Recap: Green Bay Packers Hold On To Beat The Saints, 42-34
by Brandon on Sep 8, 2011 11:22 PM CDT
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It was a shootout, and it's probably fitting that the Green Bay Packers victory over the Saints came down to the final play. With no time left on the clock after a defensive penalty in the end zone and the ball on the Packers one yard line, they stuffed RB Mark Ingram for no gain. Game over.
Obviously several things didn't go right if the Saints managed to score 34 points. Saints RB Darren Sproles had a huge game with 57 yard kickoff return that led to a touchdown, and a 72 yard punt return for another touchdown. The cornerbacks let the Saints receivers get past them when they had no deep safety help for touchdown passes of 29 and 31 yards, respectively.
On an injury note, it looks like CB Tramon Williams left the game holding his right arm and it could be serious.
In the end, the good outweighed the bad. The Packers defensive line, primarily NT B.J. Raji and DE Jarius Wynn, but also a great goal line push by DE Ryan Pickett at the end of the game, forced the Saints to settle for field goals, and helped them stop a 4th down conversion attempt at the Packers 6 yard line (and on the game ending play too).
The special teams unit had one shining moment, a 108 yard kickoff return for a touchdown by WR Randall Cobb, but this was the offense's night.
QB Aaron Rodgers was nearly perfect going 27 of 35 for 312 yards and 3 TD passes. He completed passes to nine different receivers, and targeted WR Greg Jennings and WR Jordy Nelson 8 times each. They finished the game as their top two receivers. After a big first half from Cobb and TE Jermichael Finley on offense, both players were quiet in the second. They barely ran the ball in the first half, but they ran it strong in the second behind RB Ryan Grant (and mostly RB James Starks). Although FB John Kuhn only had two carries, one went for a first down and the other for a touchdown. Maybe the most important stat of the night was zero turnovers.
The offensive line had a great game too, as Saints NT Shaun Rogers looked done and NT Aubrayo Franklin appeared as if his injured knee is still bothering him. They pushed the Saints defensive line around, and LG T.J. Lang, C Scott Wells, and RT Josh Sitton all did a great job at pursuing into the second level to take out a second defender or a linebacker. The final tally gave the Saints 2 sacks and 5 QB hits, but Rodgers's protection was very good for most of the game and they gave he had time to throw.
For more on this game from the Saints perspective, check out Canal Street Chronicles.
Also, A Sea Of Blue on Cobb's first two professional touchdowns.
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great win
offense looked great, Cobb is electrifying. hoping Tramon is okay, Drew Brees is a great QB, he was gonna get his, not worried about the D other than the poor tackling, which will be corrected. Wynn and Raji were beasts all night. Really wish MM would use the run more, especially with Starks when it’s second and short. overall, can’t be mad, great win against one of the best teams in the NFL
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by ThroughBeingCool on Sep 8, 2011 11:25 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
Love how you GIF'd the angrybelt that capped a long drive that started
With the Abraham mock belt. Glad Anericas Game touched on it and great that people remembered it. Happy that we started 1-0 vs a great team like the Saints and Go Pack Go
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 9, 2011 12:03 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Great game!
I just hope that Tramon Williams injury isn’t serious. From a distance, it looked like a potential break around the elbow joint or a hyperextension. He’ll miss some time if that is the case.
Packers.com article has it as a shoulder....
which is what I’ve heard from other places…
no word on severity
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Love the belt
I saw Graham put the belt on after the Saints scored their last TD, and I knew they weren’t going to get any more points then. You do not mock Rodgers!
Cobb was electric
That kickoff return where he was damn near down at the 30…. oh man, that was a hell of a move to keep it going and go all the way. I am excited to see more of what this kid can do. Defense looked vanilla though… but then again, we were playing against a hell of a team in the Saints. We’ll see how better they fare against the Panthers. But man, that Cobb has some moves and I can’t wait to see how the Pack use him more.
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The defense may have looked shaky,
But come on, let’s be honest. Not many teams have the kind of offense New Orleans has. Even though the defense was sloppy, the final story from tonight was this:
The Packers won and are 1-0 this season.
It’s great to have that first win before anyone else plays.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 8, 2011 11:36 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
I just hope Tramon is going to be ok. He looked like he was in quite a bit of pain.
I already told you! I deal with the god damn receivers so the linebackers don’t have to! I have coverage skills; I’m good at covering people! Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?!
I felt the Pack's front 7 was a mixed bag
-They were fantastic in short yardage situations coming up with many key stuffs. But there were quite a few nice runs by the Saints and I was severely disappointed by the pass rush. I remember 2 of their 3 sacks being more coverage sacks than anything else.
-Offense is looking insanely dangerous. For goodness sakes James Jones could be considered a fifth option!
-Instead of throwing out the special teams playbook in the trash we need to throw Slocum out. Special teams hasn’t changed a bit. I’ll give him a pass with such a weird offseason but Masthay sucked today and our coverage was just as bad. Fix it fix it fix it.
I'm not sure Masthay sucked
The first punt I would put more on Brad Jones slipping and a hold on Jarrett Bush not being called than I would put on Masthay. The next two I thought were decent punts considering he was basically just kicking it out of bounds to keep from having Sproles (who’s pretty electric in his own right) get another try…..directional kicking isn’t really easy just ask the Giants punter last year.
Finally I have a hard time calling for Slocum’s head the night we have our first KR for a touchdown in about 15 years. Maybe next week, but tonight he’s earned his salt.
by PackApologist on Sep 8, 2011 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I still give Cobb the credit for keeping his balance on that....
and he likely was told to not even bring it out from there…
but fair enough. Its a scratch…. UNTIL NEXT WEEK SLOCUM!
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 8, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the KO TD
Was more a function of Cobb than coverage as he should’ve went down but outstanding balance and Kuhn helped him. And I only really disliked two of Masthay’s punts so I guess sucked was too harsh word.
Obviously, one week is too quick to judge and Sproles is an elite returner but damn its frustrating to see these return over and over again.
I though Masthay did pretty well
If not for Jarrett Bush sliding into the end zone, one of his punts should have been downed at the 1-yd line. As others have said, he was trying to keep it away from Sproles after the first return.
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Was down at the 1
The replay showed possession, knee, AND elbow down at the 1. That was a bad call that should have at least been reviewed. If they review it and still say touchback, fine we go on with the game. But you have to at least look at it from the booth.
That's not the rule...
As a coverage player catching a punt, you need to stay out of the endzone. Doesn’t matter if you’re knee goes down. That’s why so many gunners throw the ball out in that situation to keep from going into the endzone with it.
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by Kuhl on Sep 9, 2011 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Masthay didn't suck
Way to overreact. His last punt was great, the field was just slippery. If bush doesn’t slip, the ball is at the one, you cant ask for any better. The punt that was returned for the TD was not his fault, the coverage unit messed up their. In fact, he only had one bad punt, the line drive.
Gotta go with ARod...
as much as I loved Cobb’s play.
Rodgers was consistently good the entire game keeping the Saints behind.
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 8, 2011 11:38 PM CDT reply actions
Agreed.
Every time the Saints closed, Rodgers answered with another touchdown drive.
This was especially big when the Saints failed on that fourth-and-1 at the Packers’ seven-yard-line.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 8, 2011 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Running game did well when called upon for the most part
but we’re going to need it more as the year goes along. Eventually, we’re not going to end up in the win column for games like these ones, and it’s going to sting.
This offense wowed me. Rodgers was excellent tonight; once he took the sack from Casillas, it was like a gear turned on and Rodgers started dicing New Orleans’s like a masterful chef.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 8, 2011 11:41 PM CDT reply actions
I think it did for both teams (running game looked good)...
but I think both defenses also focuses on the passing game from the start.
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 8, 2011 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
focused*
proper tense….
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 8, 2011 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I was honestly thrilled with the running game.
Both Grant and Starks looked sharp. I feel confident that if a team does successfully adjust their gameplan to stop the pass (i.e., Detroit last year), we’ll still be able to win due to the run game.
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Yeah, based on YPC it looked like a great two headed attack
Atleast from what I saw during he game, I haven’t looked over the final stats but if be surprised if they changed much
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 9, 2011 12:11 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Williams injury could be bad
On the tape, it looked like it was possibly a ligament injury in the elbow, a broken arm, or something in the hand.
I hope it’s not serious. We can’t be the same defense with him out.
and will everyone STOP HATING ON BUSH. He played very well today.
He did make a nice play to break up a pass in the endzone
But he is still a sub-par pass defender.
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by GMan83201 on Sep 8, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
shoulder injury
which range from 1-2 weeks to a full season
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are we sure it's a shoulder injury?
it kind of seemed like he dislocated his elbow from what i saw (watched in a bar though haven’t seen replays yet)
by shutupdrogba on Sep 9, 2011 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions
It looked like he was pointing to his shoulder when the trainers were on the field.
but we’ll just have to wait and see what the MM says.
This is what I've heard via Twitter.
Tramon Williams has a shoulder injury, his return is questionable … official word from press box.
The injury happened as Williams collided with safety Nick Collins and initially appeared to be an hyper-extension. However, the “Concussion Blog” and injury expert, Will Carroll cleared up any confusion.
Williams MOI looked like anterior sublux or humerous injury with possible elbow mcl involvement
Say 1 to 2 weeks to heal maybe?
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at least we play the panthers next week
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by juggernaut400 on Sep 9, 2011 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Hopefully we get the Bears luck from last year
That is, that just like Cutler’s concussion, it’s a minor injury, and the only game he has to miss is the one against the Panthers :P
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I had a tough time choosing between Rodgers and Cobb
Cobb had some pretty highlights tonight….but Rodgers just moved the ball so damn well I had to give him the nod. Overall I don’t know how the offense could look much better apart from couple of bad plays here and there.
We could be in for a very special season if they can keep this up.
This is one of those games where I wouldn't read too much into our shortcomings
Sure, this team isn’t perfect, but the Saints could very well be the best team in the NFL. They will make a lot of team look worse on defense than they made us look. And we beat them. This is a matchup that I am just happy to win.
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See I was generally happy with the defense
They were able to produce a turnover, make key stops, and get okay pressure on Brees. All in all that’s not too bad when going up against one of the best offenses in the Conference if not the league.
by PackApologist on Sep 8, 2011 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
FTFY
the Saints could very well be the best team of the other 31 in the NFL.
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by NorthStarr on Sep 9, 2011 3:33 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Prevent offense.......
is worse than prevent defense. That last drive was unforgivable
After Further Review.........
The Bears Still Suck
I didn't mind...
the run and run to get to 2:00….
but that 3rd Down play was bad….. could have run for 0 and accomplished the same.
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 8, 2011 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
This
an effective four minute drill isn’t a prevent offense, it’s smart football. The biggest problem on that last play was poor execution. They needed more than no gain. Get a yard or two at least so it’s fourth and shorter. Hell, running a playaction in that situation is actually pretty damn agressive if you think about it really.
Also, that would of been a fine drive if the refs had decided against making every call go against the Packers in the last two minutes. That touchback call was iffy and that PI on Hawk was insane. I’m not trying to turn into a DN’er here, but those were some pretty bad calls. At least we overcame them and sealed away a victory. Good game and great stuff to build on.
by PackApologist on Sep 8, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I get the whole 4 minute offense thing...
But the whole concept of running out the clock does not fit this team. They can score at will throughout the game but they have to hand the ball off with no creativity three times just so they can burn 100 seconds? Their regular drives chew up way more clock.
After Further Review.........
The Bears Still Suck
by smackwaterjack on Sep 9, 2011 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Risk/reward
The running the ball to win is not just to wind down the clock…it also prevents a huge turn over (assuming the runner holds on to the ball, but even then you don’t have a speedy DB with a full head of steam now running the other way) which would bring a moment shift as well as great field position.
I even disagree that this offense is built to score at will. I would say that this offense is built to impose its will, and to do that effectively it needs to be able to bruise a team and close out wins in this fashion. After all, look at what happens to the Packers offense when they aren’t able to pass. When a team like the Bears are disciplined enough in their zones and have enough pass rush with the front four in order to pretty much shut down the high powered attack. The offense sputters and we have to just hold on for these close wins.
The best way to get through that? A power running game and effective four minute drills. It keeps defenses honest and allows your team to play any style of ball needed.
by PackApologist on Sep 9, 2011 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Poor play call
The pass to Kuhn on 3rd and 4 was a poor play call all around. Look, you’re playing to win the game. A first down clinches the victory. On third and four in that situation, EVERY team in the league is going to pass. Lining up in the I formation, a running formation, didn’t fool the Saints. They knew a pass was coming. Rodgers had been lighting up the Saints D all night. McCarthy should have put in four wide, one back, Rodgers in the shotgun and had Rodgers make the safe short throw to an open receiver. High percentage play that would have won the game then and there. I love McCarthy as a play caller, but that was a poor formation and play call for that situation.
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by Packer Pete on Sep 9, 2011 7:11 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not a play call issue
The problem was execution. I’m sure McCarthy didn’t make that call expecting Rodgers to throw a bad pass to the FB 4 yds short of the first down…
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by Kuhl on Sep 9, 2011 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The problem was Rodgers only had 3 targets on the play. So, yeah, if the Saints expected pass there then it was a bad play call imo. We had gashed them all night long out of the shotgun, so why not go to that?
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by packallday555 on Sep 9, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
the pi was an awful call.
Totally inexcusable. The touchback may have been right, tough to say.
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The rule seems vague on when the play is dead on a punt. I know you can’t continue into the endzone with the ball, but when the knee is down shouldn’t the play be dead? Does the guy have to freeze with the ball?
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Sep 9, 2011 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Announcers said if you slide into the end zone its still a touchback....
I think it ended up being the right call according to the rules…
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeh even if I disagree, the announcers made it clear that the touchback fit the written rule
But he PI was pathetic, nothing short of it, just inexcusably bad upon awful
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 9, 2011 12:15 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm sure it looked right from the angle it was called....
and no other referee was able to convince otherwise….
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions
True, bad HD replays
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 9, 2011 12:26 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
True, bad HD replays make anyone a genius
But the replay makes the PI call look inexcusable
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 9, 2011 12:26 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
*and HD replays
Autocorrect fail
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 9, 2011 12:27 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Something I read about 40 years ago,
to the effect that the rule addresses what put the impetus on the ball, which, in this case, is the punt.
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Agreed.
Sometimes it falls your way, sometimes it doesn’t. Still pretty upset about that PI call, though. That was an incredible play by Hawk.
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by msc32887 on Sep 9, 2011 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
They'll get some egregious call back at some point this year....
it all evens out.
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Unless
it’s some kind of a conspiracy by Goodell, the NFL and the refs to keep the Packers down. :)
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Hawk's PI was one of the greatest examples of coverage I've seen in a long time.
He jumped over the guy and deflected the ball without making contact with Sproles first. It’s a travesty that he doesn’t get credit for that play ending the game.
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by Kuhl on Sep 9, 2011 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
.....
the last offensive drive in philadelphia……the last offensive drive in Chicago………. We had 14 point leads in every single postseason game last year and three of the games came down to a game ending defensive stand. I can’t argue with the results, obviously…..but they narrowly avoided historic comebacks in philly, chicago, and north texas. Obviously I can’t ask for any more from the offense as a whole for this game, but they got the ball on the 45 on that last drive, you gotta do something more than what they did
After Further Review.........
The Bears Still Suck
by smackwaterjack on Sep 8, 2011 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
AJ's PI call at the end was a joke
He landed on top of the guy…. after he knocked the ball out of the air. That was a joke. Sproels is like 5’5", was crouching to catch the ball, and AJ showed his athleticism, and should never have been called for Pass Interference.
by Nels Winkler on Sep 8, 2011 11:51 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Ya think that was total balls?
Yeah, that call was total BS, but I think the Jarrett Bush punt down with a minute and change to go was worse… touchback my a$$, the guy hustled and corralled it at the 1 yard line. Oh, and Bush gets props for the sack on Brees and the big time pass deflection he had in the end zone in the 3rd quarter. Can’t totally hate on him tonight.
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On the Bush touchback
Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I think touchback was the right call there.
If you’re on your feet when you catch the ball and your momentum causes you to put your foot on the goalline, I’m pretty sure they call that a touchback. That’s why you see teammates holding on to a player if he looks like he might go forward into the endzone
In this case, he was on the ground when he caught it, and his momentum caused his foot to hit the endzone after the catch.
Tough call, but I think it was probably the right one. Could have definitely used a review to get some help on the rulebook from the replay officials though…..
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Yeah i think I certainly disagree with the lack of review far more than the final ruling on that play
Inside 2 minutes and they couldn’t rem look at it? Stupid.
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 9, 2011 12:18 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That why I think they knew the rule from the start...
that even if you’re down and yourm momentum carries you in afterwards, its a TB. Otherwise, it was so close they would have looked it over. The grass kicked up in the endzone showed he touched inside the endzone, and I think they knew at that point that it was a TB.
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions
you see people in the endzone all the time who stop the ball at the one yard line with their hands
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No offense, but I'm pretty sure you're wrong
Every time I’ve seen someone catch a punt while momentum is carrying them to the goal-line, I’ve seen them toss it back behind them, so someone can get control of it without going into the endzone. If they don’t look like they’re coming to a complete stop before the goal-line, they toss it.
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/Leaves in a huff
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Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?
I've seen that in many games also
Hence why I was mad about it. We won, sure, it’s all well and good, but that punt downed at the 1 might have taken some of the wind out of the Saints’ sails there.
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I think you misunderstood my post
I was saying I agreed with the touchback call, because to me, it seemed like the same situation where guys toss the ball over their heads before touching the goalline…..that since Bush hadn’t come to a stop, he either had to keep himself from crossing the plane, or toss the ball away before he did.
I don’t think the fact that he was on the ground matters, since it’s not like he was down by contact. So, when his momentum carried his leg into the endzone, it should be a touchback.
Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.
Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog
Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?
Yeah, I think so
I was thinking of the slide and Jarrett’s feet going out of bounds when his knee was down beforehand. Too many Sam Adams to really get into it.
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If only he could have kept his toe from grazing inside the endzone...
and letting that grass kick up…..
it would have been a beautiful play. Great effort anyway, can’t fault Bush at all. Overall I thought he had a pretty damn fine game! Even on defense!
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions
agree
We need more consistent play calling. Bush established himself in bounds and made the catch. Why is this suddenly different from a WR trying to keep a ball in-bounds? I get the call based on current rules, but those rules are dated. Same call for same play; in-bounds catch is an in-bounds catch.
by CourtesyLaughs on Sep 9, 2011 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Also, wow, Bush had an incredible game. I’m used to bashing the guy but… damn. He put work in tonight.
by CourtesyLaughs on Sep 9, 2011 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Because its not a catch...
its a “downed punt” which is done by the “defense” on the play. In that regard, the benefit of the doubt goes to the “offense” or receiving team.
Just like if a defender hits it at the 1 before it goes into the endzone, and it rolls to the 10. The offense gets it at the 10, not the 1 where the defender first hit it. In this case, he got it at the one, then went into the endzone, giving the “offense” a touchback.
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions
That being said....
I don’t necessarily disagree that the rule should make the ball dead once the defender catches it like any other player on offense.
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 1:35 AM CDT up reply actions
A.J. made a good play
And also, from what I saw, I didn’t think Des Bishop was very good tonight.
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Poor tackling for sure by Des
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 1:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Considering it was first game with almost no preseason, I’ll let the sloppy D slide.what an exciting nail biter…imagine what it will be like when our opponent isn’t a top notch squad.
The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010
Ya mean like
next week vs. the Panthers? I want CMIII and Raji to give Fig Newton a slice of humble pie to chow down on with a side dish of Bank of America turf after getting smashed into it a few times.
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by P-Townfan on Sep 9, 2011 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Like,,,
The Carolina Panthers?
Michael Jordan - 6 rings
Kobe Bryant - 5 rings
The planet Saturn - 7 rings
Lebron James - a headband
I love Donald Driver. AND RANDALL COBB!
Schedule making me feel like last year really fast
Eagles → Bills
Saints → Panthers
2-0
Amnesia?
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 9, 2011 12:20 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
2010 -→ Week 3 at Chicago
2011 -→ Week 3 at Chicago
After Further Review.........
The Bears Still Suck
by smackwaterjack on Sep 9, 2011 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions
2011 Feb game...
2012 Feb game?
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Next week's opponent isn't top-notch.
Carolina Panthers.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 9, 2011 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions
LOL. Your sig has me cracking up.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Sep 9, 2011 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions
hahaha thats great
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Regarding Tramon's injury
Although it’s still too early to know its extent, our next two week’s opponents are the Panthers and Bears. Both those offenses will be abominations so we should be able to survive his absence. (And no matter what Bears fans think, adding Roy Williams and a year under Martz doesn’t vault a 30th ranked offense into top 10 territory lol).
If he's not back by the bears game, it's gonna be tough.
They’re doing their best to beef up their WR corps. Never gonna be up to par with our top 5, who all would start on 20 or so teams in the NFL, including the bears. However, they are fast, not RW, but Hester and Knox are blazers. Knox is their best DB, and if TW doesn’t come back by that game, look for loads of 3 and 4 WR sets to bring our weaker DBs into the game (i’m looking at you lee and bush) and try to exploit them.
Hopefully house will come back by than.
Don’t count us 16-0 on one game alone. I know the bears are the bears, and we love to hate them, but the Brewers expected to walk over STL these past 6 games, and they found out that they are still in a dogfight.
by Nels Winkler on Sep 9, 2011 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions
ESPN
follow up on Tramon
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 3:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah they are
Go cards(baseball)!
Seriously though, if the Brewers go .500 the Cards have to be undefeated. There’s still a chance, and I would love it, but it would have to be pretty epic
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 9, 2011 7:18 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Cardinals right now have a better shot at the Wild Card
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
good news is that Bears and Queens get Falcons and Chargers respectively...
this weekend.
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Could [should] be a case of
the Packers and Falcons helping each other out of the gate. :)
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Could be....
Lions get Bucs too….all tough games for our division.
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 4:03 AM CDT up reply actions
One of the great games I have seen in the NFL
in Week 1, it reminded me of the Dolphins-Pats season opener from 1994 (when Dan Marino came off of his really terrible injury), I was honored to see two classy teams fight until the end and congrats on the Packers for winning. My Broncos have to come the first weekend of October, I hope we’re up to the task, but we shall see! Bob Costas said this was the first season opener in NFL history where both quarterbacks tossed for at least 300 yards and three touchdowns, with no interceptions, completely epic!
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by the new Bradfather on Sep 9, 2011 12:20 AM CDT reply actions
I'm gonna be at that game!!!
My first trip to Lambeau!!!! I can’t wait. October 2nd. EPIC
by Nels Winkler on Sep 9, 2011 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions
You are going to love it!!
Jerry can keep his Taj Football. There is absolutely NO better place to watch a game than Lambeau!
With all due respect GO BRONCOS
wish us good luck because we need it to beat you guys, don’t kick the ball to Randall Cobb, if we learn ANYTHING from film….
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by the new Bradfather on Sep 9, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow!
That IS cool!
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions
walden
he played very well. most satisfied. Aaron mvp though
Life is too short to drink bad coffee...
I did like Walden's play today....
Also….. didn’t see any egregious drops today…
Bennett an upgrade at WR coach?
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought Sam Shields may have been our best defensive back tonight
Edgar must have done a pretty good job coaching up all the receivers that impressed that didn’t make the team (Diondre Borel, Chastin West).
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
I don't know about Shields...
he did alright. I liked Woodson today. The only boneheaded thing he did was punch someone, but he didn’t give up anything big that I saw.
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 1:37 AM CDT up reply actions
None of the d-backs were great tonight
but I counted one or two plays with absolute blanket coverage tonight. Tramon had some plays but was beaten on the TD to make it 14-7. Collins made a huge play with the forced fumble and essentially breaking the Saint’s serve, but that was it for him on the night.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
Tramon had some plays but was beaten on the TD to make it 14-7
I still kinda wonder if something wasn’t blown there coverage-wise. Seems odd, but maybe it was intended for him to be 1 on 1. In that case, it looks like he guessed outside, and receiver went inside.
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Nick Collins went up to stop the run
Leaving Tramon alone deep, I feel Collins blew that by not focusing on pass first, keeping everything in front of him. It also seemed to me like Collins was trying to call a timeout since I saw his hands go together right before the snap but I might be wrong.
I saw that too!
Figured it was just some audible call….but usually they don’t make them look like Timeout signals.
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Only knock on Walden...
He doesn’t need to be dropped into pass coverage so much.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Sep 9, 2011 2:02 AM CDT up reply actions
but wow on that one pass break up....
nice job laying out and tipping that away.
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 2:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Dude, the defense is gonna be so pissed next week
and their gonna take it out on Cam Newton.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
Ok, who was responsible for posting the comment that rounded that off at 1850?
Hmmm? WHO WAS IT!?!?!
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions
"Who told you to put the balm on?"
“Did I tell you to put the balm on?? I didn’t tell you to put the balm on!”
by mike_o on Sep 9, 2011 1:41 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
SERENITY NOW!
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 9, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
what a game
I was pretty pessimistic about this game all week. hell, all offseason since the league office announced the schedules. The Packers have one of the best defenses in the league, but it’s the offense that really dominates and wins games. As good as the Pack D is, the Saints did manage to put 34 up on the board. Not too shabby. I think every other team’s defensive coordinator crapped their pants tonight watching what these two teams can do on offense. Rodgers and Brees were both just ridiculous with the accuracy on some of their passes.
RE: the PI call on A. J. at the end of the game. I know Packers fans hate to see flags thrown on their guys just like everyone else does, but seriously folks, Hawk jumped on Sproles’ back before the ball got there. It’s a no brainer. The thing is, it was exactly the right play for him to make, because it prevented what would have otherwise been a TD.
A lot of folks have predicted the Packers and Saints in the NFCCG. I don’t know if I could stand another game like this – I don’t think my heart could take it!
Great win tonight guys. If the Saints do see the Packers again in the post-season, I can only hope it’s on our turf!
I sure hope Tramon is ok. I thought his arm was broken as soon as it happened. Then the way he held it going off the field made me think the same thing. Let’s all hope he’s ok. I also hope Colston is ok. I don’t know if anyone noticed it, but on the diving catch he made on that last drive, he came up grabbing at his shoulder/collar bone. These two teams both demonstrated they are the class of the NFC tonight, and it would suck to start racking up injuries this early.
Good luck this year cheeseheads….. not that you’ll need it, but we’ll see what we can do about those dirty bears next week.
by HB-NOLA on Sep 9, 2011 2:00 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Wrong on the PI call
If you watch the replay, Hawk doesn’t touch Sproles until he deflects the ball. Once the ball is deflected, there is no PI.
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by Kuhl on Sep 9, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
All the replays I've seen of that play....
have the analysts saying it was the right call. Usually they will say if a call is not good after the fact but nobody seems to think that was a bad call…..
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
one other thing
All you guys voting for Cobb as tonight’s MVP are nuts. Yeah, he had some fantastic highlight reel stuff, but Rodgers was flat out the (second) best player on the field. (Allow me to gush on my own 400+ yard QB….)
Lol...
fair enough. I think both teams are very lucky with the QBs they have right now. Neither one of them looks like there was any offseason to speak of!
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 2:26 AM CDT up reply actions
From ESPN...
In his New Orleans debut, Darren Sproles registered 76 yards on kickoff returns, 75 on receptions and 92 on punt returns, including a 72-yard TD. His 250 all-purpose yards were the eighth-best single-game total ever by a Saints player.
Not a bad trade-off for Reggie Bush!
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 2:59 AM CDT reply actions
Holy balls
Those guys are good. I’m glad we got the W and we won’t have to se them again for months, if at all.
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Now this is how you kick off the NFL season
I dont think you guys can harp on either defense too much b.c thats just what the NFC has turned into, a track race.
p.s. Mark Ingram did not put the team on his back doe
by theaction on Sep 9, 2011 6:26 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Sure he did.
He just couldn’t get past the line of scrimmage with it.
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Guys stepping up
Gotta love this team. Bush. Wynn. Cobb. I think we’ve got something in that boy. I was reading his scouting report earlier today coming out of college and it compared him to Donnie Avery and Eddie Royal. I saw more Greg Jennings than any of those guys. More like Barry Sanders on that kick return.
Rodgers is more money than Favre on his best day. Poor, poor call at the end on Hawk.
What scouting report was this?
Pretty much every where I was reading was comparing him to Percy Harvin. I don’t remember Avery & Royal being very good…
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Avery was good enough to merit being the first WR off the board in the 08 draft.
He just suffered a bad run of luck; he had a knee injury in the 2010 preseason and got cut by the Rams this year. Avery put up some decent stats in two absolutely terrible offenses.
Let me just flag something up…Avery was the 33rd overall selection in 08.
Eddie Royal also came out of the 08 draft (42nd overall pick) and had an amazing rookie season, but he’s been kept out of games since then and has 22 starts over his last 30 games.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 9, 2011 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Avery/Royal?
I heard Harvin, but without the headaches. As a Kentucky fan, I didn’t think he was as fast as Harvin, but he’s a much better “football player”.
Also, the young mean loves the cheesy biscuits at Red Lobster.
Also
I love the way Starks makes cuts and I love his brutish, lumbering style. I hope he turns into one of the best NFL running backs.
Cobb was a high school QB and he threw 60 some passes at Kentucky. Thats not much but SEC ain’t nothing to sniff at, so the guy must have an arm.
Kuhn is awesome
Darren Sproles lit the ST up.
Don Davey was in the house
packers/cats
I married into 3 generations worth of rabid Packers fans, but I’m originally from Kentucky. Everybody down there is going crazy over the Pack. Of course having Masthay helps too.
A friend of mine from graduate school is a Shippensburg alum and professor there. I asked him if he wanted me to get him a Kuhn jersey, but he was satisfied with his autographed picture.
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That was the right call on PI? are you kidding me as a highschool ref in texas i about threw my 65 in tv though the window. if you go back and look at the play you will see the RB is crouched and AJ is flying over his right shoulder, as for the back judge throwing the flag had a bad angle on it from behind the play, that would have been the HL call or L but outstanding game, if anything the refs needed to get the rust knocked off GO PACK
FS
Who was the free safety last night? I was only able to keep one eye on the game (last minute request for edits). Whomever it was must have played well as I never heard their name.
Cobb’s return was something to tell one’s grandkids about. Still, even though I was called out for saying this in the preseason, a good return game is clearly not the only thing the ST needs.
Despite what ESPN is saying, the Hawk PI call was a bad call.
A real heart stopper at the end, but a win’s a win.
Collins was at FS...
If you meant SS, Burnett is the starter there.
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Always Nice To Get That First Win
A steller performance by Aaron Rodgers; he continues to prove why he is one of the best QB’s in the NFL. Cobb also had a great game, and it was an excellent team effort to kick off the season on the right note at 1-0. The Panthers shouldn’t be hard to beat.
To make it fair, we should put Cobb in at QB.
They have about as much experience as each other.
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 10, 2011 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Still wouldn't make it fair.
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