Draft Prospect #6
Continuing my series on the Packers most likely picks w/ the 32nd overall selection in the NFL draft... He enters the NFL draft after a highly productive college career in the Big 10. He is a player who fits a team and scheme need and is generally considered among the top 30-45 prospects.
Cameron Heyward is a 6'5" 295 lb DE from Ohio St... Heyward was a 3 yr starter at OSU and possesses prototypical size for a 34 DE. He enters the NFL ready to play and will need limited developmental time. However, he also doesn't have the upside of a Watt or Jordan. Basically, he is the opposite of Muhammad Wilkerson, who has excellent long term potential but needs alot more time to develop. The son of former NFL player Craid "Ironhead" Heyward, Cameron is looking to create his own legacy apart from his father (god rest his soul). He has excellent versatility and has played all over the DL for the Buckeyes. He has the strength, athleticism and effort needed to contribute early in his rookie season, needing only to gain 10-15 lbs and brush up on some technical aspects before becoming a full-time starter.
Heyward has very good athleticism and terrific length as a 34 DE. He uses his length, good quickness and agility to get a jump of the ball in pass rush. But is not a player who will ever be able to threaten the edge. He will get some sacks, but they will come thru hard work and determination, not elite ability as a pass rusher. Heyward is a difficult matchup for OG's using his long arms and agility inside to gain seperation from the Gaurd to pressure the QB, but has trouble with OT, where his arms and hands aren't as effective in seperating or as advantageous. When rushing inside he can also be disruptive in passing lanes due to his long arms.
When playing the run, Heyward plays with power, gets a good push to collapse and hold the edge. He is very good in gap discipline and attacks the ball when its in his area.. Due to his height and length he is susceptible to cut blocks and has to learn to use his hands and long arms better to keep blockers off his legs. Though able to play both sides, Heyward projects best as a LDE in a 34 because of his ability to hold the point vs double teams and when allowed to he can even get penetration vs doubles. Heyward is well suited and able to eat up blockers using leverage and anchor to hold up at the LOS. He is a better player when attacking the ball as opposed to chasing it.
Overall Heyward has above average strength, power, length and athletic ability to become a good 34 DE. He lacks in the change of direction ability to become a great pass rusher and it will limit him chasing vs the run. Heyward is a strong tackler and uses his long arms very well to latch on, wrap up and bring the runner down. He can be an explosive tackler also. As a comparison, Heyward has Marcus Spears written all over him. He is a perfect 34 DE prospect who will do his job very well, but don't expect anything like Richard Seymour production or playmaking. He will be a very solid player and contrubutor, but will never post gaudy numbers. Heyward is well liked by teammates, was a team captain and appears to really have fun playing the game and making it fun for teammates!
Are you willing to draft Heyward at #32, even tho he isn't going to be a playmaker? Or would you rather have Wilkerson who has more upside, but will take much longer to develop? Wilkerson may not be available at 32, but chances are very good that Heyward will be there for the taking if you want him.
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I’d take Heyward at 32. I think he’ll be a solid contributor for a 3-4 team. He’s strong against the run, and can at least offer something from time to time in terms of a pass rush. I’m not sure who I’d take if Wilkerson and him were there. I’d say Wilkerson because I think we can give him the opportunity to develop but I wouldn’t mind Heyward either.
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Heyward
Is a solid choice and ready to contribute, but I would go w/ Wilkerson based on potential and his not being forced to contribute immediately. Packers can afford to draft him and give him a year or so… Heyward would be down my list a little, but most of the prospects ahead of him could be gone. Hopefully an OT, OLB or Wilkerson will fall to us.
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Hopefully an OT, OLB or Wilkerson will fall to us.
I’m with ya! I’m really hoping one of those fall. I’m optimistic that they will as I think we’ll see a run on QB’s either mid or late in the 1st round.
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by packallday555 on Apr 20, 2011 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep
I wouldn’t be very happy with Heyward. He just seems like a space eater to me.
"I'm tired of pretending I'm not a rock star from Mars."
He's inconsistent from what I've read
Some scouts said he has a motor, but I never saw it. I’m not too fond of him, but I won’t really be upset if we take him. Ayers is the big bust i’m looking at, and I’m going to react the same way as to when we drafted Justin Harrell if we draft Ayers. Just look at his highlights and scouting reports. There’s a reason many scouts are thinking he’s better suited to be a 4-3 OLB or 3-4 ILB.
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That might be your answer.
I’m kind of meh on him. I’m not going to complain if I see him on mocks, but I’m not going to be asking for him either.
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He is kinda a meh, pick...
Can’t deny that…. And not generally what I want from a 1st round pick, but we won’t have that much to chose from at 32.
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Unless too many QB are taken early...
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Yeah, I get that...
Right now I see only 3, maybe 4 going in the 1st. I just don’t think teams reaching for Dalton, Kaepernick or Mallett in the 1st. They should go top to mid 2nd, IMO. Personally, the only QB’s I would take in the 1st are Gabbert and Ponder, w/ Locker being a fringe 1st.
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Newton is a very raw pro prospect.
Byron Leftwich would be proud.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Apr 20, 2011 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Umm... Uh... 36?
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Apr 20, 2011 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe the number you meant was 42.
What the heck does 36 mean? Nick Collins?
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Apr 21, 2011 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions
I was referring to the Gruden camp with Newton. Gruden asked Cam to rattle off a play call from Auburn, and he couldn’t come up with anything. he just said they had numbers for their plays (36 is the one he gave). “Simplicity is fast” or something like that is what he said.
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Unfortunately....
that may not drop his stock at all. Plus its not really his fault that college coaches don’t teach their QBs anything to get them ready for the pros.
by PhoenicianPakFan on Apr 21, 2011 1:44 AM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't be so sure.
If I were a GM it surely would. That combined w/ his pedestrian (below average) wonderlic would send shivers up my spine if I were thinking about drafting him.
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He could've picked a different school to play for
So he is at just as much fault.
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And who says Newton's capabilities weren't taken into account when designing play calls?
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C'mon really?
Most of these college programs are built around less QB reading/complexity and more coach reading the defense and calling quick read plays. How many teams use the “cue cards” on the sidelines, how many have the offense look back instead of let the QB read the defense and act? These coaches make tons of money for going to bowl games and they don’t put their contract extensions in the hands of 18 year old kids.
But thats college football. Its so big that they can’t afford to let the kids learn how to play, they have to win with the program year in and year out or they lose their coaching jobs.
Its like Omaha said, “What’s an example of a verbal play call you used at Auburn?” “Umm, 36. We used cue cards on the sidelines.”
by PhoenicianPakFan on Apr 21, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
I was just trying to point out the players are at just as much fault for choosing the school. They know when they go to run these kind of offenses that if they are successful, they will accumulate good stats. They also understand the risks of playing in such offenses as it doesn’t teach them things like going through progressions.
The coaches keep it simple to keep the burden off the QB. The coach wants to win now, and doesn’t want to dedicate extra time in teaching the QB things he’ll learn in the NFL.
It’s a 50/50 blame ratio. Every High School QB Prospect has a choice in where they want to play their college ball.
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Well I suppose ultimately the kids make the choice..
but its tough to pass up a big name program and I don’t think many of these kids look at how ready they will be for the NFL four or five years down the road when they are getting recruited by these pro recruiters who heap all this praise and bright lights stuff on them knowing they’ll take the bait.
by PhoenicianPakFan on Apr 21, 2011 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah I know Newton has great potential..
I wouldn’t take him in the 1st… Others might and I’ll let them make that mistake!
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supposedly some teams are looking at Dalton
to be the third QB taken. For some reason, teams are in love with him.
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Just like teams were in love with Colt McCoy and David Greene.
They won a lot in college, and winning can and will cover for a person’s mechanics and accuracy issues. McCoy’s still not proven, Greene was a bust.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Apr 22, 2011 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions
McCoy wasn't too terribly bad for the time he had...
and the Browns do seem to be pretty high on him still. I think they see him as their QB going forward, from what I’ve heard.
by PhoenicianPakFan on Apr 22, 2011 5:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I think he’ll be a solid starter for them. He definitely looked pretty good in his time.
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by packallday555 on Apr 22, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Just make sure he doesn't have to play against Suh and the Lions too much.
He might curl up into the fetal position behind center.
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They have him as a QB
but he has very little at receiver.
Brian Robiskie sucks.
Mohammed Massaquoi’s good for a young player, but I think he’d be a better option for the slot.
Chansi Stuckey is not that good.
Demetrius Williams and Jordan Norwood have never recorded a reception for the Browns.
Robert Royal will not be back, and he contributed very little.
Ben Watson had a career season, and was easily their best option. Peyton Hillis also did a very good job in the passing game, with 61 receptions.
Cleveland needs a true number one receiver for Colt McCoy. If Julio Jones makes it to them, he should most definitely be their pick.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Apr 22, 2011 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Heyward
he seems to be an unselfish player. He showed up in the big games over his career (the exception being the Wisconsin game this year, hehe), and COMPLETELY pantsed DeMarcus Love at the Sugar Bowl. He also tuned up Charles Brown in the 2009 U$C-Ohio State game, and had a huge sack against Iowa this year that really turned up the gas on the Hawkeyes.
He might not be a 10-sack per year kind of DE in the NFL, but few 3-4 DE’s are. He’s a very solid prospect who can contribute from any position on the line.
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