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What Randall Cobb Means To The Packers

National Football Post's Matt Bowen has two recent posts on the Green Bay Packers, and they're somewhat related. First he takes a look at what their 2nd round pick, WR Randall Cobb, could bring next season. While Bowen thinks the Packers could get creative, I don't expect we'll see anything different when Cobb is on the field. He also thinks they can attack the middle of the field with Cobb, just as the Packers do with other receivers. From Matt Bowen:

Inside the numbers: The first thing you do with a talent like Cobb. Get him matched up inside vs. a Nickel CB or even a FS that rolls down from the middle of the field working against Cover 1. 

While WR James Jones showed glimpses of what he could do in the middle of the field, Cobb could become a big weapon inside the numbers as the slot receiver.

In his second post, Bowen shows what a dangerous slot receiver can do, when WR Jordy Nelson runs past the entire Giants defense:

No different here as the CB looks in the backfield at the mesh-point on the inside run action and immediately loses leverage on Nelson. Bottom line, he is beat at the snap all because of his eye placement. Take care of your job first, and in this case, that means playing trail-man on Nelson.

This one is all on S Antrel Rolle. He's looking in the backfield on the play action, but if he had been a few yards deeper, he might have been able to make a play. The defensive back has to keep the receiver in front of him, or keep up with him in coverage. But on this play, Rolle allows Nelson behind him right away, before FS Deon Grant can react, which allows QB Aaron Rodgers to throw the pass in stride after Nelson is behind all the defensive backs.

Cobb can do the same thing as Nelson, if the scheme allows him to get open with some room to work. He won't bring anything new to the Packers. He'll bring the same dangerous runner in the open field as the Packers have already in Nelson and WR Greg Jennings. But he will give them more mismatches in multiple receiver sets, as Nelson had against Rolle.

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Cobb and 2 new tight ends

 Cobb was lined up in the backfield in college and made some nice catches for good gains, also with the drafting of two tight ends with H-back size i can see some new wrinkles being added to the Green Bay offense this year, all this does not bode well for the return of James Jones.

by tgifbipo on May 7, 2011 9:19 AM CDT reply actions  

jones

he’s moving to defense. he’s big, fast, and physical. which would be perfect for covering the randy moss types, and he has the hands of a cornerback

by fn_cold_ak on May 8, 2011 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

........

I wonder if this could work…. never seen this idea before.
But I think it will never happen because he will be offered a contract as a reciever somewhere else first.

by PhoenicianPakFan on May 8, 2011 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully this is a joke

An established WR who thinks he could be a # 1 or 2 will never move to CB.
Not too mention, I don’t want to see it either

"I'm tired of pretending I'm not a rock star from Mars."

by Kuhl on May 8, 2011 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

It may have been said in sarcastic tone......

but hell, it might just be crazy enough to work. You never see this in the NFL though because players have their set position and nobody wants to change it…..usually cause if one team doesn’t wnat it, another team is willing to pay for it.

He IS big and physical….but this would be a radical move….

by PhoenicianPakFan on May 8, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just takes too long in most cases, IMO

Skills in the NFL are often things players learn very early and develop over years of HS and college ball even before they get to the NFL. Just takes way too long in most cases for the NFL teams to be willing to put in the time commitment before seeing a payoff. ANd just about the time the payoff is coming the player is ready to hit the FA market. So another team could easily benefit from all the time and energy someone else puts into changing a players position.

I don’t think Jones is fast or quick enough to be a DB. He ran like a 4.6 or worse 40. And I’ve never seen him really out-quick anyone. He’s good enough to work himself open on offense partly due to his physical style, but on D alot of that would be negated by the hands off D that is enforced in the NFL.

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by Strohman on May 8, 2011 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Troy Brown, 2004.

Problem?

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on May 8, 2011 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Brown played both

He was primarily a WR who would occasionally play CB. Not sure about this, but I’d assume that Brown played some CB in college.

"I'm tired of pretending I'm not a rock star from Mars."

by Kuhl on May 9, 2011 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

by no means does Troy Brown define all WRs, though. He was converted to CB in 2004 because the Patriots simply HAD no one else to play that position.

And he was pretty solid at it, too.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on May 9, 2011 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Every Packer will end up loving Randall Cobb.

His excitment is infectious and his work ethic is phenomenal. He will not stop working until he is the number one option at receiver but will not offend the other guys to get there. He stays humble and hungry.

by Cameron1 on May 7, 2011 10:56 AM CDT reply actions  

 Sounds like he will be a good fit, unselfishness is a required trait in an offense with so many weapons.

by tgifbipo on May 7, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly. Well put.

But what amazed the UK football fans is his durability. He is not afraid to take and make hard hits across the middle.

He plays with a big chip on his shoulder because of his 2 star rating coming out of high school. He grew up 20 miles from the University of Tennessee and they didn’t even take a glance in his direction. And that never say die attitude is what has made him such a star.

by Cameron1 on May 7, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

You act like you know him personally.

Can I ask how you know him?

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by Strohman on May 7, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's awesome, man

A few more fathers could stand to take some notes.

Brewers, if you're really that desperate to disprove the saying "Defense wins championships" you're going to have to at least hit the ball occasionally.

by Tepo6688 on May 8, 2011 1:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Like I said...

We’ve all read the reports about the kid. But that doesn’t free you acting like you know him! He has alot of good qualities, and I’m sure he’ll be a good role model for your son! I just hope YOUR the real role model for him, not some athlete that he might never meat!

You've been Stroh'd™!!!

by Strohman on May 8, 2011 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Like I said!!!

We’ve all read all the glowing reports about Cobb! Sounds like a great kid, person and has alot of potential to be a really good player! I read what you said about Cobb and for the most part I totally agree, except that he’ll never become the #1 target in the Packers offense, cuz honestly Jennings and Finley are far beyond him in talent and playmaking ability. Beyond that, like I ALSO said I hope your your son’s role model… That means your actually being a father and I applaud you for that. No need to get pissy w/ me over anything I said! And if your going to go on a little nit picking tirade on us there alot worse than me inadvertently misspelling meet! Now go be a father to your son, and quit bitching at me!

You've been Stroh'd™!!!

by Strohman on May 8, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

For what I said earlier,

Which btw has little to do w/ you, I already apologized for not reading a single comment correctly. And its not like Jeigh couldn’t have easily ended it earlier by pointing out my mistake earlier. We all appreciate anyone commenting on the Packers. Who Cobb is as a person IS Important to me. ANd I’ve read as much as I can find on him. Not cheering for anyone other than the GB Packers, but calling a rookie WR a better playmaker than Welker is simply ABSURD! And my guess is you know that as well as I do… Let it go.

You've been Stroh'd™!!!

by Strohman on May 8, 2011 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Already have let it go.

But, as many have already said, lighten up and you will enjoy life a lot more.

by Cameron1 on May 8, 2011 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions   3 recs

Judging by your comment

To BigBill at 3:49 it would appear you haven’t. Otherwise you shouldn’t have felt the need to mention me!

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by Strohman on May 8, 2011 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

We should start a pool for the next one. Dibs on June 14th.

Brewers, if you're really that desperate to disprove the saying "Defense wins championships" you're going to have to at least hit the ball occasionally.

by Tepo6688 on May 8, 2011 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats WAY too long. I’ll take May 29th.

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by TrevorR on May 9, 2011 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just you watch

Brewers, if you're really that desperate to disprove the saying "Defense wins championships" you're going to have to at least hit the ball occasionally.

by Tepo6688 on May 9, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see what you did there.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

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by Omaha Sun on May 9, 2011 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was long before this exchange...

(thank you time-stamped posts) and you’ve both carried this on long enough.

Good insight on Cobb and hope he turns out the way you feel about him Cameron.

Stroh…. you’ve been a bit over the top in this thread with hitting people hard on getting excited over Cobb. I get what you are saying about him. He hasn’t proven himself yet, and certainly nowhere near the likes of Welker in the Pats offense, and so yes, we should understand that no games have been played yet and he is only potential at this point. But its the offseason and the draft is the biggest thing between Feb (thankfully) and August, so let these fans get a bit excited for a minute and dream of the best-case scenarios now, before reality comes crashing down on us all like it always does.

by PhoenicianPakFan on May 8, 2011 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I kinda feel the over the top was started by others.

Whether for Cobb or other things. Read the comments, my response and theirs to me and tell me where it started. I would like to know what you see that I don’t.

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by Strohman on May 8, 2011 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess cuz I tend to stay rational

While being surrounded by fanatics! I don’t over glorify players or call them the worst OL in the NFL… I keep my expectations and observations about player in context, w/o all the hyperbole being thrown around by most of you!

BTW – I do NOT intentionally start arguments. But your saying that could be viewed as a reason for me to argue w/ you about it! So before casting a stone, maybe you should check yourself first!

If it pains you to read my comments.. DON’T! I could care less…

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by Strohman on May 9, 2011 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

We're done.

See post at bottom of the thread. Consider this closed.

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by texwestern on May 9, 2011 6:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

good points BUT

I actually don’t think he intentionally does it, its just who he is. Doesn’t excuse it but I don’t think of Stroh as being a troll trying to get people riled up. He is who he is…

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by TrevorR on May 9, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

None of us come here for that (fighting with Stroh) yet it seems to happen over and over…

The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010

by TrevorR on May 9, 2011 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

No. Bad Trevor.

Please don’t instigate, man.

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by texwestern on May 9, 2011 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

sigh…not trying to instigate, just find it frustrating that he doesn’t see that almost every argument on here involves him and someone else. I’ll leave it at that though.

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by TrevorR on May 9, 2011 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I work with a guy like that

Takes the counterpoint to ANYTHING you are saying. Needless to say, he has very few friends and his wife left him. Still thinks that everyone is trying to get HIM riled up. The best cure is apathy. With that, I’m done with the Stroh baiting / bashing / whatevering on this thread

He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…

by jarlbartar on May 9, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I do see it... And its frustrating to me too.

I also see that I’m being used as a scapegoat. If a disagreement occurs its alway my fault? I also use things like IMO, I think, I believe far more than anyone else here, but it always seems to be that I don’t allow others to have an opinion, when all I’m doing is stating my opinion. Yet seems like others don’t allow me that right.

You've been Stroh'd™!!!

by Strohman on May 9, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

a wise man once said

if a guy calls you a horse once, you punch him in the nose.

if another guys calls you a horse, you call him a jerk.

if another guy calls you a horse, well, maybe you should get yourself a saddle.

by sheehan on May 9, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Maybe you should consider being part of the solution.

Rather than part of the problem!!! Since you showed up all you’ve done is attack me, and you had nothing to do w/ the discussions! So instead of being part of the problem you could keep your pie hole closed and not give me a really bad impression of you. That might prevent a future argument! So why dont you use that saddle and mount yourself and ride off into the sunset!

You've been Stroh'd™!!!

by Strohman on May 9, 2011 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

not instigating...

Trevor is calling out the truth. i’ve only been on this blog for a year or so and I routinely find Stroh to be the guy in the middle of ridiculous arguments with fellow Packers fans! Period. It gets old…very old.

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by Jeigh AK on May 9, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Cobb

I like the kid, but he’s not going to suddenly make the Packers passing game the greatest ever. I don’t expect anything out of him this season except as a return man! He’ll have a limited role as a WR. In a couple years he’ll be used like a Welker… Alot of short underneath routes that give him run after the catch opportunities. We have too many other receiver options for him to be nearly as productive as Welker! Expect 60 rec and about a 12 ypc average, at his best! Some of you seem to think he’s going to become the focal point of the offense! We’ve all ready the reports about him, you don’t need to gush over him like a schoolgirl…

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by Strohman on May 7, 2011 12:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Says the fool to toss name at others!

Very mature aren’t you?! Bet mommy and daddy are very proud of you… Living in their basement at age 45!

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by Strohman on May 9, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Knock. It. Off. Guys.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on May 9, 2011 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

your keyboard having asthma problems?

(sorry, I’ve been waiting to use that one)

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by blackoutsox on May 9, 2011 1:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Says the fool to toss names at others!

Very mature aren’t you?! Bet mommy and daddy are very proud of you… Living in their basement at age 45!

You've been Stroh'd™!!!

by Strohman on May 9, 2011 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's like Goldy, but less expensive.

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by Comedic.Sans on May 9, 2011 4:15 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Oh, now that is hillarious

Packers over the Bears, Illini over the Badgers...

by SpaceGhost34 on May 9, 2011 8:22 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Joke Choke

on the post

Rec for the picture

Brewers, if you're really that desperate to disprove the saying "Defense wins championships" you're going to have to at least hit the ball occasionally.

by Tepo6688 on May 9, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

poor comparison w/welker

he is a more dynamic play-maker than welker. This kid has some wheels! I am not saying he is gonna be a HUGE FORCE for us this year, but i think we can expect some production + some signs of flash from the rookie. great addition to our offense.

by Jeigh AK on May 7, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

LOL Your freakin kidding me right?!!

He’ll have a great career if he’s 1/2 as good as Welker! What a crock of shit! Better playmaker than Welker my ASS! Now I know you people are off your rocker. Welker is a great player in this league and to try to tell me that Cobb is a better playmaker than Welker is just absolutely Stupid! He’ll be lucky to be 1/2 as good as Welker. And if he’s even as good he’ll be a Pro Bowler many times! Get REAL people!!

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by Strohman on May 7, 2011 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

How is he different?

Same size, speed quicks… Both small slot recievers who are great return men. Even tho Welker doesn’t do returns anymore cuz he’s too important to NE offense! For Gods sake, I don’t think there could be a better comparison! Just cuz Cobb played QB a little in college to doesn’t make them at all different! Welker is outstanding working the underneath stuff, and that exectly the role than Cobb is gonna have for the Packers!

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by Strohman on May 8, 2011 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cobb is slightly faster than Welker, but Welker is quicker… Comparison works! How you actually believe that Cobb is gonna be a better playmaker than Welker is absolutely beyond me. You coming out w/ the kid is gonna be and I quote “a HUGE FORCE” for us this year is down right dellusional! You need to get a grip on reality man! Welker is a big time playmaker! Just cuz he isn’t stretching the field deep doesn’t make him less of a playmaker. I don’t see Cobb w/ about 4.5 speed stretching the field a whole lot either. Putting Cobb, a ROOKIE, ahead of Welker as playmaker, IS a crock of shit! I’ll go easy when you get a grip on reality! Until then don’t try to feed me a bunch of Crap about Cobb being a better playmaker than Welker! And don’t try to tell me that an inexperienced college WR is gonna be a HUGE FORCE for the Packer this year either!

Look, I like the kid and he has potential, but inexperienced rookie WR dont’ become a huge force for Pro teams! Jennings had a really good rookie year, but he wasn’t a HUGE FORCE. ANd he started 4 years in college! Cobb started ONE year as a WR!

I get everyone likes to get excited about a rookie draft pick, but trying to tell anyone that an inexperienced college WR, as a ROOKIE, is gonna be a bigger playmaker than an All Pro WR is DELLUSIONAL! Don’t try to sell that load of crap, it just doesn’t work!

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by Strohman on May 8, 2011 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sorry

But I scan read comments. So I apologize for missing that. Still think expecting anything other than returns this season is not realistic. As NorthStarr says farther down.. “WRs almost never produce much in their first couple of years.” And he’s right! WR generally take a couple years to make an impact. Especially WR who enter the NFL inexperienced at the position. Look at Jordy Nelson… Same situation… Some of you need to temper your enthusiasm for rookies… It borders on dellusional!

You've been Stroh'd™!!!

by Strohman on May 8, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

cuz your perfect right?

At least I admitted my mistake and apologized! What else do you want?

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by Strohman on May 9, 2011 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

He just wants you to read a post if you are going to respond to it.

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by Omaha Sun on May 9, 2011 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions   3 recs

I took blame...

But its not like Jeigh couldn’t have pointed my mistake out earlier and we all could have avoided it. Seems like he should have realized I misread him sooner, since it was so obvious. Still my mistake, but just sayin…

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by Strohman on May 9, 2011 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

And we're just saying that's fine, and suggesting a way to avoid a similar misunderstanding in the future.

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by Omaha Sun on May 9, 2011 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions   4 recs

He corrected you within one or two posts

Depending on where you want to start counting from.

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by GoGregGo on May 9, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   3 recs

More Harvin

Or Randle El than Welker.

Welker isn’t physically gifted, he can’t play QB, he can’t play RB.

But noone in the league is as good at finding soft spot in zones than Welker, Welker runs perfect routes and has incredible hands.

The reason Welker is targeted a lot is because he’s always open and doesn’t drop balls. He’s Brady’s security blanket.

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by PackersRS on May 7, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

And you Honestly think that at 5'10 190 Cobb can play QB or RB?!!!

Get FREAKIN real! I think the Randle Ell comparison works very well…

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by Strohman on May 7, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Played RB at Texas Tech.

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by NinjaZX6R on May 9, 2011 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

and in HS.

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by NinjaZX6R on May 9, 2011 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hope no player becomes the focal point of this offense

Not again, no thank you, so the more exciting weapons that “could” become focal points just means more potential targets to keep in mind so no single one does

by pharom on May 7, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm going to reserve judgment on Cobb for at least a couple of seasons.

Yes, he produced against SEC competition on a regular basis, but not all SEC WRs pan out. Not all players from a single conference pan out, either.

Should Cobb prove able to be the #2 or #3 receiver in Green Bay’s offense in a couple seasons, that’s when you should give him credit. As of this moment, he is a rookie receiver who has never played a down in a Green Bay jersey.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on May 7, 2011 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Leave it to OBS to keep it rational.

I like the kid too. And think he might become a good #3 WR and return man. ANd if he does I’ll be exstatic! Anything beyond that and I might become dellusional too. But he’s done nothing in the NFL, and I think its 2 years before he’s much more than a return man.

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by Strohman on May 8, 2011 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like the selection as well.

It remains to be seen whether Cobb pans out…TT does have a great track record with 2nd round receivers, though.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on May 8, 2011 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

He does at that doesn't he?

Jennings, Nelson, Murphy… HOpefully Cobb becomes something remotely close to them. And I actually think he could.

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by Strohman on May 8, 2011 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm with ya on this, as well.

WRs almost never produce much in their first couple of years; it’s why I’d just about always rather not see the Packers take one in the first round, where you are usually looking for near-immediate impact players.
Good WRs usually blossom in their third or fourth year, and the exceptions are damned few and far between.

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and they ask me to pick up a piece of paper.
You call that job satisfaction?
'Cause, I don't."

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by NorthStarr on May 8, 2011 3:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you!

At least some fans are keepin it real!

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by Strohman on May 8, 2011 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's the offseason, we just won the Super Bowl, and are excited about our draft

No reason to get upset and insult other people for liking someone and thinking that they will be good players. Most WRs don’t have huge rookie years, but some do. . . . Randy Moss, Anquan Boldin, Percy Harvin, Eddie Royal, Marques Colston, Santonio Holmes, Lee Evans, DeSean Jackson, Andre Johnson, heck even Michael Clayton had a great rookie year before disappearing. And for a team that likes to spread it out, a big season doesn’t have to be 100 catches and 1,200 yards.

It’s spring, and hope springs eternal (offer void for Chicago Cubs fans).

53 Bears, 1 Cup

by I voted for Kodos on May 8, 2011 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions   4 recs

And for every one you mention...

I could list at least twice that many that were complete busts! Nothing wrong w/ thinking they’ll be good, but when people start talking about a rookie being a better playmaker than a multiple time Pro Bowler, it is way, just WAY beyond anything resembling Rational! I get that its an offseason following a SB win but REALLY thats being dellusional. And when fans get such high expectations, all that can happen is that your gonna be let down and then bitching about how bad they are and how they have totally underachieved! And that doesn’t help anyone either! How about being excited, I am, but reserving a little irrational expectations till they have actually played in a game! I guess thats something you learn as you get a bit older than HS or college!

You've been Stroh'd™!!!

by Strohman on May 9, 2011 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

...

Degrees from Wisconsin and Minnesota? How does that work out?

And, if you don’t mind my asking, what are they for?

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on May 9, 2011 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Graduated from UW, had a serious head injury, wanted to make sure my brain still worked

So I went to UM for another degree. Preferred UW but did have some professors at UM that were excellent and very accessible.

Got an English lit degree from UW, though I took a fair amount of business/econ as well, and a history degree from UM. The econ classes were by far the most relevant to what I currently do, however.

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by I voted for Kodos on May 9, 2011 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where were you in 2005?

I could have used you. This comment is highly rec-worthy.

I guess my choice kind of loaded the dice to assure me but in retrospect my choice reflects a brain that had not fully recovered.

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"I'd rather be loved," said Root.
Mulciber shrugged. "You're young."

by I voted for Kodos on May 10, 2011 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't imply anything about you...

I stated my perspective at my age. I don’t know how old you are nor do I care! Don’t take things soo personal… Maybe you should relax a little!

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by Strohman on May 9, 2011 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

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I think it’s a requirement at a certain Vikings site that shall go unmentioned.

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by Jon Banks on May 9, 2011 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

seriously though, what is your obsession with exclamation marks?

this may come as a shock, but typing with exclamation marks actually doesn’t make you any louder… or smarter… if anything it makes you seem like an attention seeking child… just saying

by sheehan on May 9, 2011 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions   4 recs

If you've been here long

And I seem to remember you from a year or so ago… Maybe you should realize thats my style. Maybe you should get over it?! Everyone else has a long time ago! Its a really tired discussion that is overblown and something that I have cut down on alot. Get over it…

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by Strohman on May 9, 2011 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hypocrite (n.)

(1) A person who engages in the same behaviors he condemns others for.

(2) A person who holds other people to higher standards than he holds himself.

by sheehan on May 9, 2011 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions   4 recs

Randall should have gone to Nebraska.

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by Omaha Sun on May 9, 2011 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

But they're no good ;)

Obviously UW-Mad would have been a better fit.

Brewers, if you're really that desperate to disprove the saying "Defense wins championships" you're going to have to at least hit the ball occasionally.

by Tepo6688 on May 9, 2011 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are you kidding me?

Hello! A guy named Cobb playing for the Cornhuskers? He was born to play for Nebraska. I’m just going to go ahead and say it’s Bill Calahn’s fault that it never happened.

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by Omaha Sun on May 9, 2011 2:14 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

A guy named Cobb playing for the Cornhuskers?

Does that mean they’d make him strip for the team’s amusement?

Brewers, if you're really that desperate to disprove the saying "Defense wins championships" you're going to have to at least hit the ball occasionally.

by Tepo6688 on May 9, 2011 3:54 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Says the person who went that direction first!

And I never said I was more righteous… If someone wants a fight/argument I won’t back down! call me flawed in that regard!

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by Strohman on May 9, 2011 1:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did you happen to read Brandon's comment?

Just let it go. You don’t have to get the last word in.

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by Omaha Sun on May 9, 2011 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions   4 recs

What are people supposed to do Stroh? We are sitting in the middle of a lockout. They drafted a young exciting playmaker, what do you expect people to do. How in the heck do you know what he’s going to be? How do you know he isn’t going to show up and blow up the scene. People tried to shut people up when the Packers drafted Matthews too, yet he was a HUGE playmaker. Its not rare for a receiver to show up and be a major factor. How about you let people talk about the guy how they want…if you don’t like the comments don’t read them, I don’t’ think they’ll care (someone named Stroh threw that one out a few comments above).

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by TrevorR on May 9, 2011 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

The benefit of Cobb

One of the talking heads recently said something that has stuck in my head about drafting Cobb: “You can’t argue with production.” Really when looking at a WR from a team like UK it’s pretty telling when he’s the main part of the offense and is still able to produce. That’s what has me excited. It tells me that he has the ability to get open and he has the ability to make plays even when the defense knows the ball is going to be going to him and he’s the one the team is relying on. That’s something we can build on and that’s something that can continue to make our WR corp something special.

by PackApologist on May 7, 2011 1:46 PM CDT reply actions  

If there's something I want out of the excitment from Cobb

Is creating a feeling of trying different packages and spreading it out. I’m like many fans and eagerly awaiting seeing Finley back on the field, but targetting Finley too much didn’t end up all that successful for the first few weeks of the season, now even if Cobb is in a Nelson like role, the idea of an even spread between Jennings/Finley with Nelson/Driver/Cobb tossed into the mix.

Jennings and Nelson proved themselves worthy of attention even with Finley back, Driver still has gas in the tank, and Cobb being around to keep the spread honest is fine with me

by pharom on May 7, 2011 5:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Ok, another one of these posts...

I lost the link to the article… but it said Finley was the 3rd targeted receiver on the team at the time of his injury. Jennings and one other WR were ahead of him, and the two other WRs were close behind.

What this all means is, with Finley on the field, there was equal distrubution. I don’t know where people are getting the thought that Finley was the only person getting thrown to. Maybe it’s because he is a TE and WRs usually get the ball thrown their way more often?

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by Chief Oshkosh on May 7, 2011 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

And becuz he made more happen w/ his targets than did Jennings and Driver.

They were all targeted equally early last season. Just that JMike had more catches and seemed to make more happen w/ his targets! Last I checked thats his job. To do the most he can w/ the number of catches he gets!

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by Strohman on May 7, 2011 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

How many more formations can the Packers really run?

Our O actually was pretty diverse if you think about it. The Packers were running two and three TE sets and even two FB sets at times. Then the next play we would suddenly switch to 5 wide. Hell, the Packers were even running an effective wishbone package last year.

Really the only package that we didn’t run last year was Wildcat, and I just don’t see that working here since we have a kick ass franchise QB.

by PackApologist on May 7, 2011 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see GB suddenly becoming trick play city

but Cobb certainly brings some opts. if they choose. Like I said in an earlier post, if he becomes the holder, it opens an otherwise straight forward kick up for a number of possibilities.

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by bigbill992001 on May 8, 2011 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tread lightly yourself!!

He’s not the one getting bitchy w/ me…

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by Strohman on May 8, 2011 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just so we can really get this thread going

The Patriots are the BEST* team in football

Now someone go link this to Pats Pulpit

Brewers, if you're really that desperate to disprove the saying "Defense wins championships" you're going to have to at least hit the ball occasionally.

by Tepo6688 on May 8, 2011 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

IT'S A TRAP!

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on May 9, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just try to tell me

that isn’t exactly what this thread needs. G’head, do it.

Brewers, if you're really that desperate to disprove the saying "Defense wins championships" you're going to have to at least hit the ball occasionally.

by Tepo6688 on May 9, 2011 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL, Cam

from one BBN member to another.

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by bigbill992001 on May 9, 2011 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t think we’ll see wildcat, BUT we could do some more end around plays and things like that.

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by TrevorR on May 9, 2011 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

If we start running the wildcat...

I will punch my self in the face for expecting better of
MM

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by SpaceGhost34 on May 9, 2011 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

MY EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!

and btw Im jacked for Cobb as a replacement for stone hands Jones and to protect Williams from punt returns.

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by blackoutsox on May 9, 2011 2:00 AM CDT reply actions  

Word up.

Y’all sound like a bunch of classless hooligans. If you are, I have a link for you.

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by Mitchell Maurer on May 9, 2011 7:18 AM CDT up reply actions   3 recs

Horrible

another one of your crimes against humanity

He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…

by jarlbartar on May 9, 2011 7:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Too mean

Brewers, if you're really that desperate to disprove the saying "Defense wins championships" you're going to have to at least hit the ball occasionally.

by Tepo6688 on May 9, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bahahahahahahahaha

This thread has been outstanding to read….you guys really took the gloves off..too bad I didnt get too much insight on Cobb lmao

Packers over the Bears, Illini over the Badgers...

by SpaceGhost34 on May 9, 2011 8:19 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Not even close. Follow this link.

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by Omaha Sun on May 9, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

You are the one that has posts stick out in that thread, since yours are the only non-green ones. :-P

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by GoGregGo on May 9, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I joined the party late and not enough people came back to green me.

We need 8 recs to go green on BSotS.

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by Omaha Sun on May 9, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

8?

What the hell? Thats a lot, usually its only 2.

by Yankees10 on May 9, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

We have high standards.

It was 5 when I first joined. I was surprised it was so low for a site of APC’s caliber. I guess Brandon just thinks the green goes well with the color scheme.

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by Omaha Sun on May 9, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

APC is one of the few sites I've seen that have the rec threshold set all the way down to 2.

It is not the norm.

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by peytonsurdaddy on May 9, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

Seems like a bit of a stretch, but I’ll allow it since you are all obviously “dellusional.” ;)

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by peytonsurdaddy on May 9, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yooooooooooou

sonofabitch

Brewers, if you're really that desperate to disprove the saying "Defense wins championships" you're going to have to at least hit the ball occasionally.

by Tepo6688 on May 9, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

BOOM!

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by peytonsurdaddy on May 9, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lmfao

Thats awesome

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by SpaceGhost34 on May 10, 2011 5:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I saw that she had the "crazy eyes"...

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on May 11, 2011 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

BANNED!

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on May 9, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

on st. pattys day SSS

recs every comment. it can go crazy

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by blackoutsox on May 9, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you, thank you for the recs!!

I’ll be here all week with shows at 7 and 10pm. And don’t forget to tip your waitress.

Sorry I couldn’t resist. hahaha

by Cameron1 on May 9, 2011 11:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Talk about a trainrec

Brewers, if you're really that desperate to disprove the saying "Defense wins championships" you're going to have to at least hit the ball occasionally.

by Tepo6688 on May 9, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate to stray from the topic at hand, but I have some thoughts on Randall Cobb . . .

Cobb brings another matchup difficulty that opposing defensive coordinators will have to spend time on. With all the matchup problems we have, teams won’t have as much time to spend on other aspects of defense. We’ll have more teams on the ropes than ever, and the offense will improve as a result (even if Cobb doesn’t put up big numbers). Just run one Wildcat play with Cobb in week 2 and opposing teams just lost one hour of prep time getting ready for Finley split wide.

And he can help our defense prepare for Percy Harvin, too, so he helps that part of the team as well.

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by I voted for Kodos on May 9, 2011 2:54 PM CDT reply actions   3 recs

I hate to stray from the topic at hand, but I have some thoughts on Randall Cobb . . .

Win.

I wouldn’t mind them putting him and Rodgers in the backfield at the same time, and having them run, like, a quadruple flea-flicker.

Brewers, if you're really that desperate to disprove the saying "Defense wins championships" you're going to have to at least hit the ball occasionally.

by Tepo6688 on May 9, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like what Cobb brings to the table

A very versatile athlete who could potentially develop into a Welker / Harvin type player, given time and the right circumstances. I dont think the Packers will get too cute with the Wildcat and run all kinds of trick formations, maybe a trick play or an odd formation every other game is about as much as I expect from MM. The Wildcat scares me to have the QB lining up in the slot at times and running routes. I know they arent made of glass, but I dont like the face of the franchise running routes and risk getting laid out by a cheap shot.

He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…

by jarlbartar on May 9, 2011 3:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Another aspect of his game is his place holding capabilities.

Excellent option if you need a two point conversion. He has even said (while laughing) that he wanted to take Tim Masthay’s job.

by Cameron1 on May 9, 2011 4:23 PM CDT reply actions  

my 2 cents

Cobb is gonna kill it.. starting this year, not in 2-3 but right away. I like him as much and more than i liked Starks/Shields last year. Book it Danno. And P.S. I can be high on him just like some people were high on Starks last year and pounded their chests when he had a good game.. yeah, don’t be hypocritical. Let us feel some love for these kids until they prove us otherwise. Second note: Ricky will be starting in 2 years!

by MikeyG76 on May 10, 2011 11:39 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

rec

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