NFL Network's "Top 100 Players of 2011"

He made the Pro Bowl at nose tackle. But their run defense was so awful it’s hard to make the case that he’s good enough.

I’m not sure Dumervil counts because he sat out 2010. But Champ’s still good enough to make it.

Washington’s best player is London Fletcher, but he always seems to sneak under the radar, so it’s possible he doesn’t make it. I think Orakpo is their next best guy. If they don’t make it and DeAngelo Hall does I’d be surprised. Hall made the Pro Bowl based on one game of Jay Cutler throwing the ball to him on multiple occasions, but overall he’s not that good, you just hear a lot about him because he’s always running his mouth.

Saint Louis: Steven Jackson has to make that list. He’s just so good. At first I thought Bradford, too, but I don’t think he would be ahead of Josh Freeman yet, though he doesn’t have as good a group of pass-catchers as Freeman.

And Seattle: Earl Thomas supposedly had a very good rookie season, but there’s just no way he beats out Eric Berry. But if Berry beat out Collins I guess anything is possible. Marshawn Lynch had one good run against a bunch of guys that were either afraid to try to tackle and/or were only going for the ball, so I don’t think he makes the cut. I think two years ago Lofa Tatupu makes it, but he’s really had a hard couple of years.

but top 100 players good? I disagree, but I’m biased against Owens. Since the list was compiled by other players you would think he wouldn’t make the top 1000 based on how much he probably annoys them.

As for McNabb: I’m kind of biased towards him but am also surprised he made the list. Apparently the players don’t think much of Shanahan’s job last year (neither do I).

And realize, when I’m asking to be rec’d, I’m only doing it for you fine people.

But…but…Hasselbeck?

Thomas is an elite LT. Hillis is a fan-favorite but I don’t think he’s that highly regarded among the players (at least not yet, but if he plays well for an entire season we’ll see). But there are a ton of NFL running backs who are much better than he is.

D’Brickashaw Ferguson and maybe Matt Light (Pats offense was very good this year). Jason Peters from Philadelphia might make it, but he’s way too inconsistent, IMO. Also, Tyson Clabo is another overrated tackle.

Yeah thats why I said Matthews is “or at least best OLB in the NFL.” To kinda differentiate them a little. I thought of Ware shortly too. He might be as good as Matthews, close anyway. Wilson has always struggled w/ coverage, even zone. When the Cards D is working best he doesn’t have to play in coverage and is attacking at the LOS. Couple years ago he was OK in coverage, but now he’s pretty bad and the D isn’t working well enough to allow him to play to his strengths.

Although I can’t really think of anyone the players would respect more than these guys.

He put up some gaudy numbers, but has been hurt too much and hasn’t done it long enough to be any higher on the list.

Left Manning off the list on purpose.

I don’t think Flacco should have made it. I don’t think Romo makes it, but if he does I’m guessing he replaces Matt Ryan on that list. His outing in the NFC Championship game might have cost him dearly, as it was the highest-profile game of his career.

There’s no way Romo makes this list. He was not playing well before getting injured.

As if that were even up for discussion.

Sanchez would be amongst the worst QBs in the NFL.

Are you ready to say Freeman is better than Flacco after 1 year and 2 points of passer rating? Freeman has only 1 great season. IIRC, Derek Anderson had 1 of those. That could very well be a 1 year wonder for Freeman.

About having 7 players, I have no problem with “only” 7 players, personally I wouldn’t put Clifton in there, but Tramon Williams not being in there is a travesty, nothing short of it. TO being in there, McNabb being in there, is an abomination. This isn’t a career list, is a 2011 list.

Again, if there’s no information of how they came up with that list, for all I care it’s random.

And I do agree he has incredible versatility, but Fitz and Andre are definitely ahead of him. They are the best WR in the league. After that, you have Megatron, Wayne, White, etc. Those guys are all great, and I think Jennings can be put in there at any spot. He is at that 2nd tier IMO.

Lets not go overboard tho… He clearly isn’t in the top 5 WR in the NFL. Top 10 probably. Wayne, Johnson , Johnson, Welker and a few others are definitely above him are clearly better. You telling me that Andre Johnson can’t livne up anywhere and NOT get open? Give me a break…

are the only thing preventing him from being up there with Ed Reed. They’re also both great returners – I think you could argue that Collins has better field vision than Brandon Jackson.

I agree that Collins is Top 5 of safeties. Thats also why he’s not higher in the list. Safeties are going to be one of the least selected positions on this list. Skill positions have the most picks, then going to defense you are going to have pass rushers and great corners probably….and then theres room for a few safeties. The fact that Collins made the list at all, I think makes him Top 5 in the league, cause thats all the safeties that will probably be on that list.

Thats cuz Collins isn’t a big sturdy safety, nor is he a Strong Safety. Collins is a backend playmaking ballhawk. You don’t use him in the box like you would a Polamalu. That doesn’t suit his skills. Not sure what Balt calls Reed, but he is one of those safties that is a tweener IMO. He can play SS or FS. Collins is a pure FS and should not be used at the LOS. So thats (tackles or TFL) a poor reflection of his talent. Who has more INT’s the past 3 or 4 years among safties? Thats a much more important stat than a couple missed tackles! Reed and Polamalu are clearly the top 2 in the NFL, tho Reed might showing some wear and starting to slide…

He’s the guy that prevents deep passes from happening. And he’s very good at that. I read that article, too, and it seemed like a “stop” was a little subjective, too. Collins does take bad angles sometimes, but mostly he’s pretty solid.

Has to be #1!

This list is about as accurate as your average Pro Bowl ballot.

It’s fun for discussion, but hardly definitive.

Don’t get me wrong, I like Wes a lot, I just don’t think he was better than Jennings this year.

Both have a ton of talent, but J-Mike has been injured too much to crack the top 100 and Shields is a very raw Nickel back. I don’t care who it is, there shouldn’t be a nickel back in the top 100. Also, I don’t think Orakpo should be ahead of Dumervil or Mathis. IMO both are better pass rushers.

We had the most players on the list of any team, and we have at least 2 more guys that have a legitimate argument to be on there (Tramon, Sitton if Gs weren’t so under-appreciated).

We are all extremely fortunate to be Packer fans right now.