Could The Packers Draft Another Tight End?
As a general draft strategy for the Green Bay Packers, I like it that GM Ted Thompson usually selects at least one receiver in every draft. He hasn't selected a wide receiver since Jordy Nelson and Brett Swain in 2008. But I count the addition of a tight end as adding another receiver too, and he's taken Jermichael Finley in 2008, and Andrew Quarless in 2010. It's understandable that he skipped 2009 since he took three receivers, all of whom are still with the team, in 2008.
With the release of veteran TE Donald Lee, and the uncertain status of free agent FB John Kuhn (and potentially FB Korey Hall) there is a spot or two for a tight end to fill the role. Their first job will be to block, but that doesn't mean the Packers will look for a blocking specialist. Quarless was a great receiver in college who wasn't known for his blocking, but the Packers asked him to spend most of his time blocking in 2010 anyway. Based on the recent selections of Quarless and Finley, I'd expect them to look for someone they know is a good receiver, and they'll coach them up on the blocking.
So this video of Blake Griffin hyping USC TE Jordan Cameron caught my eye. As Rob Rang points out, the original video, which has more of Griffin in front of the camera, is funnier, but both display Cameron's athleticism. He wasn't very productive in college, which makes me think the Packers wouldn't be interested in someone who's all workout/no performance, but there are a couple other mid-round tight ends that the Packers could be interested in. Both them are big receivers who could cause mismatch problems for defensive backs in the same way that Finley does.
They might go no further than target Wisconsin's Lance Kendricks, who's always been known as a great athlete, but it took him a couple years before he became a major part of their offense by his senior season. He's currently projected to be drafted in the third round.
Another guy is Nevada TE Virgil Green. He was another guy who burst on the scene with an impressive workout at the NFL combine, but he's not all about his workout. He caught 35 passes as a senior at Nevada, which was second best on a great college team that was built around the running game.
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I don’t see the Packers drafting another TE, but I can easily see them drafting a WR… Quite possibly in the top 3 rounds!
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I agree a WR is more likely
Especially since they appear noncommital towards Jones, and Driver is near the end of his career.
Vertical
It was said that he had a 42+ Vertical jump, leading ALL OFFENSIVE PROSPECTS, and better than Vernon Davis in ’06. Draft him late and develop him into a TE with Finley moving to a slot WR to fill the void of the potential loss of James Jones
Not too crazy of an idea, right?
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by ilovethegbpackers on Mar 23, 2011 4:36 PM CDT reply actions
We kept 4 TE's and 3 FB's this year
And with 1 TE gone, and some uncertainty at FB, why not?
Don't draft a TE
1. Jermichael Finley
2. Andrew Quarless
3. Tom Crabtree
I think all 3 of our TE’s are more than capable of getting the job done. Maybe Crabtree isn’t that special of a receiver, but at least he can block. That’s equally important. Quarless is too young to give up on and has too much potential. He was nothing special as a rookie, but neither was Finley. Give him time to develop, then we’ll see if we need to replace him. I think we are set at TE. We only need 3, not 4 again.
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but we don't need to draft a 4th.
sign a cheap veteran if need be, or spend make one Mr Irrelevant. It’s a waste of a draft pick to draft a guy who will be number 3 at best behind two young players.
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Yeah, that's a good point
but, if the value’s there, why not? We could use Finley as even more of a WR than he already is.
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Kendricks
If we were going to draft a TE. I wouldnt mind seeing them draft him. He was a late bloomer in college but I would believe most of that was due to his size. I played against him during both of our senior years of HS and he was known as a speedy guy. He was tall and lean back then. So it took him a few years and a college lifting program to get where he is now with his size.. . Coming from a program like Wisco you know he has the blocking aspect of it and he certainly has the catching abilities. And he was huge for Bucky this year in the passing game.
Although I do agree with everyone so far that we dont need another one but if we were going to I would like to see the home state guy!
Call me a homer
but I think Kendricks will be better than Rudolph from ND. Im wondering why he is slotted by some to be a 1st round pick, he hasn’t really proven that much at the college level.
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by Prince Fielder is Skinny on Mar 23, 2011 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Cause he’s basically the prototype of what teams are looking for in a TE in the league today. He’s got good height, good speed, and good athleticism. As the league continues to become more pass happy, finding a TE who can line up wide and create mismatches is a huge plus.
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by packallday555 on Mar 23, 2011 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you think
that Rudolph is a better prospect than Kendricks at this point? I just think Kendricks is a better athlete with more potential.
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by Prince Fielder is Skinny on Mar 23, 2011 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he’s a more polished receiver then Kendricks is. I think he catches the ball a lot better then Kendricks does. It seemed like Kendricks used his body to bring in balls a bit too much. For that reason, I’d say at this point he is.
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by packallday555 on Mar 23, 2011 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
But that is basically what Kendricks also is.
Kendricks could be a Finley in the making. I know Finley has improved incredibly since his rookie year but since he is still just a few years out of the combine and pro days. Heres a look at the comparisons..
40- Finley 4.82 4.67 Lance 4.65 4.57
Bench- Finley 20 Lance 25
Vertical- F 27 1/2 L 34 1/2 proday 38 1/2
Broad- F 9’9’’ L 10’2’’
Lance already has decent/ good blocking skills too. Finley has the height on him by 2" but the weight is a wash with 247 Finley and 243 Lance. We all know how good Finley is. IMO Lance could be that other WR/ TE threat. If we have two guys out there like that plus Jennings and co. it would be insane!
Hey, I wouldn’t mind it! I love me some Wisconsin guys haha. I just think his hands are a little bit iffy. I just don’t see us taking a TE though because Quarless appears to be our next attempt at finding another Finley and Crabtree did well as our blocking TE.
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by packallday555 on Mar 23, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
If Kendriks has iffy hands
he’ll fit right in. Our D-backs have the best hands on the team.
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Don't confuse Kendricks's hands with Nick Toon's.
Kendricks is a consistent catcher; Toon was NOT by any means.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 24, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
The only reason I say iffy is because he uses his body to bring in catches quite a bit.
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by packallday555 on Mar 24, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm wondering the same.
Rudolph didn’t produce in that offense with Jimmy Claussen as QB. Then he suffered an injury in the summer, one that nagged him through what little playing time he had this season. Rudolph had one amazing game against a beyond-awful Michigan defense, but little else.
He has the frame (6’6", 265 lbs) but little production to speak of. And he has a bad injury history; he played on a bad hammy, which eventually killed his senior season. And his junior season in 2009 was eventually torpedoed by a shoulder injury. Rudolph is drawing a ton of comparisons to Rob Gronkowski, but Rob produced when he was healthy. Rudolph has not.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 24, 2011 2:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Rudolph didn’t produce in that offense with Jimmy Claussen as QB
Doesn’t that pretty much tell you what you need to know? Claussen is the most over-hyped Golden Domer bad QB in recent college football history!
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He put up decent stats. Not anything that’ll blow you away or anything but if you watch him play, it’s easy to see why he’s considered a late 1st rounder to early 2nd rounder. He’s got the perfect frame for a TE, is a smooth runner, has great hands, and is a decent blocker already. Actually, he compares pretty well from Finley when he came out of college. Everything from their size and measurements, to their stats in college.
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by packallday555 on Mar 24, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Except Finley didn't have back to back seasons cut short by injury
and actually produced in his two seasons at UT with Colt McCoy.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 24, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
There stats were almost identical in college. Finley had like 100 more yards then Rudolph did but Rudolph had 1 more TD. Regardless, neither were big focuses of their offenses (which is pretty common for most college TE’s). Rudolph probably would have been this past season but he was injured. Before that, he had Tate and Floyd ahead of him.
I mean I understand you must not like him much, but there’s a reason pretty much every scouting ranking has him as the #1 TE overall.
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by packallday555 on Mar 24, 2011 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not seeing those comparisons.
Finley was a focal point of his offense in 2007; Rudolph was not in any of his years. Finley had 45 catches in his final season and was unbelievably athletic; for all I know, Rudolph is that athletic but has never shown it due to injury.
I hope you understand if I’m having difficulties rating an injury-prone TE who didn’t produce in his last three years higher than one who had to sit behind two standout TEs and produced in his lone year in the spotlight.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 24, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, the injuries are a concern for sure. I won’t deny that much. I’m just saying, when he was healthy it’s easy to see why many consider him so good. He is extremely athletic and has the perfect frame. I suppose a better comparison could be to John Carlson. Though, I do think he could looked at as awfully similar to FInley.
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by packallday555 on Mar 25, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Kendricks was a late bloomer,
but he was also buried behind two of the top TEs in college for his sophomore and junior years in Travis Beckum and Garret Graham, so he couldn’t ever really show what he had then either. I do remember him playing in the slot fairly often though in his junior year, so he does offer some versatility. Add to the fact that he played at Wisconsin, so he has some significant blocking experience.
Maybe take him at the end pof the second round, and absolutely pull the trigger if he’s still around at the end of 3.
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lol. All this talk about drafting Hendricks and he has yet to show? I would love getting Hendricks if he falls to us at the end of the 3rd, but I think we need to draft a wide reciever in that slot if we haven’t already.
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by Prince Fielder is Skinny on Mar 23, 2011 8:20 PM CDT reply actions
It took Kendricks two years to become that major part of Wisconsin’s offfense because he was working behind Travis Beckum and Garrett Graham. Last I checked, both of those players are on NFL rosters.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 24, 2011 12:40 AM CDT reply actions
I did mention it
and then scrolled down two posts and said “well, damn.”
The good news is that if the Packers don’t take him, he’s almost guaranteed a spot on Houston’s roster. they seem to love them some Badgers almost as we do.
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Kendricks
He’s a good TE, but I wouldn’t draft him. Partly cuz we simply don’t need a TE! Finley, Quarless, and Crabtree are all ahead of him. He isn’t the reciever Finley is, isnt the Blocker Crabtree is and doen’t have Quarless’s long term potential. He would be a poor mans Quarless, IMO! He’ll eventually make a good TE for someone, but its gonna have to be on someone else’s roster! I think 3rd is too high for him and might take him end of 4th if I had a need for a TE.
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I think that's the case.
Kendricks would be a great selection for a team that needs a TE. And the Packers don’t need a TE with Finley coming off of injury and Quarless and Crabtree in their second seasons.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 24, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Just imagine though
They could run the opposite of a 4-wide formation. A goalline formation that has a single back and 4 TEs that could all break off of a block on a route.
Why, yes, I am reaching here.
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With Ryan Pickett as the left guard.
Otherwise we’d get no push whatsoever.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 24, 2011 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions
we have much bigger priorities than TE - i'd only want to sign one as an undrafted FA
At TE we have a top 3 guy in the league, and two young, decent athletes behind him. Quarless wasn’t a star in replacing Finley when he went out last year, but he was decent – which is what a backup should be.
We have much bigger needs at OLB, OT, and DE, and if we have draft picks to burn I wouldn’t mind seeing them used to add depth and talent at WR, CB, and RB before we’d use any on a TE.
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