Looking At The Packers Depth At Tight End

Not sure why he was back in the first place. Havner does nothing for me.

but a lot of the success of our undrafted players has a lot to do with the strength of our coaching. And I would be worried if as a fan of another team, my GM was relying on another GM to do good scouting for himself.

Yeah, I remember when he was on the Greta Vansusterenenen show way back when, and he made the comment (with feigned sincerity): “Hey, maybe Rodgers will do great and they’ll all look like geniuses, who knows?”

Mr. Hammer, I’d like you to meet my friend, Mr. Nail.

Should have beaten Crabtree out of a roster spot last year. Why would you think, if he couldn’t do it last year that he can this year? Crabtree is a better blocker and apparently better ST player (and I would say better reciever too), since they kept him last year thats the only logical conclusion. I said last year, that Havner was a marginal NFL player at best and he wasn’t worth keeping! Has he done anything in the past year to prove otherwise? No… Havner isn’t worth keeping and is at the bottom of the depth chart. Say goodbye Spencer!

Much to the dismay of almost everyone else, I was right about Havner last year and nothing has changed, except that we have even more talent at TE!

Flashes of brilliance? I think you are giving him much more credit than he’s earned. Catching a ball when you are wide open is not brilliance.

But what do we trade for?

Draft picks I would imagine. Player-for-player trades are fairly rare in the NFL.

Myeh, I’m reasonably sure that Quarless will get there, probably this season. Therefore, I’d say that, if you’re going to trade one of ‘em, why not sell high on Finley instead of selling low on Quarless? …remember Finley’s rookie year? The guy was all over the place. Now that he’s developed, he’s an outstanding commodoty. …but how long will that last? Meanwhile you’ve got Quarless, who’s likely to break out this season if given the opportunity, not to mention 2 or 3 guys behind him who are either solid or on the rise.

Now, don’t get me wrong. I don’t think we should trade any of them, and I’m very much looking forward to showing multiple-TE formations. I mean… there’s almost no limit to what we can do with our personnel. We all remember the big-5 fondly, but we could go back and forth now where we get the opposition on their heels with 5-WRs, and then throw out a 4-TE formation, where everyone on the field was too big to be tackled by a CB, but too fast to be covered by a LB. Rodgers could walk up to the line, see what they did to try and match up with us, and audible to either a run or pass. That would be devastating. …and if we catch ‘em trying to load up against either the run or pass (like, say for instance we go 4-TEs on 3rd and short and pick up the first), then we could go no-huddle and lean on the mis-matches all the way down the field where you’ve got all 4 TEs split out like WRs, and suddenly you’d have DEs responsible for covering a RB out of the backfield. Or, at the very least, we could make ’em burn their time-outs half-way through the first quarter.

So… like I say, keeping all the TEs definitely has its upside.

Well, I only remember one game in the McCarthy era where we really made what I’d consider to be a heavy use of the 5-WR formation: the Thanksgiving day game against the Lions in ‘07. That’s the game where Favre had 22 straight completions. Since then, we’ve seen it once or twice in a game here or there, but the coaches never seem to do exotic-type stuff unless they’re forced into it by injuries. And I don’t remember ever seeing more than two TEs on the field in the past, so…

I’d say the answer to your question is that we’ll probably see pretty conventional stuff personnel-wise most of the time. While I hope that we’ll do some crazy/interesting stuff, I’d have to bet that the dominant formation will probably be RB, FB, TE, 2 WRs.

not so sure…that WAS his position and they moved him from it so he couldn’t have been too spectacular.

Whos going to contribute more to the team? A 5th TE that excels on ST and is a good reciever and blocker or a FB who is a poor ST play and cant run or catch? No brainer to me… Keep Kuhn let Johnson go and keep 5 TE or 6 WR. I just dont see enough from Johnson to make it worth keeping him around. Put the other FB on the practice squad to learn the playbook and be a backup to Kuhn if he misses any games just elevate him from the practice squad. Makes the most sense to me!

Any of the CB’s assuming we keep at least 5 should be really good in that role. But yeah, I can see going w/ 6 WR this year. Especially if any of the UDFA WR make an impression. We have like 3 of them that have made plays and sound like potential keepers. They have to be good on ST too tho.

Cobb, Shifty?