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Draft Prospect #3


Continuing my series on the Packers most likely draft picks w/ the 32nd pick in the draft...  This is a player who has been on the radar since he declared for the draft as a true Jr.  He fits a need of the team and is generally rated in the Top 20-35 players.  Sound familiar?  LOL

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Akeem Ayers is a 6'3, 254 lb OLB from UCLA.  He is a player who consistently showed up on tape and is known as a playmaker.  He shows excellent athletic ability and agility for the position, but may lack elite speed.  That is really the big question with Ayers...  Does he really have the speed to be a top shelf OLB and pass rusher?  It seems from watching film he does, but it isn't shown on the stopwatch.  So you are left wondering what Ayers true potential at the next level will be.

Ayers is a true SAM LB in either the 34 or 43 defense and offers tremendous scheme versatility, as he can easily play outside or inside in both schemes.  He is adept in coverage, using his unusual quickness and fluidity to stay w/ RB and TE alike.  He has very good ball skills and is also a playmaker in coverage, which is shown by his 6 INT's and 2 TD's scored.  If Ayers didn't become the dominant OLB that your looking for, his versatility and ability to easily slide to ILB would still make him a very good player and starter for most teams.  He also has the ability to breakdown is space and make the tackle.

In run defense, Ayers has the size, strength and willingness to maintain gap discipline and make plays.  Ayers can use his long arms to effectively disengage from blockers and the ability to work thru traffic to make plays down the LOS.  He can get a little high in tackling, but it is more of a technical issue that should go away w/ good coaching on technique.  He at times overruns plays to the outside, but uses his length to still make the tackle.  So while it may be a weakness, he does make the play!  To be more effective at the next level Ayers would do well to increase his lower body strength, which may also improve his explosiveness as a pass rusher.

As a pass rusher, Ayers uses a good burst of the ball and quicknesss to cross the OT's face and has the flexibility to dip his shoulder, flatten out around the corner and close on the QB.  Ayers, while a good pass rusher, at the moment isn't an elite one, either in production or potential.  In college, he used almost exclusively his speed and quickness to beat the OT and is very raw from a technical standpoint.  This will be a limiting factor in the NFL, as he lacks the elite explosiveness most pass rushers have.  However, with work on the technical aspects of pass rushing and increased explosiveness by improving his leg strength he could become a very good, if not elite pass rusher!

Ayers is a very well rounded overall OLB prospect with some potential to improve on his only real weakness, his pass rushing productivity.  The question your left with is...  Do you trust what you see on tape or do you downgrade him significantly for his average speed?  He ran only a 4.8 40 at the combine and 4.7 at his pro day.  He does have a good bust, as his 1.66 10 split shows, tho it isn't as explosive as you would like.  If you believe he can improve his pass rush technique, which he should, and his explosiveness Ayers can become one of the better overall OLB in the NFL.  He may not ever be a 12 -15 sack player, but could easily become a 10 sack player.

It would be very interesting to see which way Thompson and Capers would go at OLB if both Houston and Ayers were available at 32!  Would they go with the scheme versatility and potential of Ayers or the pass rush of Justin Houston?  What do you think?

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Like Ayers.

He can do more than just rush the passer. His stats suggest he is very versatile and dynamic as Stroh! stated. That said, his pass rushing ability isn’t in the same league as Houston’s and houston also moves well so I’ll take him.

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by BlackPack-fan on Apr 9, 2011 2:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Personally

I would go w/ Houston too… Tho a case can be made that Ayers scheme versatility and lack of experience as a pass rusher gives him more overall potential. Just depends on if he can become a double digit sack player. If he can Ayers is the man, if not Houston should be the pick.

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by Strohman on Apr 9, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting.

Mike Mayock has Houston as the 5th rated OLB, behind Miller, Ayers, Bruce Carter, and Mock.

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by Omaha Sun on Apr 12, 2011 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

As an overall prospect

That ranking might be close. Carter is coming off ACL surgery tho and Moch is a workout wonder who probably will be a bust… Mock is just my opinion…

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by Strohman on Apr 12, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

While Ayers may be a good OLB

Houston seems like the better 3-4 OLB due to his pass rushing ability. I wouldn’t mind either, but would prefer Houston

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by Kuhl on Apr 9, 2011 3:43 PM CDT reply actions  

OLB

On pass rush alone, yeah Houston is the better player. The question is how much value is placed on other aspects, specifically coverage or TFL? Also how much potential Ayers has as a pass rusher. To us, as fans, pass rush trumps all else, but to HC and GM’s that may not be the case…

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by Strohman on Apr 9, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

to some extent

3-4 OLB plays the role of a 4-3 DE. They do need to be able to drop back, but there are several very good 3-4 OLB who have suspect coverage skills. The positive with Ayers, would be that CM3 would continue to be able to rush as much as he does, while Houston may force him to play a bit more coverage. I like Houston more, but I wouldn’t mind Ayers either.

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by Kuhl on Apr 9, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree

Totally about Matthews being a pure pass rusher. Houston would likely push him into a little more coverage, and its something I mentioned in another article. Tho that can create uncertainty for the offense however. I think coaches and GM’s place a little more value on versatility than we do. Tho Pass rush is still most important I would guess.

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by Strohman on Apr 9, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good arguments for either Houston or Ayers, but I would also go with Houston.

With that said, though, Ayers is one heck of a consolation prize if Justin is already off the board at #32.

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by mike_o on Apr 9, 2011 4:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Tough call

Another great pass rusher would help make up for the impending loss of Jenkins, and you can never have too good of a pass rush. So I guess I lean towards Houston. However, our LBs aren’t great in coverage and we already have CM3 rushing from one side, so I’d be quite happy with Ayers as well. When I heard he ran a poor 40 at the combine I was happy because I think 40 times are a little overrated and it might make him available at 32. I know he’s slipped a bit on most mock drafts, but I don’t think that necessarily correlates with reality. I guess we’ll know by the end of the month.

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by I voted for Kodos on Apr 10, 2011 1:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Comparison

How does Ayers compare with Lamar Woodley?

by Tedaldtada29 on Apr 10, 2011 8:36 AM CDT reply actions  

He doesn't IMO... Completely different players from different backgrounds and types of games.

Woodley 6’2 270 was a college DE was a very good college pass rusher. Ayers 6’3 255 was a college LB who played all over the field and is very good in coverage. They are similar in speed, both running in the 4.7 area, Ayers in exceptionally quick, Woodley has better explosiveness off the ball, don’t know his quickness numbers… Ayers is an all around OLB.

In run D, w/o knowing for sure, Woodley is more stout, bigger and stronger. Woodley was a DE at Mich, so you would expect that he would be better vs run. Not that Ayer is weak at run D by any means, just not quite as strong at the point of attack… Ayers won’t set the edge as well as Woodley, but will make more plays down the LOS.

Woodley is close to being a great pass rusher, whereas Ayers isn’t… Ayers wasn’t asked to rush the QB alot in college. THat was Woodley’s primary job at Mich. Ayers has the potential to get better at it and can become a good one. But he has work to do.

 No comparison in coverage Ayers is outstanding, using his quickness and fluidity to stay w/ TE and RB. Woodley has had to learn this in the NFL and still mostly drops into zones. Ayers can play man or zone. THis is what Ayers was asked to do quite a bit of at UCLA.

Woodley is a pure power player, Ayers is not as powerful, but has more all around experience and skill who plays w/ a combination of quickness and strenth. Just different players, who are hard to compare really. Hope I did OK job trying.

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by Strohman on Apr 10, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

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by BlackPack-fan on Apr 12, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

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by TrevorR on Apr 14, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Draft

I would love an answer to this question.
In recent history the draft is seven rounds. Wih no CBA in
existence, could owners chose an alternate draft number,
as 10 rounds, or even 16 or 20 rounds?

by royber on Apr 10, 2011 1:21 PM CDT reply actions  

They could

but I think they will stick with the current format. It’s not like the system wasn’t working.

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by Wiedmann on Apr 10, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was watching NFL Network the other day...

Charles Davis ~ Basically was asked who is over-rated and who he would stay away from in this draft… and his answer was Ayers… Not to burst anyones bubble… Or to say anyone is wrong in wanting the Packers to draft him… I tried to find the segment so I could add a link… but, I couldn’t find it… I’m sure it was on “Path to the Draft”

Personally, from everything I’ve read and seen, there’s a good chance neither Houston or Ayers will be available at #32… Would be a great position for TT to be in to choose between the two though… Will be interesting to see where we go, who falls, and who TT thinks is the BPA… : )

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by BirdDogUni on Apr 10, 2011 2:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Whats up Brent?

I would be OK w/ Ayers, but he doesn’t really cause you to be awed by his play. Probably cuz of the lack of sacks. The question is if he can get better as a pass rusher. His play was really good in college, but the NFL is a faster game and will his lack of elite speed make him only a good player as opposed to a quality one. I don’t think he has Pro Bowl type of ability tho… If Thompson drafts him, I won’t be surprised or disappointed! I’ll trust his judgement on Ayers! At the end of the 1st, its just harder to find playmakers.

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by Strohman on Apr 10, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

To be fair

Clay Matthews didn’t have that many sacks in college (5 in his career) and is an amazing pass rusher. College is not necessarily indicative of how a player will perform in the pros, either; half the teams that grabbed DEs in 2007 wish they could have had someone else instead.

Tampa Bay took Gaines Adams (R.I.P.), Atlanta took Jamaal Anderson, Denver took Jarvis Moss…and none of those players has worked out. Scarily enough, the best pass-rusher taken in the first round of ’07 is Anthony Spencer.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Apr 10, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point

Matthews is in another world compared to Ayers in explosiveness off the line tho. Matthews had a 1.49 10 split, whereas Ayers had a 1.66… Thats quite a difference! Its not to say Ayers won’t be a good pass rusher, but the lack of explosivenss will not help him! Alot goes into becoming a good pass rusher, but the most important aspect seems to be explosiveness.

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by Strohman on Apr 10, 2011 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

The problem is Ayers

Is he really is a questionable prospect in rushing the passer. If we get him, surely we’ll get someone that can cover, but we’ll still be complaining about not having a pass rusher at ROLB. If that’s what Ayers will bring, I think we already have it on our roster. No need in spending a 1st Round Pick on a guy that can cover well, but is a huge unknown as a pass rusher. I’m not impressed with his game film and what I read from scouts. If he’s all that is left on the board by the time we pick, I would much rather trade down. Of course a lot of you know how I feel about Ayers though.

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by Jabooty on Apr 13, 2011 5:22 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't disagree

As far as Ayers is concerned… He is a bit of a projection when it comes to pass rush. And that is usually the most important aspect of OLB play for 34 teams. I think he would be an upgrade over what we currently have in all areas, but I’m not sure if its enough of an upgrade. I’m not completely sold on him either… It comes down to how much you value pass rush, over other aspects of OLB play. I think as fans we over-value pass rush and under-value other aspects. Whereas teams and coaches may not value it quite as highly, even tho its still the most important trait. In the end I think Ayers is best suited for SamOLB in a 43 D and not quite as well for a 34 team… That said, I like his potential more than apparently you do. He certainly isn’t my first choice at 32 and a trade down in that situation might be the best route to go!

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by Strohman on Apr 13, 2011 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Our #32 Pick May Be More Valuable Than We Think...

I don’t have a crystal ball… But, I think this year TT might trade up just a few spots to grab a guy he has targeted… If he doesn’t and stands PAT… I could see teams fighting to get back into the bottom of the 1st round to grab their QB… Ponder, Mallet, etc… If that happens, well, we may end up trading back and getting more picks…

That isn’t what I’d like to see happen… We have a talented roster… We have 9 picks this year… Would rather see TT make a deal and move up and grab a difference maker this year!! I just don’t think Ayers is a Packer for some reason!

There is a great deal of talent in this years draft, and some very solid 2nd ~ 4th Round guys… But, the real DIFFERENCE MAKERS are in the 1st Round… Can’t wait to see what happens though…

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by BirdDogUni on Apr 13, 2011 9:04 AM CDT reply actions  

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