFL, where players are (officially) paid. I still think it’s pretty classless, but still don’t think it’s as bad as doing it in college (even worse in HS football).

However, you can at least admit that they were, indeed, running up the score?

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 6, 2011 12:02 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm for it in college more than the NFL

As long as the human polls exist, blowouts will be factored into CFB rankings. The NFL has no incentive to run up the score.

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by Kuhl on Mar 6, 2011 1:09 AM CST up reply actions  

If the other team turns the ball over 7 times

you absolutely should win, and win BIG.

/was at 83-20
/was at 70-23
//both were epic

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 6, 2011 1:22 AM CST up reply actions  

If running up the score means scoring when they have the ball, then yes, the Pats continued to score.

Any fanbase might not like it, because it shows a lack of passion from your team when it happens to you. As for the players, if you don’t like being scored on, do something about it.

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by insertscreenname on Mar 6, 2011 6:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Don’t try and twist the words. They ran up the score numerous times, and did so against the weakest of teams. That’s classless no matter which way you slice it.

There’s a difference between coming out in the shotgun formation when the game is still somewhat within reach, and then there’s coming out in a shotgun formation on 4th and goal in the 4th quarter when you’re up by 39 points.

Some of you Patriots fans are unreal. It’s as if anything and everything Belicheck and his team does is holy and right.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Mar 6, 2011 6:49 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Gasp!

Do NOT upstet the Dark Lord! He may hold a press conference and bore you to death!

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 6, 2011 10:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Well

Sean Payton did kneel on it in Dallas when he was ahead by 3 scores in the Red Zone in the 4th against his mentor Parcells back in ’06 when they went to the playoffs.

You don’t HAVE TO score any more points if you don’t WANT to score more points…

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 6, 2011 2:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Without knowing the situation myself,

Was it in the first 10 minutes of the 4th quarter with less than a 4 score lead?

Final 2 minutes, you have to think that a team could score, stop your offense and use up all their timeouts, and then score again. There’s 16 points. Maybe they continue to get lucky, and recover an onside kick, and are able to take a shot at the endzone. You’re an idiot Texans DB from another TD, and this team in an impossible situation scores 24 points in the final 2 minutes. And as a coach, you look like a fool for punting on that 4th-and-inches up by 23.
It’s results driven. You get the result, you get the praise for having the stones (see Payton in the Super Bowl). You get a bad spot, and you look like an idiot to others (see 4th-And-2).

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by insertscreenname on Mar 6, 2011 6:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Straight back into the field of play,

Where all the Jag players were standing. No coach would have told him to do that. Most coaches would tell you to get it in your hands, and then get on the ground, if there’s no-one around you.

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by insertscreenname on Mar 6, 2011 6:12 PM CST up reply actions  

They say to knock it down, and he really had nowhere else to knock it down

It probably would have been better for him to try to intercept it. I guess that’s what happens when you’re the Texans.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 6, 2011 6:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Jeez, come on dude.

His point is, most teams are willing to simply sit on their lead after it’s become out of reach. I’d say being up by 30+ points in the 4th quarter would qualify as out of reach wouldn’t you?

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Mar 6, 2011 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

And some sit on a 21 point lead with two minutes to go and lose.

Giants-Eagles last season, or did you forget?

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by Comedic.Sans on Mar 7, 2011 1:59 AM CST up reply actions  

(remembers the misfortunes of NY fans)

(smiles evilly)

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 7, 2011 2:05 AM CST up reply actions  

It's a good thing that you're not representative of Packers fans...

Because I was legitimately upset when Rodgers had that fumbleception to Karlos Dansby to lose a playoff game. Seems an anticlimactic way to go out.

Keeping it classy, dude.

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by Comedic.Sans on Mar 7, 2011 2:10 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Thank you

I still enjoyed that SB immensely, but you have put a face of humanity on Patriot fans. It’s too bad that you’re not representative of Patriot fans.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 7, 2011 2:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Given the fact I was invited to be a blogger at a Pats site, it seems I AM representative to an extent.

Good try, though.

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by Comedic.Sans on Mar 7, 2011 2:23 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

That just tells me that you are the ideal of how they want to be represented

Which, I can see why. You are largely a polite person with good writing qualities. That doesn’t mean that you are like all the rest (or even most) of Patriot fans.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 7, 2011 11:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Considering

without that DeSean Jackson punt return, we might not have even GOTTEN to the Super Bowl this year…yeah. It was arrogant to run across the field with time expired. It was classless. And for some reason…I couldn’t smile enough.

It was still pretty sweet to clobber that NY team into the dust the week afterwards (45-17).

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 7, 2011 2:12 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't know why people act like that game affected the Packers positioning at all

We would have held the tie-breaker against Philadelphia (even assuming that they beat the Cowboys in the game they didn’t try in). It would have changed where we played, but we’d still have been the 6 seed.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 7, 2011 2:16 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

There were a lot of 'ifs' this season...

If…
- Calvin Johnson doesn’t drop the ball in the end zone, the Bears lose.
- The Packers don’t commit 19 penalties, the Bears lose.
- If the Packers don’t lose Aaron Rodgers for 1.5 games, maybe we win one of those games.
-The Packers have a healthy roster, they most likely don’t have to battle for a wild card.

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by mike_o on Mar 7, 2011 2:22 AM CST up reply actions  

And if we don't have a wild card

maybe we DON’T make the Super Bowl.

Um, I think I’ll have reality. The one where the Packers won it all this year.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 7, 2011 2:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, screw the Eagles and DeSean Jackson.

The Packers owe NOBODY.

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by mike_o on Mar 7, 2011 2:37 AM CST up reply actions  

We have a wild card regardless of the outcome of the Phi-NYG game

If the Giants win that game:
NYG 11-5 (div winner)
Phi 9-7

Even if Philly wins out (not a sure thing) the best they’d have finished was 10-6, which GB would have held the tiebreaker over them based on our win week one.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 7, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

That's a bit extreme, TSSC.

Westboro Baptist Church? That’s some sheer hate.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 6, 2011 12:28 AM CST up reply actions  

My votes.

-2 for the following: Patriots, Jets, Eagles, and Giants.
-1 for the following: Cowboys, Buccaneers, and Raiders.

Reasons:
Patriots: It is impossible to like them at all. Their fans went from long-suffering to insufferable in a heartbeat. I’ve had more issues with Patriots fans than any other fans. After our game at NE, a Patriots fan tried getting a rise out of me. When it became apparent I wasn’t reacting how he wanted, he told me I was against America, a coward, called me a tool, said I cheered for bad teams, told me I needed to get a life, and more of that. I threatened to file charges against him shortly thereafter.

Jets: Rex, ugh, can’t like them. You could fit 10,000 Big Macs into his mouth when he opens it.

Eagles: Philly fans are the only fans I’ve nearly gotten into a fight with at Wrigley Field. Add to this the snowball throwing escapade, booing Santa, projectile-vomiting on a little girl, and causing $2k in damage to a Packers fan’s car. And yes, I can’t really forget 4th and 26.

Giants: Not quite as bad as Patriots fans, but NFC CG 2007 will take a while to get past. I rubbed the 45-17 drubbing in the face of several Giants fans here. Every time I saw them after that game, I showed them Packers gear, or said “GO PACKERS!” or “How bout ’dem Packers?”

Cowboys: “America’s Team”. ’Nuff said.

Buccaneers: Yeah, Warren Sapp, it was a legal hit on Chad Clifton.

Raiders: I hear most of the crap about their fans from San Diego Chargers fans. Apparently, whenever the Raiders lose in San Diego, their fans trash Qualcomm Stadium. I know of Chargers season ticket holders who refuse to go to those games. Nearly half the San Diego Police Department gets stationed at Qualcomm for Raiders-Chargers games. Fights break out all over the stadium and most of the language would be risky in a NC-17-rated movie. A few years ago, a Raiders fan even pulled out a pocketknife and stabbed a Chargers fan.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 8:46 AM CST reply actions  

Getting a little crazy with the votes there

Gonna have to find a way to spread that hate out over a week or so.

by wibrownguy on Mar 5, 2011 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Whoa, Chief

You get -2 per day. You’ve got -11 there. Let me know which 2 you want for today, I’m not counting anything yet

A few years ago, a Raiders fan even pulled out a pocketknife and stabbed a Chargers fan.

That’s hardly an isolated incident….

btw, what are the 3 state high point counts? I’ve been to SD (7,244 ft) & TX (8,751 ft)

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by Wiedmann on Mar 5, 2011 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Whoops.

-2 to NE, then.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Here you go.

Vermont, Massachusetts, New Hampshire.

Shouldn’t be too hard to guess which one was toughest to hike up and down.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

You should take a road trip through the midwest.

You could knock off a dozen high points in a weekend. Most of them are 5 minute walks from the road.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 5, 2011 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah,

I can imagine, having lived out in Wisconsin.

Mount Washington is the first real animal I’ve ever been on. It’s on this list of the ten most dangerous mountains in the world, and I can understand why. It snowed just a few days before I went up the mountain on July 5 (yes, you read that right).

My pictures from that day. If any of you guys can add me on Facebook, feel free (just include your APC username).

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 8:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Not on Facebook

but those are some great pictures.

I notice the piling of rocks. I’ve heard that’s done in Iceland and I’ve seen it all over in Latin America. Anyone know if this is done elsewhere? I’m thinking this might be more common than I had first thought.

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by I voted for Kodos on Mar 5, 2011 9:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I've seen that before,

In hikes in the Rocky Mountains. So I can imagine it’s a good way of marking trails. Not only that, but there’s no pollution from piling rocks like that (as opposed to painting rectangles). Worse yet, if the paint wears out, the trail can be completely obscured and lost easily, especially at high altitudes above the tree line.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 9:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I've seen it on Isle Royale, Montana, Alaska, Switzerland and New Zealand too.

My assumption is that it’s a common practice just about everywhere you find stony hiking trails.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 5, 2011 9:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep.

I first saw it in Glacier NP in the mid-1990s. Mount Washington reminded me very strongly of those hikes.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 9:56 PM CST up reply actions  

That might be part of it,

But my feeling is that the main reason stone piles are made is to reduce pollution higher up on the mountains. The fact is, many ecosystems on the higher mountains are extremely fragile, almost a tundra-like ecosystem, and if you so much as step off the rock trail, you’re actually severely damaging plants that live up there.

I think that’s more why you see rock piles at altitudes which are that high, so it offers protection to the plants which need all the safety they can get.

I saw not only those two alpine ponds (which are at 5,000 feet), but also, as my group was ascending the final hill to the summit, I could look under the rocks and there was water underneath them. No doubt this was eventually going to form rivers like the one that cascades down the Ammonoosuc Ravine (that’s the trail I took up Mount Washington).

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 10:22 PM CST up reply actions  

From what I've heard

It’s used to make a wish. At least that’s what I was told down in Venezuela and Peru and Bolivia. But with my level of Spanish I have to fill in lots of holes with semi-educated guesses. And that’s what my girlfriend said about Iceland, too. But then again, we were foreign tourists, so they’ll tell us whatever might get them a tip. . . . The trail marker thing makes more sense in a practical manner, too. There aren’t a lot of cultural universals, though, so I was thinking maybe we had found one.

Or maybe it’s a combination of trail marker and wish maker: “I wish that I can find my way back safely.”

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 6, 2011 12:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Piles of rocks

to mark a trail are called cairns. I have also read that in some places in the world they are called ducks. But cairns is the term I learned hiking in the Rocky Mountains. They also have many different uses and meanings around the world, but in North America they are mostly used to mark trails.

One summer I was climbing Crestone Needle here in Colorado. Most of Colorado’s 14ers can be hiked to the summit, but Crestone Needle actually involves some climbing. I didn’t know that beforehand. We had been hiking for awhile, and then reached a point where we were baffled about where to go next. We were overlooking a flat area about 10 feet below us that we could get to, but we couldn’t see where we would go after that.

Finally, we noticed that someone had used rocks to form a giant arrow that pointed the way up a mostly flat, sheer face. We just looked at each other like, “You’ve gotta be kidding me!” But we climbed on and finally made the summit with about 5 minutes of clear skies before the weather rolled in. Without the arrow, we probably would have turned back.

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by Ben T on Mar 7, 2011 8:55 AM CST up reply actions  

-2 ATL

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 5, 2011 10:02 AM CST reply actions  

It's a shame they're still in the "neutral" pool

Yes, you can say that a + vote for the Falcons is a – vote for the deceased Vikings, but in reality, that was one game that happened over a decade ago. While I don’t let that little fact get in my way of reminding Vikings fans about that game (at opportune times), I still can’t bear to see such huge bandwagoners go unpunished.

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by Clutch16 on Mar 5, 2011 10:06 AM CST up reply actions  

I gave the Falcons a +1 vote

but I only planned on doing that once. The 98 championship game warranted a positive vote all on its own, but just one. I agreet there are reasons to hate the Falcons from now on.

by wibrownguy on Mar 5, 2011 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Giving John Elway a 2nd Super Bowl cancels that out...

>.<

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by mike_o on Mar 5, 2011 10:17 AM CST up reply actions  

-2 COWBOYS

"I haven't been out carousing." -Aaron Rodgers

by gavitron9 on Mar 5, 2011 10:17 AM CST reply actions  

-1 Eagles

Their fans really come across as horrible people.

And 4th and 26th doesn’t help.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 5, 2011 10:23 AM CST reply actions  

-1 Broncos

This goes all the way back to the Super Bowl loss. And to John Elway. And for making so many previous Super Bowls so uncompetitive as to be unwatchable.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 5, 2011 10:25 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah, I'm with you, but I had to hit the Patriots first.

I’ll get to the Broncos soon, particularly my disdain for Elway and Romanowski.

And I see you hiding over there Mr. Vick. Don’t think I’ve forgotten that you should still be in prison.

So much hate, so little time.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 5, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Romanowski!

Of course! How could I forget him?

Now I’m starting to think I should have gone -2 Broncos. Well, tomorrow’s another day.

As for Vick: he went from being my favorite-non Packer since Barry Sanders to being my most-hated NFL player. Animals are like children in that they are defenseless and they don’t even understand what’s going on, and that’s why what he did was so heinous, even if it wasn’t done to humans.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 5, 2011 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, he should be in prison.

I won’t go as far as that psycho, Mark Buehrle, and say that he should be dead, but Vick should definitely be rotting away in prison.

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by mike_o on Mar 5, 2011 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm feeling particularily hateful to the Broncos today: -2 Broncos

Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."

by GoGregGo on Mar 5, 2011 11:11 AM CST reply actions  

+2 Patriots

Because without them, there is no…

TAWWMY FROM QUINZEE! YO-AH PACKAHS COULD NAWT BEAT MY-AH PATS! NO ONE DENIES THIS!

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by Mitchell Maurer on Mar 5, 2011 11:58 AM CST reply actions  

It's coming, TSSC.

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by Mitchell Maurer on Mar 5, 2011 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha.

No, it’s fine, leave it alone. I just wanted an excuse to post Tawwmy.

Go ahead and axe the Patriots whenever they’re up.

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by Mitchell Maurer on Mar 6, 2011 6:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Flagged.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

You dare flag ME?!?!

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by Mitchell Maurer on Mar 5, 2011 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes. Yes he does.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 5, 2011 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Jk.

But still, everyone should give the Patriots -2 until they have no points at all.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 7:20 PM CST up reply actions  

VCF, not EVERYONE has a, er, your pathological hate of the Patriots...

I hate all things Dallas (with the exception of Devin Harris! He was there for a while).

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 5, 2011 7:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't...

I love me some LaMarcus Aldridge and Deron Williams.

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by mike_o on Mar 5, 2011 7:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Clarification

I hate all things Dallas Cowboy-related.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 5, 2011 7:52 PM CST up reply actions  

True,

But not everyone has to live around them like I do. Some days fans from Boston get really nasty.

On more than one occasion, they’ve nearly reduced me to tears, and I don’t normally show much emotion.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Check your email.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 5, 2011 8:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Got it.

Response sent…

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 5, 2011 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

-2 Geldings

"Believe me Delmar, woman is the most fiendish instrument of torture ever devised to bedevil the days of man."

by Ben T on Mar 5, 2011 1:22 PM CST reply actions  

I'm counting this as -2 Broncos

I’ll change it if you meant Colts.

13.

by Wiedmann on Mar 6, 2011 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry about yesterday.

I didn’t quite understand this (it’s new to me), but now I get it.

Check below for my vote.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2011 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I really, really, really hate Rex Ryan. I mean really hate him

by ssjumandeal on Mar 5, 2011 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I might be in the minority on this one

but I don’t mind Rex Ryan. The two things he has going for him are that he has true passion and that In terms of likeability he’s certainly 50 times more likeable than Bill Belichick.

by wibrownguy on Mar 6, 2011 12:17 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't really mind Belichick or the Patriots,

For a hate thread I can’t seem t work up much hate.

by ssjumandeal on Mar 6, 2011 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

I like Ryan. I think his attitude/cockiness fires his guys up to play, and gets them to really believe in themselves. He’s pretty funny too.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Mar 6, 2011 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I like Sexy Rexy too

The foot fetish thing was funny and at least made him seem somewhat human (if a bit on the kinky side).

He does talk a lot but like others have said, its what works for his guys and works in NY, a market that feeds on that. Would I want him in GB? Hell no! He wouldn’t work here. But he’s ok.

Also don’t hate Belichik. I think he’s an evil genius and a great coach. He knows how to play other teams, amass picks, draft well, and run his team the way he wants to or you’re out! I like his style.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 6, 2011 10:03 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

-1 BRONCOS -1 RAIDERS

Take that Al Davis. And Kyle Orton.

I gots to put the team on my back, doo.

by BlackPack-fan on Mar 5, 2011 5:26 PM CST reply actions  

Kyle Orton?

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 5, 2011 6:41 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

-2 Bucs

"They’re good players. They’re basically all the same guy, except for Jordy Nelson is Caucasian."

--Ryan Clark, Pittsburgh S, on the Green Bay receivers

by Kuhl on Mar 5, 2011 11:22 PM CST reply actions  

- 2 Bucs

For the cheap shot Sapp took a couple of years back.

by ShawnH on Mar 5, 2011 11:25 PM CST reply actions  

-2 Cowboys

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 6, 2011 12:05 AM CST reply actions  

-1 Cowboys, -1 Seacocks.

I was going to use both votes for Dallas today, but this one poster on PoD had a great new nickname for the Seachickens/Seaturkeys… Seacocks. So, one kill for those annoying mofos from the Emerald City.

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by mike_o on Mar 6, 2011 12:05 AM CST reply actions  

-1 Cowboys, -1 Broncos

Cowboys: For the first 75% of the 1990’s.
Broncos: Because SB XXXII sucked. Because I always hated John Elway, even before SB XXXII. Because of those fugly orange unis from the 70’s and 80’s. Because when I was a kid I decided I didn’t like them (can’t say I remember having a good reason at the time) and I never grew out of it.

by wibrownguy on Mar 6, 2011 12:08 AM CST reply actions  

-1 Cowboys

Even though TSSC was able to sway my vote yesterday, my hatred of the Cowboys has returned. I had a flashback of that annoying commercial he did with Deion Sanders and remembered that he seems to be the most aggressive owner at out-pricing the average fan in favor of the corporate/big money “fans” who occupy the boxes.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 6, 2011 12:15 AM CST reply actions  

-1 Redskins

While I’m hating on teams for their owners I’ve got to go with Dan Snyder’s team. While hatred for Snyder is mitigated by the knowledge that he’s perennially screwing up his team, it still isn’t enough to overcome his disdain for the common fan.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 6, 2011 12:16 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah I'm going to be getting around to some Redskins hate soon

But I think the Cowboys need to die first. As for the skins, I’ve got my own personal reasons for sending some hate their way in the coming days.

by wibrownguy on Mar 6, 2011 12:19 AM CST up reply actions  

+2 Cardinals

Because I live in Phx and they suck again.

And I like Fitz.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 6, 2011 2:52 AM CST reply actions  

And you can't forget that time they knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs

and gave the division to GB. That was epic. From division winners against an easy Cardinal team , to not even making the playoffs and watching your rival take the division. Rodney Poole was a hero that day.

Another classic Viking meltdown when it mattered.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 6, 2011 2:53 AM CST up reply actions   3 recs

The Highlights

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MZIajExnMI

Its a bit long, but just watching the entire self destruction of the Vikings is so gratifying. Amazing….

And my mistake, its Nate Poole, not Rodney Poole.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 6, 2011 3:01 AM CST up reply actions  

So awesome.

I know they knocked us out of the playoffs in 2010, but hey… we bounced back and won the Super Bowl this year. They deserved those 2-3 good years with Warner after all those years of suffering.

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by mike_o on Mar 6, 2011 3:10 AM CST up reply actions  

I wanted ARI to win SB XLIII

Not for any anti-Pittsburgh reason, but because they had never even been to a SB and I wanted them to win it for the decades of suffering their fans have endured.

by wibrownguy on Mar 7, 2011 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Screw the Cardinals

Bidwill’s getting what he deserves for his family stealing the title from the Pottsville Maroons.

13.

by Wiedmann on Mar 7, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

-2 Chargers

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by Clutch16 on Mar 6, 2011 2:57 AM CST reply actions  

Because Norv Turner, that's why.

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"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 6, 2011 2:57 AM CST up reply actions  

-2 Philly

for Philly fans vandalizing that Packer fans car during the wild card game this year

by AaronR on Mar 6, 2011 6:39 AM CST reply actions  

-1 Redskins -1 Cowboys

This is the all sell out edition of hate for me. Cowboys because they are the closest thing to a corporate team in the NFL.

As for the Redskins?

Well let me give you a quote from the Cranky Redskins Fan’s Guide to Dan Snyder:

“Hill, Pat: Down-on-her-luck 73-year-old grandmother—and five-decade Redskins season-ticketholder—who was sued by the Redskins in 2009 because she could not afford to keep up payments on the 10-year, $50,000-plus club seats contract she’d signed.”

by PackApologist on Mar 6, 2011 9:58 AM CST reply actions  

Heard

The Chad Dukes rant after the Eagles blowout last season?

"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West

by insertscreenname on Mar 6, 2011 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Listening to this now.

This is awesome.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2011 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Heard parts of it before

Listened to it again today….all I can say is “Get ’em”

by PackApologist on Mar 6, 2011 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Get 'em.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2011 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

-2 Patriots

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 6, 2011 10:09 AM CST reply actions  

-1 Colts, -1 Giants

For all those damn TV ads with 1 or more Manning in it!

by Zundar on Mar 6, 2011 12:34 PM CST reply actions  

I was hoping to save my Patriots* selection to be the knockout blow

but, looks like that will have to wait for another day. So, -2.

13.

by Wiedmann on Mar 6, 2011 2:28 PM CST reply actions  

-2 Cowgirls

"I haven't been out carousing." -Aaron Rodgers

by gavitron9 on Mar 6, 2011 4:14 PM CST reply actions  

Excellent choice

Allright folks, I hate the Patriots and everything, but seriously, the Cowboys need to be killed first. The Pats aren’t even in our conference and I can’t think of anytime the Packers have been seriously wronged by them. One regular season game every four years doesn’t count for much. We play the Cowboys more frequently and they repeatedly dashed our hopes in the playoffs in the 90’s. I’ll be as happy as anyone when the Pats are gone, but the Boys need to be killed first.

by wibrownguy on Mar 6, 2011 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

We'll see

It looks like it’s coming down to the wire.

13.

by Wiedmann on Mar 6, 2011 6:39 PM CST up reply actions  

The APC sniper awaits...

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by mike_o on Mar 6, 2011 7:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Meh.

I’d have pulled the trigger on that vote in 96 or so, be we’ve eaten their lunch a few times since then so I just can’t get worked up about it anymore.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 6, 2011 7:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Flagged.

Especially after seeing Matty ‘Lukewarm’ in the commercial prior to the video…

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by mike_o on Mar 6, 2011 11:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Meh, redux.

I mean, it sucks to lose, but we’ve given them more reason to hate us lately than they’ve given us to hate them.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 7, 2011 12:21 AM CST up reply actions  

-1 Colts and -1 Ravens

for what they did to their longstanding fans in Baltimore and Cleveland.

That glass is flowing over!

"It's a great day to be great, baby!"

"Here I am, brain the size of a planet, and they ask me to pick up a piece of paper. You call that job satisfaction? 'Cause, I don't."

THE BEARS STILL SUCK!

by NorthStarr on Mar 6, 2011 7:59 PM CST reply actions  

-2 Cowboys

I have another axe to grind, but I’ll save that for tomorrow.

"This is a football." "Slow down, coach! You're goin' too fast!"

by Cool Hand on Mar 6, 2011 8:26 PM CST reply actions  

Aside to Wiedmann

When you update the standings at the top, could you add a timestamp? We’ve got two contenders circling the drain, and it would be nice to know if they’ve already been wiped out while you were off banging movie stars.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 6, 2011 11:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Good idea

They currently are up to date, and the future updates will have an indicator of when they were made. No movie stars for me tonight, I’ve been far too ill for that.

13.

by Wiedmann on Mar 7, 2011 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

-2 Cowboys

Now somebody can finish ’em off

by wibrownguy on Mar 7, 2011 12:01 AM CST reply actions  

-2 Cowboys

Jerry Jones, corporate team, etc. etc.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 7, 2011 12:02 AM CST reply actions  

Woooooo!

All apologies to TSSC, he made the best arguments for not hating the Cowboys I’ve ever heard. But I can’t let them last longer than the Patriots. Not the way Jerry Jones runs that team. Not with the way he seems intent on turning the NFL into the MLB, where small market teams are essentially farm clubs for the bigger markets. I don’t think the Packers could survive if Jerry Jones ran the NFL, and for that I have to hate him.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 7, 2011 12:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe

He couldn’t be any worse, I guess. But Jones’ ego is so big and so obvious I can see it from my backyard. At any rate, Kraft couldn’t possibly be any more annoying in Jones in the process of ruining the NFL.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 7, 2011 12:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Over your head, man.

Kraft DEFINITELY has ethics.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 7, 2011 12:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Not only that...

It’s the sense of entitlement that they have. They feel that because they wear that star on their helmet, that they deserve to be showered with attention from the media and to be Super Bowl favorites every year. Obnoxious mofos…

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by mike_o on Mar 7, 2011 12:11 AM CST up reply actions  

I think our graveyard podium is the way it was meant to be:

The most-hated medals have been awarded. Gold to the Queens, Silver to the Bears, Bronze to the Cowgirls. This is just.

by wibrownguy on Mar 7, 2011 12:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Aw, lucky..

You got the killshot.

Drag ’em down to the graveyard, Wiedmann.

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B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 7, 2011 12:03 AM CST up reply actions  

To each his own I guess...

… the Cowboys are too pathetic to get me to hate them anymore. Even in the years that they’re decent, they’re about as likely to win a title as the Lions. All you have to do is wait around for the melt down and then point and laugh.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 7, 2011 12:24 AM CST up reply actions  

And laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh

I’m still not done hating them for the nineties.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 7, 2011 12:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, but if you give up your hate because

you think a team can’t win it all, then you have to give up your hatred of the Bears and the Vikings. And I’m sorry, but I’m just not ready to do that.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 7, 2011 12:41 AM CST up reply actions  

That's assuming that the Cowboys and Vikings are similiarly situated in other ways...

… and they’re not. The Cowboys are only in GB’s way when they’re good, because otherwise we likely aren’t playing them every year. Obviously that’s not the case with division rivals.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 7, 2011 7:06 AM CST up reply actions  

If you're talking about voting for the Pats over the Cowboys...

I don’t understand it. You might hate them for the Spygate thing, for Brady, Belichick, but they haven’t really done much to Green Bay. Brady’s beaten us a few times in the regular season, but we beat New England when it mattered (SB XXXI). The Cowboys knocked us out of the playoffs several times in the 90’s, plus they’re the most annoying team in the NFL.

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by mike_o on Mar 7, 2011 12:43 AM CST up reply actions  

It's just a different way of thinking about things.

I dislike teams for what they’ve done to GB at times, but it has to be recent for that to be a big hangup for me. Most of the time I hate teams because they’re in our way every year (division rivals) or because I don’t like how they do things, or because they’ve got a current player or front office guy that’s a POS.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 7, 2011 7:09 AM CST up reply actions  

-2 Broncos

"This is a football." "Slow down, coach! You're goin' too fast!"

by Cool Hand on Mar 7, 2011 12:13 AM CST reply actions  

-2 Colts.

“Waaaahh!! The refs didn’t call the penalty I wanted!! WAAAAAHHH!!!”

-Peyton Manning. That is all.

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by mike_o on Mar 7, 2011 12:17 AM CST reply actions  

OK mike_o, I've got to know:

Are you the guy on Yahoo! who signs all of you comments with “Tim Tebow sucks. That is all.”? Just curious.

by wibrownguy on Mar 7, 2011 12:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Yahoo?

/vomit.

Absolutely not!

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 7, 2011 12:22 AM CST up reply actions  

-2 PIT

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 7, 2011 12:20 AM CST reply actions  

I say this not because I hate the folks over at BtSC

But if I had to tally up ignorant-ass fans who couldn’t name a player on their favorite team even if they took off their jersey and looked at the back, the Steelers would probably have more than anyone else combined. Knock ’em down.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 7, 2011 12:24 AM CST up reply actions  

I must admit

There are certainly a couple of Steeler fans I know who fall into that category. The only players they can identify are Roethlisberger and Ward. But even with that being the case, I still have a lot of respect for Pittsburgh.

by wibrownguy on Mar 7, 2011 12:29 AM CST up reply actions  

That would do it for them, no?

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 7, 2011 12:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep

I was waiting for TSSC to post so I could end them.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 7, 2011 12:26 AM CST up reply actions  

"It's going... back back back back back back... and... gone!

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by mike_o on Mar 7, 2011 12:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Congratulations.

I was briefly hoping we could sneak Denver into the graveyard first, but no such luck.

Once the Broncos go, all the truly obvious candidates will be in the graveyard…and I think that’s where this game will really get interesting.

"This is a football." "Slow down, coach! You're goin' too fast!"

by Cool Hand on Mar 7, 2011 12:29 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm still shocked the Niners and Giants aren't further down

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 7, 2011 12:30 AM CST up reply actions  

There were bigger fish to fry

I think we’ll see them start to descend more quickly now.

by wibrownguy on Mar 7, 2011 12:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Checking the graveyards

MCM: 9 teams
POD: 2
BBV: 3
HH: 1
BtSC: 1
APC: 4

Concentrated hate seems to be the key. After the Broncos go, we’ll have a few other obvious targets (NYG, SF, TB, PHI), but after that? We’ll probably get halfway through a Part II thread before anyone else takes a dirt nap.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 7, 2011 12:40 AM CST up reply actions  

What surprises me more

is that there are still only 6 hate threads going on the SB Nation NFL team blogs. I thought it would have spread to more by now, especially considering how fun this is!

by wibrownguy on Mar 7, 2011 12:41 AM CST up reply actions  

I could tip off some of the WCG guys who post on Bleed Cubbie Blue

But other than that, I don’t swim in a lot of other SBN NFL blog sites. Maybe OBSIMH could get PP going…

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 7, 2011 12:44 AM CST up reply actions  

You appear to have pissed off one or two of their posters

Of course, what are they gonna do once the Jets and Giants are gone?

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 7, 2011 1:00 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Good, fuck 'em.

At least I know how to read & spell (it’s Wiedmann, not Weidmann).

They banned me for saying that Unitas was a better QB than Brady. I guess since it is a “pulpit” any opinion which does not follow their crooked scripture needs to be banished. They’re so cocky, acting like they’re God’s gift to football, but they still have fewer titles than the Lions. Whatever. They’re eliminated here (partly due to their fanbase), so let’s have no more mention of those Massholes.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 7, 2011 1:10 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

It's a bit amusing how they want to hold you morally responsible for all the hate threads

And the high-horseyness of a couple of their fans claiming they’re “above” hating other teams makes me want to vomit. Please, I think we all know the difference between hating a sports team and true hate. Well at least most of their fans seem to realize this is harmless fun and are playing along on their thread.

by wibrownguy on Mar 7, 2011 1:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, I think they realize they'll never have as many titles as us

So, they try to beat us in other ways. Evidently being a f***wit is one area where they have a leg up:

As long as the idea didn’t come from the packers blog. There are a few f**kwits over there.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 7, 2011 1:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Wow...

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by mike_o on Mar 7, 2011 1:30 AM CST up reply actions  

You know

you have to do SOMETHING to get banned from Pats Pulpit. In your case, you got banned for being a troll. Contrary to your opinion, you didn’t get banned because of your inane Brady/Unitas comments. You got banned for saying something pretty damn inflammatory.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 7, 2011 1:57 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

If you say so......

I do know my comment about Unitas was deleted, and it was far from inflammatory. This is essentially what I said:
“Brady’s not the best QB ever. That would be Johnny Unitas.” I may have mentioned the greatest streak in football (the 47 consecutive games with a TD pass), but there was absolutely nothing which any sane person would call objectionable, let alone inflammatory.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 7, 2011 2:06 AM CST up reply actions  

When you were banned

every comment you made on PP was deleted. It’s something that can happen to anyone, not just you.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 7, 2011 2:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Considering I only made 3 posts & none were inflammatory

The Unitas post was the “worst” of the 3 (because evidently I somehow did not buy into the ridiculous notion that Brady is the best QB ever).

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by Wiedmann on Mar 7, 2011 2:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Uh huh.

That’s not what you got banned for, and you know it.

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by Comedic.Sans on Mar 7, 2011 2:22 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

come on.

"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West

by insertscreenname on Mar 7, 2011 8:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Brady isn’t even the best QB in the game today.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Mar 7, 2011 6:07 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I think we're very fortunate

that Rodgers has matured into the player he is. I assume that’s who you’re talking about, right?

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 7, 2011 6:26 PM CST up reply actions  

This is the last post I will make on this subject, here.

Tom Brady was a unanimous MVP winner for putting together a regular season that was insane in retrospect. He had a ridiculous streak as far as not throwing an interception. But in the playoffs? Brady pressed. He made some bad decisions, and he was a big factor as far as the Pats getting bounced in the divisional round. But he was definitely the best QB in the regular season, and his record, his stats, his decisions, reflected that.

Remember, Rodgers made some big mistakes early in the year. He was sacked 5 times and threw a pick in the loss to Miami. He got sacked 4 more times and threw another pick in the loss to Washington. Rodgers wasn’t perfect by any means, but he got going at exactly the right time to get the Packers into the Super Bowl and win it.

For the record: Peyton Manning threw 17 interceptions. Drew Brees 22. Eli Manning 25. It’s safe to say none of them were better than Rodgers this season.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 7, 2011 6:39 PM CST up reply actions  

So, that's the route you guys taking now?

5 years ago, Pats fans were saying that Manning was a better QB in the regular season, but it was Brady’s excellence in the playoffs that made him better. Now, after 3 consecutive playoff losses, Brady is the best because he has had a great regular season.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 7, 2011 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

way to NOT read what I just said

I’m not SAYING anyone’s the best overall. That’s just flamebait.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 7, 2011 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Okay, true

You didn’t say it.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 7, 2011 7:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't remember saying that.

Ever.

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by insertscreenname on Mar 7, 2011 8:37 PM CST up reply actions  

No Pats fan (or Brady fan)

Has ever said in any way Manning is better than Brady. Regular season or otherwise.
Forgetting that you posted on PP with either “cheat” or “*” is not the same.

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by insertscreenname on Mar 7, 2011 11:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I phrased it incorrectly

I meant that any regular season success by Manning was discounted by Patriots* fans because he had limited success in the postseason. I didn’t mean that Patriots* fans ever spoke well of Manning. I apologize for the misunderstanding.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 7, 2011 11:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Eh,

It might have been something like Manning has slightly superior regular season stats (not by much until 04, but then Brady had a better 07), and then craps his pants in the playoffs.

Since 07, Brady is 2-3 in the playoffs. Manning, 2-4. Rodgers, 4-1 through 2 seasons. If I remember correctly, Brady was 6-0 through 2 playoff runs, and is still 14-5 overall. Let Rodgers play another 14 playoff games to get level with the other 2, then we’ll see.

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by insertscreenname on Mar 8, 2011 12:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Let me just start off by saying Brady is great. He doesn’t make a whole lot of mistakes like you pointed out and he’s ridiculously accurate.

But I don’t think he’s of the same caliber that Peyton Manning is, and frankly, I don’t think anybody ever has been. From a cerebral standpoint, I don’t anyone comes close to what Manning is able to do. The way he comes up to the line, and literally points out who is coming and who is doing what is ridiculous.

I think part of what makes Brady look so great is Belicheck and the offenses he designs. Manning basically is his own offensive coordinator. He’s basically like the HC of the Colts, or at least the coach of the offense.

Now, I realize people will say, “Well Brady has more rings.” My response will be, “Yes, he does but football is a TEAM game.” Brady has had more talented teams around. And I’m not just talking about the skill positions. Brady’s offensive line’s have been superior to Manning’s, as has his defenses. Brady also usually has a running game to rely on, while Manning has not. Teams can play their two saftey’s deep against the Colts and still shut down their running game. The same cannot be said for the Patriots.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Mar 7, 2011 8:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Brady vs. Manning

It’s hard to say who’s really better. I think we can agree that Brady has the better coach, but he also makes fewer mistakes. Manning gets lots of credit for his calls at the line, but we really don’t know what he’s optioning out of, so we really don’t know how often he made the right call. Brady has more rings but it’s a team game.

In the end it’s all just opinion and no one is ever going to prove themselves right or anyone else wrong.

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by I voted for Kodos on Mar 8, 2011 12:40 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Well said.

I guess it takes someone truly (for all appearances) impartial to point it out – everyone else has some vested interest in the matter.

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by insertscreenname on Mar 8, 2011 4:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm impartial

and my opinion is that Brady is the best QB right now. Manning does amazing things, but sometimes I wonder if he overthinks and creates more complexity than is really there. Manning is great, but I just love watching Brady. He’s like the Jedi of QBs — so calm under pressure, he just looks so fluid using his feet to move around the pocket like there is no hurry whatsoever. From an aesthetic standpoint, there is no comparison — Manning dances around so much he looks like he needs to pee.

I hope we are witnessing Aaron Rodgers emerge as the next Tom Brady. I see AR’s play looking more like Brady than Manning, and I think that’s a very good thing.

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by Ben T on Mar 8, 2011 8:49 AM CST up reply actions  

...

I have to disagree; Aaron Rodgers is Aaron Rodgers, not Brady or Manning. They’re three completely different animals, in my opinion.

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by mike_o on Mar 8, 2011 9:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Dude...

what are you disagreeing with? I said AR’s play looks more like Brady than Manning. I didn’t say AR is a carbon copy of Brady. His ability to run alone sets him apart from both of those guys, but that doesn’t mean he cannot play more like one than the other.

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by Ben T on Mar 8, 2011 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

He's disagreeing with the...
I hope we are witnessing Aaron Rodgers emerge as the next Tom Brady

We know what you meant but it can also be construed that we want a reincarnation of Tom Brady in GB. I think its still a bitter subject (Rodgers is the next So-and-so) because until this year (and probably into the future by some) we had to hear how he is/isn’t the next Favre.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 8, 2011 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Brady is pretty much a statue

The guy if you want a comparison would be Young

by the yooper on Mar 8, 2011 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Rodgers can run.

Brady couldn’t outrun a glacier.

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by insertscreenname on Mar 8, 2011 6:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Well said. I’m just of the opinion that Manning is better. I certainly can understand why some would say Brady though.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Mar 8, 2011 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I disagree about the players around them

To me Manning has had by far the better offensive players around him. 2 recievers that will at least be considered for the HOF and he’s always had a great tight end. Also he’s had great RB,s Faulk, Edgerin, the current couple are’nt bad. His Oline has been pretty special at keeping him upright for almost his whole career. He looked pretty mortal this year when they were hit by injuries.

Brady on the otherhand has taken some pretty pedestrian recievers and had some pretty spectacular seasons. The 2 previous seasons to this one where he had Moss and Welker at the top of their game would I say he had a above average WR corps. Branch went to Seattle looked like a bum got back with Brady made him look like a allstar.

I don’t want to knock on Peyton I just don’t agree Brady had more talent around him. Except for defense

by the yooper on Mar 8, 2011 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t disagree with that. Manning has had the better skill player talent around him but not offensive line in my opinion. I think Peyton has been pretty special at keeping himself upright because of his mental clock.

Brady really has had two “spectacular” seasons. This past season and in 2007. All of his other seasons are good but not anything out of this world.
 
 Since 2003, I think Manning has consistently been the best QB in the league. If there’s one thing you know going into every season, it’s Manning will probably throw at least 30 TDs, and around half as many INTs.

This season he looked more human but it’s also important to remember that he threw for 4,700 yards, 33 TDs compared to 17 INTs, and had a completion percentage of 66%. That’s pretty remarkable, especially when you consider that the Colts were down their top 3 RB’s, and 4 of their 5 best receiving targets for much of the season. The offensive line was dinged up too, and even when it is healthy, it’s nothing more then a middle of the road unit.

Like I said, I understand why some like Brady more then Manning. I personally just think Manning is better.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Mar 9, 2011 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

No, I’m talking about Peyton Manning. And I didn’t say best QB “this season”, I said best QB of today.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Mar 7, 2011 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

The Colts were almost our opposite number as far as injuries and record are concerned. Losing Dallas Clark was devastating.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 7, 2011 8:17 PM CST up reply actions  

That's the generic option box that you tick when someone's banned

“Ban. Tick. Delete all comments. Tick”.

It’s not like he added anything interesting or pertinent before he tried trolling. Generic ‘cheating’ insults straight after a loss when you’ve never contributed anything, ever, is garden variety trolling and got him banned after the third or fourth occurrence.

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by Comedic.Sans on Mar 7, 2011 2:22 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Am I the only one who wonders why all of his posts become recommended…?

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Mar 7, 2011 5:34 PM CST up reply actions   3 recs

It's pretty obvious what's going on there....

.. APC’s fault in part for setting the green bar so low.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 7, 2011 7:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Ask Brandon to change it, I imagine

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by Clutch16 on Mar 7, 2011 7:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't really care that much

I was just wondering if it was possible to change.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 7, 2011 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Wait a minute

He got banned for making trolling after 3 posts? None of which were inflammatory? Please tell me there’s more to it than that? Especially since there is absolutley nothing wrong with believing Unitas was better than Brady. And I would go look, but all of his posts are gone.

by Zundar on Mar 7, 2011 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

He got banned for posting

“guess the Pats can’t win without cheating” on PatsPulpit immediately after the 28-21 loss to the Jets.

If I had posted “guess the Steelers can’t win without getting help from the officials” on BTSC immediately after the game, I would have gotten my ass banned in fifteen seconds or less. You don’t do that. You just don’t.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 7, 2011 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks

I was hoping there was more to it. I would say that’s quite a bit more inflammatory than Unitas is better than Brady.

by Zundar on Mar 7, 2011 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't recall posting that

but, if that’s true, it makes it a little more understandable.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 7, 2011 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

That's one of the main reasons I don't want to join DN

or another site of a team I don’t like. I know when I’m in a bad mood I may go post something I shouldn’t and get myself banned.

by Zundar on Mar 7, 2011 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

But then

you’d be in the same position you are now — not a member of DN. I suppose it depends on whether you would wear the banning as a badge of honor or the scarlet letter.

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by Ben T on Mar 7, 2011 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

True

But I haven’t figured that one out yet.

by Zundar on Mar 7, 2011 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Go get yourself banned

All the cool APCers are doing it!

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by Wiedmann on Mar 7, 2011 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

That would kinda sting.

I do like talking to Ted Glover, after all…

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 7, 2011 5:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Really?

That’s it?

I’ve seen worse than that here without the banhammer dropping.

I try not to do that (I say try, because I’m pretty sure I did it to the Cubs fans at some point in 2008), but I haven’t gotten banned anywhere (except the Cards site, which I’ll admit I richly deserved for something worse than the above).

I’m not going to say it wasn’t a bannable offense because standards vary from site to site, but let’s not pretend like that’s soooooo over the line that there’s no room for disagreement.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 7, 2011 3:00 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

The point isn't how "bad" it is, and that's entirely subjective.

The point is timing. Had someone said “How about that fumble” to me immediately after the Rodgers fumble in the 09 WC game, I think I might have blown my stack.

Since then…I can’t get really worked up over a football game. Yes. We lost in horrific fashion, a fashion that should never have happened (HTF do you miss the guy’s fingers in Rodgers’s facemask?), but considering the disaster the team served up the year before (the 6-10 season) and the 08 Badgers served up (the craptastic 7-6 season)…I used up my wrath.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 7, 2011 7:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not saying it didn't piss people off...

… I’m saying that absent a history of trolling, I wouldn’t have hooked him for it. That’s all. I’ve seen exactly that kind of behavior on this site without the banhammer coming down, though they’re free to run their site the way they see fit.

I guess the self-righteous anger above from Comedic Sans made me think that we were talking about something so heinous that no one would blame them for giving him the heave ho. Instead it’s just Comedic Sans being completely unable to see anything other than his own perspective.

Again.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 8, 2011 10:27 PM CST up reply actions  

So you’re saying Comedic Sans is ‘sans perspective’?

I’m kind of wondering why a Patriots fan would choose to go to another team’s ‘hate thread’ and expect anything other than hatred for his team. I guess I’m saying that this is not the best place for a non-Packers fan to be arguing for his team.

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by I voted for Kodos on Mar 9, 2011 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

That's the Patriots dilemma

I don’t hate the team in any way, but the fans are a bit of a grind (and huge bandwagoners). I think this is a bit of a “most hated team/fan base”. I voted -1 Eagles earlier mostly based on fan base (though Vick was a bit of a factor).

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 7, 2011 1:46 AM CST up reply actions  

An excellent point

Hate is contagious like Spanish flu at the end of WWI. Yugoslavia, anyone?

Also, I don’t know what some of the above acronyms are: MCM, POD, and HH. I know BtSC is Behind the Steel Curtain, and BBV is Bel Biv Devoe (who do they hate? New Edition?), but I can’t figure out who the others are. Any help?

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by I voted for Kodos on Mar 7, 2011 12:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Music City Miracles, Pride of Detroit, Hogs Heaven. BBV is Big Blue View. Bel Biv Devoe is pretty funny though!

by wibrownguy on Mar 7, 2011 12:47 AM CST up reply actions  

As are Indy and the Jets.

J-E-T-S…. Jets Jets Jets Jets.

S-U-C-K. Suck Suck Suck Suck.

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by mike_o on Mar 7, 2011 12:32 AM CST up reply actions  

-2 Giants.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 7, 2011 12:34 AM CST reply actions  

- 1 Miami, -1 Washington

For the 2 loses that we should not have had this past season.

by ShawnH on Mar 7, 2011 1:12 AM CST reply actions  

Good cause, definitely.

And Miami fans for just being complacent and impossible to rouse. They have had issues selling out their stadium for a long, long time…

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 7, 2011 2:29 AM CST up reply actions  

-2 Philly

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

by AaronR on Mar 7, 2011 6:08 AM CST reply actions  

KC Chiefs +1 / NY Jets +1

KC: For being a non-division market competitor to the Min Vikings. Those markets cross over in places and the more the Chiefs pull doing well, the less whiny Vikings fans I have to listen to

NY: As noted above I actually like Sexy Rexy. And they knocked off the Colts and the Patriots in the playoffs this year. Not an easy feat and one worthy of at lease a single “+1” from me.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 7, 2011 6:21 AM CST reply actions  

New York Giants -2

I grew up in New Jersey. Giants fans are insufferable

by the-real-a-rod on Mar 7, 2011 6:33 AM CST reply actions  

-2 Broncos

I’m actually rather disappointed that the Patriots went before them…

Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."

by GoGregGo on Mar 7, 2011 7:35 AM CST reply actions  

-2 Broncos

me too

"Believe me Delmar, woman is the most fiendish instrument of torture ever devised to bedevil the days of man."

by Ben T on Mar 7, 2011 9:04 AM CST reply actions  

-2 Bucs

"They’re good players. They’re basically all the same guy, except for Jordy Nelson is Caucasian."

--Ryan Clark, Pittsburgh S, on the Green Bay receivers

by Kuhl on Mar 7, 2011 9:06 AM CST reply actions  

-1 Philly +1 Bucs

Pretty clear that Elway is going down next, plus always respected the Bucs teams of the late 90’s.

by msc32887 on Mar 7, 2011 11:00 AM CST reply actions  

+1 KC, -1 Rams

Getting into baseball mode. I’m a Royals fan so I have nothing to look forward to, so at least here I can take my frustrations out on the Cardinals being the much better team in Missouri.

Am I allowed to do this? Or do I need some football reasons?

by Zundar on Mar 7, 2011 11:32 AM CST reply actions  

Good

I’m trying to decide if tomorrow I want to take 2 pointa way from the Dolphins for playing in the same city as the Heat, or give them 2 points for not being the Heat…

by Zundar on Mar 7, 2011 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

-1 Dolphins -1 Broncos

Why the dolphins today? Because the 72 dolphins have been dicks for the better part of 40 years now. I think that franchise is in a constant state of paying back karma for every bottle of champange popped by those dillholes every time the last team loses a game each year.

The Broncos? Well whenever I picture them I just picture Elway’s stupid 360 in that SB we lost and the toothy grin that makes me want to punch him. Oh and how they’ve basically ran their franchise in the ground. On one hand it makes me chuckle, on the other it always pisses me off when a FO just dismantles a team on stupid roster moves. (The only exception to this is watching the Vikings Triangle of Stupid screw up and let that franchise slowly bleed out talent on that roster).

by PackApologist on Mar 7, 2011 12:26 PM CST reply actions  

it always pisses me off when a FO just dismantles a team on stupid roster moves.

You should try living in the D.C. area like I do! It’s quite amusing.

by wibrownguy on Mar 7, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh there is a special place in my heart for Skin fans

As much as I’ve really been placing the smack down on the Skins it’s mostly because of the crap they have to put up with. That FO just can’t do anything right and then on top of it they nickle and dime the fan base. It’s just criminal.

by PackApologist on Mar 7, 2011 9:54 PM CST up reply actions  

-2 Bucs

And that’s for Clifton.

"I haven't been out carousing." -Aaron Rodgers

by gavitron9 on Mar 7, 2011 8:05 PM CST reply actions  

-2 ARI

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 8, 2011 12:02 AM CST reply actions  

...

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 8, 2011 12:03 AM CST up reply actions  

New Orleans made them their bitch the following week...

Small bit of payback.

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by mike_o on Mar 8, 2011 12:31 AM CST up reply actions  

-1 Dolphins

Pack Apologist makes a great point. Those 1972 Dolphins are pretty insufferable.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 8, 2011 12:31 AM CST reply actions  

-2 Colts

You’re going down, Manning…

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B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 8, 2011 12:38 AM CST reply actions  

-1 Seahawks

because their fans hate the Packers for all our success (and how we’ve pretty much owned them over the years).

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 8, 2011 12:44 AM CST reply actions  

-2 bucs

"They’re good players. They’re basically all the same guy, except for Jordy Nelson is Caucasian."

--Ryan Clark, Pittsburgh S, on the Green Bay receivers

by Kuhl on Mar 8, 2011 12:50 AM CST reply actions  

-1 Denver, -1 Arizona

Elway was a bitch for not making this an actual card:
ElwayColts

Cardinals for the facemask tackle.

13.

by Wiedmann on Mar 8, 2011 1:10 AM CST reply actions  

Elway is THE bitch.

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by mike_o on Mar 8, 2011 1:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Was Elway the first to refuse to play for a certain team?

If so, he gets extra bitch-points for that, too.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 8, 2011 1:54 AM CST up reply actions  

He might have been

‘83 is pretty early for prima donnas, especially in the NFL. I can’t think of anyone off the top of my head before him.

13.

by Wiedmann on Mar 8, 2011 1:58 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't remember anyone earlier.

As for later, I can think of Jeff George and Eric Lindross. Fitting company, I think.

"This is a football." "Slow down, coach! You're goin' too fast!"

by Cool Hand on Mar 8, 2011 4:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Don't forget Peyton's fruity little brother, Eli.

He should be in a Charger uniform right now.

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by mike_o on Mar 8, 2011 4:29 AM CST up reply actions  

The whole NFL-AFL thing pretty much rules out Elway as being the first.

"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West

by insertscreenname on Mar 8, 2011 4:58 AM CST up reply actions  

There are a whole bunch of guys who were selected in both the AFL draft and the NFL draft.

Joe Namath, selected #1 by the Jets, and #12 by the St Louis Cardinals, “refused” to play for the Cardinals and signed with the Jets.
Namath’s one example. Gale Sayers went to the NFL, signing with the Bears rather than the Chiefs.

"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West

by insertscreenname on Mar 8, 2011 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm familiar with the history of the AFL draft.

They didn’t refuse to play for a team, they chose one of two options. The Elway (and subsequent player’s) situation was a completely different scenario, which I believe he was the first of.

13.

by Wiedmann on Mar 8, 2011 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Different interpretations. No biggie.

The earlier guys in the AFL were facing a choice between the proper league with the longevity, or the upstart league. I guess I’d consider those passing on playing for (maybe) a better AFL franchise because they wanted the security of the NFL a similar situation to Elway.

Although the Colts were really bad.

"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West

by insertscreenname on Mar 9, 2011 6:33 AM CST up reply actions  

-2 Broncos

Denver’s still around? C’mon, people.

"This is a football." "Slow down, coach! You're goin' too fast!"

by Cool Hand on Mar 8, 2011 1:20 AM CST reply actions  

-2 Broncos!

Did I get the killing blow? I hate ELWAY!!!!!!!

I feel better now, thanks!

by Zundar on Mar 8, 2011 1:44 AM CST reply actions  

If "wibrownguy" is out there

Can I trade my official Cowboy Kill Shot for your official Bears Kill Shot? Is that even allowable?

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 8, 2011 1:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Not sure if that's allowable or not

If it is I don’t have a problem with it, but I guess it’s up to Wiedmann.

by wibrownguy on Mar 8, 2011 5:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Unofficially, yes

You can tell all your friends that you killed them.

13.

by Wiedmann on Mar 8, 2011 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

YES!!!

I was going to go after Miami for the annoying 72 team and for some good ol’ fashion Heat Hate, but that can wait a day for a chance to finish of Elway.

by Zundar on Mar 8, 2011 2:07 AM CST up reply actions  

High five for hate!

"This is a football." "Slow down, coach! You're goin' too fast!"

by Cool Hand on Mar 8, 2011 4:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Cards +1 / Chargers -1

Cards: Kurt Warner. A QB that did it the right way in many regards, has never been anything but classy, revived two NFL teams, and retired when he said he was going to.

Chargers: Philip Rivers. I hate him. Mouthy, whiny little thing. If he wasn’t a Fantasy Football king he’d be another Leaf.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 8, 2011 3:25 AM CST reply actions  

Philip Rivers is everything that Rodgers was accused of being beford Rodgers proved that everyone had their heads up their a$$es by winning a Super Bowl. He’s a stats guy. Now its probably more due to the team or his coach but I dislike him so I blame him (it is a hate thread).

I remember the little feud he had with Vajayjay Cutler when he played for the Broncos. I can usually find a reason to pull for one team over another no matter the situation or game, but when the Broncos played the Chargers in those days, I just wanted the stadium to collapse. I hoped that Vajayjay and Cryin’ Rivers would start off on their respective sidelines, start sprinting full tilt at one another, meet head first at midfield, and cancel each other out of the Game of Life.

Now that Cutlerbaby is in the NFC North its far more satisfying to watch him suck and hate him, but Rivers I get less of a chance to hate on regularly.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 8, 2011 3:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Terrible choices

Warner never should have stopped bagging groceries. I can’t stand the way he constantly brought up God, regardless of the situation. That, and his horrible shrew of a wife, which TV networks felt the need to constantly show. Also, remember that facemask to end our season? How can you vote them up?

Rivers’ stock shot way up in my eyes because he was in a feud with that candy-ass Cutler.

If it wasn’t for Rivers’ great play, he’d be a bust.
Plus, there’s those sweet throw-back powder blue jerseys with the numbers on the helmets.

13.

by Wiedmann on Mar 8, 2011 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Well...

Most athletes bring up God. But either way, Warner was a great person. I never heard him say a bad or controversial thing about anyone. Everyone on the Cards team loved him, just like the people that played with him in St. Louis. He used to get cheered when the Cards would go to St. Louis by the Rams fans…..and they are division rivals.
 I’m not sure what his wife has to do with anything. She wasn’t shown as much as Deanna! Plus she was in the Marines, which is badass.
And the facemask thing sucked but that was the officials fault. I’m tired of the “remember the facemask” argument because it sounds like Vikings fans bitching about officiating all the time. The Packers have nobody to blame but themselves for that loss. They let Warner have the game of his career, while spotting them 17 to start the game. They are lucky it went into overtime the way they started out.

Ultimately, why do I keep voting up the Cards? I live in Phoenix! And aside from losing a playoff game to them, I can’t find any reason GB fans should “hate” the Cards. They need love…….
The Chargers on the other hand are just full of annoying band-wagon fans.
And I have never liked either of the jersey’s they’ve worn lately. But then again I hate the color baby-blue on anything.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 8, 2011 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

You live in Phoenix?

I always wanted to ask if you were from Arizona or ancient Canaan. Now I dont’ have to. Thanks!

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 8, 2011 8:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Awesome

Can you also go back in time and draft Barry Sanders instead of Tony Mandarich?

And just pass on our draft pick instead of taking Ahmad Carroll?

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 9, 2011 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

As much as I love & respect Barry

Who knows what would have happened if we had taken Barry instead? Causality. Infante might have had more wins in ‘90 & ’91, and kept his job, and Holmgren ends up on another team to start his coaching career. Braatz may have gotten more years as GM, and we never hire Ron Wolf. Would we have traded for a QB with the Falcons? The team that took Barry ended up going 0-16. If we hadn’t taken Mandarich, ’96 may never have happened.

13.

by Wiedmann on Mar 9, 2011 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

-2 Redskins

Legit reasons: Because they have a racist nickname and whenever somebody objects to it’s use the Redskins and the NFL sweep the complaints under the rug because it’s “traditional”. Because Snyder is a butt nozzle who cornholes his fanbase for every penny he can get. Because Shanahan is now their coach.

The real reason: Because I live in the D.C. area and on the majority of Sundays I’m forced to watch stupid Redskin games on TV.

by wibrownguy on Mar 8, 2011 5:19 AM CST reply actions  

Because I live in the D.C. area

Oh god, I’m so sorry…..

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 8, 2011 8:12 AM CST up reply actions  

There are actually a number of upsides to living out here, but the sports teams (save the Capitals) aren’t one of them.

by wibrownguy on Mar 8, 2011 5:39 PM CST up reply actions  

When I (briefly) lived near there the traffic drove me insane.

Couldn’t get anywhere within 100 miles of the capital anywhere near rush hour without sitting in traffic.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 8, 2011 5:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah that's true

The traffic definitely blows. I’m one of the lucky ones in that my commute route is only 15 minutes.

by wibrownguy on Mar 8, 2011 5:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Good choice

Redskins nickname is a bit dated, to put it nicely. And Dan Snyder is an ass, to put it nicely.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 8, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

-2 Washington.

We should NEVER have lost that game. NEVER.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 8, 2011 7:08 AM CST reply actions  

-2 Carolina

That’s for stealing Reggie White’s last great season from us.

by Tedaldtada29 on Mar 8, 2011 7:56 AM CST reply actions  

-1 Giants, -1 Eagles

I cant stand the east coast teams for the nonstop attention they get in the media.

by Glenn'sYank13 on Mar 8, 2011 9:52 AM CST reply actions  

-2 Seahawks

cause they want they ball and they’re gonna score

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by Ben T on Mar 8, 2011 11:26 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

From A Giants fan

Love the fact that the Cowboys are dead and Eagles are next to go. But please kill the Jets before the Giants!!!! haha Cheers

2011 Draft - NY Giants

1st) Marcel Dareus
2nd) Patrick Peterson
3rd) A.J. Green
4th) Akeem Ayers
Trade Darius Reynaud to Eagles for their 5th round pick.
5th) Mark Ingram
6th) Anthony Castonzo
7th) Mike Pouncey

by BigBlueIntervention on Mar 8, 2011 12:43 PM CST reply actions  

I won't be voting for either NY team any time soon.

There’s plenty of other teams on my hitlist before them.

Oh, and as far as your draft, looks solid, but I think you should wait for the 3rd to take Dareus, take Peterson in the 1st, and Green in the 2nd. You don’t wanna reach, do you?

13.

by Wiedmann on Mar 8, 2011 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Bears -2

They sound mentally challenged everytime they say, “DUH…”

“I’m a duh duh duh fooseball fan.”
“I like duh Bears.”

Superbowl Champs Baby!!!!!

13 World Championships, soon to be 14 after next season...GUARANTEED!!!!!

Nuff said....

by Jabooty on Mar 8, 2011 5:02 PM CST reply actions  

The tomb has been sealed

Gonna need some C-4 for that baby.

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"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 8, 2011 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

That bounty's already been claimed

Jabba paid me handsomely for that corpse.

by wibrownguy on Mar 8, 2011 8:29 PM CST up reply actions  

NO DISINTEGRATIONS!

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 8, 2011 10:15 PM CST up reply actions  

-2 Pitt

The only logic that I can see in giving them plus points is that they just helped us win a ‘ship. But c’mon people, we don’t like them nearly as much as some teams. Time for them to fall.

"I haven't been out carousing." -Aaron Rodgers

by gavitron9 on Mar 8, 2011 6:17 PM CST reply actions  

Helped?

There was no helping of any sort. With the playoff run of all road games and the injuries which were overcome, that championship was most definitely earned.

by wibrownguy on Mar 8, 2011 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

-1 Oakland -1 Washington

This is a vote for having competent owners in the NFL. Dan Snyder and Al Davis are affronts to the dignity of sports owners everywhere (this side of Donald Sterling, of course, but I can’t vote against the Clippers here).

Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."

by GoGregGo on Mar 8, 2011 8:26 PM CST reply actions  

FLAGGED!

That is just horrible…

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by mike_o on Mar 8, 2011 10:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks a lot

Now my penis is so soft I won’t be able to have sex for a week

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 9, 2011 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

@_@

TMI.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 9, 2011 6:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd love an explanation for the Jets vote...

Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."

by GoGregGo on Mar 8, 2011 9:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh look, the Jets just won an NBA Finals!

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 8, 2011 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

-2 Eagles

I’m not all that traumatized by 4th and 26. Sure, it stung, particularly since a delusional mediocrity named Fred Mitchell was involved.

But games are games. Sometime shitty stuff happens, and when we get payback, I’m generally able to let things go. And we got payback this year, beating the Eagles not once, but twice, including a playoff win on the road. 4th and 26 is ancient history. But the Eagles do get in the way occasionally. They’re an NFC team and they’ve been pretty good under Reid, so they get in the way more than say the Cowboys, whom I’m all kinds of ambivalent about. That creates a little bit of an edge for me.

But really, my Eagle hate right about nowish is because of one man, Michael Vick. In spite of my occupation (and actually, largely because of it) I’m generally a “he’s paid his debt to society” guy. Once the sentence is done, it’s done, and I figure if the guy who sat his time can get back on his feet and be productive (and law abiding) we’re all better off. And Vick sat his time. Right?

Well, sort of. He was prosecuted federally and convicted for Conspiracy to Travel in Interstate Commerce in Aid of Unlawful Activities under the RICO act. Quite literally, he was charged and convicted of engaging in illegal interstate commerce by shipping dogs over state lines for criminal purposes (after breeding and training them at Bad Newz Kennels, his own dog death house). While Vick admitted, as a part of the federal plea agreement, to participating in the killing of dogs, he didn’t spend a day in federal prison for animal cruelty resulting in death.

Not a day.

The feds, who don’t have jurisdiction over that kind of behavior, handed the state of Virginia those charges on a silver platter. The local prosecutor, the guy who could have brought a ton of state charges, initially said the whole investigation was motivated by race, according to Profootballtalk. That prosecutor was described as “clueless” by PFT back in 2007 and said “anyone who’s hoping that the truth comes out should be grateful that the feds got involved.” Finally, over a year after the federal investigation was complete, state charges were filed and Vick was allowed to plead to a single count of running a dog fighting operation and a single count of Animal Cruelty was dismissed as part of the plea deal. Already in federal prison, the State of Virginia agreed to recommend a suspended sentence, the criminal justice system equivalent of saying “meh, whatever.”

Why does that piss me off? Because Vick participated (either actively or passively) in the execution of multiple dogs, and he forced dogs to fight on dozens or hundreds of occasions, which in itself is animal cruelty by any definition of those words. Here are some excerpts from the USDA inspector’s report on Vick’s behavior, taken from http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3718304:

“Vick, Peace and Phillips thought it was funny to watch the pit bull dogs belonging to Bad Newz Kennels injure or kill other dogs.”

“In mid April 2007 Vick, Peace and Phillips hung approximately 3 dogs who did not perform well in a “rolling session”.

“They also drowned three dogs by forcing their heads into a 5 gallon bucket of water.”

Vick initially denied participating in killing the dogs, and then he failed a polygraph. Subsequently, he “admitted to taking part in the actual hanging of the dogs.”

By my count, that’s six possible Animal Cruelty counts, three of which Vick confessed to, just for the execution of the animals. And ever dogfight or “rolling session” he attended or ordered was another available count. Yet Virginia only charged one count of Animal Cruelty and they agreed to dismiss it in a plea deal in spite of having a slam dunk case. And then they agreed to a suspended sentence.

I don’t care if “no one ever told (him) it was wrong”. I grew up around farms. I’m not some PETA member saying that dairy farms are cruel and you shouldn’t drink milk. I love a good burger and a good steak and I don’t feel bad about it. But these are pack animals who look to others, including humans, as partners, as companions. They weren’t killed for food, or clothing or shelter. They were killed because they weren’t good enough at tearing other dogs to shreds. I’ve never told my 6 year old it’s wrong to make dogs fight and then laugh when one of them gets maimed or killed. I’ve never told my six year old it’s wrong to hang a dog with a nylon cord from a tree. I’ve never told my 6 year old it’s wrong to stick a dogs head in a 5 gallon bucket and hold it there until he stops his desperate struggle to pull his head out so he can breathe. And I’m damn sure he knows all of those things are wrong even though I’ve never told him.

And Virginia gave him a pass. And I’m supposed to just be ok with that and be impressed by his athleticism and his “courage” and his freaking comeback player of the year award (even though he wasn’t coming back from anything other than the fruits of his own vile acts; it’s not like he got cancer or served in a war. Rocky Blier he ain’t.)

Excuse my language, but fuck that. Unlike a certain MLB player, I’m not rooting for Vick to get hurt, but you bet your ass that I’m hoping he loses every game he ever plays. I also think it would be pretty damn funny if a dog bit his ass, hard, the next time he goes for a walk. Because 23 months in federal prison for driving a dog across state lines isn’t enough for what he did. Not by a long shot.

So, for at least as long as Michael Vick wears their uniform, the Eagles can kiss my ass.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 8, 2011 11:14 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Jeez that's wordy.

Sorry.

Short version:

Michael Vick killed defenseless animals for fun and didn’t do enough time.

Screw him.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 8, 2011 11:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I get what you are saying

I never really cared that much about his crime/sentence even though I am a dog person because I always figured he was being nailed for it because he was high profile. How many others really get hammered for this offense, or how often does this happen every day and nobody knows or cares?

But at the same time you’re right. He damn well knew what he was doing and any of those BS excuses weren’t good enough. I don’t care about your “culture” or your “friends” or your “upbringing” or any of that crap. Wrong is wrong and people need to start taking responsibility for their damn actions and facing the consequences if they don’t. Stop blaming everyone/everything else. He knew it was wrong but he was making money doing it so he let it go. I don’t even really think he’s that sorry for it to this day, he’s just sorry he got caught. But there are worse evils in this world to get worked up over and I just can’t build that level of hate for him.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 9, 2011 12:14 AM CST up reply actions  

I've never understood the notion that high profile people get nailed for things regular folks get a pass on.

(Lots of others think that high profile folks get passes all the time, and they can’t both be true.)

The knee jerk reaction is usually wishing it would go away. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a high profile person get nailed because they were high profile. It just doesn’t work that way in my experience.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 9, 2011 12:30 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm sure it doesn't

Just seems like because its high profiel you hear about it more and you think they are the only ones getting busted for it. I never hear about dog fighting rings otherwise, so it seems as though because it was Vick they went out of their way to make an example out of him.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 9, 2011 12:35 AM CST up reply actions  

They certainly get more press coverage.

But I don’t think Vick got anything worse than he would have gotten if he’d have been some anonymous guy with the resources to do the same thing.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 9, 2011 6:54 AM CST up reply actions  

You can get away with anything if you're in the NFL...

Dante Stallworth is a murderer, and he gets the privilege of wearing an NFL uniform on Sundays. Roger Goodell is a fucking hypocrite.

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by mike_o on Mar 9, 2011 12:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Ock.

So many words…

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 9, 2011 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Loquacious but eloquent

And I’m giving it a rec. My vote for today is decided.

I got so sick of reading gruesome details of animal cruelty that I pretty much tuned out towards the end of the Vick media storm. I didn’t realize what had happened with the state charges. Holy carp that’s awful.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 9, 2011 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

You make lots of good arguments

Just want to say thanks for that, and if I ever have to go on trial I hope you’re not my prosecutor – I want that Virginia guy!

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 9, 2011 2:01 PM CST up reply actions  

-2 bucs

For Chad Clifton

"They’re good players. They’re basically all the same guy, except for Jordy Nelson is Caucasian."

--Ryan Clark, Pittsburgh S, on the Green Bay receivers

by Kuhl on Mar 8, 2011 11:46 PM CST reply actions  

Bengals -2

For Don Majkowski. I mean, c’mon…. The Majik Man!

But seriously, I’ve been spreading way too much love lately, and need to start some hate. I just don’t really hate any of the teams that are left…….and some that are dead.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 9, 2011 12:16 AM CST reply actions  

-2 Colts.

Peyton Manning is the kind of guy you’d see walking a Poodle, drinking his Starbucks, while reading his yoga manual.

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B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 9, 2011 12:47 AM CST reply actions  

Nah, that'd be Brady.

Manning would be on a field in Indiana somewhere, throwing at bales of hay. And then going home to study more film, leaving his devoted wife on the outer (she must really love all the money, or the Indianapolis lifestyle).

"Perhaps it was the Noid who should have avoided me." Mayor Adam West

by insertscreenname on Mar 9, 2011 6:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Where do you get this?

That definitely sounds like Brady. Manning has a little bit of the good old boy image that we used to think Favre had.

"They’re good players. They’re basically all the same guy, except for Jordy Nelson is Caucasian."

--Ryan Clark, Pittsburgh S, on the Green Bay receivers

by Kuhl on Mar 9, 2011 8:33 AM CST up reply actions  

'Douche' would be the word I may have been looking for...

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B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 9, 2011 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Again,

I think you mean Tom Brady or Eli Manning. Peyton may be somewhat intense at times but he seems like a good guy.

"They’re good players. They’re basically all the same guy, except for Jordy Nelson is Caucasian."

--Ryan Clark, Pittsburgh S, on the Green Bay receivers

by Kuhl on Mar 9, 2011 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

If Eli Manning gets his animal crackers and chocolate milk each afternoon he is pretty quiet and out of the spotlight. Peyton does come across as a bit “douchey” trying to pull off the “good ’ole boy” persona because he’s a bit whiny or something. Not sure what it is, but he doesn’t do it like Favre used to be able to. Maybe its just cause Peyton is smarter than Favre.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 9, 2011 12:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe its just cause Peyton is smarter than Favre.

I think this it.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Mar 9, 2011 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Is that REALLY an accomplishment, though?

/flamebait

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 9, 2011 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha no, it’s definitely not.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Mar 9, 2011 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

+1 Cardinals. Someone brought up the fact that they knocked the Vikings out of the playoff picture one year, and allowed us in. I remember watching that game—it was a thing of beauty. Vikings up 11 with about two minutes left, and they can’t contain Josh McCown—JOSH MCCOWN, people. For one of my favorite endings to a non-Packers game, they get the love.

On the other hand, they also gave me one of my least favorite endings to a Packers game, from last year’s playoffs. So…

-1 Cardinals.

"This is a football." "Slow down, coach! You're goin' too fast!"

by Cool Hand on Mar 9, 2011 1:10 AM CST reply actions  

*shrug*

Seemed funny at the time.

"This is a football." "Slow down, coach! You're goin' too fast!"

by Cool Hand on Mar 9, 2011 6:53 AM CST up reply actions  

You can still use another 2 today if you want

Since it’s a zero-sum on the Cards, it’s not really an official vote.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 9, 2011 5:45 PM CST up reply actions  

BTW

I just asked WCG why they haven’t started a hate thread yet – we’ll see if they get one going (or if I get my ass banned from there)

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 9, 2011 5:20 PM CST up reply actions  

There was some unpleasantness with some guy from MCM who did a fanpost there

I don’t really know the story, but he made a fanpost (didn’t see it) & it got deleted.

I hope they start one. I’d love to see their results (I’d love to see all 32 teams, but theirs particularly).

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by Wiedmann on Mar 9, 2011 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't start a FanPost

Figured that would be presumptuous. I just threw a comment with some links in their top front-page story (no need to check – it rips on the Pack).

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 9, 2011 6:28 PM CST up reply actions  

That's like when my parents go to the voting booth

They pretty much cancel each other out, so they might as well stay at home.

Still, pretty funny stuff. Might be a waste of a vote but it wasn’t a waste of my time to read.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 9, 2011 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

-2 Lions

Because they’re in our division and I haven’t hated on them yet. Also for that stinker of a game at Ford Field this year and for concussing Rodgers.

by wibrownguy on Mar 9, 2011 5:11 AM CST reply actions  

Rodgers concussion

Good one. I’m already committed to the Eagles today because I found TSSC’s argument quite moving, but I’ll keep that in my head for future votes.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 9, 2011 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

-2 HOU

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 9, 2011 6:19 AM CST reply actions  

In case you missed it

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2011/03/nfl-kareem-jackson-texans-cockfighting/1

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 9, 2011 6:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Another good one

Just in case anyone was running low on hate, we have some excellent reasons/arguments for more hate being posted in the last 24 hours. Good work everybody!

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 9, 2011 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

-2 Giants.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 9, 2011 7:41 AM CST reply actions  

-2 Jets

just cuz me no likey

"Believe me Delmar, woman is the most fiendish instrument of torture ever devised to bedevil the days of man."

by Ben T on Mar 9, 2011 8:39 AM CST reply actions  

I know Rex Ryan's boasting makes players want to play for him

but when you consider how dumb and obnoxious the average player is, it doesn’t really make him look much better, in my opinion.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 9, 2011 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

-2 Philly

it looks like they are going to die a slow death

by AaronR on Mar 9, 2011 9:47 AM CST reply actions  

-2 Philadelphia

Their fans annoy the crap out of me. And I agree with TSSC’s explanation (even if it was very wordy) of his complaint about Vick above.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 9, 2011 10:03 AM CST reply actions  

+1 Browns, +1 Lions

Cleveland gets a point to celebrate not having LeBron in town anymore.

Lions get a point for the much needed wake up call they provided the Packers this season.

by Zundar on Mar 9, 2011 11:01 AM CST reply actions  

-2 Eggles

But the hate may be wasted, for nobody despises the Eggles as much as their own fans do.

And put me down for never, ever, ever forgiving Vick. The only reason he was ‘forgiven’ is because he can play.
If he couldn’t , he’d be the pariah that he deserves to be. I hope his karma is a bitch, or that he’s reincarnated as one.

Care to know how I really feel about that?

by ReadTheFinePrint on Mar 9, 2011 1:12 PM CST reply actions  

-2 Eagles

See TSSC’s novel-as-blog-post above. It’s worth the time it takes to read.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 9, 2011 2:05 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed.

Even though it’s wordy, it’s well worth your time.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 9, 2011 6:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, it looks like the Eagles will be the next team to go.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 9, 2011 6:13 PM CST reply actions  

-2 Cinci

A team that thinks it’s a good idea to have T.O. AND Ochocinco on the same team? A team that dumb doesn’t deserve to play football.

Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."

by GoGregGo on Mar 9, 2011 8:43 PM CST reply actions  

The thing is

that receiver combination would have worked but for Carson Palmer being an EPIC FAIL of a QB in the clutch.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 9, 2011 10:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Which makes his retirement 'demand' hilarious.

Hey Carson, life in the NFL can and will go on without you. It’s true.

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by mike_o on Mar 9, 2011 11:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Or rather 'threat,' instead of 'demand.'

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 9, 2011 11:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I think the situation was an epic fail

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Palmer’s numbers were much better without the two.

Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."

by GoGregGo on Mar 10, 2011 7:23 AM CST up reply actions  

-1 Giants, -1 Ravens.

Because Eli Manning sucks. And because eff Art Modell (I know he’s not majority owner anymore, but I don’t care. Eff him.)

"This is a football." "Slow down, coach! You're goin' too fast!"

by Cool Hand on Mar 10, 2011 12:19 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah, screw both the Super Bowl XXXV teams :P

Although I have to say, the 41-0 thrashing of the Vikes by the Giants in the NFC title game was fun to watch.

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by mike_o on Mar 10, 2011 12:34 AM CST up reply actions  

-2 Jets

One point for Rex Ryan saying Revis should have won DPOY instead of Woodson.

One point for letting Favre retire so that he could go to Minnesota. They should have known it was a ruse and gotten a draft pick.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 10, 2011 12:20 AM CST reply actions  

-2 Colts.

Bartender, I’ll have my daily dose of Colts kill x 2.

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
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by mike_o on Mar 10, 2011 12:30 AM CST reply actions  

-1 St. Louis Cardinals/Rams

-1 Arizona Cardinals, -1 Phoenix Cardinals, -1 Chicago Cardinals, -1 Los Angeles Rams, -1 Cleveland Rams

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by Wiedmann on Mar 10, 2011 12:33 AM CST reply actions  

-2 bucs

Still for Clifton, and because Gruden’s a douche.

"They’re good players. They’re basically all the same guy, except for Jordy Nelson is Caucasian."

--Ryan Clark, Pittsburgh S, on the Green Bay receivers

by Kuhl on Mar 10, 2011 1:04 AM CST reply actions  

-2 NO

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 10, 2011 2:33 AM CST reply actions  

I shouldn't have to say this

But this. Worst part about that whole thing is I was on a “date” with a cute Packer fan. Between the drubbing and the Ain’ts fans whooping it up in the corner, we were both pretty miserable. Needless to say, once you get associated with a bad memory like that, your chances of another date go down significantly.

She never called me back, and I blame the damned Ain’ts. Kill ’em twice.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 10, 2011 2:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Cardinals +2

Because there is no hope for any other team here, they are worried they may lose Fitz if they don’t get a good QB, I’m worried they may lose Fitz because their owner is an idiot and the fans would lose all hope again…..

Or just because I don’t hate any teams that are left….

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 10, 2011 5:22 AM CST reply actions  

ick

you need to stop doing that.

13.

by Wiedmann on Mar 10, 2011 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

I doubt that...

They’re not that hateable, but I guarantee they won’t be the last ones left. That face mask they got away with was cheap, and will not be forgiven…

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by mike_o on Mar 10, 2011 5:43 PM CST up reply actions  

-2 Giants.

I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.

State high point count: 3/50

If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 10, 2011 6:51 AM CST reply actions  

-2 Giants

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 10, 2011 6:53 AM CST reply actions  

-2 Redskins

0.5 points because I have to put up with their fans living in Virginia.

0.5 points because they have an official marching band. Seriously? A marching band? I guess we just couldn’t bear to leave college behind.

0.5 points because Dan Snyder is an idiot.

and 0.5 points because they employed former Bronco Mike Shannahan.

Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."

by GoGregGo on Mar 10, 2011 7:26 AM CST reply actions  

I think the fact that they have a marching band is actually kinda cool

but I certainly have no issues with the -2 for the other reasons.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 10, 2011 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

The marching band is sorta cool

I’ve been to a few Redskin games and while the marching band is moderately cool, they certainly don’t give the stadium the feel of a college game or anything.

by wibrownguy on Mar 10, 2011 9:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Are you talking about FedEx or RFK?

b/c I heard RFK was much more collegiate.

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by Wiedmann on Mar 10, 2011 10:03 PM CST up reply actions  

FedEx

I moved out here after the Redskins had already moved to FedEx. I heard the games were much more intimate and exciting at RFK as well. Now Snyder is trying to convince the D.C. government to contribute money to build a new stadium and move the Redskins back into D.C.

by wibrownguy on Mar 11, 2011 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

And now you've given me my reason for voting down the Redskins for another day

Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."

by GoGregGo on Mar 11, 2011 7:10 AM CST up reply actions  

+1 Philly -1 Giants

I like the Eagles because I HATE the Giants

by the-real-a-rod on Mar 10, 2011 7:38 AM CST reply actions  

Iggles are already toast

You have another vote, yo

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 10, 2011 8:00 AM CST up reply actions  

-2 J-E-T-S

LETS GET JETS!

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by Ben T on Mar 10, 2011 9:41 AM CST reply actions  

-1 49ers, -1 Raiders

Jerry Rice F’ing fumbled!

Al Davis, enough said.

Gonna hate on the Bay Area.

by Zundar on Mar 10, 2011 11:07 AM CST reply actions  

-2 Jets

Rex thinks because he wants to win the super bowl badly, that he will win. after all the other teams obviously dont want to win as bad…

by Glenn'sYank13 on Mar 10, 2011 9:23 PM CST reply actions  

Oh look, the Jets just won the NBA Finals!

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 10, 2011 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

-2 Titans

Because I made a special trip back to Wisconsin in 2004 just to watch the Packers at Lambeau Field on Monday Night Football and they got absolutely blasted by the Titans. I think Favre threw like 4 INT’s in the game.

by wibrownguy on Mar 11, 2011 12:08 AM CST reply actions  

The Oiler wannabes are next on my list...

:D

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by mike_o on Mar 11, 2011 12:19 AM CST up reply actions  

-2 Colts

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
B.J. Raji is My Hero.

by mike_o on Mar 11, 2011 12:15 AM CST reply actions  

Today's Special!!!

Other blogs are giving 3 points for people who have killed a team (some just for the day, some to eternity). I don’t particularly care for that, as I think it skews the results of who the fanbase truly hates. Since we are fans of the most socialist team in the NFL, for today, everyone will get 3 points to use. Same rules as before; you can use them on 3 different teams if you wish, or all on one. This should get the game moving a little faster; the Niners blog started teams out with 15 points (they may have a top ten before us!)

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by Wiedmann on Mar 11, 2011 12:36 AM CST reply actions  

That works for me.

One step closer to the grave for the Indianapolis ‘My Little Ponies.’

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by mike_o on Mar 11, 2011 12:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Cards +2 / Raiders -1

It has become my mission to prop the Cards. I have no idea why…. except to see how much hate I can generate.

And with today’s extra point, the Raiders -1 solely because of Al Davis’ face….literally, he’s sick and disgusting and should never show himself in public…..ever.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 11, 2011 12:47 AM CST reply actions  

Arizona's nothing without Warner.

That work? :P

Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
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by mike_o on Mar 11, 2011 12:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Well thats just a fact......

not really hate. How about, “The Cards look like they are wearing footie pajamas when they wear the all-red uniforms!”

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 11, 2011 1:20 AM CST up reply actions  

-1 Jets

An extra point off for their arrogance.

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on Mar 11, 2011 12:49 AM CST reply actions  

Nooooo!!!!

You just wait until I sic Carlyle on you! He’s my pet Cardinal who I’ve trained to do strafing runs with bird seeds!

by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 11, 2011 1:23 AM CST up reply actions  

I love birds

but I hate that football team. Their really old logo is sweet, though:

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by Wiedmann on Mar 11, 2011 1:39 AM CST up reply actions  

If you want to drum up hate on the Cardinals, maybe you could stress that the used to play in Chicago. They’re nothing more than the Bears’ ugly sibling!

by wibrownguy on Mar 11, 2011 1:53 AM CST up reply actions  

-2 Ravens, -1 Giants

"This is a football." "Slow down, coach! You're goin' too fast!"

by Cool Hand on Mar 11, 2011 2:59 AM CST reply actions  

-3 Redskins

Dan Snyder still sucks.

Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."

by GoGregGo on Mar 11, 2011 7:12 AM CST reply actions  

-3 Bucs

"I'm tired of pretending I'm not a rock star from Mars."

by Kuhl on Mar 11, 2011 8:17 AM CST reply actions  

-2 Giants.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 11, 2011 8:22 AM CST reply actions  

About time to start Part 2, methinks

This has dropped off the front page

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Mar 11, 2011 9:53 AM CST reply actions  

agreed

"I'm tired of pretending I'm not a rock star from Mars."

by Kuhl on Mar 11, 2011 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

-3 Cardinals

Sorry PhoenicianPakFan. I live near Phoenix and work downtown, that wild card game was too much, and not because of the facemask, or missed blow to the hlemet the plau before. The Cards deserved to win, we couldn’t stop Warner. Having to go to work after that as one of only 2 Packers fans, and the only one on my shift, was too much. At least until this year!!!

by Zundar on Mar 11, 2011 12:05 PM CST reply actions  

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