How about a trade with the Panthers?
by Jaxon on Mar 9, 2011 2:22 PM CST
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PrintNo I'm not talking about the #1 pick...we will keep that one and take Newton is the current thinking. No, I'm referring to RB DeAngelo Williams. The Panthers only put a 1st round tender on Williams, not a 1st and 3rd. They put 1st and 3rd on other players but not Williams, who we have to assume will be looking for top 5 RB money. Trust me, he's worth it.
We find the tender curious and more directly, it seems to indicate the Panthers hope some other team signs him and coughs up the 1st rounder. So my question to you Packer fans, do you think the Packers would make that move (putting the CBA stuff aside)? Would you welcome that move, giving up your #32 overall for Williams?
I realize that technically this would not be a 'trade' as the title of this post suggests, but you get the idea. It's essentially a trade.
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I think we have enough talent at RB not to give up a 1st rounder
I do like your idea in theory – Carolina is in a unique situation considering they also have Jonathan Stewart and that Mike Goodson emerged last year as a capable back when Williams and Stewart were out
but I don’t do it for 2 reasons:
1) Williams has obvious durability issues. He’s a solid back when healthy, but he’s been really banged up the last couple years and missed quite a few games, I don’t know if you give up a 1st rounder to take the chance he stays healthy
2) Between the return of Ryan Grant and the emergence of James Starks late last season, I think the Packers have enough talent at the position that we don’t need to give up a 1st rounder to upgrade. Grant has been a 1,000+ yard guy every year, and Starks looks, at worst, to be able to take some of workload from him and produce. I give Grant a chance to show he’s back and healthy, and to let Starks show he can be that productive over a full season, before I give up a 1st rounder to add someone else
Not to mention, the Packers have much bigger needs on OL, DL, and OLB that they could address in the 1st round that would probably pay bigger dividends for us. But I am on board with your thinking!
by rip_city_swagger on Mar 9, 2011 2:52 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I'd like a RB
but wouldn’t give up a 1st to get one.
"They’re good players. They’re basically all the same guy, except for Jordy Nelson is Caucasian."
--Ryan Clark, Pittsburgh S, on the Green Bay receivers
If you would have posted this going into last season — or even about halfway through this past season — I would have been all for it. But I liked what we saw out of Starks, and I think the way he was used in the playoffs by McCarthy shows that the team likes him quite a bit too. I think he has all of the tools to become a very good RB in this league.
Because of this, I seriously doubt that we’d give up a 1st rounder, and then pay Williams a big contract on top of that, especially since Thompson values his draft picks like his own kids. We also have some guys that we’re going to have to extend here in the next two-three years (Finley, Matthews, Shields, possibly even Starks).
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by packallday555 on Mar 9, 2011 2:54 PM CST reply actions 6 recs
Concurred
I get sick of saying “agreed” so I went with “concurred”. But that really sums it up. Expect many rec’s.
We appear to be adequate at RB, and don’t need to upgrade unless we find someone who is the RB equivalent of Greg Jennings – basically, a guy who can put the team on his back, doo.
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by I voted for Kodos on Mar 9, 2011 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
Haha, I watch that video like every 3 or 4 days and it just never gets old!
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by packallday555 on Mar 9, 2011 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
I really struggled to answer this question myself. Do I think Williams is better than anyone on our roster right now? Yes. Would I like to have him on our team? Yes. Give up a first? While i think its a fair price for a player of his talent, I feel like we won’t really get the bang for the buck we want/need from that pick. While its not a position of complete strength, we have much bigger areas of need.
Grant is okay…I think we can do much better still but he’s still above just average. Starks showed me a lot, he’s not there yet though and Williams is clearly better. Starks could end up being great, you never know. Ultimately, I think its not enough of a need to warrant this kind of move. It leaves us with three capable RBs and its unlikely we’d get too much for them in trade so the tradeoff just isn’t worth it.
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I'm curious too
I realize this is a bit off topic but what do you see the Panthers doing with the first pick? Do you they take “Scam” Newton as I like to call him, do they take Peterson, or maybe Bowers or Quinn? I’m of the opinion that Clausen should be given another chance. I think he was thrown into a horrible situation, and was overwhelmed by it. He didn’t really have great receivers, and the OL had injuries to two of your best OL correct? (Otah and I can’t remember the name of the other one)
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Interesting. I personally think he’s going to end up being a huge bust. What does the consensus on Clausen seem to be on your site?
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by packallday555 on Mar 9, 2011 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
That is dumb though…of course he is going to do better when everything is planned out for him.
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by TrevorR on Mar 10, 2011 1:19 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Hell No!!
Nothing against WIliams, but hes been used heavily in college and alot at Carolina too… And we have Grant coming back from his ankle injury and Starks who did very well in the playoffs! We would have no use for another front line RB!!!
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Wouldn't say we have no use for him.
He’s better than Grant and Starks, the concern is the money we would have to pay him and giving up the 1st rounder.
I gots to put the team on my back, doo.
by BlackPack-fan on Mar 9, 2011 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
OK
I’ll give you he’s better than Grant, but I’m not so sure about Starks! Age, contract to sign him, heavy use and a 1st rd pick? No way I make that trade…
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Only 2 years older than Starks and
he’s averaging 5.0 yards per carry in his career (better than Adrian Peterson, Maurice J-D, and Ray Rice among others)! 2008, he had 1,500 yards and 18 TDs while losing goal-line carries to Jonathan Stewart (Stewart had 184 carries that season). So definitely better than Starks, maybe not in 3 years, but better for next season and in 2012. But like I said, maybe he’s not worth the money and 1st rd pick.
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by BlackPack-fan on Mar 9, 2011 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
In our system...
The RBs we have are sufficient. We don’t need to put big money towards a flashy RB when that money could go towards OL or WR.
It just wouldn’t make any sense to aquire a guy who we are not going to be giving a TON of carries to.
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by Chief Oshkosh on Mar 9, 2011 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
he'd be an improvement
but I don’t think it’d be worth the money and pick to get him.
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by Kuhl on Mar 9, 2011 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Yes
I gots to put the team on my back, doo.
by BlackPack-fan on Mar 9, 2011 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
We have got to sound arrogant with this one
I know from the outside looking in that RB looks to be a big hole, but it’s not something we really see worth the 32 for the most part I’m guessing. Grant should be healthy, Starks is growing quickly, and frankly RB’s are a dime a dozen these days. I just have a hard time seeing value in investing a 1st rounder for a RB unless he’s got fresh legs and very special.
You have every reason to be arrogant being World Champs
and to say a SB champ has ‘needs’ sounds funny to me. Obviously RB wasn’t THAT big of problem. You still won the SB….
I was thinking the same thing
Unless a running back has the potential to be the next coming of Walter Payton or Jim Brown, they just aren’t worth a first round pick.
Cam Newton? Why would you do that to your franchise?
I’d rather have Gabbert or trade down a few spots and take Bowers.
As for Williams, I don’t think giving up a 1st rounder for him is a good idea. rip_city hit it on the head: “the Packers have much bigger needs on OL, DL, and OLB…”
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I would take Newton over Gabbert
Gabbert played in a spread offense, just like Newton. The big difference is that Gabbert has better foot mechanics, something that Newton can and will fix.
Newton had a 66% completion percentage, 10.2 YPA, and 30 TD to 7 INTs last year.
Gabbert had a 63.4% completion percentage, 6.71 YPA, and 16 TD to 9 INTs last year.
Newtons stats are far better. Gabberts low YPA and TD to INT ratio is horrible for someone coming from a spread offense. Personally, I would take Bowers or Dareus in the Panthers position.
Newton's a punk
From what I’ve heard, Gabbert may be too, so maybe I’d just avoid both.
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The difference between spread offenses for Newton and Gabbert were nite and day!!
Gabbert played in a passing spread w/ multiple reads and passing options… Newton played in a read option spread that is FAR more tilted and designed for the QB to run and only had one read on pass plays!! Thats a huge advantage for Gabbert transitioning to the NFL and reading defenses and moving thru progressions! No QB who has played in the read option spread that Newton used has ever transitioned into a good passing QB in the NFL… Gabbert is more like Bradford, tho not quite that good, whereas Newton is Vince Young, but maybe slightly better… No comparison! I’ll take Gabbert every time!!!
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by Strohman on Mar 9, 2011 9:47 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
…Gabbert is more like Bradford
Agreed. He appeared to actually have to make multiple reads. Though, I don’t really like him a whole lot either. I think the guy I like most is Mallet, simply because he played in a pro style offense, has elite talent, and tore up the best conference in college football two years in a row. Though, his mobility in the pocket is a concern. I like Ponder too. He looks to me like a guy that could do very well in a west coast offense.
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by packallday555 on Mar 9, 2011 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
I'ld go w/ Gabbert and Ponder
As my first choices… Don’t like Newton and have no faith in Mallet even tho he has a golden arm.. I would even take Locker as my 3rd choice!
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by Strohman on Mar 9, 2011 11:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Mallet has looked the best throwing....
but I hate him. He is such a meathead, unlikeable douche. He may straighten out and be very good, but he may also just be an idiot that turns into the next Leaf. He seems like a PR ticking time-bomb.
Plus he will never survive against complex defenses like Capers or LeBeau in the NFL. He can’t move at all. The defenses will game plan his drop back spot in the backfield and target him all damn day, and he already has a bad habit of making stupid throws in big situations. He needs to end up with a good QB coach who will fix his weaknesses and sit for a while watching a professional do the job.
by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 10, 2011 5:35 AM CST up reply actions
His press conference at the combine was... not good.
And just like Leaf, he has the arm and all the tools, but appears to be a questionable leader. Unfortunately for Leaf, if Mallet busts it won’t be as a guy who had a 50-50 shot at going #1 .
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by insertscreenname on Mar 14, 2011 5:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Not so sure about that anymore.
I heard Carolina was interviewing him….
If they are going to take a QB, they may want to take the guy who has the best skills right now. Thats ok though, then they’d have to unlikeable, doucenozzle QBs in two years.
by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 15, 2011 6:24 AM CDT up reply actions
With the 33rd overall selection...
the Carolina Panthers New England Patriots select…
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 16, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
The whole thing, the whole production, it was all an act?
What about the breathing, the panting, the moaning, the screaming?
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 16, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I like Bradford a lot....
and he will be great. But if you are comparing current prospects to Bradford or Young….
Vince Young STILL has a nearly 2:1 win to loss ratio in the NFL. Pretty darn good for a guy who has never really had the confidence of his coach as a starter and is considered a running QB.
Though I have no doubt Bradford will be successful, Young could very well land on another team as a starter and continue to make his style work. Then again he’s not an awful passer either. I watched him drive the TItans 99 yards against the Cards a couple years ago in the final minutes of a game to win it on a last second play.
He’s a nutcase, but if you are comparing skill sets, then you could do a lot worse than a winning NFL QB with a penchant for running a bit too quickly.
by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 10, 2011 5:30 AM CST up reply actions
I wasn't talking about his winning %
I was talking about his ability as a passer… And I don’t know how much credit you can give him for beating the Cards D to win! THey have a habit of losing games at the end!
I just don’t see him ever being successful when it matters… In the playoffs!
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Yeah thats what I mean though
If you don’t have great quality as a passer but still win games, does it matter how great of a passer you are?
Young has never really made it very far with the team when games mattered so I would guess his playoff record over time would not be as good as his regular season record and he probably couldn’t win a Super Bowl with that skill set but you never know. Perhaps if a team built around a QB that they knew was not the most prolific passer they might find more success too?
by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 10, 2011 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
Has he won any playoff games?
Don’t really care beyond that… He can be great in the regular season, but if he loses in the 1st rd or doesn’t make the playoffs it means nothing!
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VY is 0-for in the playoffs since leaving UT.
Titans didn’t make it in 2006
Titans lost 17-6 to the Chargers in the 2007 Wild Card Game
Titans lost 13-10 to the Ravens in the 2008 Divisional Game (one of the more infuriating moments of my life, Tennessee had every chance to win that game and they failed on all of them)
Titans didn’t make it in 2009
And they finished on the wrong side of .500 in 2010.
That ultimately may be why Fisher was fired. He got nada when it mattered most after an incredibly successful 2008 season, and then failed to make the playoffs in subsequent seasons.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 10, 2011 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
He hasn't but....
this isn’t really about VY personally as much as its talking about that “style” of QB. Since we are comparing Cam to VY I am wondering if, say, the Bills take Cam, could he have the same general success on the field using the same style of play that VY did, especially if the team actually built around him and his playing style instead of trying to make him into something else?
And yes… I realize I used “Bills” and “success” in the same sentence.
by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 11, 2011 5:35 AM CST up reply actions
Buffalo is the most likely landing spot
Chan Gailey has worked w/ other non-conventional QB’s and seems to be willing, more so than other HC, to drastically adjust his offense to fit his skills! Thats what its going to take…
I wonder if ANY QB or team using that style of play can ever truly be successful!!
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Turns out of was incorrect on the tender
It is a 1st & 3rd…but not that it means much. If the teams wanted to get it done they could.
I think you guys might be putting too much into his injuries and tread on the tires so to speak. He’s only topped 200 carries twice in 6 seasons. Since becoming the starter in 2008 he started 37 games in 3 seasons: 16 in 08; 13 in 09; and only 6 last year. All were ankle injuries I believe but nothing major such as ACL or MCL. I think the only reason he went on IR in ’10 was the season was already lost early…he remained on the roster for a couple weeks before they decided to shut him down.
But I imagine none of that changes your overall position on my question which is fair enough. You gave me what I was looking for so in that I thank you!
No one will give up a 1st and 3rd for a RB…
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There is only one person who would be that dumb.
Al Davis would, even though he has Darren McFadden AND Michael Bush…
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 10, 2011 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
Our ground game is not a problem of RB's, it's the OL
This simply would be a wasted 1st Round Pick by us. We already have Grant and Starks, while retaining the same OL that struggles to run block. An offensive line is what we need! We are set at RG with Josh Sitton and have OT Bryan Bulaga. After them, we need help. Clifton won’t be around much longer and he’s now overrated considering he was just in the Pro Bowl.
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Yeah a lot of people who don't really know the Pack seem to think our running problems can be magically solved by inserting an elite RB
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by Chief Oshkosh on Mar 9, 2011 4:59 PM CST up reply actions
I've seen that a lot at Mocking the Draft
but I think after I and a few other Packer fans there put out our thoughts, people are starting to realize what the problem is.
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I've been fighting that battle for a couple months now.
I even wrote a long FanPost summarizing our season and explaining the situation. Most of the people there that are willing to listen to others are moving away from giving us an early back. But there are still plenty of mockers that think they no more than we do.
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Yeah, that's the unfortunate part
Just makes you want to bang your head against the wall because of their stupidity. Let them embarrass themselves I guess.
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I can't believe
there are 11 votes that Williams is not worth the 32nd pick in the draft. I agree it’s not the right move for the Packers, but in my opinion it is a no-brainer that he is worth just about any 1st round pick.
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I voted that
I didn’t want to vote that the Packers don’t need a RB, we could definitely use one. To me, it came down to the fact that I don’t think he’s worth it for the Packers to spend the 32nd pick on him. With certain teams, I would give up much more than the 32nd pick, but with the RBs we have right now, and TT’s drafting ability, I don’t think it’s worth it for GB to do it.
Maybe I was wrong to choose that option, but as someone who voted that, that’s my reasoning.
"They’re good players. They’re basically all the same guy, except for Jordy Nelson is Caucasian."
--Ryan Clark, Pittsburgh S, on the Green Bay receivers
I voted that way too.
Nothing against Williams, but giving up a late 1st rounder for a 27 year old RB (with the 30 year old wall just 3 years away), an injury issue last season, and 1000 career touches on his legs doesn’t make any sense.
He was worth a 1st rounder in 2006, but 5 seasons of wear and tear only diminishes his value by a dozen picks or so?
Please. This isn’t even a tough call. I might give a 3rd rounder for him. MIGHT.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 9, 2011 7:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He's worth a 1st rounder
Just not with GB. Even so, as GB I’d give up our pick at the end of the 2nd for him in a heart beat.
"They’re good players. They’re basically all the same guy, except for Jordy Nelson is Caucasian."
--Ryan Clark, Pittsburgh S, on the Green Bay receivers
Brandon Marshall brought just a 2nd round pick a year ago.
He’s younger and at a position where talent is more scarce.
McNabb brought a 2 and a conditional 3 or 4, and he was thought of as a starting, franchise QB.
Anquan Boldin and a 5 netted the Cards a 3 and a 4.
Leon Washington and a 6 netted the Jets pick # 139 last draft.
Heck, Brett Freaking Favre only netted a conditional 1st rounder if he had taken the Jets to the SuperBowl.
Last draft, a bunch of #1’s changed hands. The most popular compensation? Other #1 picks. An 11 pick jump in the 1st round cost the Broncos their #1 and two #3’s. A 16 pick jump for the Chargers cost them a 1, a 2, a 4 and a player.
You’re underestimating the value of a 1st round pick. A straight player for pick trade that nets a team a 1st rounder is really very rare these days. Williams plays at one of the most talent-rich positions in the league. Any team that gives up a #1 for him is run by a fantasy football GM, not an NFL GM (yeah, I’m looking at you Dan Snyder).
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 9, 2011 10:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Way to go BrINT...
Could have had a 1st if you had not chosen to play injured the last 6 games for the NYJ!!! Assss Ho LOL
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He probably thought about that and did it out of spite against GB
knowing how the rest of the story turned out.
by PhoenicianPakFan on Mar 10, 2011 5:37 AM CST up reply actions
All those guys other than McNabb and maybe Washington wanted out
Philly wanted to dump McNabb, and I don’t know the Washington situation. When a player tries to force his way out, the teams making the offers know that they can short change the team. I haven’t heard any of that from Williams. btw, Jay Cutler was worth a 1st and some more. Williams is more of a franchise player than Jay Cutler could ever be.
"They’re good players. They’re basically all the same guy, except for Jordy Nelson is Caucasian."
--Ryan Clark, Pittsburgh S, on the Green Bay receivers
Cutler's a QB acquired two years ago..
… by a team that thought it was a QB away. How well that trade is thought of by NFL brass is basically underscored by how much less McNabb brought.
QB’s are worth more than RBs, period. You know that. We all know that Thompson isn’t going to cut a deal like this. If Williams is traded, he’s not going to bring Carolina a 1 in return. Wait and see…
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 10, 2011 5:19 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think TT will trade for him
but, I think he’d be worth a 1st to a lot of teams. QBs are worth more, but Williams is more of a game changer than Cutler is. That was my point.
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Cutler's a game changer
How’d that other team get the ball? Oh, I threw it to them?
13.
by Wiedmann on Mar 10, 2011 12:15 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
McNabb and Favre was CLEARLY at the end of their best years…
Boldin was leaving ARI on bad terms under very a big contract dispute. He forced his way out of town and the team had no bargaining power
Washington was coming off a HUGE broken leg, poor example…here’s a reminder of this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFw0fUsWU38
Williams is still in the peak of his career. Its not as high value of a pick but if you are looking for a RB and you could have a rookie that has a 50/50 shot at making it or virtually a guarantee in Williams…I’d take Williams especially if I felt I had a chance at being something this year. I don’t think the Panthers will get a first, but maybe a 2nd and another.
Keep in mind though…we aren’t talking about a normal 1st. This is basically a second rounder. The value of the 32nd pick is VERY low even compared to the 15th.
1st pick = 3000
16th pick = 1000
32nd pick = 590
64th pick = 270
This just illustrates that the 32nd pick really actually doesn’t hold the kind of value you think it does.
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I didn't say the 32 was worth the same as a 15.
I said it’s worth more than Williams.
When was the last time somebody gave up a 1st round pick for a RB in a trade? I honestly don’t recall, but in a league where teams are increasingly reluctant to spend 1st round picks on RBs, why would they give up a 1, even a late 1, on a running back who’s career is probably more than half over? Who’s coming off an injury shortened year? That doesn’t make any sense, and the trades listed above demonstrate how reluctant GMs are to give up 1’s unless they’re getting a draft pick back that’s only slightly lower.
I doubt they’ll trade Williams, but if they do, we’ll see if I’m right. I’ll be shocked if anyone gives up a 1 for him.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 10, 2011 5:23 AM CST up reply actions
I never said you said that. I was making a point about the value of a first round pick and how OUR first round pick isn’t worth the same as others. What you DID say was
You’re underestimating the value of a 1st round pick.
My point was just that OUR first isn’t worth the same as others and that our first isn’t really worth much different than our second.
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Tell Thompson that our 1st isn't worth much more than our 2nd and see if he agrees.
I’d take a couple of RB’s in the draft at 32 before I’d deal it for a 27 year old guy coming off an injury.
But I’d take a dozen or so guys likely to drop before I’d take any RB…
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 11, 2011 6:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not even a Fantasy GM would do that.
I drafted DeAngelo WIlliams this past year. Ugh…
What made it even worse was that my 2nd back was Ryan Grant.
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I had an autodraft that picked DeAngelo for me
I was not pleased. I dealt him along with Vick (who I picked up off the street) for MJD & another QB (Roethlisberger?), because I already had Philip Rivers. It worked out okay for me.
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Okay, what did you hack on the autodraft in order to get Philip Rivers?
He probably won 90% of your games by himself…
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 10, 2011 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
I got him with the 1st pick of the 4th round
Rodgers, Brees, P. Manning, Romo, & Schaub all went before him.
I set my board to pick the players I wanted in each round, lowering the rank of the players I thought wouldn’t be there (as a result, I picked Finley instead of Gates in the 3rd, oops!).
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it's not a direct pick-for-player value
Packers already have decent RBs, and have more pressing needs to address in the draft. It’s not that Williams isn’t worth a 1st rounder, it’s that the Packers would see greater benefit by drafting a quality young DE, OT, or OLB than to upgrade slightly at RB
by rip_city_swagger on Mar 10, 2011 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
That's why I voted:
No, we don’t need a RB.
It may not be 100% true, but to me it’s the truest of the three possible choices.
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Why would we bail the Panthers out of their incessant use of high draft picks on RBs?
This isn’t the 80’s or even the 90’s where it seemed like you had to spend a 1 on an RB to get a guy that was worth it. This is 2011. If we’re going to spend a 1st rounder on an RB, and my guess is that’s not going to happen, I’d prefer to spend it on a guy with a lot less miles than Williams. If you think TT would bite on that, it’s time to put down the $10 brownies.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 9, 2011 7:33 PM CST reply actions
The Bills seem to use a 1st on an RB every few years and . . .
oh wait, it didn’t work too well for them, did it?
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by I voted for Kodos on Mar 9, 2011 7:49 PM CST up reply actions
Even with the brownies....
while watching 2001: A Space Odyssey at the same time, that thought is still pretty far fetched.
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- Former high-school star Brian Banks does serious time on trumped-up charge, now hopes for an NFL shot
- Former ‘idiot kicker’ Mike Vanderjagt in trouble after accosting junior-high heckler
- Adrian Peterson blows teammates away in footraces; appears to be on the mend
- UPDATE: Charlie Sheen didn’t buy Lawrence Taylor’s Super Bowl ring
- Alex Smith gets blown up by Jon Beason over Cam Newton comments
