Bears targeting Cullen Jenkins?
by White92 on Apr 6, 2011 12:40 PM CDT
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There is always risk in letting one of your players go to free agency, but the Chicago Bears are one team that I would not want to see Jenkins play for. Chicago has not been shy in paying free agents, so this is a real possibility. A move like this would definately add more spice to the rivalry (as if it needs any), but do you think Jenkins has much left in the tank? I don't think the Packers would panic and stray from their plan if the plan was to let him go to free agency just because the Bears are interested.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/06/cullen-jenkins-looks-like-a-target-for-bears/
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Oh Hell No
Not Jenkins, Idonije, Peppers, and Liuget (or the like) on one D-Line, seriously that could basically make Offensive Line upgrades much more needed.
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Don't forget Wootton.
He showed some talent in limited action, but he was wedged behind Harris, Idonije, Adams, and Peppers. Not exactly an easy path to playing time…
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Apr 6, 2011 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Do they even have cap room?
After signing Peppers to that bajillion-dollar contract?
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Jenkins to the bears?
As with Peppers he might make them better in the very short term. But Jenkins might not have alot left. He’s been injured quite a bit the past few years! If the bears want to overpay for another aging DE/DT let them… They’re still grasping at straws to keep up w/ the Packers, but its almost catching up to them. They will be very old in another year or 2… He will be free to go where he wants, if he wants to play for the bears against the SB champs twice let him!
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by Strohman on Apr 6, 2011 1:06 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Pretty much this....
there isn’t really any FA leaving GB that I truly fear being on another team, nor has there been recently. Although Favre almost messed that up in ’09.
For the most part, though these guys have a year to two left and could cause some problems, they aren’t that big of game changers to where you need to alter any plans to cater to them opposing you. I mean, if they could take 2 of 3 from the Bears with Peppers, they can do it with Jenkins on the team too.
by PhoenicianPakFan on Apr 6, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
eh…I don’t know. I think this is the classic “they guy is moving on so now I have nothing good to say about him” kinda stance. I see it all the time and I am sure I have done it from time to time too. Jenkins has plenty left in the tank though and honestly I don’t want to see him on the Bears. Not so much cause it makes me fear the Bears but moreso cause he’s a good guy that I like and I don’t wnat to see a guy like him on a team like that!
I have a hard time believing the bears really have the money to bring him in though anyway…
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I don't want to see him on the bears either.
But I aint sweating it… Loved what Jenkins brought, expecially in pass rush, but he has missed too many games the past few years! And I think the number of injuries is only going to increase as he gets older. Would much rather he go somewhere we don’t have to see him, cuz he would be really motivated vs the Pack… Jenkins was a good player and a good teammate tho… I don’t deny that at all. He won’t suddenly make the bears better than the Packers…
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You're probably right for the short term...
he’s still got a lot left, which makes me not want him in the division. But he wants long term, lots of money and he’s not worth it over the course of the contract. Over 30 and long term contract is like kryptonite to Thomposon. You better be a team leader and class act like Driver if you want that.
He could be a problem on another division team, but if Thompson didn’t even start talking contract with his agent (which is what Jenkins said) then he seems to think he’s not worth that much.
I guess we’ll see, but I trust Thompson on this one. Hopefully he’s right.
by PhoenicianPakFan on Apr 6, 2011 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Alot left...
Do you really think so? He’s 31 already isn’t he? If he is, how much longer do you think he can be a quality pass rusher? IMO, another 2 yrs max! I can’t see him being a 34 yr old quality pass rusher. And Jenkins isn’t signing a 2 or 3 yr contract, it’ll take a 4 yr contract to sign him, IMO. That means your giving a huge bonus to a player for 2 good years… Like I said, let the bears over pay for him now! We’ve already gotten his best years!
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Yup, exactly what I think
He may have a couple years left at most. He will demand something longer, and will never give the team the production for the cost. Let the Bears have him for a couple good years and blow 5 years of cap space for it.
by PhoenicianPakFan on Apr 6, 2011 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
No one should disagree that whoever gets him will be overpaying for him in the long run. But in the short run (next 2 years, maybe 3 years) it’ll be worth it to whoever gets him, and especially for a team like the Bears who have a closing window.
They know they’re going to have to rebuild in few years. I’m sure they’d accept overpaying for Jenkins if they feel like he can take their defense to the next level and help them win a Super Bowl. Kind of like the Vikings did this past season paying Favre a $16 million bonus.
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by packallday555 on Apr 7, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
I would agree..
The good news is that the Bears will be decimated in a couple of years when Urlacher, Briggs, and Peppers begin serious decline.
Short run you are right..Jenkins would help them.
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Not like they had ultimately hoped. But it resulted in a better season then Jackson or Rosenfels would have been able to give them.
And just because it didn’t work out for them doesn’t mean it wouldn’t for the Bears. We already had enough trouble their defensive line. Adding Jenkins too it, would only make it that much more difficult.
I don’t think anyone can deny that adding him would improve a defense that’s already very good.
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by packallday555 on Apr 7, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
It won't help if he is missing alot of game like he has the past few years!
Like I said originally, he MIGHT make them better in the very short term!
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Might? The only way it doesn’t imo if he misses the entire season. He’ll produce if he plays, just like he always has. And their defense will be better as a result.
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by packallday555 on Apr 7, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You don't know that for sure..
Nobody does. So MIGHT… Its been over 2 years since he played in a 43 D, how can you say w/ certainty that he still can? Its also possible that at 31 yrs old he loses the burst that made him effective.
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Possible yeah, I just doubt it happens. I guess we’ll see.
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by packallday555 on Apr 7, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
And you don’t know that he doesn’t have 4-5 great years in him so might goes both ways. It could end up being a genius move for them too.
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Yeah, this is kind of my thinking. I feel like Jenkins has been one of the most underrated DL in the entire NFL — in both the 4-3 and 3-4 defense. He’s got the size of a DT but the quickness and pass rushing ability of a DE.
It’s scary to think about him going to the Bears because they need a 3 tech DT, and I think he’d do that damn well. Then you factor in that they have Peppers and Idonije on that DL too, and things could get scary. That defense could be back to the form it was at in 2006 when Tommie Harris was actually a good player.
I mean yeah, he could go there and just be a bust and not worth it but I don’t really see that happening. He’s a very talented player. Too me, thinking that he won’t succeed — given his talent and the players he’d have around — is somewhat unrealistic.
The only difference is, now they actually have somewhat of an offense.
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by packallday555 on Apr 8, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree with you about him being one of the most underated DL's in the whole NFL
I don’t know what he’s asking but I’m thinking he wants to be paid like one of the best DLineman in the NFL. If that is the case TT is smart to stay away. His injury history, and being in the 30 year old club makes him to big of a risk for top dollars. I’ll be curious to see what he ends up getting if it was up to me I’d pay him similar to his last contract 6-7 mill a year and take the chance he’ll stay healthy and productive. I just get the feeling he wants the 10plus I wouldn’t want any part of that.
Yeah, I think that’s what he wants and agree it’s smart for Thompson not to pay him that. Neal looked really good in his time early on last season, so it doesn’t really make sense to overpay for Jenkins.
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by packallday555 on Apr 9, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Jenkins history
In the past 3 seasons Jenkins has only started 23 of a possible 48 games! Why? He’s was the undisputed starting RDE… At 31 his injury history says he misses far too many games, and its FAR more likely it gets worse, not better!!
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OH I agree…I was just being devil’s advocate on that one. Sure he might only have 2 years but he might have 5 we just don’t know. But you are right, he’s only started 16 games once in his career but he wasn’t a FT starter right away either.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Apr 7, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Remember Reggie White?
He was 32 when we signed him…how did THAT work out?
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Your not seriously comparing Jenkins to Reggie are you?
And Reggie never missed a game in his life to that point! Jenkins has started only 23 of 48 games the past 3 seasons!
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you brought up a guy who at 30 changed teams and did poorly so I did the same with one who changed teams and did as good. If you take that as me calling Jenkins Reggie that is your own issue. The illustration was VERY clear.
By the way Joe Johnson had injuries in 2 of his previous 3 years going into the Packers. He was a calculated risk that failed. But there are plenty that pay off too.
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Jenkins
Is far more like Joe Johnson than he is Reggie White! Is that illustration clear to you?! If you cant see that, thats your issue (to borrow your words).
He’s had injuries 2 of the past 3 years that caused him to miss significant portions of the season! Just like you mentioned Johnson did…
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haha
you just illustrated that you actually didn’t get my illustration which is pretty funny. Either that or decided to ignore it to make a point that never needed to be made which knowing your history is the more likely option.
so in that case, thanks for making a point that we all know and never needed to be made. The world is a better place now that we know that. sigh.
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by TrevorR on Apr 9, 2011 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Oh I got the illustation.
I laughed at it cuz it was ridiculous! And brought you back to reality, to the real illustration, the one that actually applies!
Given your history you probably don’t see the significance of the relevant one!
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wow…your last 3 responses to posts to me have been basically taking my post and changing the words around. Maybe you should follow Brandon’s lead and take some time away for a few days to come up with some original thoughts.
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Or maybe you should quite being condesending
And I won’t have to do it…
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by Strohman on Apr 10, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dude there is a reason why most arguments in here involve you and someone…look in the mirror.
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by TrevorR on Apr 11, 2011 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
And where did this one come from?
If you call it one… You brought a comparison w/ Reggie and I pointed out that Reggie and Jenkins was a horrible comparison. You brought the ridiculous into the discussion, and for what purpose?
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No I never compared their playing at all. THAT IS WHAT YOU STILL DON’T GET! You are the only one comparing their playing. I was mearly stating that he was actually older when he was signed as a free agent and played well far beyond 35. You are the only one making ridiculous comparisons and arguing about if Jenkins is better than White. We all know he isn’t so I don’t know why you keep mentioning it.
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I totally see it...
That Reggie wasan older FA… Still doesn’t change the fact its a ridiculous comparison/illustration cuz Reggie was a once in a generation, HOF player and Jenkins has never been even beeen a pro bowler. So you do the Reggie signing w/ that knowledge, whereas w/ Jenkins you do it w/ the knowledge he’s not that kinda player and Is injury prone.
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Just cause Reggie is a Pro Bowler doesn’t mean he’s going to play at that level any longer than anyone else. Either there is usually a dropoff or their isn’t. It was a point and counterpoint. You cited someone around his age that signed and then fell off, I cited one that signed around that age and maintained. No where did I say Cullen is Reggie or that he has anything else in common…it was all inferred.
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He just turned 30 in January
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Did I make a big deal? Just stating the fact for you…settle down tonto.
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No you didn't and neither did I
30 yrs old or 31 it matters little. settle down tonto.
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Who the hell do they think they are?
Minnesota??
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by mike_o on Apr 6, 2011 4:33 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Lol I just said something like this in the new post about this topic...
having not read this comment yet.
So rec for you and sorry for repeating. Its just too tempting though. =)
by PhoenicianPakFan on Apr 6, 2011 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Wouldn't surprise me at all...
Especially given Jerry Angelo’s patented lack of a draft strategy, year-in, year-out…
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Apr 6, 2011 6:15 PM CDT reply actions
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