The Zombo Aftermath
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McCarthy has indicated that he believes Zombo will return "sooner rather than later," but word is that this type of injury takes about six weeks to heal. That timetable for recovery would put us well into the regular season, so it's all but a given that Erik Walden will be the starter at OLB. Additionally, Brad Jones, who I think was previously a candidate for the cutting block, can now feel a little safer about his roster spot.
While this much may be true, there's a lot of uncertainty involving depth at OLB, as well as Zombo's own roster status. Because he's not eligible to be placed on the Physically Unable to Perform (PUP) list, the Packers really only have three options.
Option 1 - Keep him on the active roster
As McCarthy intimated, Zombo has a history of overcoming injuries in a timely fashion. He fought through an ankle injury last preseason to make the team, and recovered from a knee injury in time to start in the Super Bowl and make a key contribution. This injury may mean that he's out of contention to be the opening day starter, but there's no reason to think he can't recover quickly and be healthy and available a week or two into the regular season.
This approach, however, would necessitate taking out some insurance, and probably keeping an additional OLB on the 53 man roster. UFA outside linebackers Vic So'oto and Jamari Lattimore, who are both on the bubble right now, would be the likely candidates. However, by keeping Zombo on the roster and carrying an extra OLB, there may not be room on the team for the likes of a Chastin West or a young defensive back like Josh Gordy.
Option 2 - Place him on Injured Reserve
It's never appealing to place a guy on IR and render him ineligible for a whole season, when in reality his injury will only keep him out for a handful of weeks. But that may be an option the Packers have to consider. Reserving a roster spot for an incapacitated Zombo at the expense of another player is equally unappealing. While the Packers like Zombo and want to keep him as an option for next year, they may decide that the gap between him and Walden and Jones is minimal enough to move on without him available for 2011.
If the Pack go this route, then they definitely need to add another OLB behind Clay Matthews, Walden, and Jones. Again, barring the addition of an outsider, that competition would come down to So'oto and Lattimore, and the loser would probably end up on the practice squad.
Option 3 - Cut him
With the option to place him on IR, cutting Zombo seems pretty unlikely. At the very least, you'd probably want to bring him back and have him compete in 2012. But we've seen Ted Thompson make rasher decisions before. Perhaps the Packers were only planning on moving on with two OLBs out of the Zombo-Walden-Jones trifecta, and Zombo has just eliminated himself from consideration. Perhaps Ted Thompson concludes that Zombo's health problems will always make him an unreliable asset, and decides to part ways with him now. Who knows. While this option is definitely a remote possibility, I wouldn't be completely dumbfounded if it transpired. But it'd definitely be a shocker.
Conclusion
At this point, this is all speculation. Until we know for certain how long the Packers expect Zombo to be out, it's futile to think one of the above courses of action is a guarantee. But these are the options Thompson and Co. are considering as they wait for the prognosis. If they can afford to wait, it's Option 1. If they need the roster spot for someone else, it's Option 2. And if TT wants to flabbergast us once again, he'll go with Option 3.
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What about PUP?
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 22, 2011 7:11 PM CDT reply actions
Crap, cut off my comment.
Why isn’t it an option?
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 22, 2011 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
He wouldn't be available till after the 6th week.
But it is an option. And if on PUP he can’t practice w/ the team. Keeping Zombo on the 53 roster still makes the most sense, IMO. He should be able to stay in some semblance of football shape while the shoulder blade heals and be ready to play as soon as the Dr clears him. Which is about a 4-6 week timeframe, depending on the severity. Didn’t require surgery or any screws to hold it in place. Must be just a crack in the bone…
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PUP
Pretty sure they can put him on PUP if they do it before the cutdown day. Forget exactly how that works.
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I thought guys go on PUP in midseason?
Is PUP strictly for weeks 1-6 (or 8)?
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Guys can go from Active PUP to Reserve PUP
Reserve PUP is weeks 1-6 of the regular season, but you have to start on the Active PUP to be eligible for Reserve, and you have to get on the Active PUP before you practice in camp.
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by Green and Bold on Aug 23, 2011 2:59 AM CDT up reply actions
He's not eligible for PUP
At least that’s what I’ve been hearing. Once you practice in camp, you can’t go on the PUP.
McCarthy makes it sound like he expects him to be back in a few weeks. If not, I’m not sure he’s worth keeping on the roster without playing for an extended period of time. Walden doesn’t seem like much of a drop off.
I think this is probably an area we look to add a FA, if we’re not comfortable enough with So’oto or Lattimore.
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If he’s out for 2 months then put him on IR. If its a month or so they’ll carry him on the roster. I don’t see them releasing him outright. He’s got some talent to work with, so they’ll hang onto him almost w/o a doubt. Either way they’ll be looking at guys on waivers after cutdown day. Beside which you can’t release a player who is injured. They would have to give him an injury settlment which amounts to rehab fees and pay while he’s injured. If you gotta pay him during that time, then it doesn’t make sense to release him.
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No, there's probably no way they cut him.
Just thought i’d mention it as a remote possibility.
I think it all comes down to how the Packers feel about the talent around and behind him. I think it’s safe to say Walden is on par with Zombo, and Brad Jones is a decent back-up. If So’oto and Lattimore are considered to be quality depth, or if we sign a veteran in free agency, is an injured Zombo, who’s not even the clear cut best OLB opposite Matthews, really worth cutting someone who’s healthy and can contribute?
But yes, the timeline is certainly an important variable, too. I think the one month mark you identified is about right.
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by Green and Bold on Aug 22, 2011 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty sure this is incorrect
Once you practice in camp, you can’t go on the PUP.
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Actually, the way it wor--
Hold that…there’s a lot of conflicting info out there. The guys over at ChesseheadTV have been saying he’s ineligible for the PUP and I’ve also read it elsewhere on the internetz that practicing makes you ineligible. But now I’m seeing conflicting info. Makes you wish the people who actually get paid to report on this kind of stuff would provide some answers. I’ll keep digging. But if he is eligible for the PUP, I think that’s the best option, assuming he is out 4-6 weeks.
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by Green and Bold on Aug 23, 2011 2:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Nevermind, I take that back.
I’m right. He is ineligible for the practice squad.
Key Points:
The Active PUP is for players that have some form of injury that will prevent them from starting training camp.
A player has to be placed on Active PUP before he begins training camp.
At the end of preseason, if an Active PUP player is still several weeks away from being able to play, the team may place him on Reserve PUP.
And one of the most important rules, a player must be on Active PUP in order to be considered for Reserve PUP.
You have to be on the Active PUP to be eligible for the Reserve PUP, and since he practiced during training camp, he is not eligible for the Active PUP and therefore has no way of getting on the Reserve PUP. At least that’s the way I read it.
So, looks like the options are keep him on the roster or put him on IR.
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by Green and Bold on Aug 23, 2011 2:52 AM CDT up reply actions
But the real questions here is....
will this affect his Zoro move in the future…. without that, I’m not sure what we would do.
We’ve already lost the Samurai.
In Every Climb and Place....
by PhoenicianPakFan on Aug 23, 2011 1:02 AM CDT reply actions
"Frank Zombo will be out for some time. Zombo broke his scapula (shoulder blade to us less medically inclined folks) "
Thanks! I was wondering how the hell breaking a kitchen utensil was going to affect his play on the field. I mean, unless he was that heartbroken over not having eggs in the morning.
In Every Climb and Place....
by PhoenicianPakFan on Aug 23, 2011 1:06 AM CDT reply actions
I hear ya...
can’t go without em!
In Every Climb and Place....
by PhoenicianPakFan on Aug 23, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions

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