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Potential Packers Cuts: Have Your Say On Tauscher, Chillar, Poppinga And Harrell

We've already learned that the Green Bay Packers will probably trade or cut Nick Barnett before the season starts, saving themselves quite a bit of money, but there's no way that the veteran middle linebacker will be the team's only cap casualty. There are four other players who we've discussed as potential cap casualties frequently: Brandan Chillar, Brady Poppinga, Justin Harrell and Mark Tauscher. Let's talk about them some more.

None of these four players are expected to start this coming season for various reasons. Poppinga and Chillar both lost their places to injuries, but not really. They were always decent, serviceable players, but neither ever had their position on lock. Chillar is owed $2.6 million this season, and Poppinga is owed $2.3 million. Cheap and talented players like Frank Zombo and Erik Walden make them expendable.

Justin Harrell is a completely different story. A former first round pick, injuries and other factors have slowed Harrell's development and he's never really looked like a guy who could make an impact in the NFL. He's only owed $650k this season so Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy might be willing to give him another shot. However, he's also owed a roster bonus. Due to the NFL lockout, I am not sure when that roster bonus is due.

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Then there's Mark Tauscher. A fan favorite, a locker room favorite, and all-around awesome dude, Tauscher has shown his age in recent years. He's owed $4.5 million this year, and it's hard to imagine that the Packers will keep him around at that price. If he wants to play for the Packers this season, he will almost certainly have to re-sign for less money.

Let's have a discussion about these guys in the comments. Do you keep any of the four, or are none worth their current paychecks to the Packers? Do you want to keep one of Poppinga and Chillar, but not both? Are you willing to give Harrell another shot? Have your say below, and I'll make sure to chime in after ya'll have got it going.

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I agree with cutting Chillar and Poppinga, they are just not worth that kind of money.

Although I cannot believe I am typing this, give Harrel another chance. And sign Tauscher for the vet minimum if he is agreeable.

by Bucky's Boys on Jul 27, 2011 8:47 AM CDT reply actions  

I think Harrell should get another shot too...

hell, at this point why not?

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Jul 27, 2011 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

How many chances does a guy get?

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by TrevorR on Jul 27, 2011 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

One good one....

that he hasn’t had yet.

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Jul 27, 2011 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

This is the kind of headline I like to see!!!
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I just can’t see a guy with cronic back issues and now recovering from an ACL being someone that is going to ever have a real impact for us.

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by TrevorR on Jul 28, 2011 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree.

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by NorthStarr on Jul 28, 2011 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't give Harrell another chance

Hell, maybe Washington would like to have him. But Poppinga needs to go, Chillar I’m on the fence on just in case we need a bit of depth if Bishop or anybody goes down this season.

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by P-Townfan on Jul 27, 2011 9:00 AM CDT reply actions  

We can’t lose both Barnett and Chillar. We need some experience and real talent backing up the ILB team.

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by TrevorR on Jul 27, 2011 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

My thoughts as well.

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by Omaha Sun on Jul 27, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who goes?

Since it seems the Packers are trying to move Barnett, it seems Chillar will stay. He’s better inside than Poppinga is on the outside. Poppinga is valuable on STs, but that isn’t enough, IMO, to stay in Green Bay. Frank Zombo is a Kevin Greene favorite, so he’ll stay ahead of Poppinga.

In another article, Harrell’s desire to play is questioned. That, combined with his lack of production, make this time for him to move on…on or off the field.

Bringing Tauscher back at the veteran’s minimum works if he’s willing to accept that. I’d like to see it happen since he’s been described as a “coach on the field,” and that would be great for the young linemen.

by Slim11 on Jul 27, 2011 9:02 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Chillar

I don’t see him going. There is no way they get rid of Barnett AND Chillar. Last time I checked Welden and Zombo were both on the outside. Chillar serves a great role on the team and will be the top guy that gives the inside backers a rest. I don’t see him going anywhere. Poppinga’s time has come and gone…he needs to go. Same with Harrell…I am SOOOOO done with this game. We don’t have roster spots to waste on injury riddled players. I don’t care about his talent or if he shines for someone elses team. I am done waiting. Done seeing quality players that could contribute cut and signed by someone else. I don’t even want him around for camp to tease the coaches.

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by TrevorR on Jul 27, 2011 9:25 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I have a feeling that if we let Harrell go, he’s gonna have a coming out party for some other team. If we’re letting Jenkins walk, and Neal is projected to come back to full health a few games after the season opener, I say we keep Harrell and see what he can do. He was drafted in the first by TT for a reason, maybe after a few years we’ll find out

as for Tauscher, maybe they should keep in around as a coaching assistant or an o-line consultant like the saints did with John Carney (http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2009/12/john_carney_returns_to_the_new.html)

by chillier ale on Jul 27, 2011 10:05 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

That Tauscher idea...

…is just crazy enough to work! Keep his great personality on the team even though he’s not on the team.

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by HailVarsity on Jul 27, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am totally fine with him having a coming out party for some other team. CUT THE LOSSES. The good money is on him ending up on someone’s IR…

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by TrevorR on Jul 27, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

You Forgot

Matt Wilheim, isnt he due 2.5 mil this year or something ridiculous?

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by arodgb on Jul 27, 2011 10:11 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I don't think so...

He was just signed last year to finish the season and IIRC was just playing for the vets minimum. Bring him back at that to compete for a roster spot. I don’t think he got a mulit-year contract and it certainly wasn’t for 2.5M.

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by Strohman on Jul 27, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nah, Wilhelm is a UFA

He was only making like $500k or something similar last year (probably the minimum allowed for his experience level).

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by Wiedmann on Jul 27, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why get rid of Chillar?

His contract is bigger than Poppinga’s sure, but you know what? His role is bigger too. He will still come in with subpackages and see the field in more than a spelling and special teams capacity.

Added to this is the fact that we still need depth at the ILB position. Hawk and Bishop are durable, but to just slash at that position for little to no reason is just stupid. We will be cutting Barnett so keeping Chillar becomes even more important now.

by PackApologist on Jul 27, 2011 10:59 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Couldn’t agree more!

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by TrevorR on Jul 27, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cuts

Other cuts should be Tauscher and Poppinga. Re-sign Tuascher for the vets minimum if he will agree to it. I would talk to Harrell about giving the Packers a break on the bonus money. If he is willing to drop that and just play for the salary keep him for sure. If he isn’t willing to do that, I would consider cutting him. I actually want to see him stick this year and see what he can do if healthy. He’s got the perfect skill set for the LDE that Pickett is playing. We need to keep Chillar at ILB.

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by Strohman on Jul 27, 2011 11:16 AM CDT reply actions  

Harrell

What a joke.

He gone!

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by TheBeerBaron on Jul 27, 2011 12:57 PM CDT reply actions  

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Cut Poppinga and Tauscher, then re-sign Tauscher.

Keep Chillar for ST’s and back-up backer.

Harrell is a keeper. The guy knows the system. It’s not like he will be soaking up ridiculous amounts of the coaching time. Moreso the doctors, but he is talented no doubt. You cannot just cut a guy because you are sick of his injuries, especially if your doctors clear him for FB.

Besides, I am not sure he can beat out BJ Raji, Jarius Wynn, Mike Neal, CJ Wilson, L. Guy, Howard Greene, and Ryan Pickett. I think Wynn especially might surprise this year.

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by Tedaldtada29 on Jul 27, 2011 1:10 PM CDT reply actions  

You cannot just cut a guy because you are sick of his injuries, especially if your doctors clear him for FB.

…see Sanders, Bob, Indianapolis Colts. They JUST did that with him and he actually accomplished something on the field and actually played high quality meaningful football.

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by TrevorR on Jul 27, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought that was a bad move.

But that was more fueled by his contract and the fact that many thought he was not the same player after all the injuries.

Harrell impressed last training camp. He showed he could contribute when healthy.

If your argument is he will get hurt because he always gets hurt, then I cannot really say much. It is hard to argue with a blanket statement such as that.

I’m not saying we should keep the guy if he isn’t healthy. But if he is cleared, and they see some of the same talents they saw before, they would be moronic not to keep him. The 90 man rosters make it easier too.

You don’t dump value until it is unavoidable. And I think there is some value left to be squeezed out of JH.

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by Tedaldtada29 on Jul 27, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

My argument is that every year we clear out a player that could be helping the team to make room for him. Last we had a half a dozen guys that were cut in the last cuts that were immediately signed and fought over by multiple teams. This year we are even deeper and even more talented so its likely that teams are going to stay up all night until our list shows up. All Harrell is right now in my book is potential. he’s shown glimpses in practices and the pre season but he’s done NOTHING in the regular season even when he is playing.

I’m not even convinced he’s good enough to make the team if he gets through camp.

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by TrevorR on Jul 27, 2011 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree with TrevorR

Every year we end up cutting someone in the preseason that deserves to be on the team, just so we can keep Harrell. The guy is a complete waste of roster space, and will end up on IR like he always does, if we keep him. Its time to move on.

by Katsuya89 on Jul 27, 2011 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Every year we clear a spot for someone who goes on IR

We should have cut Finley in the preseason, I suppose, huh?

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by Wiedmann on Jul 27, 2011 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

umm…not at all what I said.

My argument is that every year we clear out a player that could be helping the team to make room for him.

Lets see Finley on IR once…Harrell 3-4 times now, yeah I totally see the correlation!

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by TrevorR on Jul 28, 2011 7:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

What has he shown you that makes you think he’s going to ever do anything productive for the Packers. When he has played in real games he’s been uneffective.

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by TrevorR on Jul 28, 2011 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

However, he[Harrell]’s also owed a roster bonus. Due to the NFL lockout, I am not sure when that roster bonus is due.

It depends on how it was negotiated. Some are for the 1st day of the league year, and some are for making the final 53-man roster. If Harrell’s cut within the next week, you can bet that it was for the 1st day of the league year.

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by Wiedmann on Jul 27, 2011 1:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Moves

Cut Poppinga- He makes too much to do nothing. He’s simply not a good OLB.
Keep Chillar- Yes, he’s overpaid. However, he does play often in a rotation and on passing downs. Losing Barnett hurts our depth at ILB enough, so we can’t afford to lose Chillar in the same year.
Let Tauscher walk- Yes, he’s a fan favorite, but he’s simply not productive anymore. We drafted Sherrod, so without Tauscher, we already have 4 OT’s (Clifton, Bulaga, Sherrod, Newhouse). We need that extra roster spot for someone else.
Keep Justin Harrell- Ouch! No, seriously. Keep him through Preseason to see what he does. If he’s not productive in Preseason, then cut him. He doesn’t make much money. If he gets injured, then we sign someone else to take his place. It’s hard to argue keeping Harrell, but if he is finally going to turn the corner to be healthy and productive, I don’t want to miss the opportunity.

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by Jabooty on Jul 27, 2011 5:34 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Alas I don't think the Pack will take that sound advice

Right now the rumbling is that Poppinga sticks. I guess if thee cap stuff can be cleared up it could make sense to see how he fares in camp….I guess.

The rest of the stuff I see happening although I would prefer to see Tausch negotiate for a smaller contract rather than just hitting the streets.

by PackApologist on Jul 27, 2011 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Poppinga's staying?

WTF?! How many OLB’s are we going to have? Surely someone is going to be cut, but who? Poppinga is the worst one and is overpaid!!!! Come on’ Teddy, get it done!

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by Jabooty on Jul 27, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably keep 5 OLB

plus another one or two on the Practice squad. Matthews, Walden, Zombo, Jones seem certain to make it. They could just keep 4, but 5 is certainly possible if he is a core ST guy and Poppinga is… The wildcard is Elmore. If he steps up BIG time they might keep him on the 53, but I think he is a year from challenging for a roster spot.

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by Strohman on Jul 28, 2011 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's his agent who says that...

…so take that with a grain of salt.

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by Wiedmann on Jul 28, 2011 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Depth on team

Let Harrell hang around for as minimun salary as possible, depth on D-line is critical to success, same with Tauscher for offense. I hope injury bug of last year is gone, but depth at LB could be big issue for Pack, Matthews needs help on outside and fresh LB legs on field in 4th quarter is critical. Of the three LB’s Barnett, Chillar and Poppinga, maybe Packers can re-sign Chillar later if depth is needed since Barnett’s sure to get a shot somewhere. I disagree with the philosophy against signing FA’s from other teams, if the player has the skills and in the team age group, it’s worth it—look at how Walden and Howard Green worked for Packers in playoffs. Don’t forget that nearly 50% of players from Holmgren’s SB winner was players picked up from other teams thru waivers or trades.

by Shavager on Jul 29, 2011 12:07 PM CDT reply actions  

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