Is it time to trade James Jones?
I don't know if I can remember a Packer roster that has been as much fun to pick apart as this current one. Maybe it's the sick amount of talent that the Packers have at many different offensive spots....but it is endless fun to think about the trade value of many players.
Right now the flavor of the month for this speculation is James Jones. Mike Vandermause has been beating this drum for a while now. I guess the main point for this is simple really. The Packers have so many talented receivers that they can take that hit. Jordy Nelson is quickly becoming Driver's heir after a big Super Bowl and another strong performance last night. Randall Cobb is freakin' amazing (or at least initial reports have suggested this). Greg Jennings is turning into one of the most clutch receivers in the league. That's only Jones' competition at reciever, if you throw in the TE's then you see guys who are going to be living mismatches in Andrew Quarless and D.J. Williams and the beast that is Jermichael Finely.
Then there is James Jones. He didn't do much in the preseason. He had only one catch for negligible yards last night. Really he was the only one of the fab five who really didn't make any noise at all last night. But he's young, he's full of promise, and he has a very reasonable contract for three years.
In light of these facts it seems very reasonable to see if there are offers. Even better would be if a team gave a call and made an offer and then let the talks go from there. Getting value for him and then activating Chastin West or Tori Gurley could be a very good thing for the Pack.
The flip side of this is that the offense seems to be in a fluid place right now. Sure this week Nelson and Driver looked good, but next week Jones might end up with 10 catches and a 150 yards with Finely right behind him. Really the real threat of our receiving corp is the depth and the options that are present and it makes sense that who is getting what number of catches is going to change from week to week. It might be hasty to just deal him away, especially considering that he is under a pretty darn reasonable contract.
As with everything time will tell. The exciting thing is just seeing the offense run that smoothly against a talented team is very promising. Hopefully we can keep it up next week against the Panthers and put the league on further notice the Packers are planning on staying atop the pile for quite some time.
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I had that same thought about trading Jones right after the game
Especially seeing how a healthy J-mike had basically become the third receiver being able to line up wide and Mccarthy was using more TE’s and Kuhn instead of his 5 WR sets, thing is Finley pushes JJ to the 5th receiver spot. Also consider Starks or Greens ability in the pass game as well. Being able to run the ball makes Jones that much less needed. Trading Jones would free up cap space to resign Nelson and Finley who more than replace Jones but the big question is what happens if they go down? TT says we “expect to win” and having depth at every position could mean the difference between a Super Bowl or not. TT will make the right decision here I think, probably a wait and see right up until the trade deadline.
No because Driver will be gone soon....
and one of the receivers is sure to go down at some point this year. One game is wayyyy too early to beat this drum. What if next week, he has 6 catches for 80 yds and Jordy only gets one pass? Then do we trade Jordy instead?
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 8:08 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Oh I'm beating that drum
Now I don’t know if I would actually pull the trigger on the trade, but I do think the question should be asked. Right now the motivation for the question is coming from just how good Randall Cobb has looked so far and how little Jones has done in camp, the preseason, AND last night.
I do think that, assuming Jones sticks the year, Jones contributes in a significant way as the year goes on. I think that as the games go the balls will come and he’ll start to produce. I also think that the real strength of the WR corp is the platoon strength and just how deep they can go. Having James Jones around is part of that depth and part of what makes it so special and so ridiculous.
But that same depth also begs the question of value and if we can turn that depth into long term value as well. It may not be the right time, but it’s an interesting thought nonetheless.
by PackApologist on Sep 9, 2011 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd like to see more of Cobb first before I jump to any conclusions on him...
he got lucky yesterday. The next wrong route he runs might end up in a pick. He needs some time yet to get it together but I like what I saw when he has the ball.
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 9, 2011 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Nebraska is going through a similar transition.
Freshman QB-to-WR convert is absolutely electric with the ball in his hands, but he doesn’t have all the route running and other WR things down quite yet. You need to get him the ball somehow, but he’s not going to be your top receiver.
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Driver will be gone soon
and I’m not sure we’ll resign Nelson. I’d rather hang on to Jones as a security blanket.
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Nelson is coming back
Right now he’s clearly the number three on the depth chart and is just making plays in these big games. I don’t see a reason why the Packers wouldn’t make sure to sign him. Heck, he might even be the next in line.
by PackApologist on Sep 9, 2011 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Money
They have Jennings, Jones, Cobb, & Driver if he plays next year signed to contracts. Plus they need to sign Jermichael Finley long term as well. 5 good WRs is a luxury not a necessity.
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We have cap space,
we let Jenkins and jackson go, as well as cut alot of other guys like Barnett and Poppinga, so we could free up space. They wont resign Driver next year, unless he takes like vets minimum or something.
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by BlackPack-fan on Sep 10, 2011 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Driver is already under contract next year.
Now they could easily release him or talk him into retiring early, but they don’t have to sign or negotiate w/ Driver. Think he’s on the books for about 4M next year… I would be inclined to release him if he won’t retire, but then I’m not a big Driver fan. I can’t see Driver playing for the vets min, he would probably ask for his release or retire before he plays for 750K.
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Im a huge Driver fan
But I also realize that football is business. It would be hard for me to accept keeping Driver next year over either Nelson, Finley, or Jones. We might be able to get him to take a pay cut, ala Grant, but I’m not sure.
Same here,
I like the guy but I would never want to keep him for one more year if it hurt our chances of resigning Jordy. Driver wont be a Packer next year unless he’s playing for less than 2 mil.
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by BlackPack-fan on Sep 11, 2011 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Driver's under contract next year...
Also, Finley, Grant, & Scott Wells are free agents next year and CM3 & Jennings will need new contracts soon.
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And Raji and Rodgers....
The list goes on… Too many damn good football players and not enough cash to pay them alll!
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Got to imagine some of these will be done this year...
against this year’s cap….
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 11, 2011 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree.
I think Jones stays,
and Nelson leaves as a UFA.
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Nelson Stays
I think Jordy Nelson will stay. This receiving group seems pretty tight. Remember two summers ago, Jennings, Jones, Driver and wives went to the Nelson family farm in Kansas for a few days. Who the heck does that in the NFL? I don’t think Jordy is the kind of guy who needs every nickel ever minted for his next contract, and I think TT certainly appreciates Jordy’s ability deep down the side line or crossing the middle from the slot. And Nelson must understand that taking less money to play with a stud QB, from a receiver’s standpoint, will sure be a lot more fun over the next few years than cashing in to play with a hack QB and watching the playoffs on TV every year.
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If Tramon's injury wound up being serious, I was going to write a post along these lines
Trying to get a decent CB in a trade. But with it being just a bruise apparently, definitely way too early to start talking about trading him away. If, god forbid, Jennings/Nelson/Finley go down with something serious, we’ll need all the bodies we can get.
And no, Chastin West would not be able to fill his shoes.
Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.
Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
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Jones is 27
Nearing the prime of his career and stuck down on the depth chart. He still competes, though, and that’s good enough for me. Keep him until you see something that a potential trade partner can’t, and then do a deal.
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by Clutch16 on Sep 9, 2011 10:59 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I kinda feel like it may be time to trade him. Obviously, Driver will be done soon but we’ll still have Jennings, Nelson, Cobb, and Finley. And on top of that, did anybody else notice how much playing time Williams and Quarless got? I mean, it wasn’t a whole lot but the fact that either got any time at all tells me that the coaches must like them. Could we be trying to copy the Belicheck multiple TE’s system? I think the staff likes the mismatches both of those guys present.
I guess I ultimately wouldn’t mind either way, but it was pretty surprising to me how little Jones was involved this game.
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We should start a weekly poll - Who will be the next player people wish we got rid of?
First it was Ryan Grant. Last week it was Donald Driver. This week it is James Jones.
Anyone have any ideas for next week? I’ll predict a resurrection of the “Trade Matt Flynn” talk, considering there’s a better-than-usual chance he could see some game time, given our next opponent.
Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.
Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
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by Packers3485 on Sep 10, 2011 2:25 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Why do we climb the mountain?
The reason why there are so many trade possibilities is the end result of the depth and talent of the roster. Most of our backups could be starters else where. Most teams would love to have a one two punch like Green and Starks, let alone a one two three punch of Grant, Starks, Green. Flynn is the best backup in football. James Jones could easily be a number two on many teams (I’m looking at you St. Louis). When we can trade away depth, get value, and still go as deep as most teams if not deeper than most of the NFL.
Really the question is one of long term value. The question then becomes are we getting the best value by keeping James Jones if his production continues as it has this whole year (camp, preseason, and this game)? Personally I think that’s a more interesting question than some of the other talk earlier because no other team would really want Driver at this point in his career and the Packers need the security of more running backs or a great backup QB.
At receiver things change a bit. I don’t know about you, but I didn’t see James Jones out there on special teams making tackles. He was mostly used in run formations split wide. Gurley and West may not have the same upside as Jones, but they will probably get as much play time as Jones and produce as much as Jones did whether they catch a pass or not.
by PackApologist on Sep 10, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Flynn not best backup
Flynn is not the best backup in the NFC North, much less the entire league. He’s solid, but I’d take Shaun Hill of the Lions over Flynn.
Depth is the hallmark of this Packer team. All the pundits marvel at the Packers’ depth at nearly every position. One of the receivers will miss a few games, and Jones will have his opportunities. Keep the depth.
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No.
Our strength is depth, and Jones has much more upside than Nelson. Driver is (was?) a possession guy with great hands who can get great YAC. Jones can be the same (multiple owners referred to him as ‘the best hands in the draft). I feel like trading Jones at this point would be comparable to the 49ers trading TO (except without the attitude problem this time). Driver is going to retire at some point, and I would rather have Jones on the depth chart than go through an endless line of J.J. Stokes’(s). Cobb has one explosive game where he makes two mistakes and gets lucky on both. One game does not a career make. I think he can be great, but i still vote that Jones has more experience and potential (plus Rodgers and Driver both think so as well. The ‘dropsies’ are a disease that has plagued many great recievers.
(I feel I need to end this post in parenthesis just because)
by sicklebeat on Sep 10, 2011 2:56 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Jones has much more upside than Nelson?
Jones has been in the NFL for an extra year and is clearly behind Nelson already.
And Jones was electric from the get go. Remember that Broncos game in '07?
Nelson is a more precise route runner but Jones is bigger, faster and has better hands. Jones’s main problem in his career has been fumbles bad Nelson is worse about fumble and in spite of entering last years playoffs Jones was known for having the best hands on the team and being teammates with Jennings, that’s a huge compliment. He had only a few but some easy to catch and very poorly timed drops in the playoffs, he was huge in the Falcons game as much as Nelson was big in the SB and Nelson was dropping passes left and right in the SB. So yes I would say Jones has more upside. I wouldn’t freak out about 1 game, we should keep Jones
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 10, 2011 7:54 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Not sure about the hands,
I feel like people started to question Jordy’s hands just because of the 3 drops in the SB, but you could say the same thing for Jones in the playoffs. I think Jones makes a few more spectacular catches, but Jordy is more consistent.
You can talk about upside when they are in the NFL draft, or in their first couple years in the league. But at this point in their careers, it’s not about upside, it’s about who’s contributing right now. And it seems like Jordy gets that award.
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by BlackPack-fan on Sep 10, 2011 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
The re-signing of JJ
is still befuddling me and I put no value to the thinking that Rodgers had a sway in it at all,based on his earlier comments to keep him as if he would publicly state “I wish TT would cut him”.Being PC is mandatory for players "play"but not the wardrobe of some in magazines.
The last thing I use to judge players is what players say about other players as they win the “blowing smoke up/out the ass” or however men say it about each other in praising.
The problem with JJ IMO;
A)-Consistency,and some will point to Nelson the same way but,Nelson offers faster and more productive redemption while Jones remains…“iffy”.
B)-All our WRs are versatile in formation,JJ is and seems comfortable only on the sideline route and fears the hit of the middle field and his hands or lack of too often,opens him up to more possible fumbles or deflections off him for an INT in the middle field of play.To keep a WR just for a infrequent sideline pass that all the others can do would be a no.
With that,keeping him for depth is fine right now as many feel DD won’t last.I have agreed with that and DDs play in the game although was very good,i"m not sure how many hits he will endure.But,DD is hands down still ,so much more than JJ and makes JJs play look “rooki-esk” and if it continues,heck bring in a “rookie” ala Gurley.He can’t improve any slower than JJ…can he?
We cannot forget the lessons of 2009-2010
Injuries WILL happen. Depth is a must if you want your team to contend, and with a talent like Aaron Rodgers, depth at the WR position is paramount to keeping the offense going.
Look at the worst case scenario, especially for 2012 and beyond: Driver retires, Finley somehow is allowed to walk, and Jennings gets hurt. Your top 3 receivers will then be Nelson-Jones-Cobb, and your TEs will be Andrew Quarless and D.J. Williams. That’s a ton of flexibility on a decent offense missing the #1a, #1b, and #3ish options we currently enjoy.
Take the same approach to the RB position: Starks looks really good, and Grant merely looks average. With Alex Green in the fold, you could make the case to trade away Grant (or Starks, but most of us would prefer Grant)…but if either Starks or Green got hurt, where is the replacement going to come from?
I’d rather have obscene amounts of depth on the roster now than risk losing it in a year or so.
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by Mitchell Maurer on Sep 10, 2011 5:27 AM CDT reply actions
Injuries do happen
Rosters turn over. Players leave. Players are acquired.
It’s really hard to look at 2012 and beyond when looking at the value and depth chart of now. I get the sentiment, I really do…hell I agree even, but despite that a part of me wonders about the value of having James Jones as the number four receiver right now.
In fact what I would point out is that West and Gurley could competently fill a number four role if Jennings and/or DD got hurt this year and we traded Jones. Would they have the same high ceiling of Jones? Probably not, but they would supplant value by contributions on special teams and the Packers would still have the best and deepest receiving corp in the league.
by PackApologist on Sep 10, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh and for 2012
If Finley were to walk and DD retire, I would imagine the Packers would probably draft another receiver or two in rounds 2-6 who would be able to adequately replace Jones as well and still allow for the Packers to have a ridiculous depth.
by PackApologist on Sep 10, 2011 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Remember last year after AJ Hawk's game 1....
Against Philly, he didn’t play a single snap? And people were saying we should trade him (maybe 1 for 1 for Marshawn Lynch, etc). We were loaded with guys like Chillar, Poppinga, etc. We don’t need him — right? By the end year, he was the de facto captain of our defense.
In other words, let’s wait a few more games, a few more weeks. Let’s exercise a little Ted Thompson-style patience and wait things out.
Oh and Gurley and West weren’t picked up by any other team — because they are nothing special. They are simply a Ruvell Martin/Carlysle Holliday redux.
Just seeing this being seriously considered
after one game, after we just re-signed him to a contract extension, makes me /facepalm really hard.
C’mon guys, get it together. Trade this guy for a mid-round draft pick? Really? We’re trying to win another Superbowl here, not build down the line.
We’re stacked at WR right now, it’s awesome – but Driver won’t last much longer and Nelson is a FA after this season – trading Jones now would be stupid, especially if we aren’t getting an impact player for him that can help us win RIGHT NOW. If a pass rushing 3-4 DE becomes available somehow, sure – but that’s not going to happen.
Less than 2.5 months ago, Rodgers said re-signing James Jones should be our top priority – and now we want to trade him away?
No.
by Archibaldcrane on Sep 10, 2011 9:43 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Why is the mere consideration a facepalm?
See I don’t see the question as wrong, even though the action may be rash.
This question isn’t based on one game, it’s based on what he’s done in camp and preseason as well. Jones has been invisible while others have shined (most notably Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb). When you combine Jones’ age, contract, potential, and place on the depth chart how can we not at least entertain the thought?
by PackApologist on Sep 10, 2011 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Camp and preseason don't matter
How many times have you seen a player excel in the preseason and then do absolutely nothing during the regular season? The fact of the matter is that this year will probably be just like last year; i.e., one game Nelson will have huge numbers and the next game Jones will have huge numbers.
The fact is that Jones has much better hands and more upside than Nelson; I know people hate the word upside but when you have as much depth at WR as the Packers do you can afford to keep a player with upside.
by SunshinePacker on Sep 10, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
you need to check your facts
A) Camps, preseason, practice does matter.
It’s not the the end all be all but it is an essential part of player evaluation. That’s what coaches go by.
Now you are right that sometimes guys who flash in camp don’t produce in the regular season. Desmond Bishop was the poster child for this until last year. As a result you need to look at the player’s production versus the competition he’s playing against. Jones just flat didn’t do anything.
B) Jones and Nelson’s hands. I’m sorry but if you are going to try and tell me that James Jones has better hands than Nelson I’m not going to keep a straight face. Jones is the guy who concentration issues and dropped at least two surefire TD passes in the playoffs and suffers bouts of the dropsies. Nelson has his share of mistakes as well, but he’s much more consistent and steady than Jones….that includes hands.
by PackApologist on Sep 10, 2011 1:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah man,
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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Sep 10, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
"tell me that James Jones has better hands than Nelson I’m not going to keep a straight face"
This is a matter of spotty recollection. Jones never was known to have a problem catching the ball until those playoffs. He was a supertalent with great hands that fumbled way too much and ran sloppy routes at times. Nelson fumbles worse than Jones. Jones suddenly dropped a few balls on the playoffs that were easy catches and touchdowns that you vividly remember and that was much publicized. Nelson’s breakout playoff game before this that leads you to think he’s emerging rather than just a guy who had a good game was the superbowl but he had more drops in the Superbowl than Jones had the entire postseason. You clearly have forgotten this as it was less memorable and got less media attention. Jones also makes catches vs tight/good coverage that you gloat about Finley’s good hands for Finley catching that Nelson couldn’t dream of catching Like Jones’s touchdown he leapt over the defender for in Atlanta in the playoffs.Jones has more upside, period. Nelson’s advantage is being a clearly better and more polished route runner. Nelson does not have better, especially laughingly better hands than Jones or more of whatever consistency you are referring to unless you mean consistently getting more open with better routes
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 10, 2011 3:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
As pointed out below
Nelson has apparently a faster 40 which would help him get open more consistenly as well
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 10, 2011 3:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I purchased the NFL Game Rewind this summer for $20 and I watched several of the regular season games. One of the things that jumped out was that Jones dropped several long passes during the regular season, also. Had Jones hung on to a half-dozen balls last season, he’d have gotten Sidney Rice money from someone. Now, I like Jones and hoped for his re-signing with the Packers. At this point, though, I feel the difference between Jones and Nelson is that Nelson’s catches seem integral to Packer success and Jone’s catches seem incidental to success.
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 10, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
C'mon man,
This is certainly worth a healthy discussion. I agree with you that trading him for a mid-round pick is dumb since we want to win the SB this year (and that pick might completely bust and it’s a stupid waste), but Jones could be a valubale trade chip if we need him. We have a few injured and injury-prone guys on the DL, if we suddenly need help and actually want a quality player rather than a guy off the street, dealing Jones would be an option (assuming all our WRs were healthy at the time). What if Clifton blows out his knee this Sunday? We would have to trade for a tackle just to save our season (Bulaga at LT and Sherrod at RT should be great in the future, but would be pretty bad next week).
No need to facepalm.
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by BlackPack-fan on Sep 10, 2011 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
OL
I always, and still do, think that if a good versatile backup OG/C were available in trade that would be an excellent idea. I’m not opposed to trading Jones, but I’m also not looking to do so. If we got an interior OL to provide insurance at OG/C I would be totally fine trading Jones. Otherwise, I"m not trying to trade him…
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by Strohman on Sep 10, 2011 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
No need to trade anyone for a backup OL...
I’m sure Barbre is on the market…
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 11, 2011 1:37 AM CDT up reply actions
He's on someone's IR I think. Or maybe it was PS.
Seattle I think.
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Nope, Keep Him
The season just started. I don’t really expect all our receivers to be great and healthy all season. Jones provides some nice depth at the WR position, and isn’t half-bad.
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He’ll end up getting enough of a shot to prove he’s worth keeping. Honestly, the only time to consider trading him would be right now, because if he turns out to be valuable, you don’t want to lose him, and if he devolves into a bust, it will be hard to make the case for him.
And we already know that won’t happen. He’s probably playing through a little something right now. Not a big JJ fan myself, but he’s not terrible; he’ll get his work in and prove he’s a keeper for the short term.
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The only possible way I would justify it
is if we needed to free up cap space to resign Finley, but we can wait until the off season to do that too. He’s got value, and he still will in the offseason. A friend of mine always said “Never make a decision today that you can wait until tomorrow to make”. I think that holds true here.
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Jones comes in at 6’1" and 208lbs. Jordy comes in at 6’3" and 217lbs. Jones ran the 40 in 4.54 and Nelson in 4.47. Just saying that is not the reason to say Jones is better.
I didn't nit realis Jones was faster or smaller
My mistake and thank you for making me aware. I’m not sure was was measure at the combine as far as leaping but Jones seems taller as he seems to be able to get much higher and he also had seemed faster as his ability to beat a corner on a go route seems much better
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 10, 2011 3:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Realize* and *slower not faster. I stopped the loading and retyped faster to slower
But it apparently had already posted. Fail
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 10, 2011 3:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I also apparently tried to type "didn't not" which is wrong enough
But I even failed at that. I should be banned from the Enlgish language, that was just aweful
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 10, 2011 3:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Flagged
to the English language police.
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by NorthStarr on Sep 10, 2011 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
*awful
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 10, 2011 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I didn't nit realis Jones was slower or smaller
My mistake and thank you for making me aware. I’m not sure was was measure at the combine as far as leaping but Jones seems taller as he seems to be able to get much higher and he also had seemed faster as his ability to beat a corner on a go route seems much better
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 10, 2011 3:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
But does he PLAY bigger?
Just wait until Jones goes all San Jose State on someone’s ass! Then we’ll be singing a different tune!
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 10, 2011 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Jones should only be traded for the right price.
The way I see it is that there are few guys who are untouchable (Rodgers, Matthews, Tramon to name a few) and the rest could and should be traded if the right offer is made. Now, do I think TT should be actively trying to make a trade for JJ? Absolutely not. However, if some team should make an offer that TT thinks is good enough then by all means I hope he pulls the trigger. I see no reason at all for TT to be making teams offers to try and ship Jones out but I have no problem at all with him being traded if someone makes the right offer.
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All trades should be done for the right price
The problem is sometimes there just isn’t the right price, period. Such as Rodgers, there is no trade possible that would be worth him. There’s just none.
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 10, 2011 3:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
This argument comes down to one simple item.
If a starting receiver on another team gets injured tomorrow, our ears are open.
Exactly
If we’re talking about trading him now, we’re trading him at the worst possible moment, where he has the least value. Not only because pretty much everyone is still healthy, but also:
- Jones did nothing in training camp/pre-season
- Jones did nothing in Week 1
- Therefore, Jones hasn’t done anything to get rid of the “Drops a lot of balls” perception that he had after last year.
Right now, he is not worth much. He is at his lowest value point, and we would get the worst returns in a trade for him right now.
Now, if Desean Jackson, Hakeem Nicks, Dez Bryant, or any other “star” receiver on a team hoping to get in the playoffs goes down……then I will be much more interested in trade talk.
Angelo: Right….so anyways Jay, I’m sure you understand that we needed to make this move and I wanna wish you the best of luck.
Cutler: (Swoops bangs out of eyes by throwing his head back) Whatever, I don’t need this team or you.
/Leaves in a huff
//Writes bad poetry on his blog
Grossman: What the fuck is Wilford Brimley’s problem?
Completely agree
I was going to post something similar than I saw yours. We may be able to get some real value for Jones if a WR for a contending team goes down, otherwise it isn’t worthwhile.
By the way, when is the trade deadline?
I'd say only if you can get a good pick or maybe a couple in return
But I wouldn’t be actively looking for an opportunity to unload him.
If another team desperate for a number 2 receiver came to Thompson with a really good offer then I’d say pull the trigger. Other than that, keep him.
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Jordy Nelson is the reincarnation of Ed McCaffrey
I loved that guy. The only thing I ever liked about the Donkeys.
we should trade Jones for
Cullen Jenkins.
by vic1124 on Sep 10, 2011 5:58 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Can we trade him for Mustafa? The Old Spice guy?
He played for ASU back in the 90’s and looks like he could still play.
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In Every Climb and Place....
I am an ass hat.
by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 10, 2011 6:56 PM CDT reply actions
A black puppy with white toes and cute pointy ears would also be acceptable in a trade.
In Every Climb and Place....
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 10, 2011 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions

"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
Skol is a four-letter word.
The Munsters of the Midway still suck!
This will do....
thank you. Now we can trade Jones. When does the puppy arrive?
In Every Climb and Place....
I am an ass hat.
by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 11, 2011 1:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Wasn't sure if the ears would be pointy enough for you,
but, the toes are white, at least.
I couldn’t believe when this came up on a Google image search for ‘Packers puppy’, and I looked back at your request description. :)
Not sure if really exactly a puppy, either, but…
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
Skol is a four-letter word.
The Munsters of the Midway still suck!
Not really....
in looking at it….
it might be like trading Jones for an aging vet, which we already have, but….
its too damn adorable to pass up on.
In Every Climb and Place....
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by PhoenicianPakFan on Sep 12, 2011 1:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Looks Australian
Green card is still valid. Scored a 45 on the Wonderlic. Smarter than 99% of existing NFL players.
Keep Jones unless we get an offer we can't refuse
Although my vote when in towards trading him, it’s under the intention of trading him for an offer we can’t refuse. That’s no less than a 2nd Round Pick. I don’t think anyone is going to give us that at this point, so we should hold onto him. Just remember, sometimes Jones will have a big game. Those are the games that Nelson disappears. In other games Nelson has a big game, and those are the games that Jones disappears. Jones and Nelson are two very different receivers that give us an edge in certain matchups. Right now we have the luxury of his services and WR depth, and we shouldn’t take that for granted.
One game at a time...
by Jabooty on Sep 10, 2011 7:05 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Its probably moot
Nobody in the league offered him more than $3 million or whatever that the Packers gave him. Nobody is going to trade anything of value on top of the dollars that they wouldn’t pay him four weeks ago.
The Packer brass though he was worth signing in August. I’m sure they still think that.
But IF a contender loses a #1 or # 2 guy, I suppose Ted is the first person they would call looking for a receiver to replace their injured guy.
by grant76 on Sep 10, 2011 7:53 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
The guy has a lot of talent, but
I know Jags won’t try, guy needs to go back to school and major in catching the ball, because he drops a lot of balls.
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lol its one week
and personally i wouldn’t have signed him in the first place but whatevs
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I'm guessing we're all not GMs here
And there’s probably a reason for that.
(Personally, I think it’s hasty to make a call or even entertain offers. The season is young.)
I'm up for it...
but I don’t want to give him away. Why not get the Saints on the damn phone. I mean they had Randy Moss in today…RANDY MOSS. They are obviously concerned about what is going on there with Colston. Its not a season ending deal for Colston though so its not like we’d be saving their season or something.They might be willing to give us like a 4th or something maybe?? Other teams to call…San Fran, Jacksonville, Houston (nice complement to Andre), Washington, Arizona…just thinking of a few options.
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Not for it, but
places I’d just as soon see him go, if we did:
- Buffalo
- Cincinnati
- Cleveland
- Indianapolis
- Denver
In other words, AFC bottom dwellers. :)
"Perfection is not attainable,
but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
"It's a great day to be great, baby!"
Skol is a four-letter word.
The Munsters of the Midway still suck!
Yeah that is probably a good point. Though my thinking there is that Colston is only out for a few weeks after that, he’d fall into line with a slew of other talented guys and just be one of the pieces. I don’t see him showing up and suddenly being a #1 WR for them.
The Green Bay Packers...Putting bad coaches out of their misery since 2010
They have enough weapons
Jones would be their 3rd of 4th WR. I personally don’t want the Packers to face a WR group as deep as their own.
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