Johnny Jolly Charged With Possession AGAIN
PROMOTED: Here's the link to the JSOnline.com post on the report that Green Bay Packers DE Johnny Jolly was busted (again) for felony possession. I can't imagine there's any chance he'll be reinstated in 2011. Apparently I should have kept my mouth shut.
Don't expect Johnny Jolly in green and gold in 2011, this could be the end.
"Houston police stopped Jolly’s Escalade for a traffic violation at 12:45 a.m. on the 9900 block of Westpark. Jolly presented a state identification card rather than a driver’s license, and police learned that his license is suspended and is not eligible for renewal.While searching the vehicle, police discovered that Jolly was in possession of 600 grams of Codeine, which is a felony charge. Police also discovered another unidentified substance, which has been sent in for testing."
simple analysis: Jolly is an idiot. Will this impact the Packers plan's going into the draft?
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What a waste
He has the talent to make it big in the NFL and even elsewhere than GB though he has just burned his last bridge as far as I am concerned, unless a Bengals team takes a chance on him I am thinking Jolly is done for good.
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I don't think the Bengals will have a chance to tak him
He was suspended for a year and was just applying to get off suspension. Goodell’s going to kick him out of the game.
"I'm tired of pretending I'm not a rock star from Mars."
He is gonna serve the rest of what would have been his playing career in prison now so Goodell is the least of his worries
"I agree but dont agree"
by juggernaut400 on Mar 25, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
also true...
Such a shame. He had so much talent and just threw it away.
"I'm tired of pretending I'm not a rock star from Mars."
I don't think there will be a team taking a chance on Jolly
cuz he is probably going to jail.
I am too drunk to taste this chicken.
by ThroughBeingCool on Mar 25, 2011 1:25 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Thought this was a repeat from before...
but nope. TMJ4 in Milwaukee confirms.
"Career highlights? I had two. I got an intentional walk from Sandy Koufax and I got out of a rundown against the Mets." - Bob Uecker
Bye Jolly
Maybe we can use his salary to resign Jenkins. With Jolly & Harrell we need help on the DL.
Does this mean we have to re-sign Jones
Because we won’t have an early opportunity to draft a WR now?
53 Bears, 1 Cup
by I voted for Kodos on Mar 25, 2011 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
What a moron.
Jenkins just got some leverage over GB, but I doubt he wants it anymore. The need for a DE in the draft just went up dramatically/
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 25, 2011 1:49 PM CDT reply actions
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 25, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, so much for THAT...
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 25, 2011 2:08 PM CDT reply actions
This is the part where we trade
up for J.J. Watt.
"Flopped out my old fella."
-- New Zealand lawn bowler David File, on exposing himself to teammates because they were playing poorly
by Prince Fielder is Skinny on Mar 25, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd take Christian Ballard with our 2nd round pick without hesitation.
Geez, Jolly is an idiot.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 25, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought you wanted him with our first?
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I'm thinking that's a bit too high.
If one of the top tier OTs falls (Costanzo, Carimi, or Sherrod) right into our hands at 32, that should be our pick.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 25, 2011 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I was just referring to our Community Mock at MTD :-)
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I think that was just epic craziness.
We had no idea who was online, who wasn’t. Yeah.
Given a certain someone’s massacring of MTD (one of their mods), it’s doubtful they will ever do that again. Sad.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 26, 2011 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm kinda confused by the second part
I think I know who you are talking about but what do you mean he massacred it?
Said mod basically made it utterly impossible for them to have another community mock draft.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 26, 2011 2:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I was a bit confused by that as well.
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Who, TAC?
He’s not the reason.
Hit me with an e-mail if you want more details.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 26, 2011 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I just went to MTD.
I knew from a glance who OBSIMH is talking about. He’s developing a really nasty reputation around SB Nation.
If you want some more details about him, email me. I used to spend time on one of the blogs he runs, and the guys who formerly posted there still recognize me.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 27, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
No No No....
the drug dealers (Jolly) don’t hang out with the drug users (Russell.) At least they didn’t when we bought weed in college. LoL
"Flopped out my old fella."
-- New Zealand lawn bowler David File, on exposing himself to teammates because they were playing poorly
by Prince Fielder is Skinny on Mar 25, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
you have to prepare for your career after football, right?
God Bless Our Troops............Especially Our Snipers!
by bigbill992001 on Mar 25, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
They were mixing some purple drank. Damn, can’t believe this. Muhummad Wilkerson, anyone?
I gots to put the team on my back, doo.
by BlackPack-fan on Mar 25, 2011 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, if he's still available at #32
He’s been climbing up the draft board quickly as of late.
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Nuff said....
This shocked me a little bit at first,
but then I realized this was kind of typical behavior out of any drug user/drug dealer. To have that much codeine in a vehicle is really shocking. He obviously isn’t primarily using it, he is selling it. The courts gave him a second chance and he slapped the judge in the face. He will never play football professionally again and he doesn’t deserve another chance IMO. He is facing 20 years in prison and will more than likely be sentenced by the same judge that let him go lightly the first time around. The judge will not let that happen again. No wonder why teams are so crazy about having players with “high character.” Goodbye Johnny Jolly, can’t say it was a pleasure.
"Flopped out my old fella."
-- New Zealand lawn bowler David File, on exposing himself to teammates because they were playing poorly
by Prince Fielder is Skinny on Mar 25, 2011 3:01 PM CDT reply actions
Nice of him to do this BEFORE the draft.
At least now the team won’t entertain any delusions that he’ll contribute next year (or ever). It would have sucked if they’d counted on him and passed by a good DL in this deep draft, only to have him get arrested afterward.
Took one for the team, he did. What a guy.
Good point, cheese
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by bigbill992001 on Mar 25, 2011 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Well this makes things interesting
Jenkins out, Pickett and Green are getting up there in age, and Harrell always injured leaves us with Neal and Wilson. Good chance of a high draft pick on DL.
I'm pretty sure
this will cost us a bit of leverage when we begin negotiating with Cullen Jenkins.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
Don't see it...
I think Jenkins is still gone! Other side of the DL… Its gonna force the Packers to move LDE up on the priority list tho. Wilkerson just became more likely.
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
Neal is still a RE
He will also most likely be a pass rushing DT in the nickel. RE and LE are two different body types in the 34. But yeah, were gonna need him to play good next season.
Starting lineup is looking like Neal – Raji – Pickett. Agree with Stroh though, Wilkerson is looking more and more like the pick. I hear his stock is on the rise though.
Actually
I was looking over some stuff, and Neal filled in for Pickett when he was hurt and Jenkins was healthy. Maybe he or Wilson could step in at LE making it less of a need?
I think Neal was already on IR
By the time Pickett missed games… Could be wrong. Either way Neal is much more suited for Jenkins position than he is for LDE!
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
Jolly
Can’t say I’m stunned but really expected Jolly was going to turn it around! At least it happened before the draft. Packers have time to make adjustments to cover for Jolly’s stupidity!!! Have to move DE to near the top of the priority list. Looking more and more like Wilkerson might be the pick at 32. He was already in the conversation and this news just makes it that much more likely.
Too bad for Jolly. Hoped he would stay clean for his own sake… Slums claim another life! Not that I feel particularly sorry for him…
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
And from the Idiot Cave...
Rick Spielman immediately dials the number for Jolly’s agent…
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Golden State Warrior fans are cute, talking about the 'We Believe Era.' Yes... an era that lasted all of THREE WEEKS.
Even on the off chance that the new CBA somehow lets him avoid another suspension or banishment,
would he even be welcome by the team anymore? They didn’t need him last year.
Looks like DL prospects just got a little higher on Thompson’s draft board.
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by Mitchell Maurer on Mar 25, 2011 4:14 PM CDT reply actions
Kinda changes my feeling on the draft a little..
I know Ted goes after best player available, but I’m sure there was some hope this guy Jolly would return. I hope he gets some help.
I love wins. Wins are good for the soul.- Barry Alvarez Sep 25, 2005
Help
Not likely… He broke his probation! Might be going to prison for a long time! Up to 20 yrs! Is that Help?!
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
Right..
The current penile system is no help whatever, but thats another blog
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by White92 on Mar 25, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 10 recs
Penal
This may be the greatest typo ever
"Be polite to everyone you meet, but be prepared to kill anyone"-tc16cav
by otisnixon'sparty on Mar 25, 2011 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
haha..
Just realized that..it fits tho doesn’t it.
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The joke possibilities are endless
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by otisnixon'sparty on Mar 25, 2011 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought you actually intended that misspelling....
and frequented other blogs that discuss those things.
by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 26, 2011 3:23 AM CDT up reply actions
What has been seen
cannot be unseen.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 25, 2011 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't decide
… if I’d be happier having this be intentional or not (regardless of actuality).
Epic.
LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 5:22 AM CDT up reply actions
This may be the greatest Freudian Slip ever.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
LMFAO!!!!!
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
"Here I am, brain the size of a planet,
and they ask me to pick up a piece of paper.
You call that job satisfaction?
'Cause, I don't."
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!!!
The Stroh does like his exclamation points!!!
by LA Cheese on Mar 25, 2011 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
The Storh's tombstone will read
Here lies Strohman! He was a good man! People seemed to like him in his opinion!
by handheld on Mar 25, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
Rec!!!
I gots to put the team on my back, doo.
by BlackPack-fan on Mar 25, 2011 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanx and your right...
I do like My !!!, but you said it in a way that I like, as opposed to others!!! So a Rec’d coming your way… And I’m greening you too!!! LOL
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
I bet he makes alot...
but true he makes plenty of money in the NFL that’s so stupid.
I gots to put the team on my back, doo.
by BlackPack-fan on Mar 25, 2011 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
From what I've read
it seems like it’s hanging with the wrong crowd and maybe some peer pressure and such bs. it seems like he’s a pretty good guy away from Houston (trying to get custody of his sisters kids) but the team always worried about him when he went back home. Not a good excuse but there it is.
TBD
Can take the boy outta the hood, but you can't take the hood outta the boy!!!
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
There nothing racial about it...
I don’t see why he would have a problem w/ it… And it pretty much happens to be true! He should be more irratated w/ you since your the one making it racial… LMAO
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
Sure, calling a 28 year old black man "boy" is perfectly acceptable.
13.
by Wiedmann on Mar 26, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Where did I say anything remotely close to that...
Its an expression thats used alot and is accurate in most cases… If you can’t see that your a moron! Wasn’t about Jolly in particular, could be ANYbody from the “hood”…
Im sure BlackPack-fan will like that YOU made it racial tho!!!
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
Hood can be any race crede or color!
Your the one who brought race into the conversation!! LOL
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
And I'm sure BlackPackFan will like that you automatically assumed he was from the hood!!!
LMFAO
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
You brought race into the conversation did you not?
Damn right you did… and then you topped it off by implying that BlackPackFan would be offended by my statement about the hood. That basically amount to you saying he’s from the “hood”…
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
You really have trouble with reading comprehension
or jump to ridiculous conclusions for no apparent reason.
13.
The Bright Side
This has been said a few different times and a few different ways….but here are some of the positives from this:
1. Neal and Wilson are getting healthy and have showed something.
2. This happened pretty damn early for this weird offseason and so the Pack aren’t scrambling.
3. Jolly’s appearance was something a bonus for the Pack, so really TT was playing with house money on his coming back or leaving….thus we aren’t losing much.
4. We don’t have to worry about a dumbass headbutting penalty again in close games.
Jolly...
Bad news dude. Bad move. Bad decisions. bad judgment. bad character. bad for the Packers. Bad for Jolly’s life. He’s off to a bad place for a long time.
So, what's the FA/trade-block situation like for DL's?
I know we’d like to target one in the draft but with a truncated off season seeming more and more likely it may be nice to get a vet as well…
TBD
Wow, just, wow.
I really can’t believe that. I thought he was stupid for doing it before, but to do it right as he’s about to apply for reinstatement?
13.
Maybe he got confused....
and thought reinstatement meant that he could reinstate his drug trafficking as well?
by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 26, 2011 3:26 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This really brings up the question
How do you deal with repeat offenders? I really hope Jolly’s attorneys are good, because his sentence will undoubtedly be longer and more severe this time.
I can’t even see him fitting in with Oakland or Cincinnati (he definitely has the reputation to go there given the issues guys on those teams have). This being said, I don’t think he’ll ever play in the NFL again.
I guess we’ll just have to get used to life without him. No more jolly times.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 26, 2011 5:26 AM CDT reply actions
No more jolly times.
I really can’t remember that many with him around. Am I the only one that is kinda relieved that there’s no chance of a return? His talent can be replaced, his screwups cost more than his play gained.
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No you’re not. He had one good season with us, and it’s not like it was an unbelievable season or anything. His talent can certainly be replaced, and really it kind of was with Howard Green.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Mar 26, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Howard Green actually touched a QB
And didn’t headbutt anyone. I’d say he might be an upgrade.
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by I voted for Kodos on Mar 26, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Jolly, and really Pickett for that matter, are products of the defense we run. It fits them perfectly. Both are big guys, who don’t provide any push but also don’t get pushed back much because of their size. I really don’t think it should be too hard to replace either of them, and hopefully we’ll eventually upgrade from both of them by getting a guy who can hold against the run, and also offer a bit of a pass rush.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Mar 26, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
One good season?
“07, ‘08, ’09 were all good seasons! Give him his due… Wasn’t great, but he was a valuable part of the DL play in all those seasons!
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
07’ and 08’? I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree. The biggest weakness of our defense in the 4-3 was right up the gut. I can’t even remember how many times I saw him get completely pushed out of the play. Both he and Pickett were extremely average players in the 4-3 defense imo.
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by packallday555 on Mar 26, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
‘07 season the DL play was one of the strengths of the team. They had a deep DL and everybody was valuable and had a role! Jolly was the starter over Williams that year at DT and played well in base D w/ Williams coming in on pass downs. That worked very well till Jolly got injured and Williams had to play alot of snaps down the stretch and didn’t produce!
’08 was a disaster of a season on the DL… Williams gone and Harrell out.. Really hurt our rotation… Think Pickett missed some games that year too. Happeded to get Sanders fired Thankfully, otherwise we might not have gotten Dom!!!
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
I think the other side of the coin in 07 was the Offense took the lead allowing the defense to be more aggressive, in 08 even though the Offense was efficient I remember that it sometimes started slow and made the Defense have to do more than it was capable of, especially with little depth and injuries (and Bob Sanders being < to Dom)
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The strength of that DL was Jenkins and Kampman, with Williams showing flashes too. Both Pickett and Jolly were basically just role player type guys.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Mar 26, 2011 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't disagree that they were role players.
But I think they played their roles quite well… Being a role player in the NFL is a pretty damn good way to make a living! And yeah, Kampman and Jenkins were the strength of the DL… NFL is loaded w/ good rolel players, in fact the VAST majority of the NFL is role players!
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
Yeah, and role players are generally pretty easily replaceable, which is what I was trying to was the case with Jolly.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Mar 26, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Thats what I think too...
Try telling Weidman that… I got into a disagreement w/ him over exactly that subject!!! LOL
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
JESUS F***, SPELL MY NAME CORRECTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also, I never said he was irreplaceable.
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Spell YOur own Name correctly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I could give a rats ass if I spelled it correctly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
Poor baby...
Someone spells you name wrong inadvertantly and you gotta break out the name calling! Very mature of you!!!
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
I thought we were in "giving a rat's ass" mode for name-spelling
You misspelled my name before, and I corrected you, and you did it again. I didn’t call you a name any more than you called me one.
13.
You actually think I pay attention to how you spell it...
Much less how I typed it? LMFAO I don’t give a rats ass about either! Doesn’t mean it wasn’t inadvertant… Just that I DON’T care!!!
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
Great, well, I'll definitely not care about ever spelling your name correctly ever again, Strokeman
13.
Girls, girls...
Just don’t reply to or reference each other for a while. This thread has gotten ridiculous.
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by Tepo6688 on Mar 27, 2011 2:13 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
+100000000000
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 27, 2011 5:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Check their IP addresses.....
make sure this isn’t a married couple…they sure act like it!
by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 27, 2011 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
BOOM!
REC’D!
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 27, 2011 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Both hath been greened, good sir.
but what canst thou sayest of this most uproarious pair?
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 27, 2011 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Poetic talent is easy to fake
when thy sentences doth no fucking sense make.
Badgers Football: Big Ten Champs
Packers Football: SUPERBOWL CHAMPS!
Badgers Basketball: Sweet 16
What's next?
Milwaukee Brewers: World Series Champs?
God, I love sports in the state of Wisconsin right now. If only the college guys could turn the corner.
Now you're just sounding like Yoda...
Super Bowl XLV Champions, the Green Bay Packers!
Golden State Warrior fans are cute, talking about the 'We Believe Era.' Yes... an era that lasted all of THREE WEEKS.
GUYS, STOP. PLEASE.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 27, 2011 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
If he didn't sing "Life is a Highway"...
he isn’t Petty. Or “American Girl” for that matter!
by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 27, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Or "Free-falling".
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 28, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Too kind
Saying they were average is extremely generous.
I put the team on my back!!!!!
by Packattack88 on Mar 26, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait a sec...
The police said that his license was suspended since 2007. How did they miss that fact in 2008 when they pulled him over and found codeine in his car?
Wow, shame
Regardless of team, you hate to see a guy with all the talent in the world to piss his career away like that. Hope he gets his life in order.
With the 12th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, the Minnesota Vikings select...
Kinda hard to do that in prison don't you think?
He broke his probation from his 1st arrest. I always liked him, but some guys just have demons.
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
Hard yes. Impossible no.
Former tight end Mike Barber runs a great prison ministry in Texas that includes numerous success stories. Hopefully Jolly can be one of them.
I love wins. Wins are good for the soul.- Barry Alvarez Sep 25, 2005
Yeah and some inmates have gotten law degrees!
Those are about 1 in a million…
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
The goverment
Just one theory on why social deviants stay deviant to the norm. This is in reference to the low number of success stories for people turning their lives around.
It talks about why the majority of deviants stay deviant
The state labels a certain behavior as “criminal”. A person commits that behavior and thus is a “criminal” and is punished as one, typically with jail time. So you throw that person into jail with other “criminals”. What you have now done is put a bunch of “criminals” together, creating and reinforcing a deviant culture. Thus once that persons time is done, he/she exits the jail with a label as a “criminal” and having spent x months with other “criminals”. Sound like a great way to reform people?
This has been taken further to address how society responds to “criminals”. This includes the affect of that label on getting jobs, loans, houses, how neighbors and friends react to you, etc.
At least that’s how I remember it from my criminology class a while back.
Hmm, that’s actually a pretty interesting theory. Thanks for sharing that.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Mar 28, 2011 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope you aren't suggestion then that no effort should be made.
I love wins. Wins are good for the soul.- Barry Alvarez Sep 25, 2005
Of course not...
But considering all the gang action going on in prisons they have ALOT more to worry about than improving themselves… Like staying alive! Rehabbiilitation in prison is a joke!
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
Unless you want to run a winery.
Then you can create fantastic mixed drink recipes featuring these ingredients:
A Sealable Bag (Ziploc or a heavy-duty garbage bag with rubber bands)
10 Peeled Oranges
1 8oz Can of Fruit Cocktail
50 Sugar Cubes
6 Teaspoons of Ketchup
Tap Water (I just googled this Strohman – no really)
Yes
Whats even more yummy sounding is that the mixture is – lol I’ll just give you the link. But from I’ve seen and read, if you’re sentenced to prison for any length of time, you basically learn to “live off the land” so to speak.
http://www.moderndrunkardmagazine.com/issues/11-03/11-03-jailhouse.htm
Similar to what Caretaker did
in “The Longest Yard”. Caretaker (James Hampton) also played Michael J Fox’s dad in the 1985 movie “Teen Wolf”, which is mildly interesting and I didn’t realize till now.

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