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Recap: Green Bay Packers Defeat Bears In Chicago, 27-17

The game had a funny ending with a touchdown return by the Chicago Bears called back by a holding penalty that no one except the official saw, but the Bears didn't protest it either. Overall it was a dominant performance by the Green Bay Packers with over 100 yards more in total offense and they had the ball for 15 minutes more than the Bears.

The only notable injury was RT Bryan Bulaga who has a knee injury. I'm not sure how serious it is, but it doesn't look good. RT Marshall Newhouse played well in his place, which was better than I expected after he had an inconsistent preseason. Overall the offensive line did a great job run blocking for RB Ryan Grant (they didn't give James Starks much help for some reason) and allowed only 2 sacks and 2 quarterback hits of the game.

QB Aaron Rodgers threw his first INT of the season, but it was another great game for him with a QB rating of 111.4 and his first 3 touchdown game against the Bears. 

The run defense was a rock. Matt Forte only had 2 yards on 9 attempts. The pass defense allowed over 300 yards, but grabbed 2 INTs (plus another called back on a roughing the passer). It was a rough game for S Charlie Peprah taking over for Nick Collins. He didn't impress me this preseason either, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's feeling some pressure already to keep the starting job.

Morgan Burnett had big games against the Saints and the Panthers, and he followed them up by intercepting Jay Cutler twice. The pass rush was led by DE Jarius Wynn with 2 sacks, but I'll give him two assists. On his first sack, Bears LG Chris Williams left him unblocked. On his 2nd sack, NT B.J. Raji drove Williams into LT J'Marcus Webb, and Wynn came free untouched for the sack.

On offense, Jermichael Finley had a career game with 3 touchdown receptions and the Bears didn't have an answer for him. Greg Jennings caught nearly everything thrown his way and set a personal best with 9 receptions in the game.

They lost their regular season game in Chicago last season, so this was an accomplishment and it keeps them tied with the Lions at 3-0 for the division lead.

Poll
Who was the Packers game MVP in their 27 to 17 victory over the Bears?
Jermichael Finley
867 votes
Greg Jennings
116 votes
Jarius Wynn
29 votes
Morgan Burnett
246 votes

1258 votes | Poll has closed

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by Clutch16 on Sep 25, 2011 7:09 PM CDT reply actions  

I think the MVP was Ryan Grant

He consistently produced for us, keeping Chicago’s D on its heels. It’s nice to finally see some life out of Grant! Props to McCarthy to sticking with him, the hot hand as usual. The 4th Quarter was ugly for us though and that fluke turnover Chicago got is still irritating me. Otherwise, Marshal Newhouse impressed me again. I wasn’t at all concerned when Newhouse stepped in. I’m glad he didn’t disapoint. Hopefully Bulaga returns soon though, because we need him going forward.

One game at a time...

by Jabooty on Sep 25, 2011 7:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Over Finley?

I do see your point, though, he kept the D on its heels.

I love Donald Driver. AND RANDALL COBB!

by arodgb on Sep 25, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Because without a competent running threat, Finley likely wouldn’t have had such a big game. Either way I’m ok though.

One game at a time...

by Jabooty on Sep 26, 2011 6:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's not allowed....

to be MVP of the game here.

In Every Climb and Place....

I am an ass hat.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 25, 2011 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I want someone other than Walden.

Bonehead RTP penalty, and he gets no pass rush. I hope Zombo or So’oto returns next week, cause he sure can’t be doing much worse out there, that’s for sure.

I love Donald Driver. AND RANDALL COBB!

by arodgb on Sep 25, 2011 7:30 PM CDT reply actions  

So'oto?

He was a full; participant for the last two practices, and LP earlier in the week, yet he was inactive on game days.

Maybe the coaching staff doesn’t have as much confidence in Vic replacing Clay or switching sides as his fan club does.

It’s not like the team can’t see Walden’s production like the rest of us . . . or is it?

by GinSlinger on Sep 26, 2011 6:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

As good a point as any...

Who do you deactivate in order to make So’oto active? You certainly don’t swap Walden for So’oto on the active roster, so where do you thin your depth for the game?

In Every Climb and Place....

I am an ass hat.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 6:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Most likely Lattimore

He’s been active for special teams. Once Zombo is healthy, it will be interesting to see who is healthy.

by Shoes31 on Sep 26, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like Walden,

but I think he sometimes gets too far upfield when he’s rushing the passer. He’s effectively taking himself out of the play when this happens, and it also gives the QB an opportunity to move the pocket if he’s feeling pressure while keeping his eyes downfield. I think I saw it a few times this week.

It’s entirely possible that I’m just be overreacting to a few plays. I’d have to rewatch the games to know if this is really something Walden is doing too often. Anyone else notice this, or am I getting hung up on a couple bad plays?

by Some Guy Named Gabbo on Sep 26, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel like I read this somewhere already....

did you post this somewhere else?

In Every Climb and Place....

I am an ass hat.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

February 2

"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

"It's a great day to be great, baby!"

Skol is a four-letter word.

The Munsters of the Midway still suck!

by NorthStarr on Sep 27, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Groundhog Day

is the new deja vu, all over again. :)

"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

"It's a great day to be great, baby!"

Skol is a four-letter word.

The Munsters of the Midway still suck!

by NorthStarr on Sep 27, 2011 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

As for LVPs...

Starks win this effortlessly. 14 touches, 14 yards, and a lost fumble that instantly made the game much tenser. Gotta do better next week…

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 25, 2011 8:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Yea,

I don’t know what happened with him. That was horrible

by RaY210 on Sep 25, 2011 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

LVP indeed

Starks got to the line and repeatedly started tiptoeing around like he was looking for someone to open a door for him. I was out of the country and missed the last two weeks but read that Starks had really passed Grant in performance. Looks like they switched places. Grant had speed and decisiveness. Starks showed neither. It was weird, like he read newspaper comments about himself and decided “hey this is easy”.

by Tmad on Sep 25, 2011 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Indeed

It was like Grant and Starks literally switched roles. Starks was way too hesitant on a lot of plays, although most times there was no where to go. It was pretty clear that Chicago was gameplanning to stop him. Starks is still the better RB, but Grant was the better back today. It’s nice to see Grant showing signs of life again.

One game at a time...

by Jabooty on Sep 26, 2011 6:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is the key

for most of us Starks promotors.

Starks [is just] that much better than [Grant]. Its not like Grant [has been] sucking it up.

More simply put:
Grant is good, but Starks is better.

"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

"It's a great day to be great, baby!"

Skol is a four-letter word.

The Munsters of the Midway still suck!

by NorthStarr on Sep 27, 2011 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know...

I just have to razz you Starks supporters. I’m still a Grant supporter because…well, someone has to be or we wouldn’t have these controversies!

Go Grant! Fire Starks!

In Every Climb and Place....

by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 27, 2011 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

You sure you're not Jerry Angelo?

"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

"It's a great day to be great, baby!"

Skol is a four-letter word.

The Munsters of the Midway still suck!

by NorthStarr on Sep 27, 2011 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Shh....

don’t tell anyone.

In Every Climb and Place....

by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 27, 2011 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

arodgb your kidding right

Zombo is no better than Walden on any aspect, sure he is solid but Walden plays hand, fast and stronger than Zombo….and putting a lick on the bears qb isn’t as bonehead as your making it out to be….shake Cutler up and make him hear footsteps

Packers over the Bears, Illini over the Badgers...

by SpaceGhost34 on Sep 25, 2011 10:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

What?

You’re kidding, right? Intimidation is one thing, but hitting a qb up high when someone else has his legs well after the fact of the ball being thrown is just plain stupid.

I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!

by msc32887 on Sep 25, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm all for intimidating the QB . . .

But hitting the head just isn’t the thing to do. Besides that, I think it’s important to get those hits on the QB early in the game. You have time to recover if there’s a penalty, and it makes the QB skittish later in the game. Then, after you’ve thrown a good scare into him early in the game, you show blitz and drop back in coverage, and if he starts to get in a rhythm, then you come after him again. But not after his head.

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— Hunter S. Thompson

by I voted for Kodos on Sep 26, 2011 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

nobody is saying take a cheap hit

But don’t let up on the qb, that’s the statement….

Packers over the Bears, Illini over the Badgers...

by SpaceGhost34 on Sep 28, 2011 2:37 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

REPLY FAIL

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 25, 2011 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Zombo > Walden

I’ve said it many times. Yes, Walden is faster. However, Zombo is stronger, better against the run, and is a CONSISTENT pass rusher. We’re still waiting for Walden to duplicate his one game success against Chicago last year. Zombo is much better overall.

One game at a time...

by Jabooty on Sep 26, 2011 6:59 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree...

Zombo has shown more overall than Walden has. I would take my chances with Zombo over Walden any Sunday.

In Every Climb and Place....

I am an ass hat.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 7:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

And twice on ... oh, wait.

"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

"It's a great day to be great, baby!"

Skol is a four-letter word.

The Munsters of the Midway still suck!

by NorthStarr on Sep 27, 2011 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Walden offers pretty zero pass rush. Dude gets singled up almost every play and gets stoned almost every time. At least Zombo showed that he could take advantage of the single team and get some sacks.

Plus, Zombo is a second year player. Walden is like a 5th or 6th year guy. Chances are, Zombo improves and Walden doesn’t.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Sep 26, 2011 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Starks

In the past two weeks, Starks did all his big running from the I formation, including his 40-yarder last week. Yesterday, Grant got all the work out of the I formation, especially in the first half. Starks kept getting the ball in the shotgun, which is more of a pick your hole running play. I agree that Starks didn’t look particularly good, but he wasn’t running out of the I with Rodgers under center. I was quite please with Grant’s effort.

Nitschke never wore an earring!

by Packer Pete on Sep 26, 2011 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed. I think that played a big part in things. Seemed like he was the unlucky one who received pretty much all of the delayed hand offs which never seem to work for us.

Fire Slocum

by packallday555 on Sep 26, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice Observation

Starks really didn’t have much of a chance against Chicago. As happy feet as he appeared, the truth is, there really wasn’t anywhere for him to go.

One game at a time...

by Jabooty on Sep 27, 2011 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm happy with this game.

The run defense was awesome, the pass defense was better than the last 2 weeks. Newhouse filled in nicely, Grant looked really good, Rodgers had one of his better games against the Bears. Play calling was fairly good.
Even if it was a phantom hold on the punt it just made up for the phantom fumble recovery.

by Wisfan on Sep 25, 2011 8:52 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Same here.

Rodgers looked good today. Finley and Jennings had great games. The D seems to be coming along. Just hope the Bulaga injury isn’t serious

by RaY210 on Sep 25, 2011 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I went with Finley,

although, it was a tougher call over Burnett, in my mind, than the vote here indicates.

"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

"It's a great day to be great, baby!"

Skol is a four-letter word.

The Munsters of the Midway still suck!

by NorthStarr on Sep 25, 2011 9:07 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Aurora Borealis....

is simply the physical expression of North Starr having a deep moment of thought….

In Every Climb and Place....

I am an ass hat.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

+42

"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

"It's a great day to be great, baby!"

Skol is a four-letter word.

The Munsters of the Midway still suck!

by NorthStarr on Sep 26, 2011 1:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Same here. I thought Finley was the most clutch player and his catches were very very good athletic plays. I felt like Burnett made INTs that he had to make, they were poorly thrown passes and he was the only one that could make a ply on it for either team. He was still a HUGE playmaker but I think Finley deserves the game ball.

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by TrevorR on Sep 26, 2011 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Closing speed

on the first Burnett INT was very impressive, one of the half dozen or so moments that really made me say “yeah!”. I’ve gotten to expect the week to week awesomeness of Arod and Finley.

I did vote Finley however, and I like the case being made for Grant.

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by NorthSidePaulie on Sep 26, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bulaga's injury

is being reported as a “bruised knee” by the AP.

by wibrownguy on Sep 25, 2011 9:12 PM CDT reply actions  

This is good news

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 25, 2011 9:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I sure hope so

But I think “bruised knee” is just a euphemism for a leg injury the team doesn’t want to reveal. Remember all the bruised knees the Packers had in training camp?

by wibrownguy on Sep 25, 2011 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just happy not to hear "torn" "sprained" or "waiting an MRI"

Especially with how well Bulaga has played this year

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 25, 2011 10:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

*awaiting

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 25, 2011 10:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

euphamism i agree

That looked like a MCL to me

Packers over the Bears, Illini over the Badgers...

by SpaceGhost34 on Sep 25, 2011 10:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

What?

'All Day' is reporting on Bulaga’s injury?

"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

"It's a great day to be great, baby!"

Skol is a four-letter word.

The Munsters of the Midway still suck!

by NorthStarr on Sep 26, 2011 1:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Apparently "All Day" means 30 mins to the Vikings staff...

cause he disappears along with the rest of the offense in the second half of each game. The sad thing for them is, he’s been the one consistent on their offense and they still don’t use him.

In Every Climb and Place....

I am an ass hat.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 1:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've been noticing that since his very first game against us as a rookie.

IIRC, the nickname started right sfter that game.

"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

"It's a great day to be great, baby!"

Skol is a four-letter word.

The Munsters of the Midway still suck!

by NorthStarr on Sep 26, 2011 1:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're probably right.

I don’t follow college ball so much anymore,
and only first heard it right after that game (and
always thought it was kinda funny), so didn’t know.

"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

"It's a great day to be great, baby!"

Skol is a four-letter word.

The Munsters of the Midway still suck!

by NorthStarr on Sep 27, 2011 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

All Day Except 3rd &1 or 4th &1.

Nitschke never wore an earring!

by Packer Pete on Sep 26, 2011 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I'll believe it when I see it

What was Mike Neal’s knee injury initially reported as? A strain and he’s “day to day” Then we find out he’ll be missing a “significant amount of time” which is still to be determined. CM3 had a stress fracture and it was called a “shin injury”

When it comes to the injury report, I pretty much don’t believe a thing MM or TT say. They only do it because they have to and even then reveal as little as possible.

I do believe that it’s not an ACL. But it could be lots of other things. If that’s true it could be a month or so before we see Bulaga back.

by gern blanston on Sep 26, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Neal had surgery IIRC

Jennings, Jones, and Cobb all had knee bruises, and they weren’t out for weeks. Its really to early to get any indication on Bulaga’s health.

by Shoes31 on Sep 26, 2011 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was tremendously impressed by Green Bay's run defense today.

They shut down Forte and made the Bears a one-dimensional team. The 13 yard-rushing performance today was the worst output by a Chicago Bears team since November 25, 1956 (or 55 years ago), when they had just 12 yards in a tie in New York against the Giants.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 25, 2011 9:17 PM CDT reply actions  

YOTTO

I am too drunk to taste this chicken.

by ThroughBeingCool on Sep 25, 2011 9:35 PM CDT reply actions   4 recs

The "Phantom" holding call on the punt

Aikman and Buck aren’t always the brightest bulbs. On that punt, they weren’t even sure who the call was on, then they say “he’s not even near anybody”, but at this point in time the flag is already sitting on the field – so in all likelihood the penalty occurred well before the gunners got downfield. They only watched the second half of the play on their replay and somehow were convinced that it was a phantom call. When does holding most occur on punt returns? On the gunners as they try to make their way downfield. I guess I’m not surprised that Aikman and (especially) Buck wouldn’t think of this, but it was still disappointing.

At least Bears fans won’t blame the loss on this penalty and cite Aikman/Buck as their evidence, as you know certain fans of a certain team in our division would do.

"I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous."
— Hunter S. Thompson

by I voted for Kodos on Sep 25, 2011 9:46 PM CDT reply actions  

On the Yahoo board there is a lot of complaining about the refs.

The hold occurred just off the line of scrimmage, the confusion came because the ref didn’t actually throw the flag until the return started.

by Wisfan on Sep 25, 2011 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

you lost me at yahoo board

Joe Buck is just White Noise to me. It’s like the game is being called by a CD of whale songs. - mechanical turk

by blackoutsox on Sep 25, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Pretty much

that place is loaded with stupid.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 25, 2011 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it as bad as NFL.com "Discuss" threads?

because, aside from the copious amounts of spam, the “fans” on that site are the stupidest that I have seen. Its just a site full of illiterate, shit talking trolls.

No offense to any NFL.com posters here….I’m sure your posts get lost in the steaming piles of rabble.

In Every Climb and Place....

I am an ass hat.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 25, 2011 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've never been on the NFL.com boards, but I can tell you, from experience....

That the Yahoo boards are the biggest cesspool of idiots and vile human beings on the popular websites I’ve seen. Well, other the comments on YouTube videos. Those are the worst. But Yahoo isn’t far behind.

Look in on a popular sports thread, and it won’t take you long to find your douche-bag racists finding “creative” ways to spell the N-word, people talking about Obama, and hundreds of people complaining about the umps/refs in every game.

Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.

Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog

Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?

by Packers3485 on Sep 26, 2011 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't forget

The hatred spewed on Jewish people, Muslisms, immigrants, and homosexuals!

I don’t know if it’s called Yahoo because of all the yahoos on there, or if the yahoos were attracted to it because of the name. Chicken and the egg kind of thing, it is.

"I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous."
— Hunter S. Thompson

by I voted for Kodos on Sep 26, 2011 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

The man speaks the truth

Those boards are slightly less intelligent than your average episode of NFL Live, and have four times the vulgarity.

By the way, NFL Live on ESPN, I consider to be a very stupid program, with few if any redeeming features.

"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks

by jobe on Sep 26, 2011 1:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

you mean..

you didn’t like Teddy Bruschi spewing the Packers needed to have “workouts” during the lockout?

You can’t get football intelligence like that just anywhere..

My favorite is when they get a tv guy and a bunch of ex-players in their suits on a fake studio field..that shit is classic no matter the sport.

I love wins. Wins are good for the soul.- Barry Alvarez Sep 25, 2005

We expect to win.- Ted Thompson July 28, 2011

by White92 on Sep 26, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

The most consistently

unwatchable football breakdown segment in history: The tv guy and ex-players on the fake studio field. Absolutely horrific stuff.

"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks

by jobe on Sep 27, 2011 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bears fans on NFL.com were bitching about it...

but the fans on there are the lowest common denominator of all fans of all teams. And Chris Gates did bring it up on DN in a thread I forgot already. I responded with the video of the hold on Bush. Anything Chris Gates brings up must be responded to, especially when he’s wrong.

In Every Climb and Place....

I am an ass hat.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 25, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions   3 recs

Yeah, but you'll probably get banned there for pointing out the truth.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 26, 2011 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am hoping.....

kind of like a badge of honor. To sacrifice for the good of all SB users in trying to take down a troll.

In Every Climb and Place....

I am an ass hat.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Peprah...

Charlie got roughed up a bit today. I don’t think he is feeling pressure about his job (anymore than another player who has a rough day). He showed us last year that he is a serviceable player. He’ll step it up against Denver.
MVP=Finley. He demoralized them in the red-zone.

Life is too short to drink bad coffee...

by Jeigh AK on Sep 25, 2011 9:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree and a serviceable player is a very good back up

Peprah just needs to get back to serviceable next week, tough game for him

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 25, 2011 10:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

As we learned last year...

You can certainly win a SB w/ a sevicable Safety!

You've been Stroh'd™!!!

by Strohman on Sep 25, 2011 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can "not lose" the SB with one....

Nick Collins helped “win” the game, Charlie helped to “not lose” it. Rodgers did the winning, otherwise.

In Every Climb and Place....

I am an ass hat.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 25, 2011 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I THINK I CAN MAKE THIS OFFICIAL...

…Jay Cutler is now my all-time favorite Chicago Bears quarterback.

by HailVarsity on Sep 25, 2011 10:01 PM CDT reply actions   3 recs

Kinda lovable

Isn’t he? Like you just want to pick him up, cradle him to your chest, and feed him a candy bar.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Sep 25, 2011 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions   3 recs

I don't know about you...

…but when he threw that game-ending INT at Lambeau in 2009, I rubbed my hands greedily and said to myself: “We just may have something here!”

by HailVarsity on Sep 25, 2011 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions   4 recs

LMAO

Evil Finger Pyramid of Contemplation

Packers over the Bears, Illini over the Badgers...

by SpaceGhost34 on Sep 25, 2011 10:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Excellent

Wait, that didn’t work!

How does one do the Monty Burns font on this website?

"I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous."
— Hunter S. Thompson

by I voted for Kodos on Sep 26, 2011 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

eeexcellent...

Life is too short to drink bad coffee...

by Jeigh AK on Sep 26, 2011 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

There's a diabetes joke here

But I can’t find a tasteful way to make one. Oh well.

by osc630 on Sep 26, 2011 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Hahahah.....

I was like…. did he mean….???

In Every Climb and Place....

I am an ass hat.

by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hope you don't forget his insulin

Feeding him a candy bar may actually kill him with his diabeetus.

by stratefaced on Sep 26, 2011 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I still don't think Cutler is the problem with the Bears

There were a number of plays he did make under pretty severe pressure and was victimized by some pretty bad drops by the well-under-par Bears receivers (cough Roy Williams cough, but also Knox).

I’m not saying he’s an elite QB (he did sail some and the second pick looked like it was on him), but with a decent OL and an even average receiving corps, he’s likely to look a lot better.

OTOH I’m beginning to doubt he’s worth close to what they gave up to get him, so I do like the situation overall!

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by NorthSidePaulie on Sep 26, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good points, but...

…I still think he has a negative effect on the Bears overall. He is supposed to be a team leader. I don’t think his teammates like him. Has he elevated anyone’s play? I don’t think he’s even elevated his own, much less anyone else’s.

People correctly say that he was seriously injured in that NFC championship game. I’ll grant that. But it’s also about demeanor. He stood on the sideline all sullen and isolated, looking like this was the last place he wanted to be. Given his situation, that makes some sense. But he’s getting paid millions of dollars to do this, and his teammates are definitely paying attention. He can’t even fake enthusiasm for three hours? That’s bad (for the Bears, at least). No one wants to play for a guy like that.

The bottom line is simple: Cutler is now 1-5 as a starter against the Pack, including the NFC title game when he was injured. I really don’t think that is coincidental.

by HailVarsity on Sep 26, 2011 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

In perspective

When Lovie Smith was hired in Chicago, the Packers had
beaten the Bares seven straight, and 20 of the last 23.

Smith came in, said his main mission was to beat the
Packers, and won seven of the next 10 games in the series.

Then, they traded for Cutler, and the Packers have,
as you say, won five of six, and there is no reason, at
this time, to think that trend is going to get reversed
anytime soon.

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by NorthStarr on Sep 27, 2011 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

What is going on

with the poetic style
of posting? Baffling.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 27, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for that great post...

…and you’re right, the record before and after is really the most telling thing. One can go back and forth on this, with interesting points on both sides, but the rock-bottom fact is this: 1-5. One and FIVE.

And I agree that is unlikely to change. Assuming that both teams play their starters in December, there is every reason to think the record will go to 1-6. Personally, I don’t think last Sunday’s game was as close as the final score showed. If the Bears can lose like that in Chicago, they are gonna get righteously walloped at Lambeau.

I always had a hunch that acquiring Cutler could backfire for the Bears. Look at the prima donna act he put on in leaving Denver. Observe his post-injury demeanor during the NFC championship game. Replay his critical late-game interceptions against the Packers. For Chicago fans, he is a headache. For us, he is the gift that keeps on giving. ;-)

by HailVarsity on Sep 27, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it just me or did grant look faster than he has all year?

Also I could understand if a Bears fan was upset about the punt holding call completely but I doubt if that call isn’t made that we let them recover an onside kick and score anyway. Also that fumble was a bid call and between the camera angles it looked pretty conclusive but in defense of the officials I guess maybe thy didn’t overturn it because there was one camera angle that could conclusively overturn it by itself? You would certainly need to consider both angles at the same time to overturn so maybe there is a rule that you have to be able to overturn it with one conclusive camera angle, I don’t know. Either way great game, great win, 3-0 !

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 25, 2011 10:07 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Wasn't just you

I said the same thing during the game. It looked like he was running with speed and the determination of a man out to prove that hasn’t lost it and deserves to play. Meanwhile, Starks looked like he was trying too hard to bust the big, explosive run, and left too many yards on the field. In his defense the blocking wasn’t there on many of his runs, though.

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by I voted for Kodos on Sep 25, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah Starks seemed indecisive on a couple of runs

Which made Grant’s one-cut style look even better

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 25, 2011 10:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

He was tip-toeing in the backfield like he was Brandon Jackson's long-lost brother

Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.

Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog

Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?

by Packers3485 on Sep 25, 2011 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

here come the *Is it time to trade James Starks* threads

Packers over the Bears, Illini over the Badgers...

by SpaceGhost34 on Sep 25, 2011 10:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Would be refreshing from the....

Fire Grant ones…..

(yes I know nobody advocated firing Grant. I am being facetious)

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 25, 2011 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eh, there were plenty who had no problem with cutting him

So you’re not really being facetious when you talking about “fire Grant” threads

Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.

Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog

Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?

by Packers3485 on Sep 25, 2011 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Its just....

from the start I had a hard time with wanting to get rid of him. No doubt that overall Starks has run better, but Grant has put up great numbers and had an entire year to get fresh. Not to mention the desire to win back his job and actually get on the field after the SB. I figured he would look pretty good. Getting split carries with Starks isn’t hurting either of them either.

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 25, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

People are getting ridiculous re: the RB situation.

Taking sides… I mean, how f**ked up is that? You would think that Grant and Starks played for two different teams, the way some people talk shit around here.

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by mike_o on Sep 26, 2011 1:54 AM CDT up reply actions   3 recs

Some people want them to?

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 2:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Grant+Starks

equals awesome Packers ground game for three games now.

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by NorthSidePaulie on Sep 26, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Regarding Replay

I can’t believe they can’t sync the cameras so that you could see what happened from all different angles. Then you could stop the camera when you’ve seen something on one angle and switch to another angle and see the same moment from different angles. Doesn’t seem like it would be very difficult to do with the technology we have these days.

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by I voted for Kodos on Sep 25, 2011 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

If they could have...

…I’m certain they would have seen that the fumble recovery happened after he was out of bounds. No doubt in my mind.

by TheWalrus1971 on Sep 26, 2011 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh they can

They can easily stitch together camera angles at the exact same time to get a clear picture of whats going on. I think the problem came when the ref had to determine when Peppers had possession of the ball. The ref was unsure of when Peppers really had possession, so it becomes impossible to say if he was OOB. It still was BS though.

by Shoes31 on Sep 26, 2011 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I voted Finley because he made sure we didn't end drives with field goals

Grant played well enough to earn a spot on the voting list, as did many Raji (and of course Rodgers).

The most lovable part of this game was our ability to run and to stop the run. And seeing Cobb looking dangerous on punt returns was a nice bonus.

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by I voted for Kodos on Sep 25, 2011 10:08 PM CDT reply actions  

I really am loving the run defense!

But is it being made to look better because most teams try to throw a lot? Does it matter because it means that Rodgers is giving us a lead early? And is a good run defense nicer to have than a good pass defense?

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 25, 2011 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm a little wary of the rush defense being over-hyped

Simply because so far we’ve played teams that either aren’t good at running the football, or showed no interest in running the ball (or both). Don’t get me wrong, Forte’s a really good back. But they simply cannot run the ball this year.

Definitely looks improved though. Don’t think we’ll see too many games like last year and Michael Turner running over us in the regular season, or giving up way too many yards to chumps like Maurice Morris in the loss to the Lions.

Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.

Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog

Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?

by Packers3485 on Sep 25, 2011 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, my biggest concern in rating them highly is simply that there haven't...

been a high number of rushing attempts in any given game against them so far.

In Every Climb and Place....

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 25, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

As fast as we started against NO

They had very little choice but to get pass-happy quick. And neither CAR and CHI were interested in running. The true test of a rush D isn’t in September – it comes after October.

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by Clutch16 on Sep 26, 2011 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather have a good pass defense.

Teams won’t be running much in the 2nd half against GB…

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by Kuhl on Sep 26, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

They will be...

…in December and January

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by NorthSidePaulie on Sep 26, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

My point is

ARodg and company will be ahead of most team’s by halftime. Teams run less when they are behind in the game.

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by Kuhl on Sep 26, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

my bad

missed the “2nd half” in there

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by NorthSidePaulie on Sep 26, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Finley.

Red zone stud. Grant 2nd.

by alpo on Sep 25, 2011 10:14 PM CDT reply actions  

How could Peprah be feeling the heat?

He’s got no competition.

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by OznCoop on Sep 25, 2011 10:21 PM CDT reply actions  

we want Sharper!!

Packers over the Bears, Illini over the Badgers...

by SpaceGhost34 on Sep 25, 2011 10:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I dunno

I hear that Kevin Greene is pretty good up top too. :)

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by P-Townfan on Sep 26, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I voted for Finley, but where's Newhouse?

I want Newhouse to get really good and become a starter so I can get his jersey. I go to the Newhouse school at Syracuse and that would just be incredible.

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by nymgb44 on Sep 25, 2011 10:33 PM CDT reply actions  

I got a TJ Lang jersey while he was the backup left tackle

last year. Go get your Newhouse, rep it proudly, starter or no!

by Archibaldcrane on Sep 25, 2011 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

no kidding right

Since when was it third and pungi spikes at soldier field?

Packers over the Bears, Illini over the Badgers...

by SpaceGhost34 on Sep 25, 2011 10:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Caltrops!

They were laying freaking caltrops! That’s gotta be illegal.

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by Clutch16 on Sep 25, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Caltrops

Is that you Dr. Sarvis?

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by Jeigh AK on Sep 26, 2011 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I mean seriously!

At first I was wondering why everyone’s staring at the grass, and then… “is that… that’s a frickin’ metal spike!” I mean, if somebody had stepped on it, it was long enough to go right through a foot. Or if somebody lands on it, that’s a stab-wound 3" deep. …and if it hits a neck… Great Scott. We knew their field was bad, but that’s definitely a new low. I’ve never seen anything like that.

by Curly Lambeau on Sep 25, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

What are those for!?

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 25, 2011 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Buck and Aikman were thinking it was part of a coil, or wire, or something

Maybe something that was supposed to keep that horrible field from coming up too easily? Or maybe something to do with the heating system underneath to keep it from being frozen in the winter?

No clue, though. NFL needs to step in and FORCE the Parks Department and the Bears to change that field, or face having their home games moved away from Soldier Field.. It was bad enough when it was just painted dirt. It was bad enough when the field conditions weren’t even safe enough for the Bears to run a Family Night scrimmage. Now we have the possibility of metal spikes coming up from the field?

Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.

Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog

Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?

by Packers3485 on Sep 25, 2011 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I figured it was like a giant staple holding down the field

That got twisted when the field got a bit torn up. Either way, it’s decidedly uncool.

by osc630 on Sep 26, 2011 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol.....

“I’m sorry sir, but the thumbtacks that are holding down the turf have gotten twisted and are now a danger to all involved.”

In Every Climb and Place....

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions   3 recs

Yeah, that was pretty crazy

I’m just glad no one got injured discovering that thing. Imagine if it had gone through a ref’s foot. Yikes!

by osc630 on Sep 26, 2011 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Insane.

And they picked the week they were hosting the Packers, naturally, to unveil this slow-you-down field. Pittsburgh did this in a prime-time division game a few years back. Actually had a punt land on the field and get instantly stuck about 4 inches into the turf. Pitiful.

by TheWalrus1971 on Sep 26, 2011 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn't that the torrential rain game...

against Miami? The Carolina game today was a lot like that.

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

At least the Packers

won’t have to play there again until next season.

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but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."

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by NorthStarr on Sep 26, 2011 2:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Iseewhatyoudidthere

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by NorthSidePaulie on Sep 26, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I doubt much of anything will be done about it

Until someone gets an eye poked out. Then they’ll snap to attention.

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by I voted for Kodos on Sep 26, 2011 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Take one for the team, Bush!

j/k

That would be a truly awful and tragic thing to see considering the reason that it hasn’t been replaced seems like nothing more than a bureaucratic pissing contest.

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

On Starks

While he was dancing in the backfield like a poor Barry Sanders, I think bigger for him was the fact that he getting delayed handoffs. Now I don’t have tape to back this up but during the game it looked like every time they ran a delay it was with Starks and the power running was left to Grant. While that usually work for them, it doesn’t work against two of the smartest LBs in the game. But stop dancing back there before I have a heart-attack.

by Adin on Sep 25, 2011 11:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, naturally.

Starks is generally playing in passing formations. Which means that any running play will likely be delay, as the offense is showing pass via formation.

I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!

by msc32887 on Sep 25, 2011 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was dancing, and then trying to break everything to the outside

Instead of making the quick cut and going for it, like Grant. It was like he was trying to get the awesome, juking big play on every single carry, instead of taking what is given to him and getting the most out of it.

And like you said, going up against LBs like Urlacher and Briggs (not to mention Peppers on the line), trying to break inside runs to the outside on every single damn run is not a very smart idea……unless you like getting stuffed for no gain every time…..

Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.

Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog

Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?

by Packers3485 on Sep 26, 2011 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly

Everyone’s been complaining about Grant’s one cut style, and how he doesn’t break big runs with it. Sometimes the one cut style will be successful, and sometimes Starks’ dancing around looking for the bigger play will work. It’s why they need both of them.

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by Kuhl on Sep 26, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

This

"Hawk Harrelson: Annoying even the hearing impaired": Teahenny Penny paraphrasing Chisoxfan1473

by NorthSidePaulie on Sep 26, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Regarding Starks

I want to watch the game again and see what holes he had to run through…. because while watching, it seemed like there was no where to go. This reminds me of the debate that occured last year between the people saying Bjax was “dancing” and those saying there was simply nowhere to run through.

I’m not going to start saying Starks is the next B. Jackson.

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by Chief Oshkosh on Sep 26, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sure, but Grant actually had a hole to cut into most of them time — Starks didn’t. It seemed like he’d look to go up the middle, and then try and break it to the outside only to get chased down by Briggs.

Now, that doesn’t excuse the dancing he did but to expect much more than he did just isn’t realistic.

I think a big part of it had to do with all the delayed handoffs he got. Those work when you’ve got a DL that’s flying up field and LB’s who drop into coverage too soon. Problem was, their DL wasn’t flying up field — I was actually surprised at how much we seemed to neutralize them, and Peppers in particular. And their LB’s just aren’t going to fall for the delay too much.

Again, not trying to make an excuse for him but I’d guess that played a big part. Someone definitely needs to tell him to just run hard and fall forward, which he usually does do. I agree with kodos above that it looked like he was looking to much for the big play.

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by packallday555 on Sep 26, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Adin is correct here. In the first half, Starks kept getting the ball out of the shotgun formation while Grant was getting his carries out of the I. Starks’ best running in the first two games came from I formation plays, but he didn’t have those carries in the first half yesterday. I don’t think Starks was particularly sharp, but I’m not down on him. I was glad to see Grant look so good.

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by Packer Pete on Sep 26, 2011 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah you are right...

they run plays geared toward the player’s strengths. Grant the quick hitting, quick cutting inside running…Starks more of the slow developing runs. Most of the time, Starks was dancing because there weren’t any openings.

Nothing changes with this game. Grant’s longest run was 14 yards. He is a hard runner, consistent, but nothing spectacular. Starks shows much more homerun, open field ability (As evidenced by his 40 yard run last week). Nothing has changed really. Good to have Grant in on the sidelines if Starks gets fumble-itis or any injuries occur.

by PackFaninFL on Sep 26, 2011 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions   3 recs

The defense is steadily getting back to last year's form

Week One: 27 points allowed
Week Two: 23 Points allowed
Week Three: 17 Points allowed

Still not where it needs to be, but it’s good to know we haven’t peaked yet. Also, Troy Aikman calling our linebackers horrible in coverage is pretty eye-opening because he rarely calls out teams and players in that fashion.

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by jobe on Sep 26, 2011 1:43 AM CDT reply actions  

“he rarely calls out teams and players other than Packers in that fashion.” FTFY

He’s always seemed to have a bit of a bias against GB. More subtle than guys like Florio, (and not as rabid as Jim Mora Jr’s apparent love of all things Carolina). Every “questionable” call (in his eyes) that went the Packers way was a terrible call. Every questionable call that went the Bears way was undoubtedly the correct one. Sitting there and listening to him watch replays of the punt return that only showed the end of the kick, after the hold, and proclaiming that there clearly was no hold on the play was disgusting. They even showed a couple replays that showed the hold, and he didn’t notice even the possibility of a hold. Either he’s biased, or incredibly stupid. Or, of course, the more likely option – both.

Are our linebackers great in coverage? Certainly not. But bad enough to be getting called out as horrible…..while we’re winning our 9th game in the row? Maybe it’s just me, but I didn’t notice too many instances of the LBs sucking in coverage in this game. Seemed to me most or all the big plays usually were accompanied by Peprah or another DB blowing their assignment or losing their footing on that god-awful field.

Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.

Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog

Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?

by Packers3485 on Sep 26, 2011 2:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know...

I’ve always seen Aikman as a pretty good announcer who is pretty fair.

In Every Climb and Place....

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think he's a TERRIBLE announcer

One of the better color guys (though that isn’t saying a whole lot, given his competition). But I pick up on some minor things with him. I wonder if fans of his bigger playing-days rivals, like San Fran or the Giants/Redskins/Eagles ever get the same feeling.

Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.

Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog

Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?

by Packers3485 on Sep 26, 2011 3:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've just never seen him as that type of personality...

the kind that holds grudges or dislikes certain teams. He always seemed like a pretty nice, fair and likeable guy to me.

Actually I think that about all the former Cowboy players that now broadcast…Irvin, Sanders, Moose, etc. They all seem pretty fair to me. They actually criticize their old team a fair amount as well.

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, he is the type of guy to hold grudges

Namely, Skip Bayless. Bayless wrote a book or something 15 years ago about the Cowboys, and apparently it contained rumors that Aikman is gay, which had been floating around for years before then.. Aikman said recently that he has never run into him since then, but if he does, he still might punch him in the face. And, (15 years later) busted out the “Maybe Skip is gay” comeback!

Here’s a link to one of the stories about this.

Not that I blame him for hating Skip Bayless, as I hate him with a passion even without him publicly insinuating that I’m a homosexual. Just pointing out that, like many QBs, he holds onto grudges, hate, slights, etc……for a long time.

Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.

Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog

Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?

by Packers3485 on Sep 26, 2011 3:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah you are right...

and I don’t blame him for that either….but that’s different. That was a completely unfounded personal attack by someone out of the professional realm. I meant hold grudges team-wise, like against former foes and such. But maybe it spills over and he does there too. I may just be naive in my view of the announcers.

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's something that most great athletes have in common

To get that to that level in professional sports, you have to be ridiculously competitive. And being ridiculously competitive, you hold onto grudges, perceived slights, etc. longer than what might be rational.

Tom Brady can still be brought to tears when he talks about waiting until the sixth round to be drafted. After 3 Super Bowl rings, hundreds of millions of dollars, super model wife, being considered the best player of his generation…..the fact that he had to wait to be drafted can still bring him to tears. Aaron Rodgers is still fueled by falling to the end of the first round. And in the most extreme example, Michael Jordan holds on to every grudge he’s ever had since high school, as evidenced by his HOF speech.

I think every big-time athlete has that side of him, and I can see it in just about all of them that are on TV now. Just because they’re no longer in sports doesn’t mean they’ve lost that competitive edge, and it almost always brings along some sort of bias.

Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.

Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog

Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?

by Packers3485 on Sep 26, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, and I thought Skip Bayless was already a piece of shit for a human being...

But accusing an athlete of being a homosexual? What does that have anything to do with sports journalism?

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by mike_o on Sep 26, 2011 5:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wish Skip Bayless would crap on Colin Cowherd....

and then Cowherd would run around in circles like the rat he is, scaring Skip and they both fall down a flight of stairs together into a freshly erupted volcano.

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 5:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's too quick a death, imo.

I think the fall down a flight of stairs should lead to a pit of rusty, infected needles, ala Saw 2.

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by mike_o on Sep 26, 2011 7:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I never watched the Saw movies....

it’s dangerous to give ideas to someone who generally hates people.

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 7:13 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

I’ll admit, I just went back to watch because of the traps (the story was good, but not necessarily the way they told it). The merry-go-round shotgun… maybe I should take this to the OT thread :P

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by mike_o on Sep 26, 2011 7:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Either way....

Bayless and Cowherd in some sort of painful deathtrap contraption would be more enjoyable to watch than either of the two announcing anything.

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 7:28 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

From what I gather reading the story

It was a book or piece about the craziness that was the Jimmy Johnson Cowboys. The partying, coke whores, etc.

Not excusing him, but I guess he felt those rumors of Troy being gay fit into the whole story.

And, just to be clear, it wasn’t Skip Bayless who started these rumors. They had been around for a long time before he wrote his book (and still continue today).

Ugh…..too much effort spent “defending” Skip……must shower.

Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.

Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog

Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?

by Packers3485 on Sep 26, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

He very clearly loathes the Packers

And yet he does damn near all our games. Grr.

by osc630 on Sep 26, 2011 5:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Meh...

thats a bit conspiratorial…..(is that a word?)

its easy to spin something for or against you if you want to. I’ve never noticed it in the games I’ve seen.

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 5:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I agree

I think Aikman’s pretty fair to the point of being bland.

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by jobe on Sep 27, 2011 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think he does many of our games

Because he’s on Fox’s “best” crew and they give their better games to that crew. I doubt that he’ll be doing any VIkings games this year…

I don’t like him much, but I sure like him better than Jim Mora.

by Jurp on Sep 26, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

which is why you need satellite radio..

or the NFL app from verizon, or a transistor radio that picks up the Packer network!

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by White92 on Sep 26, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Um? Troy was with Buck fawning over us the whole playoff run last year

Yet even last year starting at the Giants game people were complaining about an Aikman bias and the only thing I heard was Buck bringing up how even if we won out we could miss the playoffs which was both true and propably pointed out by a FOX guy in the background. I don’t know why people hate fox so much but they hate the he’ll out of Buck at baseball where he is good but his color guy is Tim McCarver who makes Joe Morgan look like the Greek God of baseball knowledge, and he’s not nearly as good at football but hr’s serviceable. Then people hate Buck’s color guy in Aikman for being “biased” which I’ve never seen even towards the NFC East teams. Then people hate thier cartoons because Family Guy’s is spawning less funny spinoffs like tv shows have been doing for years and the Simpsons isn’t as funny after being on for two freaking decades. Then they hate fox news for being a little conservative when CNN is a little liberal and has to be played in every business because unions push it and MSNBC is blatantly liberal but conservative views aren’t allowed to be attended to in the mainstream at all or we all die a terrible, burning, republican death. Then fox is hated for American idol when every network is going gaga over reality shows and MTV started the reality shows with the real world and CBS made them big with survivor, CBS, not fox I repeat made reality tv big with survivor. And irregardless of everybodies undying need to hate everything fox all the time, there is no need to get all Daily Norsman because Aikman was confused about a holding call due to where the ref threw the flag and he is naturally pressed for his immediate opinion on the matter. If a Bears fan goes nuts over it point out that in a game of bad officiating (the Starks fumble recovery call and the earlier lack of PI with Woodson on Hester which thankfully turned into a first down that the Bears got anyway that we stopped them decisively after anyway so bears fans don’t spend the week botching about that) they still would have needed a lot more to go thier way to even tie it, starting with an onside kick.

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 26, 2011 7:20 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

After calling your Aikman comment very Daily Norsman-y you had a much more reasonable view down the line

In your responses. Sorry. I just hear constant complaining about him doing biased things and I never see/hear them. Anyway I’m not so sure Aikman is really biased like everyone makes him out to be

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 26, 2011 7:24 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

BIC4MOD?

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 7:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Holy shit, that is a lot of words...

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by mike_o on Sep 26, 2011 7:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah sorry. My arguments are right and my tone was written much more calmly than I felt, so there's that

But that was a little frustration turning into a long post, and I was even talking about tempering reactions in the post a little hypocratically. My bad

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 26, 2011 7:46 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

But yeah I totally agree...

something… in there…is umm… it sucks! Right? or… I mean… it’s awesome! I think?

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly!

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 26, 2011 8:09 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

As opposed to the perfectly neutral ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, etc... ?

All news networks are biased… only question is, which direction?

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by mike_o on Sep 26, 2011 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't say anything about those networks.

Just pointed out that Fox is not a little conservative.

by Wisfan on Sep 26, 2011 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Particularly...
Record with Cutler against Rodgers: 1-5

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 7:28 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Playoff record against Packers: 0-1

:-D

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 26, 2011 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions   4 recs

Gotta rec this!

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by NorthSidePaulie on Sep 26, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

WHOOP!

There it is…

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by Shamalamadingdong on Sep 26, 2011 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

So he was 6-3 against Favre...

With a combination of Orton, Grossman, etc.

Just goes to show you that TT made the right decision and the Bears should never have traded away Orton and their entire draft for Cutler.

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by Kuhl on Sep 26, 2011 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cutler just doesn't fuck it and chuck it like his predecessor.

I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!

by msc32887 on Sep 26, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather have Orton, 2 1st round draft picks, and 1 3rd round pick

then Jay Cutler….

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by Kuhl on Sep 26, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

But Angelo would have had two first round busts, a third round bust

and Chicago fans would still be screaming for Orton to be benched.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 26, 2011 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point.

I guess I was assuming an average GM…

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by Kuhl on Sep 26, 2011 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or an average fanbase.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 27, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope people lay off the Grant hating...

One good cut is good enough for me.

Furthermore is it just me or does Jay Cutler look more like the guy in the fasteners department at Ace hardware rather than an NFL quarterback?

by ThaiPackersfan on Sep 26, 2011 3:48 AM CDT reply actions  

what in the world

happened on that last punt? How in the world did NO ONE on our team know where the punt was going?? That was embarrassing!!!!

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by TrevorR on Sep 26, 2011 7:52 AM CDT reply actions  

This is proof....

that even Slocum covers his eyes when the ball is kicked? Or else he might have tried to direct his team……

I mean, how embarrassed would you be if you were the ST coach and your entire team ran the wrong way?

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Slocum

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 26, 2011 8:09 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I would've thought that the ST would know where Masthay was going to kick the ball

You know, in the huddle, where Masthay would say something like “OK guys, this time I’m going to punt toward the left sideline.”

by Jurp on Sep 26, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

but what is the coverage team supposed to do?

Sure called left in the huddle, but the bears all went to the right. Is the coverage team supposed to go, “Well that’s impossible! The punt was supposed to go to the left. Of course the bears are just confused about where the ball is headed. A punter would never miss kick a ball.” And it’s not like the coverage team runs down the field with their eyes upwards. Though apparently, a glance or two upwards at the ball would help! And now at the cost of a step or two running down the field. A vicious cycle!

by Glenn'sYank13 on Sep 26, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Slocum takes the George Costanza approach to coaching.

“Okay, my instincts have always failed me in the past, time to do the opposite!” This would work exceptionally except he tells the players to do the same thing.

I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!

by msc32887 on Sep 26, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know

I wonder how much all special teams coverage units rely on cues from the returner and his blockers to determine where a punt is actually going. I am sure the punter tells the team where he plans to kick it, but if all signs point to the opposite side they go with it. I think it’s a genius play by Chicago, and obviously works better with Hester back there because coverage units are so skittish about him breaking one.

by Ben T on Sep 26, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Returners "fake out" the coverage all the time....

they are always pretending like the ball is falling to them as it lands 10 yds behind them and into the end zone, etc.

Gotta have some awareness of where the ball is.

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here are some stills of the holding penalty on Knox's punt return.

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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 26, 2011 8:23 AM CDT reply actions  

It was definitely a hold...

…but it won’t assuage the “True Believer” Bear fan who thinks the NFL wants to protect the Packers, or something.

I’m amazed at how often the refs get things right even though things move at lightning speed. There are 22 players to watch over every single play, so many moving parts. Every fan thinks the refs are incompetent when I’ve always felt it was the opposite. Including last year — I was one of the few Packer fans who thought we deserved most, if not all 17 penalties against us in that Bears game (including Burnett’s boneheaded PI penalty at the end).

by PackFaninFL on Sep 26, 2011 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions   3 recs

Yeah...

I often feel bad for the criticism they get. Even when watching one or two players on a quick play to the end zone or something they need to watch everyone’s hands, ball control, and foot placement in a fraction of a second. I’m usually amazed at how they get it right most of the time.

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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 26, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jarrett Bush, helping the Packers win another game :)

by Jurp on Sep 26, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why are people surprised about Grant?

The man simply has the Bears’ number and you could tell the team knew it, going into that game. The Bears just do not have an answer for that kind of downhll running style, as evidenced by their inability to contain Turner in the Atlanta game. And let’s not forget 2009 when Grant chewed them up pretty well!

The problem with Starks yesterday was his delay. He kept waiting to find a hole and instead what kept happening was that it gave the Bears a chance to close in with the extra defender. I think that’s something he and the team will have corrected by their next meeting. I think he and Grant are pretty even on talent, but Grant just has that extra bit of skill in that particular kind of running attack.

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by AdamA on Sep 26, 2011 9:34 AM CDT reply actions   3 recs

as stated above

many of Starks’s runs came from the shutgun where he has no choice but to dance and look for a hole develop. But yes, Grant’s cutback running is his bread and butter and that always seems to hurt the bears. I was even expecting a few more long runs by Grant as he has made so many in the past against that defense.

by Glenn'sYank13 on Sep 26, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

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