NFL Network's "Top 100 Players of 2011" Thread #4
by Omaha Sun on Jun 28, 2011 11:44 PM CDT
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For those of you who are priveleged enough to have NFL Network, I'm sure you are aware of the series they have running called the "Top 100." They previously ranked the top 100 players of all time, and now they are ranking the top 100 active players for the 2010-2011 season. This list is actually voted on by current NFL players, not analysts and writers like many other ranking shows. I thought I'd create this FanPost as an open thread for debate and discussion about the list. Read the list, and offer your opinions. Who is on here that shouldn't be? Who is too low?
Miscellaneous List Facts:
- 10 Miami Hurricanes on the list, the most of any school
- 7 Packers on the list, the most of any team
- 59 offensive players and 41 defensive players on the list
- 12 QBs on the list
- 2 teams with 0 players on the list
- 5 TEs and 5 OTs on the list
And now the list...
* Bold = Packers
* Italics = Rookies
Episode 1: 91-100
100) Donovan McNabb, QB, WAS
99) Chad Clifton, LT, GB
98) Darren McFadden, RB, OAK
97) Shaun Phillips, OLB, SD
96) Nick Collins, FS, GB
95) Jon Beason, MLB, CAR
94) Frank Gore, RB, SF
93) Eric Berry, SS, KC
92) Lance Briggs, OLB, CHI
91) Terrell Owens, WR, CIN
Episode 2: 81-90
90) Joe Flacco, QB, BAL
89) Adrian Wilson, SS, ARI
88) Vernon Davis, TE, SF
87) Jordan Gross, LT, CAR
86) Josh Freeman, QB, TB
85) Jason Babin, DE, TEN
84) Joshua Cribbs, Weapon, CLE
83) Mike Williams, WR, TB
82) LaMarr Woodley, OLB, PIT
81) B.J. Raji, NT, GB
Episode 3: 71-80
80) Jared Allen, DE, MIN
79) D'Brickashaw Ferguson, LT, NYJ
78) Dallas Clark, TE, IND
77) Chris Snee, G, NYG
76) Santonio Holmes, WR, NYJ
75) Jay Ratliff, NT, DAL
74) Greg Jennings, WR, GB
73) Trent Cole, DE, PHI
72) Tony Romo, QB, DAL
71) Mario Williams, DE, HOU
Episode 4: 61-70
70) Miles Austin, WR, DAL
69) John Abraham, DE, ATL
68) Antrel Rolle, FS, NYG
67) Brian Waters, LG, KC
66) Richard Seymour, DE, OAK
65) Vonta Leach, FB, HOU
64) Tamba Hali, OLB, KC
63) Cameron Wake, OLB, MIA
62) Jerod Mayo, ILB, NE
61) Brandon Marshall, WR, DEN
Episode 5: 51-60
60) Justin Tuck, DE, NYG
59) Jeff Saturday, OC, IND
58) Brandon Lloyd, WR, DEN
57) Andre Gurode, OC, DAL
56) Ray Rice, RB, BAL
55) Carl Nicks, OG, NO
54) Asante Samuel, CB, PHI
53) Marques Colston, WR, NO
52) Matt Ryan, QB, ATL
51) Ndamukong Suh, DT, DET
Episode 6: 41-50
50) Wes Welker, WR, NE
49) Brian Urlacher, LB, CHI
48) Champ Bailey, CB, DEN
47) Nick Mangold, OC, NYJ
46) Tony Gonzalez, TE, ATL
45) Dwayne Bowe, WR, KC
44) Robert Mathis, DE, IND
43) Joe Thomas, LT, CLE
42) Michael Turner, RB, ATL
41) Ben Roethlisberger, QB, PIT
Episode 7: 31-40
40) Terrell Suggs, OLB, BAL
39) Logan Mankins, OG, NE
38) Steven Jackson, RB, STL
37) Jonathan Vilma, MLB, NO
36) Jason Witten, TE, DAL
35) Vince Wilfork, NT, NE
34) Jahri Evans, RG, NO
33) Jamaal Charles, RB, KC
32) Devin Hester, KR, CHI
31) Reggie Wayne, WR, IND
Episode 8: 21-30
30) Maurice Jones-Drew, RB, JAX
29) Desean Jackson, WR, PHI
28) Jake Long, LT, MIA
27) Calvin Johnson, WR, DET
26) Phillip Rivers, QB, SD
25) Arian Foster, RB, HOU
24) Roddy White, WR, ATL
23) Patrick Willis, ILB, SF
22) Antonio Gates, TE, SD
21) James Harrison, OLB, PIT
Episode 9: 11-20
20) Micheal Vick, QB, PHI
19) Clay Matthews III, OLB, GB
18) Nnamdi Asomugha, CB, OAK
17) Haloti Ngata, NT, BAL
16) Charles Woodson, CB, GB
15) Dwight Freeney, DE, IND
14) Larry Fitzgerald, WR, ARI
13) Chris Johnson, RB, TEN
12) DeMarcus Ware, OLB, DAL
11) Aaron Rodgers, QB, GB
Episode 10: 1-10
10) Julius Peppers, DE, CHI
9) Drew Brees, QB, NO
8) Darrelle Revis, CB, NYJ
7) Andre Johnson, WR, HOU
6) Troy Polamalu, SS, PIT
5) Ed Reed, FS, BAL
4) Ray Lewis, ILB, BAL
3) Adrian Peterson, RB, MIN
2) Peyton Manning, QB, IND
1) Tom Brady, QB, NE
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Here’s a link that talks about how the voting for this whole thing was actually conducted.
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The appearance of this
Due to the Comments closing on the last thread, I have copy/pasted the list and posted it here. It is updated through…
on each of these posts is what led me to believe that you were doing each of them whenever the comments on the previous post closed, and why I replied as such to the question on that other thread, Omaha.
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
"Here I am, brain the size of a planet,
and they ask me to pick up a piece of paper.
You call that job satisfaction?
'Cause, I don't."
I put up a new thread sometine after the old one closes. But if I remember I update the list every week.
So if I remember this weekend, I will put the top 10 here instead of starting a new thread.
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Numbers 11-20
Filled with some high-quality players. It makes it hard to argue with those rankings. I think Vick might be a little high, but he’s such a dynamic player that it’d be just as easy to argue that he’s too low.
"I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous."
— Hunter S. Thompson
by I voted for Kodos on Jun 29, 2011 10:18 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah, he's a tough one.
For much of the season he completely dominated. For other parts… not as much. His raw talent alone gets him into the top 20, but his limitations keep him from the truly elite.
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Where do y'all suppose
Revis will end up?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Ridiculously high.
Or #1. It really wouldn’t surprise me to see Ty Law 2.0 really high on the list.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jun 30, 2011 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
How well did he really play last year?
Sure, he was ridiculous 2 years ago. But with the hod out and the injuries last year, I don’t remember him having such a spectacular season.
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Neither do I.
This list is pretty heavily influenced by hype. Revis had an amazing 2009, but his 2010 season was fairly unspectacular. If NFL officials ever got their heads on straight, they might call him for mugging the receiver before the catch. Instead, he gets away with DPI and Illegal Contact (the calls that make your head spin when Tramon Williams gets called for them).
Revis is like the LeBron James of CBs. He’s an amazing talent, but the crap he gets away with is sickening.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jun 30, 2011 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
"He’s an amazing talent, but the crap he gets away with is sickening"
and yet, you still watch the NBA.
13.
Because LeBron only plays for 1 team.
Kobe plays for another, and after that? 28 teams free of douches. Miami absorbed them like a sponge.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 1, 2011 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Tony Parker? Paul Pierce? Kevin Garnett?
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Tim Duncan? Chris Bosh? Manu Ginobli? After LeBron, those might be the next douchiest (pretty sure that’s not a word haha) guys in the league.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Jul 1, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Jason Terry
Biggest of them all
A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on - Winston Churchill
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Jul 1, 2011 2:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Faceplam.
Definitely. Not sure how I forgot him.
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No, that's K-Love.
Ugh.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 1, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?
I have not hate for him.
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*no
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Nope, Lebron takes the cake on that one.
And it isn’t close.
E-5-1-50
by mike_o on Jul 3, 2011 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wait, WHAT?
Tim Duncan is a douche?
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 1, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe not,
but he’s annoying. I hate his face every time he gets called for a foul. Plus he’s a Spur. That’s 2 strikes right there.
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I have a great respect for good big man play.
TD, Camby in his prime (when he wasn’t being an idiot), LaMarcus Aldridge, Lopez, Bogut…
But then you get to Melo, one of the worst defensive players ever, Andrew Bynum the thug, Pau Gasol, and nonexistent Noah…
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 1, 2011 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Hell yeah. He acts entitled to every one of those soft ass calls he gets for him.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Jul 6, 2011 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
KG: ANYTHING'S POSSIBLE!™
KG punches Channing Frye in the you-know-where
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 1, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly.
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His process might be up for debate,
but his results are pretty incredible. FO had some numbers on him and the total number of successes and the success percent against him justified the hype. I can’t find the article right now. I’ll do some more digging.
All is vanity.
cough Obrien cough
A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on - Winston Churchill
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Jul 1, 2011 3:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Who else?
Revis is like the LeBron James of CBs.
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
"Here I am, brain the size of a planet,
and they ask me to pick up a piece of paper.
You call that job satisfaction?
'Cause, I don't."
It was my thread.
We all knew it would go there eventually, especially with the way everyone lost interest in this list.
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I do NOT come to this PACKERS site for basketball talk!
We all knew it would go there eventually.
I am reading this thread to see what people are saying about the worthless
NFL Network’s “Top 100 Players of 2011”list, and, if I would have known that it would eventually turn into a basketball discussion, I would have avoided it like the plague, just as I do with those other
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
"Here I am, brain the size of a planet,
and they ask me to pick up a piece of paper.
You call that job satisfaction?
'Cause, I don't."
You know, it's times like these that-
HOLY SHIT, BRETT FAVRE JUST THREW ANOTHER INTERCEPTION!
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"If you don't tell him what he wants to hear, he's going to find you out. And when he does, they're going to tear your head off and throw your BODY OUT OF AN AIRLOCK!" - Number Six, "Bastille Day"
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 2, 2011 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder if anybody
has intercepted Deanna, yet. :)
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
"Here I am, brain the size of a planet,
and they ask me to pick up a piece of paper.
You call that job satisfaction?
'Cause, I don't."
THE BEARS STILL SUCK!
I think she may have mastered the ball control offense
Unlike someone else.
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"If you don't tell him what he wants to hear, he's going to find you out. And when he does, they're going to tear your head off and throw your BODY OUT OF AN AIRLOCK!" - Number Six, "Bastille Day"
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 4, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I had a feeling that my comment
was going to get taken that way.
What I meant was, intercepted her from that someone else, in the aftermath of it all. :)
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
"Here I am, brain the size of a planet,
and they ask me to pick up a piece of paper.
You call that job satisfaction?
'Cause, I don't."
THE BEARS STILL SUCK!
But,
I will keep this in mind in the future.
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
"Here I am, brain the size of a planet,
and they ask me to pick up a piece of paper.
You call that job satisfaction?
'Cause, I don't."
It was a joke man.
I have other places I can talk basketball. If someone else mentions it, I’ll respond though.
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Muahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You might as well put Ty Law in place of Revis
because that’s who Revis basically is.
Excuse me while I go and vomit.
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"If you don't tell him what he wants to hear, he's going to find you out. And when he does, they're going to tear your head off and throw your BODY OUT OF AN AIRLOCK!" - Number Six, "Bastille Day"
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 4, 2011 12:18 AM CDT reply actions
oh please
the bears would trade number 10 for number eleven in less than a heartbeat
I'd just as soon never hear another word from that fluttering asswheel. - RWShow
So I can see #1
But does Manning still deserve the #2 spot?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Based on body of work
I would say he does… But based on last year and projecting into ’11 season, I would say no…
You've been Stroh'd™!!!
JUICE WILLIAMS FOR THE #1 SPOT!
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 8, 2011 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Why not?
Have you looked at the season he had last year???? I implore you to click this link and take a look:
http://www.nfl.com/player/peytonmanning/2501863/careerstats?id=MAN515097
Granted his QB rating was slightly down from his best years but DUDE, the guy was missing his #2 WR and #1 TE for most of the year. The Oline is patchwork and that is being nice. He had virtually no running game, yet he put up 4700 yards and 33 tds! That is RIDICULOUS! I’d take him over everyone out there…well almost everyone.
He’s only one year older than Brady and has a history of his team needing everything he has to win (whereas Brady seems to have a little more support around him…ie a great D). I think Manning is rightly located in this vote.
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by TrevorR on Jul 12, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well...
here’s the thing. Would you take his awful performances against San Diego, New England, and Dallas (Seriously, DALLAS!)?
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 12, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Definitely. Just because Dallas under performed doesn’t mean they didn’t have a talented team (they most certainly did). I didn’t see the SD game but I remember the NE game, and I certainly wouldn’t call his performance “awful” in that one. He was the only reason the Colts were even in the game. In what universe is throwing 400 yards and completing well over 70% of your passes not good? That was a crappy way for the Colts to lose too. Though I suppose it was pretty fitting for his OL to let a guy through to disrupt his throw. It wasn’t like that was something that he didn’t put up with all year.
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Jul 12, 2011 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not good
when you throw three picks, all of which were somewhat preventable, including the moonball pick to basically seal the game.
Manning statistically was incredible despite all the personnel losses, but at the end of the day, he contributed massively to three games that the Colts could and should have won (Dallas in OT, New England, and Philadelphia). The first Jacksonville game was fluky as any game I’ve ever seen; Indianapolis just got the short end of a tossup game.
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"If you don't tell him what he wants to hear, he's going to find you out. And when he does, they're going to tear your head off and throw your BODY OUT OF AN AIRLOCK!" - Number Six, "Bastille Day"
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 12, 2011 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions
The moonball resulted because one of the Patriots hit his arm as he was throwing. I can’t remember who that throw was intended for but they were actually open.
Not only was he statistically incredible, he somehow managed to put that team on his back and lead them to the playoffs. You stick any other QB on that team, and they don’t make it. Period. And they probably don’t have anymore than 6, maybe 7 wins. Last year was what, the first time in like 5 or 6 years that Manning’s Colts didn’t win 12 games or more right?
Fire Slocum
by packallday555 on Jul 12, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
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