Well, That Was Exciting: Packers Beat Colts 24-21
Aaron Rodgers started off quickly and never really stopped, completing an impressive 19 passes on 23 attempts for 204 yards and a TD. Chances are if he doesn't get sacked 3 (or 4) times, he ends up with even more impressive numbers in the game.
Despite an excellent performance through the air by Rodgers, the Packers mustered only 10 points in the first half and found themselves trailing at the half after two touchdown passes by Curtis Painter. The first on a completely blown coverage by Morgan Burnett that resulted in a 57-yard TD by Reggie Wayne, and the second on a perfectly placed pass right over the top of the ever-so-infuriating Jarrett Bush.
Matt Flynn replaced Rodgers in the 3rd Quarter, but didn't manage much aside from a 4 of 6 performance for 32 yards, no TDs, and no INTs. Graham Harrell trots out...and comes dangerously close to throwing a pick six. Later in the fourth quarter, he came dangerously close to throwing a pick six, overthrowing the receiver and placing the ball into the hands of Mike Newton. Newton, glad to receive Harrell's gift, returned the interception 36 yards to the Packer's 3-yard line.
The big return would set up a touchdown by David Gilreath on the very next play, one that gave Indianapolis a 21-13 lead. Harrell, moments after his huge mistake, responded. He responded by leading a touchdown drive for the tie, leading the Packers into the Indianapolis redzone. On 4th down, Harrell found Ryan Taylor for an 11-yard touchdown strike, then converted the two-point conversion to Taylor for the tie.
Mike McCarthy did the unexpected on the kickoff. Mason Crosby lined up...and snuck in an onside kick, which M.D. Jennings recovered at the Green Bay 48. Two completions gained the Packers enough yards for a 50-yard FG attempt by Mason Crosby...who nailed the kick as time expired.
Well, that was fun.
THE GOOD
Aaron Rodgers's passing performance: 19 of 23 passing for 204 yards is good, very good. Nobody's going to complain about that kind of accuracy in the regular season.
Mike McCarthy's call for the onside kick: Gutsy. If this doesn't work, Indianapolis has 3 timeouts and excellent field position to work with.
Jermichael Finley's epic TD in the first half: Incredible play by Finley, getting incredible position right over the top of Pat Angerer and utterly posterizing the former Iowa Hawkeye. Angerer simply got caught in the wrong place at the wrong time.
THE BAD
Pass Protection: Ugly as ever. Chad Clifton got solidly owned by Dwight Freeney twice and was nailed for a holding call that negated a TD pass from Rodgers to Chastin West. 5 sacks on the day and several forced rollouts by GB QBs made this game hard to watch at points.
Reggie Wayne's 57-yard TD reception: Absolutely inexcusable gaffe by both cornerbacks and Morgan Burnett, one that left Reggie Wayne COMPLETELY open with no one in the same ZIP code. Not even Curtis Painter could screw that up.
Jarrett Bush getting burned in man-to-man coverage by Chris Brooks for a TD: This was uglier than it sounds. Jarret simply got beaten on a corner route and Painter dropped off a perfectly placed pass over his head to Brooks. As ThroughBeingCool put it, "there's the Jarrett Bush we know and loathe"
THE FINAL GUN
The end result, a Packers W, is perfectly acceptable. I'm still in shock about the onside kick call, but it was a great move by McCarthy that totally caught the Colts off-balance and set up a Packers win.
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Nit-pick.
Rodgers hit 19 of 23 passes. Otherwise, well done. This was an exciting game.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Aug 26, 2011 11:08 PM CDT reply actions
Corrected.
Thanks for catching that!
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 26, 2011 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I really think that
you need to emphasise just how terrible the secondary was in the first half. The colts dropped a few easy completions that could have really prolonged their drives. I think you also need to state just how terrible the offensive line was at times… Really frustrating against a non-elite defense even with Freeney.
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The Colts have two killer DEs and augmented their DT position
Freeney simply took advantage of Chad Clifton, and made him have a Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day Night.
Like it or not, nobody is going to make the mistake of calling our offensive line one of the top units in the league. The pieces are potentially in place for one, but until the execution on running plays improves (and you can see this most especially on the shotgun run plays, none of which really worked), the running game looks like it could be an issue.
Keep in mind that the same OL that got blown up for 5 sacks proceeded to give Starks the blocks he needed for some very nice gains on screen passes.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 26, 2011 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Not too worried bout the OL
While the team game planned for the Colts as a team, I don’t believe individual players put in the prep work and film study for their opponents (ex Clifton vs Freeney). So I wouldn’t put too much into this game. Obviously if this happens in wk 1 vs NO, then it might be time to be worried. Clifton is an old pro and looked like he isn’t yet ready for wk 1. Lets not make too much of this…
Finley made a nice play on the TD and it was a great pass by Rodgers. Angerer actually played Finley about as good as you could expect for a LB covering Finley.
Bush needs to play Safety. He gets turned around to easily in man coverage, but seems to be do better when the play is in front of him in zone. Didn’t see House much, anyone see how he did?
Waynes TD is on Shields and Burnett, but got caught playing the WR in the slot. Must have been a great look/pump fake by Painter, cuz both bit REALLY hard on it!
Few things to clean up certainly, but not worth getting your panties in a bunch over. Looks like Harrell played himself into a roster spot to me. The INT was just a bit high, but he seemed to have really good command of the offense while in the game.
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House was in on a couple of defensive plays
but otherwise, minimal
"Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Vince Lombardi
Good point about Bush.
I remember seeing House once, WR caught a 7-8 yard pass on the sideline and House pushed him out. I was pretty distracted, though. Hope someone can step up, I’m tired of seeing Bush on the field at CB.
Is anyone concerned with the No Huddle Offense?
I understand this is our way of keeping a drive alive, but we won’t be able to win the Time of Possession battle doing this.
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by Green and Bold on Aug 27, 2011 2:18 AM CDT up reply actions
But they weren't getting TDs today....
and it seemed like the no huddle was wearing out the OLine.
I’d like to see them be able to score TDs without the no huddle….. at least once with the first team.
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Aug 27, 2011 2:42 AM CDT up reply actions
You're hurting your own defense then
We may have won the TOP against the Colts today, but it would have been a whole lot different against Peyton Manning. Had this been a Regular Season game, the 2nd Half could have been a disaster for us. Especially considering we only scored 10 points on 6 possessions in the 1st Half.
We didn’t have to win in shootouts last year because we had a good defense. We are now forcing ourselves into shootouts by doing this. You can’t expect our defense to play at an elite level if they’re always on the field. We may be able to dominate bad teams with this strategy, but we may suffer different results against teams with a legit starting QB.
Even if Rodgers does continue to let the game clock wind down to 3 seconds before the snap, he’s not letting his offensive linemen settle down. They need to be poised and relaxed. I think this is a good strategy to use on occasion when you can’t get anything going, but using it on every single drive is not the best decision.
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All true, but...
I don’t expect them to rely on this kind of offense. Rodgers said himself in an interview that they were just doing that as a way of keeping up the pace and getting a workout for their offense.
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exactly what I expect...
I think this is a good strategy to use on occasion when you can’t get anything going
I don’t see us using the no huddle regularly, maybe once a half or game, to jump start things, increase tempo and urgency. If used alot it tends to become a little counterproductive IMO.
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Occasional use
I think this is the right call. If we go out there on first down and see defensive personnel out there where the matchups are in our favor, you go no huddle. We bring out 4 WR and they only go nickel? No huddle. Stuff like that. Or when they’ve got guys out there that are more tired than ours. No huddle. When you see Ndamakung Suh come off the field for a play? No huddle.
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by I voted for Kodos on Aug 28, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
People who want to see their team win
This is especially true if there is a high powered offense on the other side of the ball. The way a football game is won in today’s NFL is a strong passing attack to establish a lead and then a strong running game to finish a team.
To answer Jabooty’s question, I’m very concerned that our offense can only seem to get going in the no huddle. More and more I think it’s the o-line. They aren’t opening holes, they aren’t getting protection, and this week had lots of stupid penalties. Sitton hasn’t looked good for two weeks now and Cliton just had his ass handed to him last night. If those two aren’t play to the expectation we are hoping for out of them then the Pack is in trouble (especially when Sherrod didn’ t look too hot last night either).
by PackApologist on Aug 27, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah but look who Clifton was trying to keep away from the QB
Let’s not forget that this Colts defense is designed specifically to get at the QB from the outside. The o-line had its work cut out for them, regardless and I thought they were… competent.
Now if you want to make the argument that the o-line looked god awful after the first unti left, I’ll happily agree with that. They were like holding out a flood with a sieve.
My only disappointment with the first unit was that they were not creating space for the running attack and the team as a whole was just not able to sell play action very well when it mattered – Rodgers didn’t really need to have any gamesmanship just because he could nail whoever he wanted with some of those passes, but it looked like the pass rush eventually figured out where he’d be more often. The Colts defense was just not buying it. I think the next game we’ll see a lot more of Grant as they try to prep him for Saints game and then we can talk about the running attack.
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Maybe, maybe not
Right now the offense concerns me. Most of it is tempo and feel. It seems like that no huddle is a crutch for the team…one they are clinging to in order to get a good tempo and move the ball. Once in the regular season they are going to need to be able to move the ball and get on the same page without that, otherwise they aren’t going to be able to eat the clock for 4 minute drill situations.
The running game and the play action I think will work themselves out….at least if they can get this timing piece down.
by PackApologist on Aug 27, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
The onside kick
Anyone else think that might have been MM’s solution to avoiding overtime in a preseason game? Or was he just trying to show everyone how good Crosby is at onsides kicks to justify his contract to fans who don’t think he’s good enough?
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by I voted for Kodos on Aug 26, 2011 11:33 PM CDT reply actions
Eh, Crosby's contract (5 yrs, $14 M) is not that bad when you compare it to what Olindo Mare got from Carolina (4 yrs, $12 M).
As for the onside kick, I think McCarthy just wanted to avoid OT (and rightfully so, in the preseason).
Carolina's contracts
Are bloated this year because they’re required to spend way more than they have in the past. They pretty much have to give Redskin-style contracts this year.
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by I voted for Kodos on Aug 27, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Not necessarily
The spending floor is only kinda in effect. Teams have 2 yrs I believe to meet the spending floor. Probably so a rebuilding team doesn’t have to overpay meaningless players just to reach it. They can continue to build the team and pay whom the chose…
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Or he was practicing onside kicks in a game, when they *need* to get the ball back.
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by ISN on Aug 27, 2011 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Of course
another thing—doing a surprise onside kick in a meaningless game keeps the idea in the mind of opposing return teams. Maybe it’ll help our coverage team if opponents leave an extra guy up close to cover a possible on-side every kickoff.
by DaveInTucson on Aug 27, 2011 3:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Onside kick
Showing it now, will keep opposing return teams from completely bailing during the kickoff. It gives our coverage teams a better opportunity to beat the blocking getting back.
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I don’t think McCarthy gives a flying $#!$ what he’s paid or what we think of it. That is TT job and I can guarantee you that Thompson couldn’t give two craps about our opinion on Crosby’s contract. :-)
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by TrevorR on Aug 27, 2011 6:52 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Well
If we stopped giving opinions when TT and MM didn’t care about them then APC would cease to exist altogether.
But seriously, MM does have an interest in who gets paid what. He might not make the roster decisions, but there’s no way he could be happy with losing players due to salary cap restrictions, so in a way he does care how much every single player makes.
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by I voted for Kodos on Aug 27, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Grant
How about we talk about how terrible GRANT looked (6-16). Aside from Starks getting rest, there should be no reason he steps off the field. END OF STORY!
by Jason Robertson on Aug 27, 2011 2:41 AM CDT reply actions
None of the RBs looked good today, at least not running.
I would imagine they will get more than 17 carries in regular games though.
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Aug 27, 2011 2:42 AM CDT up reply actions
You cant say none of the backs looked good…. Starks got one shot!
And he was deadly out of the backfield so I strongly disagree
by Jason Robertson on Aug 27, 2011 2:56 AM CDT up reply actions
He didn't look very good in his one shot.
You take what you can get.
He did look good receiving though.
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Aug 27, 2011 3:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Strongly disagree all you want
there’s a difference between rushing and recieving. Starks had some great receptions for positive yards, but the rushing attack didn’t look good at all.
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Looking at the stats, yes, he had a bad day.
But the offensive line was getting blown up. They made Tommie Harris look like an All-Pro out there, and Grant was getting three guys on him by the time he made it to the line of scrimmage
Very bad night from the starting offensive line, in both the running and passing game.
Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.
Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog
Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?
You are clearly a Grant homer as I was prior to Starks, Now I am a Starks homer so we probably wont see eye to eye. I am sure the better back will emerge come the first couple of weeks. Go Packers!
by Jason Robertson on Aug 27, 2011 4:05 AM CDT up reply actions
He's a Grant homer because he pointed out that the offensive line was getting blown up?
Okay…
by mike_o on Aug 27, 2011 4:09 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm a Grant homer too...
because I had a banana, took out the trash, and had a couple beers after work.
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Aug 27, 2011 4:14 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I read this at first as eating a banana out of the trash
Glad I reread
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Aug 27, 2011 7:31 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That would explain a LOT of things, actually...
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 27, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fixed that for you
because I had a banana I took out of the trash, and had a couple beers after work.
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by sheehan on Aug 27, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Considering I think Starks will wind up taking the starting job by Week 8, I am not a "Grant homer"
I’m just not an idiot who only looks at box scores to determine how people are playing. Like you.
Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.
Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog
Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?
Please refrain from the personal attacks.
13.
Grossman: Sup, you insulin needing bitch! The sex cannon has arrived! Now get the hell out of my locker room, you chinless mother fucker!
If he can call me “clearly a Grant homer” because I point out the offensive line blew, then I can call him an idiot.
Goes both ways.
Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.
Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog
Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?
Be a man, not a child.
but he did it first!
and really, “Grant homer” & “idiot” are not the same level of personal attack.
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I call it like I see it
Calling me a “Grant homer” when I point out the offensive line was to blame for most, if not all, of his short runs, implies that I can not think objectively about the situtation. That I can’t really “see” what’s going on, and that I don’t know what I am talking about here. Not too much different from “idiot” in my eyes.
But whatever, I’ll stop.
Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.
Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog
Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?
by Packers3485 on Aug 27, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We can all agree that Jay Cutler sucks.
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by Wiedmann on Aug 27, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hell, even Packers fans and Vikings fans can agree on that one..... :)
Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.
Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog
Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?
It was one game. He’s looked good in other games. Its not about the stats man…
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by TrevorR on Aug 27, 2011 6:50 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
please stop with the advocating Starks as starter
It’s a tired refrain and an issue that will get sorted out as the season goes on. Deep down you know, and if you don’t every one here already knows it. Still though, neither Grant nor Starks has had a great preseason. Neither has had a great carry (in fact our longest run of the preseaon has been what….nine yards?) This means that no one has closed the story on who the starting running back should be….and the tie is probably going to go to Grant.
Here’s my question though….Who cares?
Seriously, do you think the Packers are going to have a feature back like previous years where the starter is used as a feature back? Maybe, but I doubt it. I think we are going to see Starks and Grant used interchangably with MM calling more carries for the guy who displays the hot hand. So Starks will get his carries if he does something with the ones he’s given. So far he hasn’t done that.
You know what will go even a longer way for Starks than any of that though? Blitz pick up. I don’t care about his receptions, or how he looked at that….frankly Green has looked better than him in that department. What I do care about is watching and going “Wow, did you how Starks just stuffed that guy?” That hasn’t happened yet either.
James Starks is a big bundle of hope. That’s great, but I’m getting sick of the Starks fan boys crying and wailing for him to get the ball when he hasn’t gotten on the field much or really produced much of anything. He’s a great addition to our team, but I’m starting to get more excited for our future with Alex Green than I am with James Starks.
by PackApologist on Aug 27, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Everybody is so damn impatient...
They want their guy, and they want him now! I say, they should take a chill pill; the RB situation will work itself out. This cannot happen if the games haven’t even been played yet…
by mike_o on Aug 27, 2011 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
STARKS STARKS STARKS
RABBLERABBLERABBLE
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 27, 2011 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Agreed on Green.
Although he was in late and against backups, he looked extraordinarily shifty back there.
Mike McCarthy’s call for the onside kick: Gutsy. If this doesn’t work, Indianapolis has 3 timeouts and excellent field position to work with.
Think that was the point. Either way, someone was winning before OT.
Also, hate the word “posterizing”. It’s an NBA term. Leave it there.
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Aug 27, 2011 2:51 AM CDT reply actions
Yeah…it was totally the right call. Its the preseason, no one usually wants OT. Someone needs to get the ball and score fast!
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 27, 2011 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Silly Matt Hasselbeck.
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by texwestern on Aug 27, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Its funny even Starks was shaking his head because he wanted the rock, love the kid more and more with every down!
by Jason Robertson on Aug 27, 2011 2:59 AM CDT reply actions
Small point on the blown coverage
It wasn’t a gaffe by both the cornerbacks and Burnett. One of them was supposed to have the inside receiver (I believe it was Garcon on that play). Bush was the inside corner, Shields lined up outside on Wayne. So unless the defensive call was meant to leave no one on Garcon instead of no one on Wayne, one of them did what they were supposed to. And amazingly, it looks like it might have been Bush for once.
Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.
Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog
Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?
The JSOnline article quotes Burnett as saying it was all his fault...
and I got that from the coverage of the game as well. He was supposed to be over the top on that one.
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Aug 27, 2011 3:18 AM CDT up reply actions
I think he might just be doing the whole "fall on your sword" thing there for his teammates
Because I have a hard time believing both corners would have been assigned the same zone to cover, which is what they wound up doing. One of them must have screwed up too. I’m guessing Shields, since having him come from the outside cover the short pass while Bush goes from the slot to cover the medium-to-long zone seems sort of……..counter-intuitive.
Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.
Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog
Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?
That did seem kinda weird....
but I think he just meant that he was the safety valve on that and should have been on the receiver even if the corners weren’t.
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Aug 27, 2011 3:42 AM CDT up reply actions
It's only preseason
Save the endless bong hits for the regular season, man!
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by I voted for Kodos on Aug 27, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The onside...
Wasn’t the most shocking part to me…the most shocking part was that they went for TWO. Coaches HATE overtime in the preseason so for him to go for the tie was amazingly shocking for me. I was glad to see it happen though cause its great experience for the guys in there. Glad to see those guys were able to execute on a clutch play like that (and the onside kick).
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I kinda like what Mac said after the game though...
how going for the extra point (and assuring a loss) is a terrible message to send to your team.
Now that I look at it, he did it the right way. Go for 2. If you miss, you lose, if you get it, its tied. Then kick onside. All aggressive, win-or-lose-quickly decisions meant to show confidence in his team but still avoid overtime.
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Aug 27, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Great Game
I was pumped at the end!
-Rodgers mentioned the hurry-up might have tired out the lineman. He said they were simply getting beat in 1-on-1’s.
-In the end, getting beat by Dwight Freeney is no real shame. I was much more pissed to see Sitton get blown up by Tommie Harris.
-Chastin West had another nice game.
-So’oto and Lattimore are worth holding onto, imo. Keep 5 OLB’s.
-Ryan Taylor looks really good. He is really big and nasty.
-Desmond Bishop was all over the place too. He is primed for a big season.
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Jarius Wynn
I forgot to mention him. I liked what I saw.
He def. makes the team this year.
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by Tedaldtada29 on Aug 27, 2011 7:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Good and Bad
Winners: So’oto showed a quick edge rush for a sack and stood up well against the run. He seems to have a slightly bigger frame; I thought his performance was very good. Ryan Taylor was outstanding, catching clutch passes and finding an opening for the tying TD. Also, I watched Sherrod on nearly every play at LT and he looked solid, handling the bull rush and tracking wide on outside rushes. I know he didn’t face Freeney, but Sherrod looked good for an extended period.
Losers: DJ Williams killed a fourth quarter drive by dropping a third down pass that hit him right in the hands. On the next drive, he had his defender beaten by three steps and Harrell overthrew him. Harrell didn’t look anywhere near as sharp as last week. Clifton was just blown up all night by Freeney: speed rushes, bull rushes, spin moves. Ouch. The running game. I was hoping McCarthy would get a few more carries in, but the run plays seemed like afterthoughts. Of Grant, Greene, and Starks, Grant certainly looks the most pedestrian. This will be his final year in the Green and Gold. I think Starks will be starting by midseason.
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Good Win
A very nice performance by Rodgers, despite the sacks (and that’s partly the fault of the offensive line). Mess-up on Wayne’s touchdown, but we bounced back and won a good one.
Pretty solid, actually
of course, he was solid and Clifton and Sitton got owned. Ugly performance by them, but Lang held his ground pretty well from what I remember.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 27, 2011 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Agree
I thought Lang looked better out there than those guys. But the o-line started out good in pass protection and then fell apart after a couple possessions.
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by I voted for Kodos on Aug 27, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Loving the Rodgers handle bar mustache
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by OznCoop on Aug 27, 2011 8:46 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Not entirely sure it was Burnett's fault
The first on a completely blown coverage by Morgan Burnett that resulted in a 57-yard TD by Reggie Wayne, and the second on a perfectly placed pass right over the top of the ever-so-infuriating Jarrett Bush.
It sure looked to me like Jarrett Bush had the deep coverage, but didn’t get deep enough. Tough to know without knowing what the coverage was supposed to look like. It could have been the fault of Bush, Burnett, or even Shields. Whoever blew it, though, blew it big time, and that’s what makes me think it was probably Bush. He was the closest player to Wayne.
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Uh... NO
Bush was inside faking blitz at the snap! He then was moving out to pick up the slot reciever. Shields had man coverage on Wayne and dropped him for some reason, assuming he was faked somehow, tho I don’t see how. Shields dropped Wayne, so its partly his fault and Burnett was the deep safety on that side of the field and came charging up, again to make a tackle? on the slot reciever. Burnett was supposed to stay deep. Both Shields and Burnett played that very badly, not Bush.
Can’t judge a play, just by seeing the ending, where Bush was trying to chase down Wayne at the end (which BTW showed alot of hustle). He started at the snap in Woodsons normal spot, as the slot CB faking blitz. The coverage was 2-man… Man coverage w/ 2 deep safeties. Burnett being the deep safety and Shields having man coverage on Wayne. Clearly visible if you watch replays.
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Well, it's a good thing I did watch those replays
Bush was dropping in coverage after faking a blitz, and was deeper than Burnett & Shields when the pass was thrown. Maybe Burnett being so out of position is the reason, or maybe Bush was deep because he had deep coverage.
Shields had man coverage on Wayne and dropped him for some reason, assuming he was faked somehow, tho I don’t see how.
Couldn’t have possibly been because he was supposed to have Bush help deep, huh?
Burnett was supposed to stay deep. Both Shields and Burnett played that very badly, not Bush.
YOU’RE NOT DOM CAPERS; YOU DON’T FUCKING KNOW THAT!! Bush could have had that responsibility. You say when called on it, that you use “imo”, and “I think” more than anyone else on this site, but you clearly don’t. You are presenting your opinions on the coverage as indisputable facts when they are not. And, as usual, you’re being condescending, acting as though you know more than everyone else.
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by Wiedmann on Aug 27, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Better get your eyes checked.
reply at…
http://www.nfl.com/teams/greenbaypackers/profile?team=GB
Clearly shows Bush by the slot reciever w/ Burnett charging forward from the deep safety.
Starting at the 1:26 mark. Bush is on the slot WR and Burnett charging uphill.
Not too mention that on article covering the game Burnett accept FULL responsibility!
bq. safety Morgan Burnett came charging up toward the line of scrimmage, allowing Wayne to run by him.
Certainly looked like off man coverage… Could have been a zone (But we don’t play much zone) and if it was it only exonerates Shields for dropping coverage on Wayne. But Bush being on the slot CB wouldn’t have deep responsibility after faking blitz. Thats an impossible cover for anyone! Common sense would indicate that…
I can’t help that I saw the replay clearly and you didn’t (maybe an eye appt is needed)… Go look at the replay! Its impossible for a CB faking blitz to cover the deep safety position, not to mention the replay at the time shows Burnett clearly charging the play in front of him. So yeah… NO!
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Coverages can switch
I know Bush started with the slot receiver. That doesn’t mean that was his responsibility for the duration of the play. You saw something in the play, I saw something else. There is no absolute when we don’t have all the information.
…and fuck you stroh, I have 20/15 vision. You need to stop being such a dick all the time.
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by Wiedmann on Aug 27, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
What I saw
To me, it looked like he had the slot man/underneath route all the way, but that he was also the first person to recognize that all three people broke on the slot WR (and that the ball wasn’t going to him), so he had the best jump to try and chase down Wayne
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Well
If you wouldn’t have been talking about me in all those threads where I wan’t involved, I probably wouldn’t be! Its called consequences. You talk about me when I’m not involved, and I don’t take it kindly and treat you condescendingly!
Take a look at your own fuckin behavior for a change! You’ve been better, but I still have a bone to pick! You stop being a dick and I will.
Look at the replay at the time index and its CLEAR as a bell. But don’t let that stop you from arguing. Suck it up, admit your error and drop it.
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Don't just not be a dick to me
Do it for everyone. Even opposing fans. That’s why I call you out in other places. Am I a dick to anyone else here?
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by Wiedmann on Aug 27, 2011 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don't care!
I know you are to Me. Just can’t let it go can you?! Just remember I gave you a chance to drop it and YOU chose not too. You were wrong and wouldn’t accept that I corrected you. DROP IT!!!
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You don't know what the coverage was.
You don’t know that I was wrong. Don’t let me burst your over-inflated ego.
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If Burnett flat out says he screwed up it proves you were wrong!
Everryone but you saw that Burnett came charging forward from the deep half of the field. Nickel CB’s faking the blitz don’t have deep outside coverage responsibility. Thats cpmmon sense.. But don’t let that stop you from arguing otherwise!
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From JSOnline and Burnett
In the second quarter, facing a third and 9, Painter hit a wide-open Reggie Wayne for a 57-yard touchdown. Three Green Bay defenders converged on a slot receiver, allowing Wayne to squirt free.
Safety Morgan Burnett took full blame for the play. Instead of staying in his deep half, he crept up. Lesson learned.
“That was on me all the way,” Burnett said. “I should have stayed deep in my half. It’s just a routine play. I need to really work on that. I can’t put too much thought in it. Just need to bounce back.”
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Jarrett Bush we know and loathe
From your game recap:
Despite an excellent performance through the air by Rodgers, the Packers mustered only 10 points in the first half and found themselves trailing at the half after two touchdown passes by Curtis Painter. The first on a completely blown coverage by Morgan Burnett that resulted in a 57-yard TD by Reggie Wayne, and the second on a perfectly placed pass right over the top of the ever-so-infuriating Jarrett Bush.And, from your ‘Bad’:
Jarrett Bush getting burned in man-to-man coverage by Chris Brooks for a TD: This was uglier than it sounds. Jarret simply got beaten on a corner route and Painter dropped off a perfectly placed pass over his head to Brooks.You can see what jumped out at me when I read these parts of this post.
I just don’t share in the Bush loathing (which is glaringly evident in
This was uglier than it sounds, anymore.
I have already optimisticly predicted that he will have a few Super Bowl rings by the time he retires :)
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Yeah, Matt Wilhelm has a SB ring, too
Big deal.
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by Wiedmann on Aug 28, 2011 3:18 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Someones a little mad...
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by arodgb on Aug 28, 2011 6:54 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Who's mad?
I’m actually quite happy that Bush & Wilhelm got rings last year.
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by Wiedmann on Aug 28, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Excuse me?!!!!?!?!?!??!?!?
Are you talking back to me!??!?!?!??!?!?!?? I ought to slap you, bitch!!!!!!?!?!??!!? LOL
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The planet Saturn - 7 rings
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Is arodgb gonna have to choke a *****?
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 28, 2011 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
People loathe Bush because he’s been pretty bad for us. He definitely isn’t a CB, and I don’t know if he’s capable of being a safety either. He always looks so turned around out there. He just seems like he’s got horrible awareness or something.
I know last season he was a solid special teams guy but that was the first time he was solid at anything in his career. One season of good special teams play and a nice play in the Super Bowl doesn’t overshadow his poor defensive play (which has been consistent his whole career).
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by packallday555 on Aug 28, 2011 6:58 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Totally agree about his awareness.
And he does seem to get turned around in man coverage. Thats why I think he’s best as a Safety for us. Let him face the play and keep everything in front of him.
I’m like NorthStarr, I don’t share the Bush loathing. Certainly not a good CB, OK safety IMO, and very good ST player.
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by Strohman on Aug 28, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
^This^
And, he had more than one nice play in the Super Bowl.
On defense.
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This is a reply to both you and Stroh.
@Stroh- Is he really a “very good” ST player? I honestly don’t know. The coaches made him captain of the unit and all that but how much of that has to do with him being really good vs. just having been on the unit for 4 years now? And that’s not mentioning that we had the worst ST unit in the league last season. I don’t have some vendetta against Bush or something. I just know I’ve watched him play for us for four seasons now, and after every single one I’ve always found myself wondering why he hasn’t been cut yet.
@NS- Yeah, he looked alright blitzing occasionally too. But he also got torched multiple times by Ward after he came in — and Ward had been a non-factor up until that point. I just don’t ever see him being a serviceable player on defense. He’s got the athleticism but not the awareness (or football smarts — whatever the reason is for him always looking lost out there). So too me, he’s strictly a ST guy. And imo, he’s not some end all, be all at that either.
There’s a reason fans “loathe” him. Just saying’.
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by packallday555 on Aug 30, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
It was a perfect pass,
but Bush still had a chance to break it up. He jost got lost.
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